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AUFootball24
02-13-2007, 08:12 PM
Simple question, which scoring style do you want? Roto or H2H. If you're not familiar with the systems, here they are.

I have played both multiple times before and strongly recommend Roto. However, the choice is up to you. I believe in running a fair league in which you all get to vote on the decisions made.

Rotisserie Leagues

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In a Rotisserie League, fantasy teams are ranked from first to last in each of several statistical categories. Points are then awarded according to the order of finish in each category, and are totaled to determine an overall score and place.

So, if you are in a 12-team league, the team with the most home runs will receive 12 points, the team with the second most will receive 11 points, etc. In the case of a tie, each team involved receives an average of the total points due—i.e., in the above example, if two teams were tied for first in homers, each would receive 11.5 points [(12 + 11) / 2 = 11.5].

Therefore, the maximum number of points that a team can earn is equal to the number of scoring categories within a league multiplied by the number of teams in the league. Similarly, the lowest number of points that a team can earn is equal to the number of scoring categories multiplied by one, which is the lowest score that can be achieved in any category.

So, if you were playing in a league with 12 teams and 12 scoring categories, the lowest point total possible is 12 [12 * 1 = 12] and the highest is 144 [12 * 12 = 144].

Rankings within the individual scoring categories (HR, RBI, etc.) are based on the cumulative stats earned by all active players during the season and not on any individual day or game.

Therefore, the overall ranking of your team will rise and fall depending on how it performs relative to the performance of other league members. So, the phenomenon of "losing points" can be explained as your rank falling in one or more of the statistical categories used in your league.


Head-to-Head Leagues

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In a Head-to-Head League, your team will square off in a weekly matchup against another manager's team to see who can compile the best stats across a number of different categories.

A new weekly matchup begins every Monday and will consist of a set number of games based on your league's statistical categories. Each stat category counts as one game, with the win going to the team that finishes the week with the highest total in that category (the cumulative total after each Sunday's games).

So, if in a given week, your team hits more home runs than your opponent's, you would be credited with a victory. However, if your opponent's team ended the week with more saves than your team, you would be charged with a loss. If the two teams end up tied in a given category, each will receive credit for a tied game.

This weekly win-loss total will be added to a cumulative season record, which will be used to determine standings and playoff seedings. These standings will be based on your team's overall winning percentage, which is calculated by taking your win total and adding 1/2 of your tie total and dividing the sum by the total number of games your team has played.

Head-to-head scoring is available in both Public and Custom Leagues. All Public Leagues use the same default settings, while Custom League commissioners will be able to specify a number of settings, including roster size and stat categories.

Seppeh
02-13-2007, 08:27 PM
I vote for Roto.

GAMECOCK_FAN
02-13-2007, 08:37 PM
I've done both and enjoyed both. I voted Roto but will be happy with whichever system is used.

OmahaBound
02-13-2007, 08:48 PM
I prefer H2H just because of the vacation factor and whatnot. If your team sits idle for a couple of weeks due to vacation it could conceivably hurt you a lot more in Roto then in H2H. I enjoy the playoff system as well since anyone in the top 6 can take home the title. Seeing as how only one more vote for Roto is needed to end the debate, I've really just wasted a couple minutes typing this up, heh. BACK TO THE BOOKS!

WayzUp
02-14-2007, 09:45 AM
I've played for a number of years myself, I used to run a fantasy baseball league in high school back in '88 and had to use one of those thick notebooks, a pen and a newspaper to run the whole thing. My study hall hours were never long enough....I digress...

The biggest difference between H2H & Roto leagues isn't so much missing time cuz with Yahoo you can set your lineup for months in advance as long as injuries and such don't screw with you too much...not to mention keeping track of who's starting what day two weeks from now. I think the difference comes in being able to make up ground in the standings easier with H2H than with Roto.

If you fall behind in any category in Roto, you're pretty much screwed cuz you're getting your stats compared to (thus competing against) every team in the league whereas with H2H, you're matching your best against your opponents best for one week only so one add/drop here or there could make a huge difference in the outcome...if you're weak in Steals and so is your opponent, you can pick up an available leadoff guy with speed who's going up against weak pitching teams that week and hope he gets two or three steals and wins that category for you. Or say you realize you're no match in Steals that week so you move to shore up Saves since the guy you're playing that week & yourself look very similar in terms of closers/RP's. In Roto, moves like that take weeks to make any difference standings-wise (if they do at all) and one injury to a key player can take you out of the whole thing before it really begins. Example: I drafted Derek Lee both my leagues last year...you think if either of those were Roto that I'd be able to make up for his missing 4/5 of the season with a broken wrist? In H2H play, it's a little easier to spot-fill for hard luck like that.

