SEC Tournament Bracket

[GeauxTo]

2007 SEC MEN’S BASKETBALL TOURNAMENT

http://www.secsports.com/doc_lib/bkc_2007_bracket.pdf

[PharmDawg87]

State's side of the bracket looks pretty favorable compared to the other side. I would love another shot at Kentucky, but that would be basically a home game for the Cats. And if Arkansas could somehow get to the semi's so we could get a rematch against them. Who knows though. The way this year has gone, LSU could win it from a 6 seed.

[Gator2753]

How about some predictions?

This is in no offense to anyone but it looks like Kentucky is in a good bracket to make it to the Championship game. I will say that they will meet either Florida or Tennessee in the Championship game. Pearl has his troops playing hard as of late and Florida had a big win to end the season over UK.

Should be alot of good games. Good luck to all!

[PharmDawg87]

First round predictions:
Kentucky over Bama

Arkansas over SC

Georgia over Auburn

Tennessee over LSU

Second Round:
Miss St over Kentucky

Arkansas over Vandy

Florida over Georgia

Tennessee over Ole Miss

Semi's:
Miss St over Arkansas

Tennessee over Florida

Finals:
Tennessee over Miss St

[Gator2753]

Here is a thought. What if Bama won their first game over UK then lost to state. Bama would have 21 wins at that point.
Then State advances on to the SEC Championship game.

On the other side, what if Ole Miss ran the table to make it to the championship game only to lose to State.

Would that be enough for the West to get 3 teams in the tourney????

And if that were the case, how many from the east would go?
:wacko:

[Chivas]

i expect arkansas to make a decent run, but to fall to kentucky

florida wins the championship

[volimhtown]

I hate stupid questions like this on threads, but what was the TB that gave Vandy the #2 seed over the Vols?? It's very disapointing to see the Vols & Gators on the same side of the brackets. In comparisons sake, the Cats have really backed into a much easier road to the Championship Game. No offense to any of the teams on that side of the bracket, but I would MUCH rather have that draw. Predictions?? Oh yeah....Ky vs Florida in the CGame with the Gators winning it all!
The Vols have not fared well in the tourney in quite a while...I think they will likely not even make it to play the Gators on Saturday. Watch LSU....

[autiger1126]

i expect auburn to beat georgia and then get whooped by florida

[autiger1126]

I hate stupid questions like this on threads, but what was the TB that gave Vandy the #2 seed over the Vols?? It's very disapointing to see the Vols & Gators on the same side of the brackets. In comparisons sake, the Cats have really backed into a much easier road to the Championship Game. No offense to any of the teams on that side of the bracket, but I would MUCH rather have that draw. Predictions?? Oh yeah....Ky vs Florida in the CGame with the Gators winning it all!
The Vols have not fared well in the tourney in quite a while...I think they will likely not even make it to play the Gators on Saturday. Watch LSU....

I have no idea, same conference record, split head to head, tenn has higer rpi, tenn has greater margin of victory head to head.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I hate stupid questions like this on threads, but what was the TB that gave Vandy the #2 seed over the Vols?? It's very disapointing to see the Vols & Gators on the same side of the brackets. In comparisons sake, the Cats have really backed into a much easier road to the Championship Game. No offense to any of the teams on that side of the bracket, but I would MUCH rather have that draw. Predictions?? Oh yeah....Ky vs Florida in the CGame with the Gators winning it all!
The Vols have not fared well in the tourney in quite a while...I think they will likely not even make it to play the Gators on Saturday. Watch LSU....
According to tie breaker rules, this is how it played out (tie-break rules are on the SEC web site)....For a two-team tie: 1. head-to-head; 2. division record (10 games); 3. record vs. No. 1 team in division proceeding through the No. 6 team if necessary; 4. non-division record (6 games); 5. record vs. No. 1 team in the opposite division proceeding through the No. 6 team if necessary; 6. coin flip by the Commissioner.

For a two-team tie:
1. head-to-head (Tennessee and Vanderbilt split the season series);
2. division record (10 games); Vanderbilt (7-3 Division record)/Tennessee (6-4 Division record)

Vanderbilt gets the higher seed.

[Seppeh]

Would have been niced to finish 4th or 6th.

Now we get the harder side of the bracket.

I expect us to beat Auburn though, before losing to Florida.

[BamaFanNKy]

I think whoever wins Bama v. UK wins that side. I think it's UF v. UT for the other. If Bama beats UK that means Steele is back. Not to disrespect Vandy on that call but, they seem to slow up in the SEC and surge in NCAA under Stallings.

