Trivia Question:

[BamaFanNKy]

What team has a winning record against Alabama (who has pretty much been on probation since the BCS started) since the BCS started, has repeatedly beat Alabama in recruitting since the BCS started and yet still has the same amount of BCS apperances and SEC Championships in the BCS era as Alabama? Hint it's the underachiving team to the southeast of Tuscaloosa.

[Seppeh]

What team has a winning record against Alabama (who has pretty much been on probation since the BCS started) since the BCS started, has repeatedly beat Alabama in recruitting since the BCS started and yet still has the same amount of BCS apperances and SEC Championships in the BCS era as Alabama? Hint it's the underachiving team to the southeast of Tuscaloosa.

Just a guess.. Auburn?

[AUFootball24]

Auburn>Alabama right no no matter what off the wall stats you dig up and no matter how much you twist and turn it, we are the dominate team. :happy:

[Gator2753]

Troy?:unsure:

[lacene]

So........


that means that if we establish anything from this, then it is that Auburn is better than Alabama?


....ok.


edit: wow, threads sho do fill up fast around here, don't they???:happy:

[BamaFanNKy]

I am not digging up stats. Stats would be picking passing or rushing. I am just stating a fact. For such a dominate team, you would think they would win more SEC Titles and have more BCS games right? Is that a fair question. If your coach is so great and you dominate your instate rival you should win the SEC?

[Gator2753]

Hey!:angry: Is it troy or not?

[BamaFanNKy]

I said SEC team...... think harder.... and remember UAB is in CUSA and USA is SBC. UNA is D1AA. AA&M and ASU are part of the SWAC.... Want more initial hints? haha

Need more 2753

[Gator2753]

I said SEC team...... think harder.... and remember UAB is in CUSA and USA is SBC. UNA is D1AA. AA&M and ASU are part of the SWAC.... Want more initial hints? haha

Need more 2753

Nope I'm good!:laugh:

[lacene]

I am not digging up stats. Stats would be picking passing or rushing. I am just stating a fact. For such a dominate team, you would think they would win more SEC Titles and have more BCS games right? Is that a fair question. If your coach is so great and you dominate your instate rival you should win the SEC?

Maybe being such a dominant team over Alabama during the BCS era says more about Alabama than it does about Auburn......

[shk999]

What team has a winning record against Alabama (who has pretty much been on probation since the BCS started) since the BCS started, has repeatedly beat Alabama in recruitting since the BCS started and yet still has the same amount of BCS apperances and SEC Championships in the BCS era as Alabama? Hint it's the underachiving team to the southeast of Tuscaloosa.


Only one team comes to mind..................

http://a144.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_737b8b8359fa06b3e12c5a5c4863e7d7.jpg

[shk999]

Maybe being such a dominant team over Alabama during the BCS era says more about Alabama than it does about Auburn......

Please elaborate............

[BamaFanNKy]

Maybe being such a dominant team over Alabama during the BCS era says more about Alabama than it does about Auburn...... Que?!? No comprende

[SECSportsTalk]

What team has a winning record against Alabama (who has pretty much been on probation since the BCS started) since the BCS started, has repeatedly beat Alabama in recruitting since the BCS started and yet still has the same amount of BCS apperances and SEC Championships in the BCS era as Alabama? Hint it's the underachiving team to the southeast of Tuscaloosa.

You missed who won more BCS bowls than Bammer.

[BamaFanNKy]

SO what underachiving team who has been in the same amount of BCS games but has won their ONE BCS GAME IN 8 YEARS OF DOMINANCE....
Basically One BCS game and one win... just like Boise State.

Plus only has six more 1a wins than that weaker team in state since the BCS started.

[lacene]

SO what underachiving team who has been in the same amount of BCS games but has won their ONE BCS GAME IN 8 YEARS OF DOMINANCE....
Basically One BCS game and one win... just like Boise State.

Plus only has six more 1a wins than that weaker team in state since the BCS started.

Well, I know who it aint is:

ALABAMA

thank you. :closedeye

P.S. you don't sound like much of a Bama fan to me, pointing out all these....failings compared to your arch-rival. Now, you're saying that Boise St. is better than Alabama?? :whistle:

[BamaFanNKy]

And it definately ain't USC. When was your last SEC championship?

[Gator2753]

And it definately ain't USC. When was your last SEC championship?

Ohhh. I know the answer to this one!

