At least UAB knows how to hire a HC!

[ColonelKurtz]

Georgia's OC/OL Coach Neil Callaway will be announced as the new guy later today.

Hell, even LaTech knows how to hire better than bammer, Valdosta State's Chris Hatcher is said to have accepted a deal today as well.

HONKIFYOU'VETURNEDDOWNTHEBAMAJOB!

[azamugg]

I'll agree with you colonel, they did a good job hiring Mike Anderson, then did as equal of a good job hiring Mike Davis and were efficient in courting Jimbo and quickly moving to Neil

Im not sure if Im excited about Calloway though, he was always a wink link at Bama but we'll see...............Merry Christmas!

[Gator2753]

Georgia's OC/OL Coach Neil Callaway will be announced as the new guy later today.

Hell, even LaTech knows how to hire better than bammer, Valdosta State's Chris Hatcher is said to have accepted a deal today as well.

HONKIFYOU'VETURNEDDOWNTHEBAMAJOB!
Is Hatcher taking over the OC position at F$U? I posted a story of that possibly happening about a month ago.
This is bad for VSU! Hatcher pretty much was VSU football. (I went to VSU if you cant tell)
Oh well. :sad:

[Gator2753]

Here is what I got from VSU's website regarding Hatcher & the F$U offensive coordinator job. He sounds a bit suspicious to me what do yall think?
http://www.vstateblazers.com/football/pages/fbnews56.html

[gatorhater]

So, Mike Bobo will take over as OC, but will we hire another QB coach? With Richt and Bobo (2 of the finest IMO), I doubt it. We could probably stand to save some $$$ anyway [insert sarcasm]

[Bburton86]

Neil Callaway is gone!?!?!?!?!


Thank god!

Link?

[timNem]

The board that oks the hirings at UA are the same ones that ok them at UAB

[Hawknut5]

This is a good hire for this team. This team is on the rise, and I believe they could be like this years Rutgers team.

[gatorhater]

I'm not sold on Neil Callaway though. I know there are a variety of reasons that an offense is inefficient (especially in the SEC), but I think we should have been better over the last few years w/ all our offensive talent

[Bulldog Bry]

I'm not sold on Neil Callaway though. I know there are a variety of reasons that an offense is inefficient (especially in the SEC), but I think we should have been better over the last few years w/ all our offensive talent

Remember, all Neil did was coach the OL. He wasn't calling plays, so he was the OC in name only. I hate to see him go, but I can't imagine his shoes will be hard to fill.

[dcbama]

Hope Ole Neil didn't get another DUI

[CrimsonTide12xs]

The board that oks the hirings at UA are the same ones that ok them at UAB
Well, what the hell are they doing down in T-Town Tim? It's been kind of quiet on the ol' board about that (with good reason I'm sure). I know it's a big mess, I would just like to know what the next move is, or has Mal went into hiding?

[WallyGoat]

Well, what the hell are they doing down in T-Town Tim? It's been kind of quiet on the ol' board about that (with good reason I'm sure). I know it's a big mess, I would just like to know what the next move is, or has Mal went into hiding?

Alabama vs. UAB. UAB is a pressureless job. Not many folks are in contention for it. It's easier to make a hire.

Alabama is a pressure packed job, there are a lot of names of coaches to sift through to find the best one for the job. It's not so easy to make a hire, especially with the phantom stigma that comes with the job.

Spurrier, Saban, and Rich Rod made Bama look like a Japanese POW camp with the way the turned it down.

[timNem]

Well, what the hell are they doing down in T-Town Tim? It's been kind of quiet on the ol' board about that (with good reason I'm sure). I know it's a big mess, I would just like to know what the next move is, or has Mal went into hiding?Theres been a gag order put in place and most think that DR. Witt is running the show by himself since Mal may be incompetent. I look for Mal to be gone and hopefully a couple others as soon as this is over with.

On the UAB job, the BOT steps in to halt the hiring of Jimbo, alot of micr-managing going on.

[ColonelKurtz]

Read and absorb bammers:

mash here (http://web.theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=0b353ea46b28e4ca)

[timNem]

Read and absorb bammers:

mash here (http://web.theparisnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=0b353ea46b28e4ca)Are you trying to point out something that we already know?

[ColonelKurtz]

Are you trying to point out something that we already know?

Who's "we"?

You may recognize it, but go read your own team boards as there are many who don't.

And then you got the dcbama's of the world chiming in about somebody's character over an otherwise insignificant traffic offense, blowing the hypocrisy readings slap off the charts. How many members of the BOT have dirty laundry? How can those who are also impure stand in judgement of another?

