Stan Heath To Fired If...

[Hogzilla]

Razorback Nation (http://www.knwa.com/razorbacks/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=1941)

It will happen!

and there is no way A&M or Kansas will outbid arkansas. Not with tyson,wal-mart, dillards, and jb hunt on our side!

[MSUBULLY]

Great give the Razorbacks just a little more fire right before they play MSU, damn destiny is not on our side this year.

[HOG02]

Razorback Nation (http://www.knwa.com/razorbacks/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=1941)

It will happen!

and there is no way A&M or Kansas will outbid arkansas. Not with tyson,wal-mart, dillards, and jb hunt on our side!

I would slow down on talking about getting guys like that. Do you realize that the next BB coach that will come in here will not know who his AD will be. Anybody being considered for the vacant Arkansas BB coach spot will certainly think about it.

Also, TAM has just as much donor money than the UA. I'm not sure about KU but I do know that basketball is there sport. They will do anything for BB.

[gatorunvrsty]

I'm confused. There's no way A&M or KU will outbid Arkansas for who? I didn't even see a coach's name listed.

[BamaFanNKy]

They think they will get Gillispe or Self. Hog02 said exactly what I said a couple of days ago. TAMU has deep pockets and the fact you have an AD stepping down will make it tough to lure anybody.

My second point, Gillispe of TAMU has had one good year. You hired Heath after his one good year. You must get a proven winner. I know I was laughed at when I suggested Pelphrey or Orlando Early.... Here is another one Ken McDonald at Texas. He is the #1 asst.

[HOG02]

Sorry BamaFan, I did not see your earlier post. But I guess we agree on this. I don't see why Self or Gillispe would want to leave their current situations. Both teams ranked. Easier to recruit. I think people are reaching when they expect to get those guys, but I could be wrong.

[BamaFanNKy]

I understand fans thinking your able to pull those guys because of what Nolan did.... At the same time I would say that is why you shouldn't go for those guys. I like the styles of O. Early and J. Pelphrey better than Self or Coach G.

[Hawgwild]

I also think we get one of the two. Self would definetly have to take a pay cut to come to arkansas. But, before we hired Heath, we almost got self, but he couldnt come on campus for the interview, but we wanted him to, he would of taken the job if we would have just offered. And from my understanding, his wife is from northwest arkansas or lived here and liked it or somthing, and she dosent like kansas, so there is somthing there..as for billy G, who i would rather have, dont know much about him, but i think thats who we want most. We wont really know anything though untill kansas and AandM get out of the tourney.

[HOG02]

I also think we get one of the two. Self would definetly have to take a pay cut to come to arkansas. But, before we hired Heath, we almost got self, but he couldnt come on campus for the interview, but we wanted him to, he would of taken the job if we would have just offered. And from my understanding, his wife is from northwest arkansas or lived here and liked it or somthing, and she dosent like kansas, so there is somthing there..as for billy G, who i would rather have, dont know much about him, but i think thats who we want most. We wont really know anything though untill kansas and AandM get out of the tourney.


How do you know all this info about Self. Did he tell you himself? Stuff you hear from the NWA media? Nobody knows a damn thing. I think Razorback fans are setting themselves up for a huge letdown when we don't get one of these two guys.

[HOG02]

I didn't finish my last though.

Arkansas fans need to take a step back and think about this one. People keep saying," WE ARE ARKANSAS, why wouldn't Billy G want to come here, A&M doesn't have what we have." That's crap. We won a NC 13 yrs ago, and haven't done anything since. We are nobody when it comes to college bb. Billy G is from TX, he has a great recruiting base, and is starting to turn them into a power. Why would he do that for 2 or 3 yrs and turn around and want to start over? For Self, it's just speculation that he isn't happy at KU, and nobody has any quality info on his situation. Eveyone says we will out pay either of those schools. If their current schools want them bad enough they will pay more than we will and they can, so money isn't a factor.

Please, someone tell me some GOOD reasons for why either of the Bills would come to Arkansas.

[Hawgwild]

I dont have proof to show you so you dont have to believe it..But, saying we dont have anything over A and M is dumb, even if billy g loves it there and wants to stay, we have better facilities and history is a joke to compare. Streets and smith have us at like 8 all time in basketball history. ITs only lately that we havent done anything.

[thethird]

Between whats going on with the football program and now this, there is alot to keep up with in Fayetteville these days.

[BamaFanNKy]

I think the biggest factor for Ark. not getting a new coach is the AD change. It's usually courtesy not to hire the next man's employees right before he gets there.

[Stark]

I don't see how Arkansas is going to have the money to replace Heath with a winning coach, replace Broyles, and then replace Nutt after next season (which you know is gonna happen one way or another and they must know this too.)
They're gonna try to replace Nutt with someone really expensive and I don't think they're going to spend that kind of money on the Basketball team.

Plus, if the baseball team keeps doing so well, they may have to give Van Horn a raise or lose him to some west coast team. And that track coach is gotta be getting close to retiring age by now.

The new AD will have his hands full.

[Chivas]

That one good reason was given in an earlier post but I'll resay it, we have the 8th best basketball program in the history of the NCAA.

[HOG02]

I don't think anyone else in the SEC views us that way, or around the country for that matter. Nobody has come up with any good reason for them to leave their current jobs. Razorback fans have to take their homer glasses off. We are not viewed by the basketball world as we once were.

[Chivas]

Think of Notre Dame in football, they had those two crappy seasons and then nailed Charlie Weis and came back on top. Now we're not the Notre Dame of basketball, but I do think our tradition has an appeal in much the same way, enough to grab a decent coach. Anybody will be better than Heath, he's terrible.

[HOG02]

Are you kidding me with that analogy?

Charlie Weis is an alumni of ND. That is not the case for Gellispi or Self.

Plus I can't even believe that you would compare our basketball tradition to the tradition of ND football. I am totally with you that Heath needs to go, but everyone thinking it's a piece of cake to get one of those 2 coaches to come to Arkansas need to take a second look at our situation.

Not many top notch coaches are going to want to go to a place where they don't know who their boss is going to be at the beginning of next year.

[Chivas]

Money will lure just about anybody to a place, and we'll have plenty of it. No i'm not comparing our tradition to notre dame, I said it was the same concept, gotta read exactly what I said. When whichever previous poster said Arkansas has "nothing" I was refuting that. We have tradition, we have money, we have a decent fanbase (a little too fickle, but good overall).

And as far as those two specific coaches go, I could really care less, I just think we'll get a good coach. I don't even like Self.

[Hawgwild]

Its also attrative job because ussually, when a coach comes in, he had to rebuild, thats not the case here, a good coach will be able to win immediatly when comming in, and after next year, he has a ton of schollies to work with to get his kind of players he wants. Like chivas said, we have money, great facilities, great history, and a great fan base, we should be able to grab someone good.

[HOG02]

Chivas and Hawgwild, I agree with both of you on what we have. I do believe we will get a good coach because whoever it is will come in with a great starting point. My arguement was why Gillispe or Self would come here. I don't like or dislike either one of those coaches. I was just saying that the fans who think either one of them would come here need to look at their current situations where they are currently at. It would be extremely difficult for either one of them to leave. I do think we will get a good coach though due to the reasons both of you have already listed.

[Chivas]

Ah, I see what you mean. Why the hog nation is going crazy for Gillispe/Self is beyond me.

[HOG02]

I agree, I don't know why either. I like Doc Sadler. I was at UA Ft. Smith when he was there, and he has great passion for the game, and his players play that way. I don't necisarily believe he is the best man for the job. I just like his attitude and demenor.