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UKat
01-10-2007, 05:34 PM
This was interesting......snuk over to lousy10talk to see if their still crying. Thought y'all might find it interesting and entertaining too!

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Okay Okay..I was just on SECTALK.com (poor site comparitively) and my feelings got hurt with all the talk of our weak schedule so I thought I should set some things straight.

I'll give one overwhelming example of why the SEC is overrated: ARKANSAS, winner of the SEC west which is obviously the stronger of the two divisions. We are talking about a team that got hammered and I mean hammered by a mediocre USC team at home. We are talking about a team that runs an antiquated single wing /veer offense that most High Schools have moved beyond. Were talking about a team who's best QB all season was their tailback.Were talking about a team that beat Auburn and....eh..uh...yeah. Auburn was overrated all year long. Were talking about a program that hadnt been to a bowl game since '03.

Okay, now Florida had a tough schedule huh?..Yes when you look at the surface you would think so but. They really only had two quality wins in my opinion(LSU@home, @Tenn). The rest are trash...Alabama is a joke that struggled with Duke and lost to Miss St., Georgia lost to Vandy and Kentucky, enough said. S.Carolina cant score and cant decide on a QB (coaching tendency). FSU cant beat their way out of a wet paper sack and didnt deserve a bowl berth this year.

When you look below the surface, UF's schedule wasnt as impressive as everyone would like you to beleive. And the sad part about that is that they struggled to beat nearly every team on their schedule. I beleive that on Jan.8th the nation will truly see that the elite Big Ten teams have matched and even eclipsed the SEC in team speed and overall football talent on the field. Bring on that Pee-Wee football offense that florida runs,bring on Percy Harvin( Floridas only playmaker), bring on Tim Tebow, and bring on Chris Leak-the most underacheiving quarterback to ever play scared down in and down out. Good Luck Florida, you'll need it.
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jonthetiger337
01-10-2007, 05:48 PM
Ohio State almost lost to Illinois. Who has Illinois beaten? Ohio State almost lost to Michigan @ HOME. Who has Michigan beat? You can say Wisconsin, but who have they beat?

BamaDude06
01-10-2007, 05:52 PM
What does Michigan think about that "mediocre" USC team?

jonthetiger337
01-10-2007, 06:03 PM
lol, that mediocre team beat michigan worse than ohio state did.

Cianne
01-10-2007, 06:03 PM
You can say Wisconsin, but who have they beat?

Well the obvious answer is Arkansas.

shk999
01-10-2007, 06:49 PM
I only see the obvious............He can preach about who beat who and quality wins but has he forgotten MONDAY NIGHT?? Regardless of who FLA played, the stomped a mudhole in OSU.

CrimsonTide12xs
01-10-2007, 07:00 PM
I think that was posted before the Jan 8. a$$ whooping extravaganza.

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UKat
01-10-2007, 07:21 PM
I think that was posted before the Jan 8. a$$ whooping extravaganza.

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gatorunvrsty
01-10-2007, 07:41 PM
I'm a member at DeerTesticles and LittleTenTalk, and I haven't exactly been rubbing it in, but, y'all know me :evil: ; I have been pointing out that everything I said was going to happen, happened. It's really great for UF fans; because by getting a SWEEP of OSU, they don't have any "but's" to come back with. And with UM and OSU both getting SPANKED, there is no argument about the NC game. Not to mention LSU bending ND ( who the 10 keeps trying to get to join ) over and slipping them a 41-14 enema. All the argument is about now; is how did OSU get into the NC game!?:icon_rofl How's that for a switch? I just sit and laugh to myself as I imagine their heads are about to burst and their fingers can't work the keyboard fast enough, trying to save face. All I can say is, that happens to the cocky and conceited all the time. It just happened to them twice in about 3 weeks, by the same school. I told them UF was going to show them how far from great they really were. :crying: :cry:

CrimsonTide12xs
01-10-2007, 07:49 PM
I'm a member at DeerTesticles and LittleTenTalk, and I haven't exactly been rubbing it in, but, y'all know me :evil: ; I have been pointing out that everything I said was going to happen, happened. It's really great for UF fans; because by getting a SWEEP of OSU, they don't have any "but's" to come back with. And with UM and OSU both getting SPANKED, there is no argument about the NC game. Not to mention LSU bending ND ( who the 10 keeps trying to get to join ) over and slipping them a 41-14 enema. All the argument is about now; is how did OSU get into the NC game!?:icon_rofl How's that for a switch? I just sit and laugh to myself as I imagine their heads are about to burst and their fingers can't work the keyboard fast enough, trying to save face. All I can say is, that happens to the cocky and conceited all the time. It just happened to them twice in about 3 weeks, by the same school. I told them UF was going to show them how far from great they really were. :crying: :cry:
LOL!!!! That's great.

