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LSUisLIFE611
12-13-2006, 09:08 PM
Associated Press
AUBURN, Ala. -- Auburn University President Ed Richardson said an internal investigation determined that a faculty member changed students' grades, including those of some athletes, during 2002-04.
Richardson said in a statement Wednesday that Auburn will work with the Office of the Provost to determine "the appropriate corrective steps" against the professor. He didn't identify the professor or provide any details on how many grades were changed.
He said the university would take "quick and decisive action" on the matter.
A university spokesman said Auburn could not release the professor's name because it is a personnel matter. The grade changes involved only a small number of students, and few of them were athletes, according to the spokesman.
The New York Times has reported that at least one grade change at Auburn involved a student-athlete who was able to maintain eligibility when his grade in a directed-reading course was changed from incomplete to an "A" in 2003.
The change was made without the professor's knowledge, the newspaper said.
Richardson said Wednesday the university has fixed the process that allowed the grade changes to be made. He said Auburn will supply the NCAA with information "related to any issue involving student-athletes."
"We are committed to an academic program that plays by the rules," Richardson said.
Last month Richardson said irregularities in Auburn University's independent studies program were limited to two professors and were the result of insufficient oversight and poor record-keeping.
That internal investigation by a committee of academic administrators came after the New York newspaper's report that a sociology professor was helping football players and other athletes stay eligible through one-on-one courses, often called "directed reading" that do not require time in a classroom.
Richardson said the investigation found the independent study problems were limited to that sociology professor, Thomas Petee, and another in adult education, James Witte.
Petee resigned as chairman of the sociology department and Witte stepped down as program chair of adult education.
The Times had reported that 18 members of the undefeated 2004 Auburn football team, including star running back Cadillac Williams, took a combined 97 hours of Petee's courses during their careers.
None of the grade changes in the latest probe involved football players, the spokesman said Wednesday.
AU Blaaaaaaaake
12-13-2006, 09:12 PM
Shouldn't this thread be titled "AU Professor in more trouble" ......
Cianne
12-13-2006, 09:15 PM
I would hope the guy is no longer a professor. The fact that the probe turned up no current players is good for the football team though assuming the probe is accurate. We all know that David Irons isn't the brightest guy so I hope that he's making his sociology grades.
BamaDude06
12-13-2006, 09:17 PM
Shouldn't this thread be titled "AU Professor in more trouble" ......
Not really....its the University's job to make sure it doesn't happen. Like in NCAA cases, the coaches don't take most of the punishment, the schools do , hence the "Lack of Instutional Control" or "Failure to Monitor" punishments.
AU Blaaaaaaaake
12-13-2006, 09:21 PM
I don't like how you guys are picking on Auburn and picking on our love for sociology. I think I'm going to create 20 threads asking SECTalk why everyone is obsessed with Auburn's sociology department and why you guys won't leave us alone. Then when I run out of things to say in my defense, I'll talk about our national championship and 2 heisman trophy winners. Maybe a dead coach or two.
Cianne
12-13-2006, 09:23 PM
Picking on? The sociology department has had problems. Everyone knows David Irons should be in remedial pre-school. These two combined can lead to questions. I even went out of my way to hope the dumb thug was making his grades.
AU Blaaaaaaaake
12-13-2006, 09:25 PM
Stop picking on Auburn players and our sociology before I make a thread about how picked on I feel and end up flaming you and your school, degrading the whole principle on which the original thread was created.
Cianne
12-13-2006, 09:33 PM
The thread was created to show the internal probe of the sociology department. Discussing the lackluster control over the department as well as the athletes that benefitted or may benefit from that lack of control is not at all picking as it does not deviate from the primary focus of the article.
AU Blaaaaaaaake
12-13-2006, 09:35 PM
I'm starting to feel more picked on. I think I'm going to dust off the ole history books and find some things AU did better than Ole Miss and show them to you. Maybe a picture of a plaque with our national championship on it. That'll teach ya.
Maybe a sarcasm detector as well.. god I hope you are just kidding Cianne and not honestly letting this go over your head.
BamaDude06
12-13-2006, 09:37 PM
I'm starting to feel more picked on. I think I'm going to dust off the ole history books and find some things AU did better than Ole Miss and show them to you. Maybe a picture of a plaque with our national championship on it. That'll teach ya.
Maybe a sarcasm detector as well.. god I hope you are just kidding Cianne and not honestly letting this go over your head.
What would be the point? They won their's 4 years after yall did. :laugh:
Cianne
12-13-2006, 09:37 PM
I think I'm going to dust off the ole history books and find some things AU did better than Ole Miss and show them to you. Maybe a picture of a plaque with our national championship on it. That'll teach ya.
Whew, I thought you were going to find something. Lemme show three to ya.
lacene
12-13-2006, 09:37 PM
just don't think that Auburn can take our sociology professor away from SC, with the lure of a big salary. Our sociology professor is committed to SC, and has no desire to move to Ala....uh, I mean Auburn, regardless of the esteemed history of your College of Sociology!
