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thethird
03-01-2007, 01:47 AM
Their overall record suggest that they are. However, let's take a look at the resume.

(20-9, 7-8 SEC as of 2/28/07)
Notable wins: Xavier, Kentucky and Tennessee State.
Notable losses: Too many to choice from. (NOTE: two losses to a barn)
Wins against ranked teams: LSWho back in early January and Kentucky who is no longer in the top 25 (kinda like Bama).

Even though Bama is a bubble team, with 64 teams getting in they will more then likely make it. Even with that said, one must ask how tournament worthy this team really is.

BamaDude06
03-01-2007, 01:52 AM
Only one win against a ranked team and that was against LSWho back in early January.


Kentucky was ranked when we beat them.

bigsexxxy
03-01-2007, 02:25 AM
Your team has a chance to win the SEC West this weekend and you post something about how crappy Alabama is. Good job buddy, you really showed where your priorities lie.

thethird
03-01-2007, 02:35 AM
Your team has a chance to win the SEC West this weekend and you post something about how crappy Alabama is. Good job buddy, you really showed where your priorities lie.

In order to win the west, AU must beat Ole Miss and also get a ALA win over MSU. Much as I actually want Bama to win, its hard to have faith in a Tide squad that's showed almost nothing this year.

lacene
03-01-2007, 07:38 AM
I think Alabama will get in, but they won't go far after that. It would help them to do well in the SECCC more than it would hurt them to do poorly. It will also help them to win their last SEC reg. season game and pull even in the conference. A .500 conf. record in a tough conference, and a 20+ win overall record should be enough, but don't be surprised if they fail to go beyond the 2nd round......

BamaFanNKy
03-01-2007, 08:53 AM
Guys.... I think we are not a tourny team. That being said. Third, the problem for Bama is... as Steele goes Bama goes. I think MSU is done this weekend. It's up to Auburn to win the west.

As far as us making the tourny (If we do I will be shocked) I think we have a good shot. It is when they are counted out that Gottfried's team responds.

lacene
03-01-2007, 10:07 AM
Guys.... I think we are not a tourny team. That being said. Third, the problem for Bama is... as Steele goes Bama goes. I think MSU is done this weekend. It's up to Auburn to win the west.

As far as us making the tourny (If we do I will be shocked) I think we have a good shot. It is when they are counted out that Gottfried's team responds.

but you just counted them out for the tourney. :ohmy:

GatorNation
03-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Even though Bama is a bubble team, with 64 teams getting in they will more then likely make it. Even with that said, one must ask how tournament worthy this team really is.


I think Bama is a tourney team. They have some really nice talent, and when they put it all together, they're dangerous.

They should make it in, and I'll be surprised if they don't.

AUfan06
03-01-2007, 04:51 PM
if the rest of the SEC west doesnt deserve to get in then alabama doesnt either. everyone is about the same

BamaFanNKy
03-01-2007, 05:50 PM
except for the fact Bama has 20 wins and a better OOC wins.

BamaDude06
03-01-2007, 06:06 PM
except for the fact Bama has 20 wins and a better OOC wins.
Here's an example of why I think its funny people say "Will Bama make the tourney?"
Alabama and Duke both entered conference play at 13-1 and were ranked top 10. Both started conference play at 0-2. Right now Duke is 22-8 (They played an extra OOC game last week), 8-7 in ACC play with their final game being against North Carolina this weekend. Bama is 20-9, 7-8 in SEC play. If Alabama wins and Duke loses this weekend both will be 8-8 in conference play, yet CBS has Duke as a #4 seed and say Alabama will only make the tournament because the NCAA can't find 65 quality teams for the tournament. It amazes me at the pass they get just because they are Duke.

PharmDawg87
03-01-2007, 09:20 PM
Guys.... I think we are not a tourny team. That being said. Third, the problem for Bama is... as Steele goes Bama goes. I think MSU is done this weekend. It's up to Auburn to win the west.

As far as us making the tourny (If we do I will be shocked) I think we have a good shot. It is when they are counted out that Gottfried's team responds.

You are counting at state without Steele a win? What a joke, bummer only won at Coleman by 1 and that was because of poor decision making by our perimeter defenders. I doubt that a mediocre bama team can come into the hump and win on senior day, against a State team that is playing for the 1 seed in the tournament. The NIT is looking more and more like a realistic option for bama, hope yall submitted a bid to host the first round.

lacene
03-01-2007, 10:51 PM
You are counting at state without Steele a win? What a joke, bummer only won at Coleman by 1 and that was because of poor decision making by our perimeter defenders. I doubt that a mediocre bama team can come into the hump and win on senior day, against a State team that is playing for the 1 seed in the tournament. The NIT is looking more and more like a realistic option for bama, hope yall submitted a bid to host the first round.