Gator2753
01-10-2007, 09:31 PM
Ive been keeping an eye on BTT and that was posted over a month ago. Still they should feel pretty silly now for posting such garbage as that.
And saying SEC talk is a poor site compared to BTT... :laugh: Thats a laugh!

GTTiger
01-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Arkansas is probably the only team in the nation that can say they lost to 4 of the top 5 teams in Florida, LSU, USC, and Wisconsin

shk999
01-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Arkansas is probably the only team in the nation that can say they lost to 4 of the top 5 teams in Florida, LSU, USC, and Wisconsin

That is a great point, and I really believe that if they play USC on any day other than "opening day", I dont know if ARK wins but I dont believe it would be a beatdown of epic proportions.

AUChamps
01-10-2007, 10:11 PM
That is a great point, and I really believe that if they play USC on any day other than "opening day", I dont know if ARK wins but I dont believe it would be a beatdown of epic proportions.
What about our beatdown by Arkansas? Do you believe if kickoff had been anytime other then 11 AM that we would have had a closer game? And same question but this time for UGA?

gatorunvrsty
01-10-2007, 10:29 PM
What about our beatdown by Arkansas? Do you believe if kickoff had been anytime other then 11 AM that we would have had a closer game? And same question but this time for UGA?
:duh: :huh: What do you mean? What does kickoff time have to do with anything? Both teams start playing at the same time. Are you saying Arkansas started playing before Auburn got to the stadium? :icon_rofl

AUChamps
01-10-2007, 10:34 PM
:duh: :huh: What do you mean? What does kickoff time have to do with anything? Both teams start playing at the same time. Are you saying Arkansas started playing before Auburn got to the stadium? :icon_rofl
I'm saying if we played at 2:30 or 6:45 PM would Auburn have come out looking better?

shk999
01-10-2007, 10:49 PM
What about our beatdown by Arkansas? Do you believe if kickoff had been anytime other then 11 AM that we would have had a closer game? And same question but this time for UGA?

What does that have to do with anything?? I was just trying to give some props to ARK. Do you have to "flame" everything I say?? No I dont believe Kickoff time had anything to do with the "Beatdowns" that you recieved by ARK and UGA. You really dont know what I am talking about do you? You really dont know why people try to schedule LA Tech or Vandy for opening day instead of USC. How long have you been watching CFB?

AUChamps
01-10-2007, 10:55 PM
What does that have to do with anything?? I was just trying to give some props to ARK. Do you have to "flame" everything I say?? No I dont believe Kickoff time had anything to do with the "Beatdowns" that you recieved by ARK and UGA. You really dont know what I am talking about do you? You really dont know why people try to schedule LA Tech or Vandy for opening day instead of USC. How long have you been watching CFB?
Long enough to know it doesn't work when you schedule USCwest for your home opener(Auburn and Arkansas raises hands) and it does work when you schedule LA-Monroe or Western Carolina as your 1st game.

gatorunvrsty
01-10-2007, 10:57 PM
I'm saying if we played at 2:30 or 6:45 PM would Auburn have come out looking better?
Of course not! :blink: Both teams had to play at 11:00 A.M.. :brick: If anything, Auburn had the advantage in both games, because they were the home team and didn't have to drive.

shk999
01-10-2007, 11:46 PM
Long enough to know it doesn't work when you schedule USCwest for your home opener(Auburn and Arkansas raises hands) and it does work when you schedule LA-Monroe or Western Carolina as your 1st game.

Ok, so far so good, now, do you know why you want a powder puff team on opening day?

AUChamps
01-10-2007, 11:58 PM
Ok, so far so good, now, do you know why you want a powder puff team on opening day?
Because when we get a GA Tech or USC to open the year with, we have a recent track record of being beat. WSU was a pleasant change from that and hopefully whoever we get this year will be a quality win for us too.

SeanVol
01-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Well the obvious answer is Arkansas.


I do think the Big10 is overrated, but I do believe that Wisconsin Defense is underrated.

kinfolk41684
01-11-2007, 12:05 AM
I don't believe that any team is overrated, because the media are the ones making you think that a team is overrated, because they constantly talk about them ( like Ohio State ). I think everyone should reword overrated to over covered.