[lacene]

And it definately ain't USC. When was your last SEC championship?

Well, that doesn't apply to the topic of your thread, but if it makes you happy, then we're both right. :happy:

[BamaFanNKy]

hahaha.... hey I am just trying to understand the Auburn fans sense of dominance in an eight year span of Bama's probation where they really haven't capitalized.

2753.... answer the question if you know.

[lacene]

hahaha.... hey I am just trying to understand the Auburn fans sense of dominance in an eight year span of Bama's probation where they really haven't capitalized.

2753.... answer the question if you know.

wait a minute.......Alabama's been on probation for eight years????

:blink:

[BamaFanNKy]

Yes we had a probation in 96-99 and then again 2001 through a few weeks ago. Straight thuggin' at the U of A. Gotta love Mike Dubose.

[lacene]

Yes we had a probation in 96-99 and then again 2001 through a few weeks ago. Straight thuggin' at the U of A. Gotta love Mike Dubose.

well, then that sort of answers my post above that you didn't understand, about it having to do more with Alabama than with Auburn. Maybe the reason Auburn has been so dominant over Alabama more because Alabama has struggled recently than because Auburn is such a dominant team overall.....

[SECSportsTalk]

Yes we had a probation in 96-99 and then again 2001 through a few weeks ago. Straight thuggin' at the U of A. Gotta love Mike Dubose.

Was it Auburn's fault that Bammer was put on probation?

[BamaFanNKy]

No it was their fault they didn't capitalize on it. They have been a failure at putting a huge gap between the two. Tubby has beaten his big brother who has been getting chemo. Now that he has beat his cancer.... game on.

[shk999]

Was it Auburn's fault that Bammer was put on probation?

Did he say it was? Maybe you are reading a little too deep in to his post.

[BamaFanNKy]

No it was their fault they didn't capitalize on it. They have been a failure at putting a huge gap between the two. Tubby has beaten his big brother who has been getting chemo. Now that he has beat his cancer.... game on. woops double post

[SECSportsTalk]

Did he say it was? Maybe you are reading a little too deep in to his post.

Maybe you need to realize that Bammer's recruiting ethics was the reason why they were on probation. It isn't Auburn's fault that Bammer had to cheat to compete with them and the SEC.

[azamugg]

Maybe you need to realize that Bammer's recruiting ethics was the reason why they were on probation. It isn't Auburn's fault that Bammer had to cheat to compete with them and the SEC.

come on guy, no need to for me to rehash it but if you been misinformed then its not your fault................our Booster in Memphis was 95% of our probation, not our recruiters recruiting efforts

[SECSportsTalk]

come on guy, no need to for me to rehash it but if you been misinformed then its not your fault................our Booster in Memphis was 95% of our probation, not our recruiters recruiting efforts

There was still 5% and it was Bammer's fault that they allowed him to influence it.

[lacene]

No it was their fault they didn't capitalize on it. They have been a failure at putting a huge gap between the two. Tubby has beaten his big brother who has been getting chemo. Now that he has beat his cancer.... game on.

But this doesn't make sense. Auburn has beaten Alabama five (5) years in a row, and seven (7) times out of the last ten (10) years. The record during the 8-year "Probation Era" of Alabama stands at 6-2. Looks like to me that Auburn's doing a fine job of putting a huge gap between them and Alabama.

It would be tough to go 8-0 against a SEC team, even a probation-riddled team....

[shk999]

Maybe you need to realize that Bammer's recruiting ethics was the reason why they were on probation. It isn't Auburn's fault that Bammer had to cheat to compete with them and the SEC.


Nobody said it was AU's fault. BTW, who's fault was it that AU had to cheat to compete in the SEC?

[BamaFanNKy]

Beating the team on probation is easy. It's not impressive to have a win streak against a weak team (YES ALABAMA HAS BEEN WEAK)

[lacene]

Beating the team on probation is easy. It's not impressive to have a win streak against a weak team (YES ALABAMA HAS BEEN WEAK)

Well, I may agree if the reason for the team being weaker is just the nature of their program, i.e. they just historically haven't been a competitive program, and not because the weakness is a temporary thing.

USC and Clemson have a pretty heated rivalry as well, but SC has been the weaker program of the two for years. I'm sure the rivalry has lost it's intensity over the years for both sides, because we just haven't won enough of the games. Hopefully we will change that for a long period of time, beginning this past season.

