ESPN's Game Day 2007 Top 5

[GTTiger]

Herbstriet

1)USC
2)LSU
3)Florida
4)Michigan
5)Rutgers

Desmond

1)Florida
2)LSU
3)USC
4)West VA
5)Michigan

Corso

1)USC
2)LSU
3)Michigan
4)Texas
5)West VA

[Cianne]

Corso isn't a fan of Timmy Tebow apparently.

[WallyGoat]

What's with the Michigan rankings? :blink: And the Rutgers and WVU rankings are a bit high. There are some good teams out there that should be higher than Rutgers and WVU.

[azamugg]

Rutgers? what a joke, great team but an anomoly at best

[jonthetiger337]

They think highly of LSU, I'm surprised they're that high, but happy with it.

[Cianne]

Michigan is ranked high simply because Henne and Hart will be back along with Manningham and Arrington. Of course the entire defense is gone but it was obvious they didn't do much in the big games against Ohio State and USC anyway.

[GTTiger]

herbstriet said that he always puts a dark horse at the #5 spot when it's this early of predictions.

They also all figured that the big east champion would go undefeated

[WallyGoat]

Michigan is ranked high simply because Henne and Hart will be back along with Manningham and Arrington. Of course the entire defense is gone but it was obvious they didn't do much in the big games against Ohio State and USC anyway.

I don't think UM should even be in the top 10. Maybe #15. Wisconsin, though they are Big11, would have beaten UM in 2006 (didn't play), and could beat them in 2007. Hell, Wisconsin may have beaten OSU if they'd played. May have.

[jonthetiger337]

UM did play and beat Wisconsin in the Big11 in 2006

[GTTiger]

I don't think UM should even be in the top 10. Maybe #15. Wisconsin, though they are Big11, would have beaten UM in 2006 (didn't play), and could beat them in 2007. Hell, Wisconsin may have beaten OSU if they'd played. May have.

Michigan beat Wisconsin in 2006. Wisconsin just didn't play OSU

[Cianne]

In fact Michigan handled Wisconsin fairly easily limiting them to only 12 yards of rushing, 54 to PJ Hill who had 1564 on the season.

[WallyGoat]

Michigan beat Wisconsin in 2006. Wisconsin just didn't play OSU

Oh yeah. What the hell was I thinking of? :blink: Well, Wisconsin would beat them in 2007.

[KillerNut]

What no NOTRE DAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Where's NOTRE DAME???? Someone please call the Pope on this conspiracy!! They should be #1. What an outrage. jk. LOL

[WallyGoat]

What no NOTRE DAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Where's NOTRE DAME???? Someone please call the Pope on this conspiracy!! They should be #1. What an outrage. jk. LOL

There isn't a number ranking high enough for ND. You know when you win the 1st prize, there is always a grand prize winner who gets something better than you? That's ND.

# Grand - ND
# 1 - USC
#2 - LSU
#3 - UF

[gatorunvrsty]

I'm definitely confused about Corso's picks. He's the only one who picked UF over OSU!

[KillerNut]

Corso, Herbstreit, and Howard are all going to Hell because they didn't put Notre Dame number one. How dare thee

[goallthewayua]

Pre-season mine would be

1.USC

2.Michigan

3. West Virginia

4. Florida

5. Texas A & M

[azamugg]

What no NOTRE DAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Where's NOTRE DAME???? Someone please call the Pope on this conspiracy!! They should be #1. What an outrage. jk. LOL

EXACTLY! at least some people got the message

[WallyGoat]

Pre-season mine would be

1.USC

2.Michigan

3. West Virginia

4. Florida

5. Texas A & M

ATM gets your approval? After a 3 loss Cal team spanked them 45-10? Granted ATM lost 3 regular season games by 6 points total, and beat Texas.

I'd say #10-#11 at best.