Listen to the soon to be sued Finebaum or other Sports talk shows in the State and you'll hear it loud and clear. Based on what I've read and heard since Shula got sacked, few Tiders appear interested in salvaging the University's rep or good name as they believe the next HC will do it for them. Totally pathetic.

[timNem]

Who's "we"?

You may recognize it, but go read your own team boards as there are many who don't.

And then you got the dcbama's of the world chiming in about somebody's character over an otherwise insignificant traffic offense, blowing the hypocrisy readings slap off the charts. How many members of the BOT have dirty laundry? How can those who are also impure stand in judgement of another?

Listen to the soon to be sued Finebaum or other Sports talk shows in the State and you'll hear it loud and clear. Based on what I've read and heard since Shula got sacked, few Tiders appear interested in salvaging the University's rep or good name as they believe the next HC will do it for them. Totally pathetic.I understand and agree with what your saying but you are giving WAY too much credit to the intelligence of Finebaum and some uninformed posters on other boards such as AL.com and BOL. You may see one post out of 1000 on those boards that have any intelligence whatsoever. Finebaum may be very well be a smart guy but he just spouts venom everywhere for ratings.

[WallyGoat]

Who's "we"?

You may recognize it, but go read your own team boards as there are many who don't.

And then you got the dcbama's of the world chiming in about somebody's character over an otherwise insignificant traffic offense, blowing the hypocrisy readings slap off the charts. How many members of the BOT have dirty laundry? How can those who are also impure stand in judgement of another?

Listen to the soon to be sued Finebaum or other Sports talk shows in the State and you'll hear it loud and clear. Based on what I've read and heard since Shula got sacked, few Tiders appear interested in salvaging the University's rep or good name as they believe the next HC will do it for them. Totally pathetic.

I don't listen to Finebaum, namely because I don't live in Alabama or in an area where I can listen to him. So I know very little about his take on Alabama.

About the HC situation. I never expected CRR, CSS, or Coach Saban to come to T-Town. I thought the ADept would take the same approach as they did with Dennis Franchione. Hiring a coach who has won at smaller schools, and allowing him to prove his worth at Alabama. The search, so far, for a big named coach, has been embarrasing to say the least.

I have also never expected any coach at Alabama to be the "Next Bear". I've always hated the ridiculous expectations. Are there any active coaches in the nation, besides Joe Pa and Bobby Bowden, that can coach like Bryant? No. I doubt there ever will be. That's why I have never expected it at Alabama. I want a coach like Jim Grobe, for example, who is comfortable coaching on his own terms, to the best of his ability, not Paul William Bryant's.

The thing with CPB is that I don't think there has ever been a coach as good as him. That may sound vain, cocky, and otherwise, but it's also the same reason I never believed anyone should have to live up to him. I'm comfortable with 8 or 9 wins per season, and the occasional conference championship run at Alabama.

Most Bama fans would see that statement as ridiculous and almost blasphemous, non-Bama fans would see that statement as rational. I don't care either way, it's just how I feel.

As long as we beat Auburn, LSU, and UT at least every other year, I'm good. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to win every year, but that's the problem with a lot of Alabama fans. They want to win all the time, which isn't going to happen. Not in this day and age. I'd settle for being as good at LSU and UT are right now.

RTR!

[Dmldawg782]

Hope Calloway well, but I'm glad he's gone. Any names floating around for new OL coach?

[Bburton86]

Now it's official.

Sources: UAB lands Georgia coordinator Callaway
By Mark Schlabach
ESPN.com

UAB has hired Georgia offensive coordinator Neil Callaway as its football coach, several sources close to the situation confirmed Saturday night.

The school will announce Callaway's hiring at a news conference at 3 p.m. ET on Sunday. Callaway signed a five-year contract with UAB; financial terms weren't immediately available.

Callaway will coach Georgia's offensive line against Virginia Tech in the Dec. 30 Chick-Fil-A Bowl at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta.

Callaway, 51, played for legendary Alabama coach Paul "Bear" Bryant from 1974-77 and also worked as an assistant at Alabama and Auburn.

Callaway replaces Watson Brown, who resigned last week to become coach at Division I-AA Tennessee Tech. Brown, the brother of Texas football coach Mack Brown, had a 62-75 record in 12 seasons as UAB's coach. The Blazers finished 3-9, 2-6 in Conference USA this season.