However, SC fans love that we beat them this past season, and we'll love it even better if we can keep it going, regardless of past history. I imagine Auburn fans feel the same way, with all the "fear the hand" and "fear the thumb" slogans. Auburn has dominated Alabama in recent years head-to-head, and have had the better seasons. I'll bet that's still very important to their fans.....

[AUTiger94]

Nobody said it was AU's fault. BTW, who's fault was it that AU had to cheat to compete in the SEC?

Why was Bama on probation again?:glare: Oh that's right. For cheatin to compete in the SEC!

[BamaFanNKy]

Institution: Auburn University
Date: 18-AUG-93

Facts Summary: Cash and unsecured loans provided to student-athletes as extra benefits; lack of institutional control; unethical conduct.

Violation Summary: EXTRA BENEFITS: athletics representatives provided at least $4,000 in cash and merchandise; assistant coach provided $500; administrative assistant provided several thousand dollars in cash payments; athletics representative approved a $9,200 and several other unsecured loans based upon future earnings as professional athletes; student-athletes allowed to enroll with oustanding accounts with the university. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE.

or

Institution: University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: 01-FEB-02

Facts Summary: Findings of violations of NCAA legislation included: recruiting inducements; impermissible recruiting contacts; recruiting inducements through high-school coaches; violation of honesty standards; violation of employment and salary controls; impermissible extra benefits, excessive entertainment during recruiting visit and impermissible recruiting contacts by athletics representatives.

Violation Summary: Athletics representatives actively engaged in violations of recruiting and extra-benefit legislation with prospective student-athletes and provided impermissible recruiting inducements through high-school coaches. Numerous secondary violations.

Penalty Summary: Public reprimand and censure; five years of probation; postseason ban for 2002 and 2003; reduction in grants in the sport of football to 17 in 2002-03; 18 in 2003-04 and 19 in 2004-05; prohibiting of athletics representatives from traveling with football team charters, attending football team practices, participating in any fashion with the university's football camps and accessing sidelines and locker rooms before, during and after football games; the permanent dissociation of three athletics representatives; disassociation of another athletics representative for a period of three years and annual reporting. [PENALTIES UPHELD ON APPEAL

THE DIFFERENCE, Admin vs. Boosters

[bigsexxxy]

Why was Bama on probation again?:glare: Oh that's right. For cheatin to compete in the SEC!

Pfftt... hello pot, I'm kettle. How ya doin? Weren't you guys on probation an average of 1 out of every 3 years for about 50 years? Thats a whopping 33%. In fact, Tubby is the only coach you guys have ever had who has not fielded a team that was on probation.

[AUTiger94]

Pfftt... hello pot, I'm kettle. How ya doin? Weren't you guys on probation an average of 1 out of every 3 years for about 50 years? Thats a whopping 33%. In fact, Tubby is the only coach you guys have ever had who has not fielded a team that was on probation.

So if I apply your Bammer logic, the reason Bama was able to "dominate" for all those years was because we were down. Hmmmmmmm..... I guess y'all are still screwed.

[lacene]

Institution: Auburn University
Date: 18-AUG-93

Facts Summary: Cash and unsecured loans provided to student-athletes as extra benefits; lack of institutional control; unethical conduct.

Violation Summary: EXTRA BENEFITS: athletics representatives provided at least $4,000 in cash and merchandise; assistant coach provided $500; administrative assistant provided several thousand dollars in cash payments; athletics representative approved a $9,200 and several other unsecured loans based upon future earnings as professional athletes; student-athletes allowed to enroll with oustanding accounts with the university. LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. ERRONEOUS CERTIFICATION OF COMPLIANCE.

or

Institution: University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: 01-FEB-02

Facts Summary: Findings of violations of NCAA legislation included: recruiting inducements; impermissible recruiting contacts; recruiting inducements through high-school coaches; violation of honesty standards; violation of employment and salary controls; impermissible extra benefits, excessive entertainment during recruiting visit and impermissible recruiting contacts by athletics representatives.

Violation Summary: Athletics representatives actively engaged in violations of recruiting and extra-benefit legislation with prospective student-athletes and provided impermissible recruiting inducements through high-school coaches. Numerous secondary violations.