My top 6 -

1. USC

2. LSU

3. Florida

4. Oklahoma (A stretch, I know)

5. Wisconsin

6. Texas

[goallthewayua]

What yal, don't think ND will be good even though they lose McKnight, Quinn, Samardzija, and possibly Darrius Walker? You have no faith in the evil genius the call Charlie Weis.


Kidding obviously

[goallthewayua]

ATM gets your approval? After a 3 loss Cal team spanked them 45-10? Granted ATM lost 3 regular season games by 6 points total, and beat Texas.

I'd say #10-#11 at best.

My top 6 -

1. USC

2. LSU

3. Florida

4. Oklahoma (A stretch, I know)

5. Wisconsin

6. Texas

Not trying to start anything, but does everyone think that LSU will be dominate next season? They do have a very good schedule, but losing Russell, Bowe, Davis, Vincent, Landry, Daniels, possibly Highsmith, Doucet, Jackson, Dorsey, not to mention Fisher, who is really the guy who made their offense click isn't going to effect the Tigers. There is a good chance that LSU may be horrible next year.

[jonthetiger337]

There's a chance, but i think it will remain a chance and won't be a reality. i wouldn't put them number 2, but i wouldn't take them out of the top ten.

[GTTiger]

Not trying to start anything, but does everyone think that LSU will be dominate next season? They do have a very good schedule, but losing Russell, Bowe, Davis, Vincent, Landry, Daniels, possibly Highsmith, Doucet, Jackson, Dorsey, not to mention Fisher, who is really the guy who made their offense click isn't going to effect the Tigers. There is a good chance that LSU may be horrible next year.

The only real question mark position for LSU next year is thier secondary. They lose Bowe and Davis, but Doucet and LaFell should fill in nicely for them. Matt Flynn has plenty of game experience and will be able to fill in for Russell, while Kieland Williams will help to fill in the run game that was lacking this year.

I'm not sure that LSU's team will be as good as 2006, but thier schedule is much much friendlier and that should help them.

[GTTiger]

My top 6 -

1. USC

2. LSU

3. Florida

4. Oklahoma (A stretch, I know)

5. Wisconsin

6. Texas

My top 5:

1) USC
2) Florida
3) Michigan
4) LSU
5) Texas

[goallthewayua]

My top 5:

1) USC
2) Florida
3) Michigan
4) LSU
5) Texas

Texas loses their entire secondary. They'll be toast when they play Tech again.

[goallthewayua]

Hate to say it, but WVU will probably play for the NC next year. Nobody left to stop them in the Big Least.

[GTTiger]

Texas loses their entire secondary. They'll be toast when they play Tech again.

This might be true, or maybe they have very fast players that can step in and hold off enough that the offense can do the rest. I believe that the secondary is one of the easiest position to fill for a team with alot of speed.

[goallthewayua]

This might be true, or maybe they have very fast players that can step in and hold off enough that the offense can do the rest. I believe that the secondary is one of the easiest position to fill for a team with alot of speed.

Good point.

[gatorhater]

Apparently, their overhype of the (shrinking) Nuts didn't teach them how retarded they all are.

[azamugg]

Not trying to start anything, but does everyone think that LSU will be dominate next season? They do have a very good schedule, but losing Russell, Bowe, Davis, Vincent, Landry, Daniels, possibly Highsmith, Doucet, Jackson, Dorsey, not to mention Fisher, who is really the guy who made their offense click isn't going to effect the Tigers. There is a good chance that LSU may be horrible next year.

I agree...........they will be like a good horse w/a bad jockey next year, very unpredictable, good talent w/not much experience, new OC, new QB albeit a very talented one...............I wouldnt bet on'em

[GTTiger]

I agree...........they will be like a good horse w/a bad jockey next year, very unpredictable, good talent w/not much experience, new OC, new QB albeit a very talented one...............I wouldnt bet on'em

Yeah, It will be interesting to see how LSU performs. We still don't know who the new Offensive Coordinator is. I don't know if having a new OC will really effect LSU. Miles is an offensive minded coach and I never though Jimbo was too great. I'm just glad that no one stole Pelini. The QB issue will also be interesting, but I would take Matt Flynn with his experience over just about every other QB in the SEC. Brandon Cox is the only QB in the SEC that comes to mind with alot of experience.