The Blazers chose Callaway after interviewing South Carolina defensive coordinator Tyrone Nix and Mississippi State offensive coordinator Woody McCorvey. UAB scheduled an interview with LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher, but the meeting was cancelled because the school's board of trustees had concerns that Fisher would be too expensive to hire.

Mark Schlabach covers college football and men's college basketball for ESPN.com. You can contact him at schlabachma@yahoo.com.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2699971

[WallyGoat]

Is Callaway a good hire for UAB?

[ColonelKurtz]

Names I've read to replace NC:

Chris Scelfo, former HC of Tulane (was at UGA w/ Donnan)
Mac McWhorter of Texas (Gone from UGA a long time, improbable)
Art Kehoe of Ole Miss (One yr. removed from Miami, I'd be surprised)
Greg Adkins of UT (Only 2 yrs. as OLC, was at UGA w/ JD)
Jimmy Heggins of UK (formerly w/ FSU, good friends with Richt)

[azamugg]

I didnt realize they had interviewed Woody McCorvey, I wouldve chosen him or Nix frankly, over Calloway any day of the week!!

[JerryBeeds]

I didnt realize they had interviewed Woody McCorvey, I wouldve chosen him or Nix frankly, over Calloway any day of the week!!

Nix withdrew his name from consideration. Not sure why. Could've been a good move for him.

[ColonelKurtz]

I didnt realize they had interviewed Woody McCorvey, I wouldve chosen him or Nix frankly, over Calloway any day of the week!!

Hmmmm, it would appear that Bama should be considering McCorvey....Nix....SOMEBODY!!!! :unsure: :ohmy: :dry:

[azamugg]

Bama took a legitimate risk and stepped out and courted a couple of big name, would be hires and got bit, we all realize that now..........I believe now Bama is going to search/negotiate on the sly, privately, and wait until after the bowl games to make the announcement.........to save face this is the only option they have

[Imhotep]

Jimbo Fisher would be the Head Coach at UAB today if not for the UA board of trustees interfering in yet another coaching search. How could anybody in their right mind defend Paul Bryant Jr. or the Alabama board of trustees? The fact is this: Alabama is scared to death of UAB becoming a successful football program, that would make recruiting players in the state of Alabama even more difficult than it already is for them. What Alabama did to UAB would be like Florida interfering in FSU or Miami's coaching search. These people should in prison............

The UAB Blazers were all set to hire their No. 1 coaching choice, LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher, on Friday. Fisher, whose previous ties to the state include stints at Samford and Auburn, is a hot commodity these days. He was also up for the N.C. State job before the school opted for Boston College’s Tom O’Brien. Landing him would have given UAB’s second-rate football program a serious credibility boost.

However, the school’s board of trustees shot down the proposed $600,000 salary for Fisher -- an amount that is par for the course with other, competitive Conference USA schools -- under the auspices of “fiscal responsibility.” Mind you, that’s about the same salary UAB pays basketball coach Mike Davis, not to mention two local business leaders pledged to cover half the cost.

Now, before you go congratulating the board for taking a high-minded stand against escalating salaries, you need to know this:

UAB is governed by the same board as the University of Alabama -- which had no such reservations about buying out the remainder of Shula’s contract (a contract the school extended just last year) for $4 million and authorizing a reported six-year, $12 million offer to West Virginia’s Rich Rodriguez.

Like I said ... it’s just too easy.

While it’s true the Crimson Tide’s program is a far bigger source of revenue than UAB’s, I find it hard to believe that “fiscal responsibility” was the real reason behind nixing Fisher. If anything, hiring a hot coach with the potential to turn the program into a winner only increases the Blazers’ chances of becoming a cash cow. The truly irresponsible path is to not afford the program competitive resources and allow it to continue to mire in mediocrity. Of course, no right-minded trustee wants to see that happen to UAB.

Or would they?

Take a guess who the most influential trustee on the Alabama/UAB board is. It’s Paul Bryant Jr., president of Greene Group Inc. and ... well, you know the rest. If you’re Bryant, or any other board member who bleeds crimson and white, a competitive program at UAB is not in your best interests. A hot coach like Fisher has the ability to hemorrhage the mother ship by stealing away quality, in-state recruits who would have otherwise ended up in Tuscaloosa. And god forbid some wealthy Birmingham boosters, excited about the prospects of a good, hometown team, start directing some of their donations away from ‘Bama to UAB.

It’s the ultimate conflict of interest, folks. And it’s a part of life in Alabama.