[lacene]

I think the Gamecocks could get past Arky - they beat them earlier in the season (why'd we only play 1 game?), but that was in Columbia, and this will be neutral. Still, even if we did win, that's where it would stop for us, IMO, as I don't think we could beat Vanderbilt. So it's Vandy vs. KY in 1 semi, and Florida and Tenn in the other. I think the Fla-TN game will be an awesome game, and I think it will be Fla vs. KY in the finals. Florida should win....

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I think the Gamecocks could get past Arky - they beat them earlier in the season (why'd we only play 1 game?), but that was in Columbia, and this will be neutral. Still, even if we did win, that's where it would stop for us, IMO, as I don't think we could beat Vanderbilt. So it's Vandy vs. KY in 1 semi, and Florida and Tenn in the other. I think the Fla-TN game will be an awesome game, and I think it will be Fla vs. KY in the finals. Florida should win....
We play everyone in our Division (East) twice each year (home game and away game). We only play the teams in the Western Division once each year (3 home games and 3 away games for the teams in the West, alternating whether we play a Western Division team home or away each year). For example, we played Arkansas at home this year. Next year, we play them at their place.

[SPURED]

im going out on a limb and saying Vandy upsets everyone to win it all! just a gut feeling. that being said Florida should win but will they?

[GeauxTo]

im going out on a limb and saying Vandy upsets everyone to win it all! just a gut feeling. that being said Florida should win but will they?

Nice sig!

I'm wondering if we'll be able to make it to the NIT. What a fall... from the Final Four to a "maybe" invitation to the NIT.

[DELTOR]

How about some predictions?

Vanderbilt University Commodores
2007 SEC Tournament Champions

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Vanderbilt University Commodores
2007 SEC Tournament Champions
South Carolina Fighting Gamecocks
NOT 2007 SEC Tournament Champions......:laugh:

One and Done.......

[DELTOR]

South Carolina Fighting Gamecocks
NOT 2007 SEC Tournament Champions......:laugh:

One and Done.......

Wait 'til next year!!!! HAHAHAHA!

[MSUBULLY]

Wow I love the disrespect my #1 seed Bulldogs are recieving, "easiest Bracket", "winner of KY/Bama game wins that Bracket" that's nice I'll be looking forward to see what everyone writes when the Bulldogs upset them all.

[BamaFanNKy]

It's not an upset when your a #1 seed.

[PharmDawg87]

What if that 1 seed's rpi is 20-30 spots lower that the teams that are playing in the game to get to said 1 seed. How messed up is that?

[tecmsu06]

i kind of like the fact that everyone is already writing us (State) out. I think we will have a great shot at whoever we play friday. We could have and should have beat KY at Rupp (early on in the season) and we've shown what we can do against bama. we have been getting more and more solid.

[gatorunvrsty]

MSU will beat UK and Vandy. They're way too physical for Vanderbilt. Florida will beat UGA and UT. The Ole Miss/UT game will be the best. UF beats MSU in the final 77-73.

[MSUBULLY]

Thankyou for the respect Gator. I would love to see a MSU/Florida rematch. Hopefully we'll both get there so that we can see it.

[gatorunvrsty]

Thankyou for the respect Gator. I would love to see a MSU/Florida rematch. Hopefully we'll both get there so that we can see it.

I'm not sure many people watched the game at Starkville as closely as you and I. Very physical game. In fact, every team after that tried to play us the same way. They didn't win any, but the games were a heck of a lot closer than UF fans would've liked. MSU only lost to UF by 3 points when we were playing strong, right in the middle of our 17-game winning streak. To me, that's a lot more impressive than the teams who have beat us during our lull at the end of the season.:thumpsup:

[Seppeh]

MSU has no chance.

#1 seed... hahahahah, what a joke.

[bigsexxxy]

I'm not sure many people watched the game at Starkville as closely as you and I. Very physical game.

Don't you mean cage match? That game was probably one of the most physical games I've seen all year.

[gatorunvrsty]

Don't you mean cage match? That game was probably one of the most physical games I've seen all year.

Finally a view from a fan of another team. During and after that game, I posted messages talking about how many fouls MSU was getting away with, not to mention the 30 or so they called. The MSU guys beat me up for it, but it really was vicious. I expect to see another physical game, but it probably won't be the same as it was at MSU. I was wondering what guys of neutral teams thought of the game. UF had 34 foul shots, and could've easily had 20 more than that on a neutral site. MSU had 17 foul shots as the home team.