[HOG02]

The only real question mark position for LSU next year is thier secondary.

Anybodys grandmother could play in the secondary for LSU with how strong their front 4 is.

[HOG02]

Yeah, It will be interesting to see how LSU performs. We still don't know who the new Offensive Coordinator is. I don't know if having a new OC will really effect LSU. Miles is an offensive minded coach and I never though Jimbo was too great. I'm just glad that no one stole Pelini. The QB issue will also be interesting, but I would take Matt Flynn with his experience over just about every other QB in the SEC. Brandon Cox is the only QB in the SEC that comes to mind with alot of experience.

I have no idea why people think Brandon Cox is so good. I think he makes good decisions, but I don't think he has a strong arm at all. All the passes I see him hit are on play action where defenses let the tight end or RB go free of coverage. Don't get me wrong, that's great playcalling, but I don't see him hitting recievers in tight coverage very often.

[Gator2753]

Hate to say it, but WVU will probably play for the NC next year. Nobody left to stop them in the Big Least.
So true! Our only hope will be for a high ranked SEC team to go undefeated. And thats tough as hell....

[LSUisLIFE611]

Anybodys grandmother could play in the secondary for LSU with how strong their front 4 is.
hahahahaha good point there sir

[TKE223]

They basically picked their winners of the major conferences....I say LSU, Texas, SoCal, WVU and PSU. Those are not my top 5, but winners of the conferences..ohh i forgot about the ACC, hahaha, VT.

[GeauxTo]

I have no idea why people think Brandon Cox is so good. I think he makes good decisions, but I don't think he has a strong arm at all.
My thoughts exactly. His quarterbacking along with significant losses all over the place, lead me to think that The Barn is on the downhill slope and sliding fast. Look for losses next year to LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia.

[BAMA NATE]

My thoughts exactly. His quarterbacking along with significant losses all over the place, lead me to think that The Barn is on the downhill slope and sliding fast. Look for losses next year to LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia.

Even after all the terribly homerish things you've said the last couple of years you've just redeemed yourself with that one. I think Brandon Cox is just one of those guys that will finish his career at Auburn, play a great game or two, and then graduate and never be heard from or of again. He's a fairly smart QB that you could win some games with but he's not a championship QB and not among the best in the SEC in my opinion. I'd hate to know this guy went undefeated against us though. This will be our best chance so far over the last five years. We'll get'em this time.

[GTTiger]

I have no idea why people think Brandon Cox is so good. I think he makes good decisions, but I don't think he has a strong arm at all. All the passes I see him hit are on play action where defenses let the tight end or RB go free of coverage. Don't get me wrong, that's great playcalling, but I don't see him hitting recievers in tight coverage very often.

I just meant that Brandon Cox is the only qb that I can think of with alot of experience. The SEC will be relatively young next year with Stafford, Mustain, Wilson, Tebow, Flynn/Perrilloux, etc.

[FutureBuckeye]

Mine would probably be:

1.) USC
2.) Wisconsin
3.) LSU
4.) Florida
5.) OSU (we probably have the easiest schedule in school history next year)

[shk999]

1 FLA....CUM has now proven he can win with ANYBODY's recruits. God only knows what he could do with a team he builds for his system.

2 LSU....CLM still has a couple of yrs with CNS recruits, Fisher will be replaced and forgotten about as well as Russell. LSU is on top of their game right now.