In most parts of the country, the influence of boosters is not nearly as prevalent as it is in the South. Yes, they sign the checks -- but Alabama is one of the only remaining places where they’re also consulted on hirings and firings. Auburn trustee Bobby Lowder is notorious for such practices (he’s the one who secretly tried to replace Tommy Tuberville with Bobby Petrino a few years back).

In fact, Crimson Tide fans have their own boosters to thank for losing out on Rodriguez last week. From talking to several people with knowledge of what happened, it’s clear that Rodriguez was as good as gone from Morgantown -- until boosters got a little too loose-lipped about the monetary details. The whole coaching search has been an exercise in incompetence, with AD Mal Moore practically advertising each step, but the final straw came when West Virginia boosters took advantage of media leaks about ‘Bama’s $2-million-a-year offer to ready their own counter offer. My guess is, if those details didn’t come out when they did, Rodriguez would be coaching Alabama right now.

Instead, Moore is still out there grasping for new candidates, and I have to chuckle when I hear Nick Saban’s name still being mentioned. Of all coaches, Saban is the ultimate control-freak. He answered to almost no one at LSU, and he ultimately chose the Dolphins job over other NFL offers because he would have control over personnel decisions. Saban may well jump back to college at some point, but do you really think he’s going to go to a school where the wealthy son of a former coaching legend -- among others -- has a say in his fate?

If Alabama is the powerful program they claim to be, then why are the scared to let UAB hire one of the hottest young coaches in the country? Why is Paul Bryant Jr. meddling in UAB' coaching search? I guess we will find out when the NCAA and SACS steps in to clean up another mess created by the UA.....

Anybody remember Logan Young?


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[azamugg]

first of all I doubt that those are your words in the post, if they are'nt your words you are pretending they are and/or you are indeed unhealthily obsessed w/Alabama in all shapes and forms

secondly, while I'll agree that UA hasnt been equitable in its treatment of UAB, it is still presumptive to suggest that UA/Bryant, Jr are conspiring to "keep" UAB down, especially in regards to the potential hire of Fischer..........the press is having a "National Enquirer" type field day and if it sells papers, they write it.........Alabama is not struggling to hire a coach as much as the papers say because the media is printing pourous rumours and exacerbating the situation..........has Alabama probably fumbled this situation, of course, but not to the degree we've been led to believe

hotep, some exciting bowl games are on the horizon, Auburns basketball team just had a HUGE win last nite, yall had some notable suspensions as of late...............theres so much to talk about on your end.....why do you have to psychotically obsess over Bama?

[Imhotep]

This is what makes people sick about the UA BOT and the UAB situation.... These kinds of statements from Bama' message board...

"Poor UAB, they might as well shut that program down. At least that would be a quick death. From Jimbo Fisher to Calloway, wow."

And these people have the nerve to call people classless....

A study funded by the US government has concluded that a Bammer can be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in “fear and aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity”.
“This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes,” Clinging to old ideas, jumping to conlusions, imposing simplistic answers

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[Imhotep]

Alabama coaching search takes bizarre twist
Cook's Corner
Sunday, December 17, 2006
Ben Cook
LindysSports.com

The coaching search at the University of Alabama has taken a strange twist, one that could have far reaching effects on three and perhaps four Southeastern Conference schools and one Conference USA school.And it all comes down to a group of power mongers who have no business being involved at all. In fact, their involvement could even lead to trouble down the road for the University of Alabama itself in an entirely unexpected way.The group is the University of Alabama Board of Trustees, a group headed by Chancellor Malcolm Portera and driven by Paul Bryant Jr. There are others of course, but those are the two names most often associated with the Board.All along, members of the Board have hidden behind the excuse that Alabama athletic director Mal Moore and UA president Robert Witt and consultant Chuck Neinas were in charge of Alabama's coaching search. It is becoming increasingly apparent that they are not, that the Board of Trustees is pulling the strings behind one of the strangest coaching searches in the history of college football.

Everything came out in the open last week when the UAB Blazers of Conference USA were ready to hire LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher as their head coach. All that remained was ironing out the details. It was to be for $600,000 a year, most of which was going to be covered by some influential UAB supporters. But then the Board of Trustees of the University of Alabama system (which includes the University of Alabama, UAB and UAH) stepped in and said that UAB could not hire Fisher. They claimed it was because of financial considerations, but that excuse doesn't hold water since the bulk of Fisher's salary was going to be covered by boosters.