ColonelKurtz
01-11-2007, 12:08 AM
Big Snow fans are no less arrogant than any other nor are they any less passionate. The mashed nutz fans are pretty uppity but again, no less so than those of other storied & successful programs.

That said, there was a line in Braveheart by Longshanks: "Does anyone know what the problem is with Scotland? It's full of Scots!"

:whistle: :blink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

AUChamps, you're right about facing a monster in the opener for 90% of the teams out there. Eating a cupcake to start with is good for younger teams but if you want to gain early attention nothing like knocking off a big boy.

But in the two losses, AU was flatter than flat both times. Everybody has episodes of unexplainable feetsball amnesia and if we knew why, we'd be making the big bucks. But in y'alls case it seemed that the team suddenly began to press and that's generally not a good thing. Toss in a motivated opponent and a little bad fortune quickly becomes a disaster. Dawgs really suffered from it during that Dark Month. Happened to Ohio State just the other night.

MSHawg
01-11-2007, 12:12 AM
We weren't the only one that probably lost to 4 out the top 5. We were the only one. I don't know whether to be upset or not bc this wasnt suspposed to be our year. Anyway we lost to 4 out of the top 5.

WPS!!

shk999
01-11-2007, 12:15 AM
Because when we get a GA Tech or USC to open the year with, we have a recent track record of being beat. WSU was a pleasant change from that and hopefully whoever we get this year will be a quality win for us too.

Because on opening day, more times than not you usually dont play your best game, call it opening day gitters. If you have a weaker opponent, you have a little more room to make a couple of mistakes and work out the bugs. When you play USC, working out the bugs will get you down 21-0 in the first quater.

AUChamps
01-11-2007, 12:17 AM
We weren't the only one that probably lost to 4 out the top 5. We were the only one. I don't know whether to be upset or not bc this wasnt suspposed to be our year. Anyway we lost to 4 out of the top 5.

WPS!!
Yeah but you beat our asses in our house. Take that for what its worth.

AUChamps
01-11-2007, 12:19 AM
Because on opening day, more times than not you usually dont play your best game, call it opening day gitters. If you have a weaker opponent, you have a little more room to make a couple of mistakes and work out the bugs. When you play USC, working out the bugs will get you down 21-0 in the first quater.
You guys start with Western Carolina then make a road trip to Nashville for some Vandy Bashing.

shk999
01-11-2007, 12:31 AM
You guys start with Western Carolina then make a road trip to Nashville for some Vandy Bashing.

You dont say, what does that have to do with ARK playing USC on opening day in 05 and 06? :brick: Later

BamaDude06
01-11-2007, 12:32 AM
Long enough to know it doesn't work when you schedule USCwest for your home opener(Auburn and Arkansas raises hands) and it does work when you schedule LA-Monroe or Western Carolina as your 1st game.
Who had the "better" home opener this year?
Auburn-Washington State
or
Alabama Hawai'i?

Alabama.

Congrats on figuring out to schedule tougher opponents btw. Bama starts adding back tougher opponents this year now that probation is over.

frygator
01-11-2007, 12:51 AM
This is the best post I've seen form a Buckeye fan.

field position is what win every game. Specially when they posses our endzone and we posses squat.

goallthewayua
01-11-2007, 09:00 AM
Who had the "better" home opener this year?
Auburn-Washington State
or
Alabama Hawai'i?

Alabama.

Congrats on figuring out to schedule tougher opponents btw. Bama starts adding back tougher opponents this year now that probation is over.

Their are a lot of good points made in this thread. I'll add a few also

I actually had Hawaii upsetting bama their first game because I didn't consider them a cupcake. Hawaii had a good team with an offense that SEC defenses never play against.

First, wasn't the Cotton Bowl at 11:00a.m.

Third, always schedule a cupcake for your first game. In our case I would like to see 2, but next year we have Troy and then go to Tuscaloosa for Bama.