3 USC....2 words "Pete Carroll". The man knows how to win, plain and simple. JDB was no C Palmer or M Lienhart but this was just his first year. He will improve

4 WV.....I think CRR will be a "man on a mission" this year, which seems to be the case any year, but the diff is he will want to "prove his worth" to the admin and fans

5 ND.....For obvious reasons, I dont want to get sued by the ND Athletic department for slander and misrepresentation!

[DELTOR]

I just meant that Brandon Cox is the only qb that I can think of with alot of experience. The SEC will be relatively young next year with Stafford, Mustain, Wilson, Tebow, Flynn/Perrilloux, etc.
Mitchell will be a fifth year senior next year.

[GTTiger]

Mitchell will be a fifth year senior next year.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about Carolina's QB, that's why I didn't mention him.

[gatorunvrsty]

My thoughts exactly. His quarterbacking along with significant losses all over the place, lead me to think that The Barn is on the downhill slope and sliding fast. Look for losses next year to LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia.
Don't forget, they come to Gainesville next year. And UF loves redemption.:happy:

[gatorunvrsty]

1 FLA....CUM has now proven he can win with ANYBODY's recruits. God only knows what he could do with a team he builds for his system.

2 LSU....CLM still has a couple of yrs with CNS recruits, Fisher will be replaced and forgotten about as well as Russell. LSU is on top of their game right now.

3 USC....2 words "Pete Carroll". The man knows how to win, plain and simple. JDB was no C Palmer or M Lienhart but this was just his first year. He will improve

4 WV.....I think CRR will be a "man on a mission" this year, which seems to be the case any year, but the diff is he will want to "prove his worth" to the admin and fans

5 ND.....For obvious reasons, I dont want to get sued by the ND Athletic department for slander and misrepresentation!
They couldn't get you for misrepresentation. Slander, defamation of character, and willful infliction of emotional distress are sure things. :laugh:

[M2J]

Damn, I wish Auburn was up there. When they actually have expectations, they simply fold.

[shk999]

They couldn't get you for misrepresentation. Slander, defamation of character, and willful infliction of emotional distress are sure things. :laugh:

Thanks Gator, I have hired a good lawyer....... :laugh:

[HOG02]

I just meant that Brandon Cox is the only qb that I can think of with alot of experience. The SEC will be relatively young next year with Stafford, Mustain, Wilson, Tebow, Flynn/Perrilloux, etc.

I agree that he is seasoned. You could also say that McFadden is seasoned now too. I think he has a stronger arm than Cox too.

[gatorunvrsty]

Mark May on the ESPN Bud Hot Seat, " The Florida Gators have about a 70% chance of repeating as NC's next year.". :thumpsup:

[goallthewayua]

Mark May on the ESPN Bud Hot Seat, " The Florida Gators have about a 70% chance of repeating as NC's next year.". :thumpsup:

No offense, but I just don't see it happening with all of the key starters you lose. Don't get me wrong, you've got a hell of a class from last year and this year, but I just don't think you can repeat.

[GTTiger]

Mark May is an idiot. I think Florida will be a great team, but even the greatest teams in history don't have a 70% chance of winning a national title. He could have said a 20% chance and that would have been a great %.

[azamugg]

Even after all the terribly homerish things you've said the last couple of years you've just redeemed yourself with that one. I think Brandon Cox is just one of those guys that will finish his career at Auburn, play a great game or two, and then graduate and never be heard from or of again. He's a fairly smart QB that you could win some games with but he's not a championship QB and not among the best in the SEC in my opinion. I'd hate to know this guy went undefeated against us though. This will be our best chance so far over the last five years. We'll get'em this time.

objectively Auburn fans must agree with this post, rivalry aside Cox is similar but less than a Jay Barker, not very talented, smart, few mistakes but isnt gonna be able to save you when youre down in a big game................and this comes from someone (me) who disagrees w/my Tide brethren on the talent level of JPW

[azamugg]

Mark May on the ESPN Bud Hot Seat, " The Florida Gators have about a 70% chance of repeating as NC's next year.". :thumpsup:

oh these guys AFTER the game are friggin geniuses!

