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SoonerManiac
02-13-2007, 12:48 AM
NCAA finds fault with OU. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2763389)

NORMAN, Okla. -- The NCAA alleges Oklahoma failed to adequately monitor the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year.

The NCAA's findings came in an investigation after Oklahoma self-reported violations and dismissed starting quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn in August for taking excess pay from a Norman car dealership where they worked.

Oklahoma disclosed Monday that it had received its notice of allegations from the NCAA and is scheduled to appear before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions on April 14 in Indianapolis.

The NCAA asked athletic director Joe Castiglione and football coach Bob Stoops to attend the meeting, along with compliance officials, general counsel Joseph Harroz and director of football operations Merv Johnson.

Oklahoma also appeared before the committee last April following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff.

"We are eager to move forward toward the conclusion of this matter," Castiglione said in a statement.

In its notice, the NCAA claims Oklahoma didn't follow its own guidelines when it "did not collect gross earning statements for the 12 football student-athletes who notified the institution of their employment at Big Red during the 2005 summer vacation period ... and as a result the institution did not detect the violations" it self-reported.

Oklahoma claims it did not detect the football players' employment because the players did not complete required forms. The university also claims it was transitioning duties at a time when the NCAA alleges that Oklahoma failed to collect some of its monitoring forms in a timely manner.

The NCAA points out that the failure to monitor occured "despite receiving information that at least one student-athlete worked at Big Red during the academic year."

"From our perspective, any allegation related to our monitoring activities, no matter how limited, is not warranted," Castiglione said in the statement. "The NCAA does not appear to be contesting the speed of our response or the action that we took."

"I think any school would agree that monitoring practices can always be improved, and we constantly seek to improve our practices, but we also recognize that it was our staff that originally uncovered and reported the violations that had occurred. Upon completing our investigation, the university took action above and beyond what was required under the NCAA rules."

Bomar and Quinn were both dismissed from the program and transferred to Division I-AA schools -- Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana. Bomar was ordered to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100.

Oklahoma has also banned athletes from working at the Norman car dealership where Bomar and Quinn were employed until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership from being involved with the university's athletics program. The dealership is now under new ownership.

Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall.

Stoops has said the players "knowingly" broke the rules.

SoonerManiac
02-13-2007, 12:50 AM
Kind of sucks. I honestly didn't think anything would happen since OU reported it immediately once they found out. Now I'm kind of worried. Also makes you wonder if USC is going to get beat down since theirs was a lot worse than OU's.

They f'n better!


Either way, BOOMER SOONER!

AUChamps
02-13-2007, 07:53 AM
Kind of sucks. I honestly didn't think anything would happen since OU reported it immediately once they found out. Now I'm kind of worried. Also makes you wonder if USC is going to get beat down since theirs was a lot worse than OU's.

They f'n better!


Either way, BOOMER SOONER!
Now see, why couldn't OU commit their infractions back during the 2004 season like USC did? Then both schools would get the book thrown at them and Auburn would legitimately be able to call itself National Champs by technicality.

SoonerManiac
02-15-2007, 09:32 PM
Now see, why couldn't OU commit their infractions back during the 2004 season like USC did? Then both schools would get the book thrown at them and Auburn would legitimately be able to call itself National Champs by technicality.

You won't get an argument from me that Auburn deserved to be there. I firmly believe that any team that can not win its own conference doesn't belong.

AUChamps
02-15-2007, 09:36 PM
You won't get an argument from me that Auburn deserved to be there. I firmly believe that any team that can not win its own conference doesn't belong.
Be honest too, until you guys got raped by USC 55-19, you honestly thought you were the #2 team in the nation as you had been ranked all year and Auburn was nowhere near your talent level.

It's just a damn shame that you guys got embarrassed in the Orange Bowl and we never got the chance to play payback to USC for how they beat us the past 2 years in homeopener games. 2004 was our season to make up for the beatings USC put on us in 2002 and 2003. We had the talent and offensive scheme to win. We didn't have Al Borges when we lost to USC, remember that.

BamaDude06
02-15-2007, 09:37 PM
NCAA:

OU case: "They were cooperative and handled things right, so we are going to slam them hard."

USC case: *pick up rug....sweep sweep*

Seppeh
02-15-2007, 09:38 PM
04 USC was there best team out of this whole run they have put up. Auburn would have been beat by 2 TDs atleast.

AUChamps
02-15-2007, 09:38 PM
NCAA:

OU case: "They were cooperative and handled things right, so we are going to slam them hard."

USC case: *pick up rug....sweep sweep*
Either way, it just proves that even on technicalities and infractions, there's no way in hell Auburn will ever get a sniff of the 2004 NC, retroactively or otherwise.

AUChamps
02-15-2007, 09:39 PM
04 USC was there best team out of this whole run they have put up. Auburn would have been beat by 2 TDs atleast.
They beat us in 2002 and waxed us in 2003.

No way in hell would they do the same 3 times in a row. We're not Alabama.

SoonerManiac
02-15-2007, 10:17 PM
They beat us in 2002 and waxed us in 2003.

No way in hell would they do the same 3 times in a row. We're not Alabama.

I am sure OU fans said the same thing for years during two of Texas' 8 year winning streaks against us.

And yes, I do believe we were better than Auburn. Doesn't mean we had the right to be there however.

And I don't think USC was that much better than OU. It is was a case of OU trying to hard and not getting the plays, and USC doing so. Plus, I think Norm Chow is a modern day football genius.

WallyGoat
02-16-2007, 09:50 AM
04 USC was there best team out of this whole run they have put up. Auburn would have been beat by 2 TDs atleast.

Bam! That's what I was saying in another thread about 2 weeks back. :thumpsup: Rep Up!