Fourth, we should have beaten Wisconsin. Usually I won't lay a loss on the feet of the refs, but anyone who watched that game knows that we got royally screwed. Here's a few Stats:

Total Offense:

Arkansas-368 Wisconsin-201

Rushing Yards

Arkansas-232 Wisconsin- -5

Passing Yards

Arkansas-136 Wisconsin-206

Turnovers

Arkansas-3 Wisconsin-3

Penalalties

Arkansas- (12) 123 yards Wisconsin - (4) 35 yards


Now I'm not saying that all the penalties were bs. To be honest its hard to tell because ABC wouldn't show the play after a penalty. Instead they would show the three gobbers in the press box talking about Disney World. A lot of our penalities gave up first downs or second and shorts in Wisconsin territory and thats why we lost. I've never seen an Arkansas game where we gave up more penalty yards. My favorite was the face mask on our long snapper that game them about 40 yards of field position. Big East officials suck and thats why we lost.

WDavE
01-11-2007, 09:50 AM
Who had the "better" home opener this year?
Auburn-Washington State
or
Alabama Hawai'i?

Alabama.

Congrats on figuring out to schedule tougher opponents btw. Bama starts adding back tougher opponents this year now that probation is over.


Western Carolina D-1AA which lost to Florida this last year by over 60.
FSU probably their worst team in a decade last year.
Houston
La. Monroe
Now our schedule is no better at this point but I didn't make a statement like you did either. Auburn went to Notre Dame and Michigan and offered a home and home and both declined. Oregon St. looks to be backing out as well as K-State. We do add Virginia Tech in another year or so.

AUChamps
01-11-2007, 10:08 AM
Western Carolina D-1AA which lost to Florida this last year by over 60.
FSU probably their worst team in a decade last year.
Houston
La. Monroe
Now our schedule is no better at this point but I didn't make a statement like you did either. Auburn went to Notre Dame and Michigan and offered a home and home and both declined. Oregon St. looks to be backing out as well as K-State. We do add Virginia Tech in another year or so.
West Virginia, actually.

WDavE
01-11-2007, 10:48 AM
My bad and you are correct.....West Virginia

BamaDude06
01-11-2007, 10:59 AM
Western Carolina D-1AA which lost to Florida this last year by over 60.
FSU probably their worst team in a decade last year.
Houston
La. Monroe
Now our schedule is no better at this point but I didn't make a statement like you did either. Auburn went to Notre Dame and Michigan and offered a home and home and both declined. Oregon St. looks to be backing out as well as K-State. We do add Virginia Tech in another year or so.
There is the problem with future scheduling. When we signed the deal with FSU they won the ACC.
In the future Bama adds Georgia Tech and Penn State, in the last few years we did home and home with UCLA and OU. Past 2008 there are few know OOC games so who knows what they will hold. Moore has said he wants to schedule some big name matchups. An article last year listed several schools he wanted to try and schedule, and USC was one of them.

goallthewayua
01-11-2007, 11:05 AM
Arkansas's non confrence is pretty weak next year also. In our defense we had to bump TCU and suspend talks with OU to get a home and home with Texas in 08/09

gatorunvrsty
01-11-2007, 11:10 AM
UF's in a unique position. We pick up our old rivalry with Thug U. in '08. And we already play F$U home and home every year. Neither team was that good this year, but they're both annual power-houses with two fists full of NC rings, and yearly top 10 rankings. So, we'll have 2 tough OOC games every year right in our own state. Anybody who thinks either program will stay down for long, falls and bumps their head too much.

CrimsonTide12xs
01-11-2007, 12:25 PM
Their are a lot of good points made in this thread. I'll add a few also

I actually had Hawaii upsetting bama their first game because I didn't consider them a cupcake. Hawaii had a good team with an offense that SEC defenses never play against.

First, wasn't the Cotton Bowl at 11:00a.m.

Third, always schedule a cupcake for your first game. In our case I would like to see 2, but next year we have Troy and then go to Tuscaloosa for Bama.

Fourth, we should have beaten Wisconsin. Usually I won't lay a loss on the feet of the refs, but anyone who watched that game knows that we got royally screwed. Here's a few Stats:

Total Offense:

Arkansas-368 Wisconsin-201

Rushing Yards

Arkansas-232 Wisconsin- -5

Passing Yards

Arkansas-136 Wisconsin-206

Turnovers

Arkansas-3 Wisconsin-3

Penalalties

Arkansas- (12) 123 yards Wisconsin - (4) 35 yards


Now I'm not saying that all the penalties were bs. To be honest its hard to tell because ABC wouldn't show the play after a penalty. Instead they would show the three gobbers in the press box talking about Disney World. A lot of our penalities gave up first downs or second and shorts in Wisconsin territory and thats why we lost. I've never seen an Arkansas game where we gave up more penalty yards. My favorite was the face mask on our long snapper that game them about 40 yards of field position. Big East officials suck and thats why we lost.
Man I totally agree on that one. Arkansas got screwed by the refs in that game. 136 passing yards is pretty good considering UW's corner backs were hanging like monkeys all over AR's receivers. I think the refs called pass inter. one time on UW. Every time I think about that game it makes me sick. Not only for the fact that AR lost but the ref's blatant disregard for pass int. from UW.