Apparently, the Board of Trustees realized UAB was about to hire the most coveted assistant coach in the country. They realized It also could mean that UAB might wind up with a better coach than Alabama, and the idea panicked the Board of Trustees. They decided that couldn't happen, so they stepped in and overstepped the boundaries of a Board. They took the hiring of UAB's coach right out of UAB's hands. Not only did they not allow UAB to hire Fisher, they then imposed their own handpicked candidate on UAB. They strongly suggested Neil Callaway, Georgia's offensive coordinator, was the acceptable choice for UAB.

The Board will deny the Callaway link, but after the Fisher debacle there is no other explanation for UAB turning to Callaway, a former Alabama player with no head coaching experience that no other school on the planet was looking to hire. Fisher had no head coaching experience either, but he has been coveted by schools before and will be again; Callaway has not. Fisher is thought to be the next Bob Stoops waiting to happen; Callaway is not.There is one other possible explanation. The Alabama job is still open and there are plenty in Tuscaloosa who believe Nick Saban is going to leave the Miami Dolphins after Miami's season ends. If Saban were to actually take the UA job, perhaps he would bring his old offensive coordinator from LSU with him, and that would be Jimbo Fisher. Then, in four of five years when Saban got the inevitable itch to move on, it would be an easy move to elevate Fisher to the head coaching job at Alabama, which could be what the UA Board of Trustees wants all along.That way they could achieve two goals--they could get one of the hottest coaches in the country at Alabama and simultaneously knock the pins out from under the UAB football program, making sure it continued to struggle along until perhaps just giving up the ghost and dropping football. That would delight the University of Alabama Board of Trustees.

Now, I've explained the scenario that includes three SEC schools -- Alabama, LSU and Georgia -- and one Conference USA school -- UAB. So where does the fourth SEC school come in? There is a school of thought that believes Arkansas ultimately could also be involved.

There has to be a reason the Nick Saban rumors continue to linger at Alabama. Most believe it is because Saban's agent, Jimmy Sexton, is the man pulling all these strings like a puppeteer. It is also believed that Sexton has another coach in his stable that could be a fallback position for Alabama if -- or when -- Saban says no. At that point, some believe Sexton will say, "Hey, here's an idea..." and pull Arkansas coach Houston Nutt out of his hip pocket for the Alabama job. Sexton accomplishes a couple of things with this scenario: he keeps Saban's name in the news and he rescues Nutt from a troubled situation in Fayetteville.

Oh, and finally, there is one other scenario that could come into play. If you will recall, Auburn faced accreditation problems from SACS because of misdeeds from some members of its Board of Trustees, namely meddling in Auburn's coaching situation. Although SACS has recently reaccredited all three of the schools in the Alabama system, that doesn't mean they can't get back involved. At the moment, SACS is watching with interest the shenanigans of the University of Alabama Board of Trustees in the Alabama--and apparently the UAB--coaching searches.

It could still work out well for everybody. Alabama might wind up with a good coach and Neil Callaway could turn out to be a good head coach for UAB, but the University of Alabama Board of Trustees is only concerned about the first half of that scenario.

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[BamaDude06]

So the BOT should get in rouble for saying "You don't make the money to pay that coach and we are not going to give it to you"

SACS is not watching the UA/UAB coaching searches. The guys that run a UAB fan site are jumping up and down saying SACS should get involved and the media is giving them some time.

[Imhotep]

So the BOT should get in rouble for saying "You don't make the money to pay that coach and we are not going to give it to you"

SACS is not watching the UA/UAB coaching searches. The guys that run a UAB fan site are jumping up and down saying SACS should get involved and the media is giving them some time.

If you will recall, Auburn almost lost it's accreditation after the Auburn board of trustees tried to pull off a coaching coup in 2003. Bobby Petrino would be the Head Coach at Auburn today if the board of trustees knew how to keep their mouths shut. I see nothing different with the way the Bammer board of trustees have conducted themselves throughout this entire coaching search. Why would SACS not look into the UA board of trustees? At least the Auburn board of trustees had sense enough to stay out of other Universities coaching decisions. The Bammer board of trustees basically told UAB who they were allowed to hire. Why would the UA tell UAB they could not hire Jimbo Fisher? Neil Callaway is a former Bammer player and will never pose a threat to the UA. Neil Callaway has never been considered head coaching material in his life.

very bizarre..........

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[azamugg]

If you will recall, Auburn almost lost it's accreditation after the Auburn board of trustees tried to pull off a coaching coup in 2003. Bobby Petrino would be the Head Coach at Auburn today if the board of trustees knew how to keep their mouths shut. I see nothing different with the way the Bammer board of trustees have conducted themselves throughout this entire coaching search. Why would SACS not look into the UA board of trustees? At least the Auburn board of trustees had sense enough to stay out of other Universities coaching decisions. The Bammer board of trustees basically told UAB who they were allowed to hire. Why would the UA tell UAB they could not hire Jimbo Fisher? Neil Callaway is a former Bammer player and will never pose a threat to the UA. Neil Callaway has never been considered head coaching material in his life.

very bizarre..........