[PharmDawg87]

It's like that everywhere in the sec.

When state played at Rupp earlier this year the foul shots were something like

UK-19
MSU-3

...and we only lost by 4, had that been on a neutral court things would have been very different.

The sec is just a very physical conference, and the home team usually gets the calls. I'm sure Florida and Bama, have gotten their fair calls/no calls this year.

And in that game at starkville with Florida the freethrows were

UF-34
MSU-17

[GeauxTo]

UK-19
MSU-3

UF-34
MSU-17

That's pretty revealing! I had no idea it was that lopsided.

[PharmDawg87]

I'm not sure if that was sarcasm. But if it is, I was just responding to another posters comments, I'm not trying to uncover a conspiracy here.

[kinfolk41684]

Thankyou for the respect Gator. I would love to see a MSU/Florida rematch. Hopefully we'll both get there so that we can see it.

That would be one hell of a rematch!!!

[lacene]

Finally a view from a fan of another team. During and after that game, I posted messages talking about how many fouls MSU was getting away with, not to mention the 30 or so they called. The MSU guys beat me up for it, but it really was vicious. I expect to see another physical game, but it probably won't be the same as it was at MSU. I was wondering what guys of neutral teams thought of the game. UF had 34 foul shots, and could've easily had 20 more than that on a neutral site. MSU had 17 foul shots as the home team.

The Gators must be a finesse team. I seem to remember those book-worms at Vanderbilt being accused of man-handling and rough-housing the lizards a few games back, as well.

Have Eddie Munster tell Noah to clip his pony tail, or at least install corn-rows....it'll be a "man-up" statement for the tourney. :D

[GeauxTo]

I'm not sure if that was sarcasm. But if it is, I was just responding to another posters comments, I'm not trying to uncover a conspiracy here.

No, no. I'm sincere. I didn't realize that visiting teams in the SEC faced that extra challenge. That is pretty revealing, I think.

[PharmDawg87]

The Florida game was at Starkville, I'm guessing it was a conspiracy to keep then number 1 Florida at the top.

[GeauxTo]

The Florida game was at Starkville, I'm guessing it was a conspiracy to keep then number 1 Florida at the top.

Sounds kind of suspicious: UF-34/MSU-17... man, that's twice as many, and a lot, at that.

[PharmDawg87]

the sarcasm was noted in your second post. No need to be redundant. Thats like the same, only...the same.

[GatorHunter]

The Gators must be a finesse team. I seem to remember those book-worms at Vanderbilt being accused of man-handling and rough-housing the lizards a few games back, as well.

Have Eddie Munster tell Noah to clip his pony tail, or at least install corn-rows....it'll be a "man-up" statement for the tourney. :D

It's how teams defend more talented foes, lacene. I'll explain it to you since you root for a "bottom-feeder"...;)

It's a lot like having a "hard-hitting" safety in the secondary...if he "pops" a WR a time or two, the WRs start forgetting how to catch the ball...see the UF-UGA game...well, when UF throws the ball down low, or is in a fast-break situation, teams have began to use "flagrant" fouling to even the playing field. A player gets "hacked" enough times, he starts "worrying" anytime he gets the ball in the paint...misses shots. Happened early and often in the MSU game...and Vandy used this "technique" as well...interestingly, the officials determine if this "type" of game is gonna play out...in most cases, they call the fouls and the other team has to stop hacking because of foul trouble...interestingly enough, both of these games were away, and the officials didn't have a problem with the rough play...the only difference is, in the MSU game, UF shot well behind the arc...in the Vandy game, we didn't.

[Cianne]

Or it's how you defend pansies by getting them out of the paint by force.

[GatorHunter]

Or it's how you defend pansies by getting them out of the paint by force.

Yea...if you're a "thug" team with less talent and plenty of fouls to give. Call the Gators "pansies" if you like, I call them the Defending National Champs...BTW, your Rebels haven't beaten those "pansies" in 5 years...what does that say about them?:ph34r:

[Cianne]

Rod Barnes sucks?