Didn't the woeful Gamecocks do just that on January 27th??



:ohmy:

:whistle:

GatorHunter
03-01-2007, 11:12 PM
I think Bama could "make some noise" in the tournament...just my opinion, but they attack the basket well and that big guy down low, his name escapes me at the moment, could be a force to reckon with. Basketball, like baseball is "streaky"...if Bama get's on a "roll", they could make it interesting.

thethird
03-01-2007, 11:33 PM
except for the fact Bama has 20 wins and a better OOC wins.

Better OOC wins? Jackson State, Middle Tennessee State, Iowa, Xavier, Texas Southern, Louisiana-Monroe, Tennessee State, Alabama State, Southern Miss, North Carolina State, Coppin State, and Lipscomb.

Yeah, a lot powerhouses make up that list.

PharmDawg87
03-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Didn't the woeful Gamecocks do just that on January 27th??



:ohmy:

:whistle:

It's hard to get up for a game against an obviously weaker opponent. And state gave that win to South Carolina. Just stick to baseball and Steve spurrier and we'll all be good.

BamaFanNKy
03-02-2007, 09:20 AM
Better OOC wins? Jackson State, Middle Tennessee State, Iowa, Xavier, Texas Southern, Louisiana-Monroe, Tennessee State, Alabama State, Southern Miss, North Carolina State, Coppin State, and Lipscomb.

Yeah, a lot powerhouses make up that list.

Bama RPI 39 SOS 49 (Highest Rated Non Conf. Wins: #33 Xavier, #89 Iowa and #113 N. Car. St. all on the road NOT HOME)
Mississippi RPI 64 SOS 63 (#123 So. Al, #136 Ten. Tech and #161 Illinois of CHicago all at home)
Mississippi State RPI 67 SOS 38 (#104, Texas A&M Corpus Chris, #123 So. Alabama and #158 Miami Fl. all at home)
Auburn RPI 101 SOS 43 (#118 E. Tenn. State, #123 So. Alabama and #192 Louisianna Monroe all at home.)

Your wins were not big non-conf. Your wins were at home. That was my point. According to most, Bama would be a 8 or 9 seed with their RPI.

PharmDawg87
03-02-2007, 04:31 PM
According to ESPN no team from the west will make it. Not even your high and mighty Alabama, who's strength of schedule (according to the publication you are siting) is third among the teams tied for first. State-38, Auburn-43, Alabama-49 and Ole Miss-50 something. Oh and about your big wins over Xavier and Iowa on the road. I highly doubt Xavier and Iowa have a large contingency of fans in the Virgin Islands. You're a joke trying to spin everything to seem like Alabama is the only contender in the west. Get over the fact that your beloved tide fell flat on there face, when the west was there to win.

BamaDude06
03-02-2007, 05:56 PM
It's hard to get up for a game against an obviously weaker opponent. And state gave that win to South Carolina. Just stick to baseball and Steve spurrier and we'll all be good.

Blah blah blah...escuses excuses. Just stick to....to.......uh?

thethird
03-03-2007, 02:16 AM
According to ESPN no team from the west will make it. Not even your high and mighty Alabama, who's strength of schedule (according to the publication you are siting) is third among the teams tied for first. State-38, Auburn-43, Alabama-49 and Ole Miss-50 something. Oh and about your big wins over Xavier and Iowa on the road. I highly doubt Xavier and Iowa have a large contingency of fans in the Virgin Islands. You're a joke trying to spin everything to seem like Alabama is the only contender in the west. Get over the fact that your beloved tide fell flat on there face, when the west was there to win.

Welcome to the board. :thumpsup:

UA0509
03-04-2007, 12:35 AM
According to ESPN no team from the west will make it. Not even your high and mighty Alabama, who's strength of schedule (according to the publication you are siting) is third among the teams tied for first. State-38, Auburn-43, Alabama-49 and Ole Miss-50 something. Oh and about your big wins over Xavier and Iowa on the road. I highly doubt Xavier and Iowa have a large contingency of fans in the Virgin Islands. You're a joke trying to spin everything to seem like Alabama is the only contender in the west. Get over the fact that your beloved tide fell flat on there face, when the west was there to win.

well stop the presses, if espn said it, by god, it must be truth....:ohmy:

back to reality...

i also believe last year we went into the tournament unranked, beat marquette and then lost to the runner-up UCLA by 2 in the second round. the team has plenty of talent, and if they figure out how to use it and how to play a full basketball game, they could be dangerous in the tournament.

one thing i have constantly noticed about our offense, is that we pass the ball on the perimeter too much. Most of our opponents steals are a result of this. I believe if we can get a PG that will be able to penetrate the lane, much like steele was doing last year, we could be a very hard team to stop. We are not a 3 point team, and i hate that we take so many 3 point shots. We need to be getting the ball into hendrix and davidson's hands down low.

thethird
03-04-2007, 02:46 AM
Though the chances are pry slim, I'd like to see AU play Bama in the SEC tourney. After the last two, it's safe to say AU matches up good with UAT.