[gatorunvrsty]

Mark May is an idiot. I think Florida will be a great team, but even the greatest teams in history don't have a 70% chance of winning a national title. He could have said a 20% chance and that would have been a great %.
I don't put a lot of stock in what Mark May says, either. He downed UF all year. But I think what he's saying is the same as what you're saying. All teams have a 50% chance of winning the NC. Either they do or they don't. That's a 50-50 chance. The percentage goes up by what the team has accomplished lately. Like you said, a 20% chance is about right. You add the 20% to the 50% every team has, and you arrive at 70%. It's like rain predictions. There's always a 50-50 chance when conditions are right. Those chances go up as more favorable conditions present themselves. UF has the same 50-50 chance as every team in the nation, but they're chances go up because they just won it. :thumpsup:

[Cianne]

2 x 2 = 5 too.

[azamugg]

I don't put a lot of stock in what Mark May says, either. He downed UF all year. But I think what he's saying is the same as what you're saying. All teams have a 50% chance of winning the NC. Either they do or they don't. That's a 50-50 chance. The percentage goes up by what the team has accomplished lately. Like you said, a 20% chance is about right. You add the 20% to the 50% every team has, and you arrive at 70%. It's like rain predictions. There's always a 50-50 chance when conditions are right. Those chances go up as more favorable conditions present themselves. UF has the same 50-50 chance as every team in the nation, but they're chances go up because they just won it. :thumpsup:

all teams have a 50% chance of winning..................check your math friend:)

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

objectively Auburn fans must agree with this post, rivalry aside Cox is similar but less than a Jay Barker, not very talented, smart, few mistakes but isnt gonna be able to save you when youre down in a big game................and this comes from someone (me) who disagrees w/my Tide brethren on the talent level of JPW


Not many AU fans would disagree with that. Brandon is a good kid and has had some good games but he isn't a championship caliber QB. I hope Neil Caudle is once he has the playbook down, and Kodi Burns is being looked at as the future of AU football.

Barring some extreme talent showcased by Caudle in the spring, Brandon will be the starter. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Caudle start/play 3/4ths of the games where we play "cupcakes".

[MSUDAWG]

My top 5 would be:

1. Florida, until proven otherwise they should still be #1.
2 USC, the pac 10 will be weak again as usual
3. Arkansas, Nutt better pray he finishes this high with the amount of talent he has
or he may be looking for a new job in '08
4. Wisconsin, The badgers will dominate the weak 10.
5. Georgia, they are my darkhorse next year, and who I think has the best chance
in the east to knock off Florida. Stafford will have to do a lot of maturing in the
off season.

[gatorunvrsty]

all teams have a 50% chance of winning..................check your math friend:)
Of course they do. They either win it or they don't win it. That's a 50% chance.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Of course they do. They either win it or they don't win it. That's a 50% chance.
No, that is not correct. When talking probabilities (e.g., 50%), you have to look at how likely it is for a team to win. Before the season begins, Florida, nor any other individual team in the country, has a 50% chance of winning the NC next year. If you wanted to lay out how likely it is for each team in the country to win the National Title, the sum of all the probabilities would have to equate to 100%.

Take, for example, the following (which is similar)....You want to state how likely it would be for each team in the SEC to win the SEC next year. You would have to look at each team and the likelihood that it would win the SEC. The total from the probabilites by each team would have to equate to 100% (since their can only be one SEC Champion from the 12 teams in the SEC).

Florida 20%
LSU 18%
Georgia 10%
Tennessee 10%
Auburn 10%
Arkansas 10%
Alabama 8%
South Carolina 7%
Kentucky 4%
Vanderbilt 1%
Mississippi State 1%
Ole Miss 1%

Note that the probabilites for each team were estimates (made by me), but they total 100%. The probabilities by each team are debatable, but the total would still have to be 100%.