[PharmDawg87]

It's how teams defend more talented foes, lacene. I'll explain it to you since you root for a "bottom-feeder"...;)

It's a lot like having a "hard-hitting" safety in the secondary...if he "pops" a WR a time or two, the WRs start forgetting how to catch the ball...see the UF-UGA game...well, when UF throws the ball down low, or is in a fast-break situation, teams have began to use "flagrant" fouling to even the playing field. A player gets "hacked" enough times, he starts "worrying" anytime he gets the ball in the paint...misses shots. Happened early and often in the MSU game...and Vandy used this "technique" as well...interestingly, the officials determine if this "type" of game is gonna play out...in most cases, they call the fouls and the other team has to stop hacking because of foul trouble...interestingly enough, both of these games were away, and the officials didn't have a problem with the rough play...the only difference is, in the MSU game, UF shot well behind the arc...in the Vandy game, we didn't.

How can you complain about fouls in the State game when your team shot twice the amount of free throws than the home team. Are you saying that Deitric Slater, a 6'3 shooting guard, who has had to play the four, is able to push Noah around and get him "worried"?

[MSUBULLY]

I hate to call you out GatorHunter, but did you watch the game. Florida shot 34 foul shots. The refs were calling fouls, yes we are a very physical team but the last time I checked this was basketball and not chess. I think it was a great call by Stansbury to play ya'll so physical. That's how you win games in the SEC. You're right the main difference in the game was that ya'll hit your threes, and free throws and we didn't. And for the record there were more no calls on Florida than there were against MSU.

[gatorunvrsty]

Rod Barnes sucks?

Or maybe the women's team would have more luck.

[gatorunvrsty]

I hate to call you out GatorHunter, but did you watch the game. Florida shot 34 foul shots. The refs were calling fouls, yes we are a very physical team but the last time I checked this was basketball and not chess. I think it was a great call by Stansbury to play ya'll so physical. That's how you win games in the SEC. You're right the main difference in the game was that ya'll hit your threes, and free throws and we didn't. And for the record there were more no calls on Florida than there were against MSU.

That's the point we're making. Even though UF had twice as many foul shots, there would have been an even greater disparity on a neutral court. We're not complaining about the calls or the MSU strategy. We're complaining about the no-calls, when UF guys were obviously getting hammered. Personally, I think the refs just ran out of breath from the number of times they already had to blow the whistle. Finally, they just had to give up and let the hockey game resume.

[MSUBULLY]

What about the nocalls when Noah would act like a baby and hack at Slater or Rhodes. Sorry but you're not going to even come close to walking out of this argument on top. Florida had a lot more no calls than MSU did, and that was proven by the number of fouls on MSU.

[MSUBULLY]

I do think officials call games differently when one team is ranked and the other is not. The officials want to keep the number one team the number one team. They are SEC fans just like you and me.

[Gator2753]

Only a few more hours till the Alabama/ UK tip off! Too bad ill be stuck at work:angry:
Good luck to all you guys playing today....Bama, UK, USC, Ark, UGA, AU, LSU & UT!:thumpsup:

[Cianne]

You aren't going to win Bully. Noah doesn't foul.

[ATLGamecock]

South Carolina is going to make another run in the tourney. We don't have to play Ole Miss, so that helps, since we have lost in the first round the last two times we have played them. For some reason Dave Odom seems to get the best out of his players during the tournaments. Not counting our one and only NCAA appearance under him.:brick:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

South Carolina is going to make another run in the tourney. We don't have to play Ole Miss, so that helps, since we have lost in the first round the last two times we have played them. For some reason Dave Odom seems to get the best out of his players during the tournaments. Not counting our one and only NCAA appearance under him.:brick:
I don't see us making a run in the SECT this year. If we even get by Arkansas with a win, I'll be one surprised Gamecock fan. Last year we made a run in the SECT because we had a talented team. I stated all last year how disappointed I was at our team's lack of effort all season long (since I felt they had the talent last year to do well and make a run at the NCAAT). They only chose to play and put out the effort against good teams (like Florida) during the season last year, and never showed up against the "lesser" teams. However, they did choose to start playing when the SECT and NIT rolled around, something they should have done all season long IMO. If they had played like they did in the SECT and NIT during the regular season (which they should have done), they'd have made a decent run in the NCAAT IMO.

Now to this year and why I don't think they'll make a run.....This year's team is not talented (with the exception of Tre Kelley) and basically, played to their level of ability during the season. I know we beat Arkansas during the regular season, but that was at home, and was just one of a few upsets we pulled off this year. I don't see us beating Arkansas in the SECT with Arkansas playing for an NCAAT bid. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

[lacene]

I think we can beat Arky, but after that it gets murky. I don't know why I feel so good about Arky, but I do.