PharmDawg87
03-04-2007, 10:49 AM
well stop the presses, if espn said it, by god, it must be truth....:ohmy:

back to reality...

i also believe last year we went into the tournament unranked, beat marquette and then lost to the runner-up UCLA by 2 in the second round. the team has plenty of talent, and if they figure out how to use it and how to play a full basketball game, they could be dangerous in the tournament.

one thing i have constantly noticed about our offense, is that we pass the ball on the perimeter too much. Most of our opponents steals are a result of this. I believe if we can get a PG that will be able to penetrate the lane, much like steele was doing last year, we could be a very hard team to stop. We are not a 3 point team, and i hate that we take so many 3 point shots. We need to be getting the ball into hendrix and davidson's hands down low.

Oh yes I forgot that Joe Lanardi doesn't know as much about the NCAA torunament as your run of the mill alabama homer. And there is a big difference in this year and last year. Just as LSU. and the three teams that that were on the bottom of the west (state, ole miss, and auburn) who, in the last weekend of the regular season were fighting for the sec west title. But we'll see in a little over an hour.

scfan5338
03-04-2007, 12:43 PM
It's hard to get up for a game against an obviously weaker opponent. And state gave that win to South Carolina. Just stick to baseball and Steve spurrier and we'll all be good.

Why can't you admit that you lost the game?? Everyone at USC knew that we were going to be horrible this year because we didnt have depth. Our might MSU bulldogs are not that great this year at basketball either. One of the MSU this year predicted you guys to win the west and said MSU was the best team in the West. According to secsports.com you 16-12 overall and 7-8 in the west, certianly not making the NCAA Tourney that way. Oh yeah and you say "its hard to get up for a game against an obviously weaker opponent," well good/great teams beat teams they are suppose to. They dont play it soft against weaker opponents and lose AT HOME.

PharmDawg87
03-04-2007, 04:04 PM
I never said we were a great team. And state did win the west. And I did say we lost the game. We gave South Carolina that game, you were handed the victory. And you should be proud to beat a team with 1 senior, and three starting sophomores.

PharmDawg87
03-04-2007, 04:38 PM
Blah blah blah...escuses excuses. Just stick to....to.......uh?

uh uh.. beating bama in football and basketball.. uh uh.. Bama should just stick to resurrecting the bear. How does your foot taste?

bigsexxxy
03-04-2007, 05:10 PM
uh uh.. beating bama in football and basketball.. uh uh.. Bama should just stick to resurrecting the bear. How does your foot taste?

Congrats, MSU played a hell of a game.

Oh and congrats on the 1 in 6 this year too.

cocky4ever
03-04-2007, 05:43 PM
I never said we were a great team. And state did win the west. And I did say we lost the game. We gave South Carolina that game, you were handed the victory. And you should be proud to beat a team with 1 senior, and three starting sophomores.

So when we lose a game its because our opponent is better than us, but when we win its just because we were handed the victory?:glare: Correct me if Im wrong, but good teams dont hand out wins. Plus I dont wanna hear about how young Miss. St. is....the SC roster isnt exactly filled with experienced players.

scfan5338
03-04-2007, 06:07 PM
Plus I dont wanna hear about how young Miss. St. is....the SC roster isnt exactly filled with experienced players.

We did have three seniors starting but with no bench. We have experienced players who had to play 40 minutes, that was our problem.

PharmDawg87
03-04-2007, 10:30 PM
So when we lose a game its because our opponent is better than us, but when we win its just because we were handed the victory?:glare: Correct me if Im wrong, but good teams dont hand out wins. Plus I dont wanna hear about how young Miss. St. is....the SC roster isnt exactly filled with experienced players.

I'm not saying that every time SC wins the game is given to them, but if you watched this particular game you would know that state was up by 12 with about 5-6 minutes left and they decided to try and sit on the ball, this lead to poor shot selection and SC was able to come back fairly easily. I have no idea what the other SC games have been like. I'm just talking about this one. The one that state gave away.