Now consider that the NC example includes 100+ teams competing for the NC at the beginning of the year. Some teams would have almost 0% chance of winning the NC (e.g., teams like Troy who, even if undefeated, would probably never get to play for the NC). Some of the strongest teams in the nation, like Florida, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, LSU, etc., would have a higher likelihood of winning the NC. However, the percentages would still have to equate to 100% when totaling the probabilites for all the teams in Division IA football.

[AUfan06]

Not many AU fans would disagree with that. Brandon is a good kid and has had some good games but he isn't a championship caliber QB. I hope Neil Caudle is once he has the playbook down, and Kodi Burns is being looked at as the future of AU football.

Barring some extreme talent showcased by Caudle in the spring, Brandon will be the starter. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see Caudle start/play 3/4ths of the games where we play "cupcakes".
Agreed. I have heard Cox sucks Cox so many times. not many people are confident in his ability to take a game over. I would not care if Caudle took over his spot if he proved over the summer that he could play.

[gatorunvrsty]

No, that is not correct. When talking probabilities (e.g., 50%), you have to look at how likely it is for a team to win. Before the season begins, Florida, nor any other individual team in the country, has a 50% chance of winning the NC next year. If you wanted to lay out how likely it is for each team in the country to win the National Title, the sum of all the probabilities would have to equate to 100%.

Take, for example, the following (which is similar)....You want to state how likely it would be for each team in the SEC to win the SEC next year. You would have to look at each team and the likelihood that it would win the SEC. The total from the probabilites by each team would have to equate to 100% (since their can only be one SEC Champion from the 12 teams in the SEC).

Florida 20%
LSU 18%
Georgia 10%
Tennessee 10%
Auburn 10%
Arkansas 10%
Alabama 8%
South Carolina 7%
Kentucky 4%
Vanderbilt 1%
Mississippi State 1%
Ole Miss 1%

Note that the probabilites for each team were estimates (made by me), but they total 100%. The probabilities by each team are debatable, but the total would still have to be 100%.

Now consider that the NC example includes 100+ teams competing for the NC at the beginning of the year. Some teams would have almost 0% chance of winning the NC (e.g., teams like Troy who, even if undefeated, would probably never get to play for the NC). Some of the strongest teams in the nation, like Florida, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, LSU, etc., would have a higher likelihood of winning the NC. However, the percentages would still have to equate to 100% when totaling the probabilites for all the teams in Division IA football.
That's the problem here. There's no way to absolutely calculate probabilities. My post was a sarcastic game with semantics. A play on words. Every team has a 50-50 chance of winning or losing. They're either going to win it or lose it. Get it? UF's chance would be better they would win the game because they just won it the year before. Understand what I'm saying? If a team is in the game, they can only win or lose. 50-50.

[AUFootball24]

My thoughts exactly. His quarterbacking along with significant losses all over the place, lead me to think that The Barn is on the downhill slope and sliding fast. Look for losses next year to LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, and Georgia.

Nobody think's he's a great QB, guys. Those thoughts were based on last year. This year he was hurt all season.

The question is which BC will show up next year.

Downhill slope and sliding fast....13-0, 9-3, 11-2, yeah, I can see it.

Keep dreamin', corndog! (PS- every team loses alot every year. Have you seen LSU's list this year? It's part of the game. I bet you said we were going downhill fast after 04 as well, when we lost caddy, ronnie, rosegreen, rogers, campbell, etc., or maybe last year, when we lost 3 1,000 yard recievers and the best Tackle in the SEC? It happens every year. This year is no different. Auburn has the players to reload, not rebuild.)

Will we be 11-2? No. Will we probably be 9-3 and bounce back stronger in 08? Yes. 'downhill slope and sliding fast' implies that Auburn is on the down as a program and has many years of struggling ahead. I'm not looking through corndog glasses like you, but I don't see that. Sorry.

[AUFootball24]

Damn, I wish Auburn was up there. When they actually have expectations, they simply fold.

What did bama do last time they were in the top 5? 3-8? What now?


Yes, 11-2 is folding. What does that make 6-7 or the aforementioned 3-8?