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the point is, is why do you give a shit

[BamaDude06]

In Auburn's case you had a trustee telling the AD he was going to fire the coach (Tubbs) and then he would have to hire Lowder's guy (CBP). Lowder arranged everything the AD did. Here you have a BOT (which must approve all contracts) telling UAB "You don't have the money to pay for it and we are not going to give it to you. Find a guy that you can afford"

[Imhotep]

In Auburn's case you had a trustee telling the AD he was going to fire the coach (Tubbs) and then he would have to hire Lowder's guy (CBP). Lowder arranged everything the AD did. Here you have a BOT (which must approve all contracts) telling UAB "You don't have the money to pay for it and we are not going to give it to you. Find a guy that you can afford"

In Alabama' case, you have a board of trustees that could possibly effect three or four Southeastern Conference schools and one Conference USA school. Big difference....

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[BamaDude06]

In Alabama' case, you have a board of trustees that could possibly effect three or four Southeastern Conference schools and one Conference USA school. Big difference....


EVERY SINGLE coaching search will affect another school. If one of Auburn's coaches leaves and they hire a new one from another school they affect the other school.

[Imhotep]

EVERY SINGLE coaching search will affect another school. If one of Auburn's coaches leaves and they hire a new one from another school they affect the other school.

But the Auburn board of Trustees would never be allowed to tell another school who they could hire. The problem with what the UA board of trustees is they deliberately told UAB they could not hire Jimbo Fisher, and I know for a fact that many people, including Jimbo Fisher are not happy about it. Maybe this story will blow over, but I have a good feeling that this is only the beginning. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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[BamaDude06]

Auburn's BOT (Aka Bobby) told your AD:
1.) "He" (the AD) was going to fire Tubby
2.) "He" was going to hire CBP

Bama's BOT told UAB you don't have the money for a $600,000 contract and we are not going to give it to you, so we wil not approve his contract.

[Imhotep]

Auburn's BOT (Aka Bobby) told your AD:
1.) "He" (the AD) was going to fire Tubby
2.) "He" was going to hire CBP

Bama's BOT told UAB you don't have the money for a $600,000 contract and we are not going to give it to you, so we wil not approve his contract.

Not true, most of the 600,000 was going to be covered by influential UAB supporters.(Never knew they had any) until the UA board of trustees stepped in to kill the deal. Face it, the UA board of trustees are destroying the UA, not Mal Moore. I would hope most Bama fans would agree.


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[BamaDude06]

The people that say UAB was getting the money from somewhere else are the same that said Ric Rod to Bama was a "done deal" too.....

[jthomas666]

I'm not sold on Neil Callaway though. I know there are a variety of reasons that an offense is inefficient (especially in the SEC), but I think we should have been better over the last few years w/ all our offensive talentWe weren't overly thrilled with him when he was at Bama, either. He does OK with solid talent (like David Greene and that freak of nature Pope), but doesn't scheme well or protect offensive weaknesses.

A good OL coach, though.

[WallyGoat]

We weren't overly thrilled with him when he was at Bama, either. He does OK with solid talent (like David Greene and that freak of nature Pope), but doesn't scheme well or protect offensive weaknesses.

A good OL coach, though.

Welcome jthomas666.... :thumpsup:

[Imhotep]

And it begins....

Callaway benefited from who he knows
Monday, December 18, 2006

Say this for new UAB football coach Neil Callaway: If his teams do their job and play the game as well as he played the game to get the job, they'll win a lot more than they lose.

Callaway didn't play and coach at Alabama and coach at Auburn without making a lot of important friends in this state.

One of those friends is Pat Dye, who recruited him at Alabama, hired him at East Carolina, Wyoming and Auburn and went to bat for him at UAB.

Callaway acknowledged that he spoke to Dye about the UAB job. Callaway acknowledged that he spoke to a lot of people about the UAB job. He would not say, at the podium or off to the side, if one of those people was Paul Bryant Jr.

To hear the new coach and his new bosses Sunday, you would think none of them has ever spoken to an Alabama trustee in their lives.

After Callaway dodged the subject at the podium, interim AD Richard Margison jumped to his feet in protest.