I'll play either way but I prefer H2H.

Ok, I'm done. Soapbox cracking, must get down now.

blues_cap
02-14-2007, 12:25 PM
we played h2h last year and i enjoyed it a lot. i go with h2h

AUTiger94
02-14-2007, 01:37 PM
we played h2h last year and i enjoyed it a lot. i go with h2h

Ditto! Change is bad! We fear change!:blink:

Cianne
02-14-2007, 01:47 PM
Roto generally gets the owners more involved since they are compared to all owners in the leagues. Trades will occur more rather than just holding on to players.

AUFootball24
02-14-2007, 02:09 PM
H2H takes little to no strategy....

AUFootball24
02-14-2007, 02:11 PM
Ditto! Change is bad! We fear change!:blink:

The first leagues I played in were H2H and I, like you, feared the change.

A few seasons and change later I realize what I was missing. Roto is the way to go! Much more interactive, strategic, and shows who the TRUE best team is.

The head to head champion is never the best team in the league. The roto team always is. I just feel the champ should be the best team.

Kevhugh
02-14-2007, 04:17 PM
I voted head to head for the simple fact that by the halfway point of roto 2/3 of the teams are out of it for good. With that being said, I've played plenty of both and I'll do whatever.

Seppeh
02-14-2007, 04:20 PM
Guess H2H it is.

AUFootball24
02-14-2007, 04:40 PM
Head to Head it is! (unfortunately) :laugh:

blues_cap
02-15-2007, 04:13 PM
here's a novel idea: do two different leagues. i would try roto but like h2h right now. i have no problem trying both but if people dont want to play both, they can play the one they want.

just brainstorming here....:tongue:

AUFootball24
02-15-2007, 04:16 PM
I don't think we have enough interest for two leagues. I'm only running one.

WayzUp
02-15-2007, 05:14 PM
I don't think we have enough interest for two leagues. I'm only running one.
Yahoo allows you to be in 4 leagues per account. Just create one of each and we'll all join both. No?

AUFootball24
02-15-2007, 05:53 PM
Yahoo allows you to be in 4 leagues per account. Just create one of each and we'll all join both. No?

I'm all full.

1. My keeper league
2. I'm running a league from PewterReport.com
3. I'm running SECtalk.com
4. I always do a public league

I'll do the roto one. If someone else wants to do H2H, they are more than welcome and I encourage them to do so.

Actually...on second thought I have been having a change of my thoughts and think that H2H might be more fun for a message board league as it allows for more parody and trash talk. I'll decide which one to run later.

scfan5338
02-15-2007, 06:01 PM
Actually...on second thought I have been having a change of my thoughts and think that H2H might be more fun for a message board league as it allows for more parody and trash talk. I'll decide which one to run later.


I personally think H2H is more fun. You battle one person for a week and then win or lose. It creates some intensity and some rivarly I guess and like you said a lotta people talk trash when they beat the other. In Roto its just if your'e down early its extremely hard to come back unlike H2H.

AUTiger94
02-15-2007, 06:58 PM
I personally think H2H is more fun. You battle one person for a week and then win or lose. It creates some intensity and some rivarly I guess and like you said a lotta people talk trash when they beat the other. In Roto its just if your'e down early its extremely hard to come back unlike H2H.
Seriously, if we had done Roto last year i wouldn't have come back from next to last to finish third. I like a little challenge like that every now and then. This year I think I'll go wire to wire in first just for giggles.:happy:

AUFootball24
02-15-2007, 08:25 PM
All right, guys. I'll be running the H2H I guess. It did win the poll from the group of guys that I got together, so I'm obligated to do so.

I'll set it up tomorrow. League ID and password will be sent out by PM.

Does anyone have an objection of going to 14? In h2h an even number of managers is required. Right now, we have 13. Better to add 1 than cut 1, makes the league more competitive.

If no one speaks up strongly against it I'll set the league up for 14.

Gamecocks4Ever
02-17-2007, 10:52 PM
Hmm, I've been away for weeks. Is it too late to join?