*sigh*

[AUFootball24]

Even after all the terribly homerish things you've said the last couple of years you've just redeemed yourself with that one. I think Brandon Cox is just one of those guys that will finish his career at Auburn, play a great game or two, and then graduate and never be heard from or of again. He's a fairly smart QB that you could win some games with but he's not a championship QB and not among the best in the SEC in my opinion. I'd hate to know this guy went undefeated against us though. This will be our best chance so far over the last five years. We'll get'em this time.


Dude, that analysis of Cox is spot on. Auburn fan's don' think anything differently.

And those of you who say we do? Well, you're wrong.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

That's the problem here. There's no way to absolutely calculate probabilities. My post was a sarcastic game with semantics. A play on words. Every team has a 50-50 chance of winning or losing. They're either going to win it or lose it. Get it? UF's chance would be better they would win the game because they just won it the year before. Understand what I'm saying? If a team is in the game, they can only win or lose. 50-50.
I understand what you're saying. You're covering your "you know what" from your original post. :whistle:

[gatorunvrsty]

I understand what you're saying. You're covering your "you know what" from your originial post. :whistle:
It developed that way after a few responses. Obviously, there are many teams who can never get into a position to play for it.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

It developed that way after a few responses. Obviously, there are many teams who can never get into a position to play for it.
And the bottom line......I agree that Florida should be one of the favorites to win the National Championship (again) next year.

[gatorunvrsty]

And the bottom line......I agree that Florida should be one of the favorites to win the National Championship (again) next year.
I appreciate the vote of confidence, but the jury's still out on our QB. Looks good, and got some playing time this year, but you know it's not the same when you're just taking over. We'll know more after a few games. On the SC front, I said in another thread I thought y'all were the scariest team in the East. I say that because I know first hand what CSS can do when molding a QB. And he's had some time with Mitchell now. Few seem to agree with me, but I know Spurrier, and I saw flashes of what could happen next year. I think several teams are going to be unpleasantly surprised, especially if their coaches take SC as lightly as some of these guys. :thumpsup:

[GatorNation]

Tebow will be a complete QB next season. And I think we may actually have bigger plays in the passing game---though we'll be more balanced in the run/pass ratio---because we'll have a much stronger running threat....both with the option and with a few talented RBs coming in this year (Rainey and Williams) that will give us more of a legit running game out of the backfield.

Tebow hasn't thrown the ball much this year (mainly because that was Leak's department), but he has a canon for an arm, a shorter throwing motion, he's accurate, and he's made every throw count with only a few misses.

I think it's our defense that will be most hurt by our losses.

[GeauxTo]

Downhill slope and sliding fast....I'm not looking through corndog glasses like you, but I don't see that. Sorry.The truth hurts, baby, the truth hurts; and in Alabama, the truth is spelled S-A-B-A-N.:laugh:



I think it's our defense that will be most hurt by our losses.That means our offense with the new-found running game and smarts of Matt Flynn will make your trip to Baton Rouge agonizing.:wink:

[AUFootball24]

The truth hurts, baby, the truth hurts; and in Alabama, the truth is spelled S-A-B-A-N.:laugh:



What does Saban have to do w/ auburn being on a 'downward slide'?? That's one game a year, of TWELVE. BTW, Tuberville is 3-2 against Saban while he was at LSU, with better talent, and not competing for recruits.

[shk999]

Tebow will be a complete QB next season. And I think we may actually have bigger plays in the passing game---though we'll be more balanced in the run/pass ratio---because we'll have a much stronger running threat....both with the option and with a few talented RBs coming in this year (Rainey and Williams) that will give us more of a legit running game out of the backfield.

Tebow hasn't thrown the ball much this year (mainly because that was Leak's department), but he has a canon for an arm, a shorter throwing motion, he's accurate, and he's made every throw count with only a few misses.

I think it's our defense that will be most hurt by our losses.

Was he more of a passer at NHS or more of a runner like now?