"This process was organized (and) administered by me, by Lee Moon and Brian Mackin," Margison said. "None of us had discussions with trustees. None of us."

Wow. If Callaway's teams are that defensive, they'll be playing in the Pizza Bowl in no time.

Of course, you don't have to be told directly by Bryant or any other trustee to know exactly what they want. That's what third parties are for.

The troubling part of this process has little to do with Callaway. You can't blame a career assistant for wanting to be a head coach. You can't blame him for tapping his connections to land this job.

You can blame a university president and her search team if they allowed themselves to be put in a box in their search, if they allowed their choices to be limited, if they allowed themselves to be turned away from the man who looked like the best candidate.

What happened to Jimbo Fisher? Why did UAB schedule an interview with him and then cancel it? Why did the search team give him the impression he was the man UAB wanted and then walk away from him?

UAB President Carol Garrison, who also denied speaking to any trustees during the search, danced away from the Fisher question.

"We had good conversations with a number of different folks," she said, "and as we move forward, clearly, Neil Callaway's our guy."

OK. That was a non-answer. At least Margison tried to address the Fisher question. His key point: "The last thing you want to do is to start chasing something that might not be possible."

But your team did more than chase Fisher. Your team did an about-face on him. What went wrong?

"Finances were an issue," Margison said. "There's no question about that."

No question. UAB hired a coach whose base salary will be lower than the man he replaced. Watson Brown's base was $375,000. Callaway's is $360,000, with a lot more performance-based incentives than Brown had.

You have to be hungry to be a head coach to agree to those terms.

You have to give Callaway credit for going after the UAB job and getting it. And he does know football.

But in this case, what he knows may have been no more important than who he knows. Kevin Scarbinsky's column appears Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Write him at kscarbinsky@bhamnews.com.

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[AUChamps]

Bottom Line:

Lowder = Bryant.

If SACS nailed Auburn for Lowder's micromanaging, it wouldn't be unheard of for 'Bama to be nailed for Bryant's micromanaging.

Frankly I'd like to see both Lowder and Bryant Jr. go away. Auburn and Alabama would be better without them regardless of the money they throw at the schools.

[AUChamps]

But the Auburn board of Trustees would never be allowed to tell another school who they could hire. The problem with what the UA board of trustees is they deliberately told UAB they could not hire Jimbo Fisher, and I know for a fact that many people, including Jimbo Fisher are not happy about it. Maybe this story will blow over, but I have a good feeling that this is only the beginning. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

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You're starting to sound more intelligent, congrats. See, Auburn will never meddle in AUM's business the way Alabama has in UAB's business. If AUM wants to begin the climb from NAIA to D3 to D2 to D1AA to D1 over next 25-40 years, then so be it. UAB can be successful btw, just look at Troy(UAB's natural rival).

[jthomas666]

You're starting to sound more intelligent, congrats. See, Auburn will never meddle in AUM's business the way Alabama has in UAB's business. That's only because Auburn's too busy changing student grades. ;)

[Bulldog Bry]

That's only because Auburn's too busy changing student grades. ;)

SNAP!!!! (I was wondering when that would come up...NOW it's a bama/barn slugfest......)

[WarEagle73]

That's only because Auburn's too busy changing student grades. ;)

At least our student's can make it to class without getting arrested for DUI or having a little weed and stolen pistol in the car. :joke:

[AUChamps]

At least our student's can make it to class without getting arrested for DUI or having a little weed and stolen pistol in the car. :joke:
And we also don't treat our affiliate schools like exploited colonies. UAB needs to do like USA and go independent. USA and Troy are doing great in this Auburn/Alabama-dominated state and as I keep saying, Auburn treats AUM with dignity and will continue to do so. We're even allowing AUM students the ability to buy student football tickets for some of the creampuff games Auburn will be playing at home. It's about treating the sister school as a partner and if one day AUM chooses to go independent I would hope that Auburn wishes them well and lets them do what they want.

[AUChamps]

UAB needs to turn this into an All-out war against UA:

http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/uab/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=37678&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

^I and many others will be more then happy to see UA go down. I love the Iron Bowl but if we can take 'Bama down then that'd be even better.

[WarEagle73]

And we also don't treat our affiliate schools like exploited colonies. UAB needs to do like USA and go independent. USA and Troy are doing great in this Auburn/Alabama-dominated state and as I keep saying, Auburn treats AUM with dignity and will continue to do so. We're even allowing AUM students the ability to buy student football tickets for some of the creampuff games Auburn will be playing at home. It's about treating the sister school as a partner and if one day AUM chooses to go independent I would hope that Auburn wishes them well and lets them do what they want.