Penalty Summary: Public reprimand and censure; five years of probation; postseason ban for 2002 and 2003; reduction in grants in the sport of football to 17 in 2002-03; 18 in 2003-04 and 19 in 2004-05; prohibiting of athletics representatives from traveling with football team charters, attending football team practices, participating in any fashion with the university's football camps and accessing sidelines and locker rooms before, during and after football games; the permanent dissociation of three athletics representatives; disassociation of another athletics representative for a period of three years and annual reporting. [PENALTIES UPHELD ON APPEAL

THE DIFFERENCE, Admin vs. Boosters

...or, as the NCAA described the boosters, "Athletics Representatives". :whistle:


uhh, what about the '96-'99 period??

[bigsexxxy]

So if I apply your Bammer logic, the reason Bama was able to "dominate" for all those years was because we were down. Hmmmmmmm..... I guess y'all are still screwed.


Nah, not really. I don't really care if you beat us while we were on probation or vice-versa, you're just changing the subject.

Face it, Auburn is 2nd in NCAA probations with SEVENTEEN. And you want to come in here and talk about how we cheat?

[BamaFanNKy]

It was an improper bank loan a.k.a. a fan.

"So if I apply your Bammer logic, the reason Bama was able to "dominate" for all those years was because we were down. Hmmmmmmm..... I guess y'all are still screwed."

You forgot my logic also said we dominated you when you were down and won SEC and NC titles..... You guys have only four outright sec titles since your 1957 NC. We have the same amount of SEC titles since 1998. That way you can't complain about living in the past.

[AUTiger94]

Nah, not really. I don't really care if you beat us while we were on probation or vice-versa, you're just changing the subject.

Face it, Auburn is 2nd in NCAA probations with SEVENTEEN. And you want to come in here and talk about how we cheat?
I could care less if you cheat. You shall soon see how flawed your "they beat us b/c we were down" excuse really is. The party ain't over folks. :thumpsup: :thumpsup:

[bigsexxxy]

I could care less if you cheat. You shall soon see how flawed your "they beat us b/c we were down" excuse really is. The party ain't over folks. :thumpsup: :thumpsup:

I love how you completely skipped over how Auburn is a complete pack of cheaters.

Nice job. :thumbsdow

[shk999]

Nah, not really. I don't really care if you beat us while we were on probation or vice-versa, you're just changing the subject.

Face it, Auburn is 2nd in NCAA probations with SEVENTEEN. And you want to come in here and talk about how we cheat?

Man Im glad your a bammer.

[SECSportsTalk]

Beating the team on probation is easy. It's not impressive to have a win streak against a weak team (YES ALABAMA HAS BEEN WEAK)

Doesn't Auburn have a winning record over Bammer while on the times they had probation? I believe Auburn does, but correct me if I am wrong.

[SECSportsTalk]

Nah, not really. I don't really care if you beat us while we were on probation or vice-versa, you're just changing the subject.

Face it, Auburn is 2nd in NCAA probations with SEVENTEEN. And you want to come in here and talk about how we cheat?

I remember reading an article talking about Bammer being put on probation and it said Auburn was only caught six times. I think Oklahoma and a few others are tied for second with seven times and SMU has the most with eight. If Auburn was caught seventeen times wouldn't we evenually recieve the death penalty for cheating?

[BamaFanNKy]

ONLY six times..... I'll use that with my wife. You think she'll go for it?

[lacene]

I remember reading an article talking about Bammer being put on probation and it said Auburn was only caught six times. I think Oklahoma and a few others are tied for second with seven times and SMU has the most with eight. If Auburn was caught seventeen times wouldn't we evenually recieve the death penalty for cheating?

What you are referring to is the # of sanctions placed on Div. 1A FOOTBALL programs. I'm hoping that what bigsexxxy is referring to is the total sanctions placed on ALL of Auburns athletic programs. Otherwise bigsexxxy would be way incorrect.....

[SECSportsTalk]

What you are referring to is the # of sanctions placed on Div. 1A FOOTBALL programs. I'm hoping that what bigsexxxy is referring to is the total sanctions placed on ALL of Auburns athletic programs. Otherwise bigsexxxy would be way incorrect.....

He never said what he was talking about.

[BamaDude06]

SMU and Arizona State lead the NCAA with 8 major infractions each.

Auburn is tied for second (7 major infractions) with Texas A&M, Minnesotta, Wisconsin, and Wichita State.

https://web1.ncaa.org/pdf/convert?pdfurl=http://goomer.ncaa.org:2020/wdbctx/lsdbi/lsdbi.lsdbi_mi_rpts.mostinfractionsrpt