Hey, are we not going to be allowed to v-bet v-cash on these games??

[ATLGamecock]

Did you guys see that run????? Oops. Mercifully the season is over.

[gatorunvrsty]

I do think officials call games differently when one team is ranked and the other is not. The officials want to keep the number one team the number one team. They are SEC fans just like you and me.

There's no way I can agree with that. In my opinion, the exact opposite is true. The officials don't want to see blowouts, they want to make a game close. I wouldn't be surprised if they're told to, so the games will be more exciting and generate more money. Many of the UF games I watched during their 17-game win streak, it looked like the officials were giving the other team every chance to pull the upset. They tried to even the playing field every game. But, I also know that every team is going to play you harder when you're #1, too. It goes with the territory. Check out the thread I started about refs in the SEC. They aren't solely SEC refs, and not necessarily fans of an SEC school, either.

EDIT: This is something that has changed. The refs don't work for the conference, anymore. They work for many different conferences. Many people want refs to be for only one conference, and employed by the SEC, so they'd be accountable to somebody. But, they're not; and it's not likely to change any time soon. They're actually paid by the schools that they are working at.

[lacene]

I think we can beat Arky, but after that it gets murky. I don't know why I feel so good about Arky, but I do.

Hey, are we not going to be allowed to v-bet v-cash on these games??

I still don't know.... :dry:

[gatorunvrsty]

I still don't know.... :dry:

Probably a good thing nobody responded to that in time, huh?:happy: Saved yourself some cash.

[GatorHunter]

I hate to call you out GatorHunter, but did you watch the game. Florida shot 34 foul shots. The refs were calling fouls, yes we are a very physical team but the last time I checked this was basketball and not chess. I think it was a great call by Stansbury to play ya'll so physical. That's how you win games in the SEC. You're right the main difference in the game was that ya'll hit your threes, and free throws and we didn't. And for the record there were more no calls on Florida than there were against MSU.

Gatoru is right, IMO, if all the calls were made that shoulda been...both MSU and UF would have shot many more FTs. Corey Brewer on a fast break, the MSU defender doesn't go for the ball, he "clothes-lines" Brewer and nearly takes his head off...Brewer ended up on his back...yea, they called a foul, but it shoulda been flagrant...at least, it use to be a flagrant when a player fouled not going for the ball. At another point in the game, Green drove the lane, for a lay-up, he got smashed...no foul called. I'm not saying MSU is a "dirty" team...just saying they played us very physical and there were plenty of "no-calls" on both sides. Vandy used the same tactic...UF didn't shoot well, and they beat us...so much for refs wanting to keep an SEC at #1.

[GatorHunter]

You aren't going to win Bully. Noah doesn't foul.

He doesn't talk trash, either...:ohmy:

[Cianne]

btw, I hope Tennessee wins tonight. I will not be able to watch the game with tomorrow between LSU and Ole Miss since Brando, an even bigger LSU homer than Geaux, on the call.

[PharmDawg87]

Gatoru is right, IMO, if all the calls were made that shoulda been...both MSU and UF would have shot many more FTs. Corey Brewer on a fast break, the MSU defender doesn't go for the ball, he "clothes-lines" Brewer and nearly takes his head off...Brewer ended up on his back...yea, they called a foul, but it shoulda been flagrant...at least, it use to be a flagrant when a player fouled not going for the ball. At another point in the game, Green drove the lane, for a lay-up, he got smashed...no foul called. I'm not saying MSU is a "dirty" team...just saying they played us very physical and there were plenty of "no-calls" on both sides. Vandy used the same tactic...UF didn't shoot well, and they beat us...so much for refs wanting to keep an SEC at #1.

What about when Noah and Horthford lowered the shoulder and went right through our low post men? Most refs call a foul on that, and it happened sometimes but if you want to call all the fouls, they would both foul out in the first 10 minutes of every game. A Florida fan shouldn't be complaining about calls.

[razorhead]

I think we can beat Arky, but after that it gets murky. I don't know why I feel so good about Arky, but I do.

Hey, are we not going to be allowed to v-bet v-cash on these games??


I hope you have that same good feeling about Vanderbilt. :laugh:

[Stark]

I hope you have that same good feeling about Vanderbilt. :laugh:

Yeah, we're gonna need all the mojo we can get to repeat last week's victory.
Vandy probably has us figured out by now.

[BamaFanNKy]

They are not in Memorial...... I think you guys have the win.