Chief Broom
01-11-2007, 04:44 PM
Big Snow fans are no less arrogant than any other nor are they any less passionate. The mashed nutz fans are pretty uppity but again, no less so than those of other storied & successful programs.

That said, there was a line in Braveheart by Longshanks: "Does anyone know what the problem is with Scotland? It's full of Scots!"

:whistle: :blink: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

AUChamps, you're right about facing a monster in the opener for 90% of the teams out there. Eating a cupcake to start with is good for younger teams but if you want to gain early attention nothing like knocking off a big boy.

But in the two losses, AU was flatter than flat both times. Everybody has episodes of unexplainable feetsball amnesia and if we knew why, we'd be making the big bucks. But in y'alls case it seemed that the team suddenly began to press and that's generally not a good thing. Toss in a motivated opponent and a little bad fortune quickly becomes a disaster. Dawgs really suffered from it during that Dark Month. Happened to Ohio State just the other night.
I think Mel must have picked up that Longshanks quote from a bar he was in drinking tequila, I've heard it since the 70s as "the only thing wrong with Texas...

gatorunvrsty
01-11-2007, 05:56 PM
I've been checking out some more of the posts on Bucknuts and BigTen. It's far worse than I expected. These folks are pathetic. Listening to all the excuses and formulas for what they SHOULD have done and what WOULD have happened if only they'd done this and that, has made me nauseous. You'd think with all those experts, Tressel would've called on them to help with the game plan. They couldn't have made it any worse. I like what Auburn73 said in another post. Just going to have to pat their head and let them go sulk. I've never seen so much analysis of a thumping like that. All the objective people who had no stake in the game just said a bunch of really fast, mean guys ran circles around a bunch of big, slow guys.

GatorNation
01-11-2007, 07:50 PM
I've been checking out some more of the posts on Bucknuts and BigTen. It's far worse than I expected. These folks are pathetic. Listening to all the excuses and formulas for what they SHOULD have done and what WOULD have happened if only they'd done this and that, has made me nauseous. You'd think with all those experts, Tressel would've called on them to help with the game plan. They couldn't have made it any worse. I like what Auburn73 said in another post. Just going to have to pat their head and let them go sulk. I've never seen so much analysis of a thumping like that. All the objective people who had no stake in the game just said a bunch of really fast, mean guys ran circles around a bunch of big, slow guys.

OSU was totally throttled in the national title game (the first ever BCS NC game, mind you), and Tressel was completely outcoached.......out-everything, actually.

I'd be disappointed if they weren't committing internet suicde over there. It was worse than bad....it was our first complete game all season, and we offered total domination, especially on defense, where we held the Nuts to the lowest offensive output in BCS history.

It's funny, I just finished playing Florida/OSU in NCAA 07 (in the Fiesta Bowl....NCAA doesn't have Glendale's site), and I beat 'em 76-21 (on Heisman). What's funny is that the computer had a better defensive gameplan than the real-life Nuts. It was giving me all kinds of looks, zone blitzes, the 30 stack, 4-3, the 46...the sent the kitchen sink in terms of scheme, and even though I had a much better offensive output (76 points, 550+ yards...due, of course, to my offensive football genius, lol), the real Gators' defense (84 total yards) actually did better than I did (127 total yards).

shk999
01-11-2007, 07:59 PM
I've been checking out some more of the posts on Bucknuts and BigTen. It's far worse than I expected. These folks are pathetic. Listening to all the excuses and formulas for what they SHOULD have done and what WOULD have happened if only they'd done this and that, has made me nauseous. You'd think with all those experts, Tressel would've called on them to help with the game plan. They couldn't have made it any worse. I like what Auburn73 said in another post. Just going to have to pat their head and let them go sulk. I've never seen so much analysis of a thumping like that. All the objective people who had no stake in the game just said a bunch of really fast, mean guys ran circles around a bunch of big, slow guys.

Dont be too hard on the stupid yankees, this is all probally just part of the healing process.