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bamafan0001
12-15-2006, 11:45 AM
I just read Nutt's comments about D. Williams transfering, and the possibility of a couple others. What stood out to me was when he said "he fully believes Cleveland and Mustain are 100% commited to Arkansas". Excuse me, but didn't he already sign a LOI a year ago that said he was 100% commited to Arky?

I know college recruiting is a buisness and all, but you have to be kidding me, this is just getting a little out of hand.

Transfers in the SEC of late:
Josh Portis- Utah to Florida
Florida to Maryland
Brent Sheffa'-Tennessee to Ole Miss
Jevan Snead-Granted transfer from Texas, possibly to Ole Miss
Damien Williams- Arky to ??
Mustain and Ceveland- Who knows?

What I'm getting at I guess, is who can we attribute this phenomenon to?

A. Kids with huge egos who haven't taken a collegate snap feeling like they are entitled to something

B. Parents who think their kids walk on water

C. Collegate coaches who lie their ass off durring recruiting
or
D. Dirt bag collegate coaches who recruit kids that are already going to other schools, telling them they should consider transfering

Cianne
12-15-2006, 11:47 AM
Schaeffer didn't transfer. He was more or less "removed" from Tennessee and went to junior college. Also, why should a player be 100% bound to spend four years per the letter of intent when a college is only committed to award that same player a scholarship for one year.

WDavE
12-15-2006, 11:50 AM
A couple of players that I knew in the past that transferred from one school to another. It was all about trying to find playing time. Another big shock to the former players was the amount of off season stuff they had to endure at the bigger programs. Some recruits have no idea when coming in...

Snead for example is looking at Colt for the next three years

bamafan0001
12-15-2006, 12:00 PM
Schaeffer didn't transfer. He was more or less "removed" from Tennessee and went to junior college. Also, why should a player be 100% bound to spend four years per the letter of intent when a college is only committed to award that same player a scholarship for one year.
I thought he met with Fulmer and decided it would be best for him to leave, as my memory serves me, he was not actually kicked off the team.
As far as Snead...he decommited from florida because Tim Tebow commited, now he leaves Texas because Colt McCoy? I think he is the problem not an oversight of depth charts as a recruit.

bamafan0001
12-15-2006, 12:02 PM
Also, I don't think Universities actually give defacto scholarships on a one year basis, or you would see a lot of dead weight cut every year.

WDavE
12-15-2006, 12:09 PM
Scholarships are a year to year thing...

As to cutting dead weight it does happen on occasion but is a very bad public relations move when it does. High School coaches seem to take exception to it. You pay the price with them in the future.

CTT let about eight football players go at Auburn when he arrived. They were Tot's recruits. Spurrier didn't renew a few when he arrived at USC.

bamafan0001
12-15-2006, 12:17 PM
Scholarships are a year to year thing...

As to cutting dead weight it does happen on occasion but is a very bad public relations move when it does. High School coaches seem to take exception to it. You pay the price with them in the future.

CTT let about eight football players go at Auburn when he arrived. They were Tot's recruits. Spurrier didn't renew a few when he arrived at USC.

Granted that it is possible to release a player, but out of 100 scholarship players per team times 100 teams, it is obviously the exception not the rule.
Also while your facts are right on with Tubby and Spurrier releasing players, those were new administrations taking over, you really never see that, because like you said it's suicide for recruiting/PR.

WDavE
12-15-2006, 12:19 PM
Auburn just recently had a walk-on player get a scholarship for one year and the next he didn't have one. The player knew in advance that was going to happen.

Cianne
12-15-2006, 12:21 PM
Happens quite a bit with special teams players and others. I have a couple friends on the Ole Miss team who have had their scholarships yanked.

Wizard of Orange
12-15-2006, 12:40 PM
Schaeffer got hurt towards the end of his FR year. Got suspended from the team that Spring ( sat out spring training), subsequently, dropped from co-starter staus to 3rd string.

Saw the writing on the wall and, after talking with Fulmer, decided to "move on"...

bamafan0001
12-15-2006, 12:59 PM
Auburn just recently had a walk-on player get a scholarship for one year and the next he didn't have one. The player knew in advance that was going to happen.
I think that falls along the lines of a conditional scholarship to a kid that probably didn't qualify out of hs, there is no coach in the SEC that offers one year scholarships to blue chip recruits out of high school.

WDavE
12-15-2006, 01:37 PM
I think that falls along the lines of a conditional scholarship to a kid that probably didn't qualify out of hs, there is no coach in the SEC that offers one year scholarships to blue chip recruits out of high school.
The kid I was referring to was a soph. He got a scholarship his soph. year and didn't have one for his junior year. Thats the way the numbers worked out. We had a free one that year.

TaySC
12-15-2006, 10:41 PM
scholarships are definetly only a 1 year thing......

players need to stop ASSuming that they are guaranteed them for 4 years no matter how half-hearted they perform.

tecmsu06
12-16-2006, 11:12 AM
i couldn't care less about williams transferring.. his mommy didn't want him to go to arkansas in the first place (when he was leaning on UF) because she didn't like nutt. I guess he wasn't happy being the #2 receiver on the team as a freshman. .... i could care less about him leaving. mustain and cleveland are staying.

AuburnPawnTiger
12-16-2006, 11:34 AM
i couldn't care less about williams transferring.. his mommy didn't want him to go to arkansas in the first place (when he was leaning on UF) because she didn't like nutt. I guess he wasn't happy being the #2 receiver on the team as a freshman. .... i could care less about him leaving. mustain and cleveland are staying.

It would suck to be the #2 receiver on a 10 win team as a true frshman all the while attending a major university for free..... gosh that kid can never catch a break

scfan5338
12-16-2006, 01:04 PM
You can add Cade Thompson to that list. He's leaving USC and probably going to a Division I-AA team.

uscrules
12-16-2006, 02:28 PM
It would suck to be the #2 receiver on a 10 win team as a true frshman all the while attending a major university for free..... gosh that kid can never catch a break
I guess he wanted to be the leading reciever, HA, HA!