[Wizard of Orange]

Florida's offense will be better next year IMO, but not enough better to make up for the dropoff expected from their D. Look for GA to be back in the mix again. Assuming TN stays healthy they will be a force next year. SC = dangerous KY will likely have about the same type of team next year as they had in 2006. Vandy will still be Vandy


I like Bama's chances in the West for some reason. I kinda was leaning their way prior to the Shula-ousting and like 'em even more with Saban. I can't see LSU staying at the top , looks like a dropoff to me. Ark and AU will compete for the title in the West, I think. Ole Miss will fall in behind MSU in the W standings ( mainly because Ogeron is even worse than Croom)


And, BTW, GTTiger....Ainge will be back in Knoxville next year. You'd think he might be worth mentioning as you run down the list of returning SEC QBs. I guess since your Tigers didn't really play against him healthy, it was an easy oversight....But he's a pretty decent QB when he's not banged up.

[azamugg]

Tebow will be a complete QB next season. And I think we may actually have bigger plays in the passing game---though we'll be more balanced in the run/pass ratio---because we'll have a much stronger running threat....both with the option and with a few talented RBs coming in this year (Rainey and Williams) that will give us more of a legit running game out of the backfield.

Tebow hasn't thrown the ball much this year (mainly because that was Leak's department), but he has a canon for an arm, a shorter throwing motion, he's accurate, and he's made every throw count with only a few misses.

I think it's our defense that will be most hurt by our losses.

but GN, don't you think because of his style and the spread's philosophy that the odds/likelihood of Tebow getting hurt is strong? and if so who is his backup and is he worth anything?

[gatorunvrsty]

but GN, don't you think because of his style and the spread's philosophy that the odds/likelihood of Tebow getting hurt is strong? and if so who is his backup and is he worth anything?
How about this?
3 John Brantley
(Trinity Catholic)
Ocala, FL 6-2/180 12/20/2006
Florida
13 Cameron Newton
(Westlake HS)
Atlanta, GA 6-5.5/225/4.51 09/07/2006
Florida
JC Bryan Waggener
(Citrus)
Glendora, CA 6-4/226 05/19/2006
Florida
The numbers on the left are their National ranking. One 5* and two 4*. Feel better? :happy:

[azamugg]

How about this?
3 John Brantley
(Trinity Catholic)
Ocala, FL 6-2/180 12/20/2006
Florida
13 Cameron Newton
(Westlake HS)
Atlanta, GA 6-5.5/225/4.51 09/07/2006
Florida
JC Bryan Waggener
(Citrus)
Glendora, CA 6-4/226 05/19/2006
Florida
The numbers on the left are their National ranking. One 5* and two 4*. Feel better? :happy:

okay shitlick :) but which one of those do you prefer? the Newton dude has sone good size ..........and are these QBs spread QBs?

[gatorunvrsty]

okay shitlick :) but which one of those do you prefer? the Newton dude has sone good size ..........and are these QBs spread QBs?
Everybody seems to like Newton the best and think he has the most potential for success in the offense. Much like Tebow, he can trample people. Personally, I like Brantley. With all the roll-outs in this offense, he really doesn't HAVE to be a giant. We actually stole him from Texas. They had him wrapped up, and were bragging about having him. But, he's got UF roots, and about 3 weeks ago, de-committed from Texas and chose UF. Lots of stories about it on the recruiting sites. He's golden for sure. We'll see how it plays out with all that talent on the same team. Somebody'll redshirt I'm sure. :thumpsup:

[WDavE]

Come on fellas!

You know LSU is the only SEC school that can lose 13-14 players off their two deep chart and also lose two coaches (one being their long-time OC) and still not slope downhill.

Use your heads for goodness sakes!

(timeout)
uncontrollable laughter break right after eating lunch

[GTTiger]

I'm a believer that the hardest position to bring new people into is the offensive line. It always takes them time to gel together. That is the only reason that I think Auburn will struggle more than usual next year.