Well said.... Reps for u! :thumpsup:

[jthomas666]

We're even allowing AUM students the ability to buy student football tickets for some of the creampuff games Auburn will be playing at home. Good of you to throw them some table scraps. :laugh:

[AUChamps]

Good of you to throw them some table scraps. :laugh:
When's the last time UA ever treated UAB like the world-renowned school they are? I'm gonna be graduating from UAH but they'll never receive a penny from me so long as it's affiliated in any way shape or form with the UA System.

[azamugg]

I don't believe Alabama has been as fair handed w/UAB as they could have, with this hire and with other matters, but I don't believe in a damn conspiracy that UAB fans seem to think exists.............and let me make this point, IM A HUGE BLAZER FAN, go to most BBall home games, a couple of baseball and a few football games every year.....the press and everybody else has embellished on every situation where they thing the BOT has been involved w/UAB's matters just a little too much and a little too often

[WarEagle73]

I don't believe Alabama has been as fair handed w/UAB as they could have, with this hire and with other matters, but I don't believe in a damn conspiracy that UAB fans seem to think exists.............and let me make this point, IM A HUGE BLAZER FAN, go to most BBall home games, a couple of baseball and a few football games every year.....the press and everybody else has embellished on every situation where they thing the BOT has been involved w/UAB's matters just a little too much and a little too often

I agree. The BOT is giving UAB the shaft but there is no conspiracy. There just isn't enough intrest in UAB. I wish it were different. I pull for them myself. They need get away from Legion Field and build a small on campus stadium that will hold about 25,000 - 30,000. Also, stop losing games they should win!! Then they might start to get more folks into UAB football. I doubt this stadium thing will happen but it would be nice.

[BamaDude06]

And we also don't treat our affiliate schools like exploited colonies. UAB needs to do like USA and go independent. USA and Troy are doing great in this Auburn/Alabama-dominated state and as I keep saying, Auburn treats AUM with dignity and will continue to do so. We're even allowing AUM students the ability to buy student football tickets for some of the creampuff games Auburn will be playing at home. It's about treating the sister school as a partner and if one day AUM chooses to go independent I would hope that Auburn wishes them well and lets them do what they want.

That's called trying to put butts in the seat because they couldn't sell them in the first place. Same reason why they let people who fled the gulf coast into one of the games for free last year.

As fas as treating the school like the world class school it is, I'll say this. Currently, the University of Alabama wants to grow enrollment, build new dorms and improve current/build new academic buildings, and improve faculty salaries. How how they doing this? Not by asking the BOT for more money. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign asking alumni, companies, etc to donate to. With the recent athletic facilities improvements they raised over $120 million I believe from alumni, boosters, corporations, etc., not by going to the BOT. The BOT told UAB several years ago to make a profit or lose the atheletic program. They still didn't make a profit, but reduced their debts and the BOT was satisfied with that at the time.

If UA can get Alumni donations, why can't UAB? Considering the wages that those in the medical field tend to make, I would think they could get some money from their alumni. If they were to go Ind. from the BOT they would have to solocit funds, why can't they do it as part of the UA system? That's what got the last UAB president fired. She would ask the BOT for more funding for improvements. If they funding was given to them improvements were made, if they didn't then they sat there and did nothing instead of trying to raise money for it.

[azamugg]

That's called trying to put butts in the seat because they couldn't sell them in the first place. Same reason why they let people who fled the gulf coast into one of the games for free last year.

As fas as treating the school like the world class school it is, I'll say this. Currently, the University of Alabama wants to grow enrollment, build new dorms and improve current/build new academic buildings, and improve faculty salaries. How how they doing this? Not by asking the BOT for more money. They started a $500 million fundraising campaign asking alumni, companies, etc to donate to. With the recent athletic facilities improvements they raised over $120 million I believe from alumni, boosters, corporations, etc., not by going to the BOT. The BOT told UAB several years ago to make a profit or lose the atheletic program. They still didn't make a profit, but reduced their debts and the BOT was satisfied with that at the time.

If UA can get Alumni donations, why can't UAB? Considering the wages that those in the medical field tend to make, I would think they could get some money from their alumni. If they were to go Ind. from the BOT they would have to solocit funds, why can't they do it as part of the UA system? That's what got the last UAB president fired. She would ask the BOT for more funding for improvements. If they funding was given to them improvements were made, if they didn't then they sat there and did nothing instead of trying to raise money for it.

thats a fair post bamadude