:angry:
Imhotep
12-13-2006, 09:40 PM
LOL--Most of the people posting this junk never attended college....
HARVARD SURVEY SHOWS NEW FACULTY RATE AU AMONG NATION’S BEST PLACES TO TEACH
AUBURN - In a Harvard University-based survey, Auburn University’s tenure-track junior faculty have rated AU as one of the nation’s best places to teach.
The Collaborative on Academic Careers in Higher Education at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education asked new faculty at 31 doctoral universities how they felt about their careers, colleagues and institutional support.
Tenure-track junior faculty typically have been at an institution for seven years or less. AU’s tenure-track junior faculty gave their institution especially high marks for collegiality, policy effectiveness, tenure expectations and clarity and the institutional environment for work and family. Their ratings placed Auburn among the top four institutions in each category.
In addition to the overall picture of satisfaction levels of tenure-track junior faculty, the survey developed detailed data on a variety of questions, examined differences in response by gender and race and differences between expectations and reality encountered by faculty at each institution.
Those responses were also compared to the responses from faculty at five other institutions: Clemson, Iowa State, Kansas State, Texas Tech and North Carolina State. On most survey items, Auburn’s rating was significantly higher than the average for these five peers.
AU Provost John Heilman said Auburn joined the higher education collaborative at Harvard to identify the needs of junior faculty. He noted that AU has raised faculty salaries to the regional average and has taken a number of initiatives, such as establishing the nationally prominent Biggio Center for the Enhancement of Teaching and Learning, to help new faculty improve their skills and stay on track toward tenure.
“We are committed to making sure that Auburn is a great academic environment for our faculty as well as our students,” said Heilman. “The COACHE survey shows us that Auburn is a national
leader in making that commitment a reality for tenure-track junior faculty.”
Heilman added that the positives will not lessen the university’s commitment to further improving conditions for junior faculty. “We plan to use the COACHE survey results to identify policies, practices and issues where we can further improve the working and teaching environment at Auburn.”
Researchers for COACHE conducted the survey between October 2005 and January 2006 with faculty hired before summer 2005 who were working toward tenure. The 67 percent response rate for Auburn faculty was significantly higher than the overall response rate of 58 percent. Drew Clark, executive director of institutional research and analysis at Auburn, said the response rates for AU and overall were very strong indicators that the survey produced an accurate reflection of junior faculty attitudes.
Auburn was the only institution in Alabama to participate in the COACHE survey. Among participating universities across the South besides Clemson and North Carolina State, the collaborative includes the University of North Carolina System, Duke, Memphis, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Tennessee and Texas Tech. Nationally, other major participants include Notre Dame, the California State University System and flagship universities in Washington, North Dakota, Arizona, Iowa, Kansas, Connecticut, Ohio, Minnesota and Michigan.
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BamaDude06
12-13-2006, 09:42 PM
Too bad surveys are too subjective to be taken as absolute truth. Take a psychology class. You'll learn about surveys there.
Imhotep
12-13-2006, 09:50 PM
Why was Auburn the only University in the state of Alabama to participate in Harvard's COACHE survey?
Pfft, never mind!!!
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gatorunvrsty
12-13-2006, 09:58 PM
Because they're shameless self-promoters. If they didn't offer information, nobody would ask them for any. And where do you get off calling yourselves a university?
Cianne
12-13-2006, 10:01 PM
And where do you get off calling yourselves a university?
Because it is an institution of higher learning that has been ordained by the state to be a university.
CrimsonTide12xs
12-13-2006, 10:10 PM
I'm starting to feel more picked on. I think I'm going to dust off the ole history books and find some things AU did better than Ole Miss and show them to you. Maybe a picture of a plaque with our national championship on it. That'll teach ya.
Maybe a sarcasm detector as well.. god I hope you are just kidding Cianne and not honestly letting this go over your head.
Did that plaque thing bother you that much? I mean come on it's just a plaque, you said those NC didn't even count 'cause they happened so long ago. I thought it would be ok considering AU is the absolute best school in every area, academ., football, baseball, hammer throw, synchronized swimming, basketball, badminton, croquet, kurleg, bobsledding, Bull riding, bocce, pole vault, 1978 mattell electronics hockey champions, paper football, speed skating, 4H/FFA, tiddly winks, tonk, cliff diving, surfing, karate, kung fu, kick boxing, wrestling, shot put, bowling, golf--put-putt and 18 hole, bass fishing, bill fishing, archery, ABC battle of the network stars, sprint car racing, texas chili cook off, memphis in may BBQ fest, is there anything I forgot that you guys are the best at or have won?
gatorunvrsty
12-13-2006, 10:11 PM
Clearly, there are some failures to recognize sarcasm. I know how colleges earn university status. I just don't know how Auburn did. Imhotep thinks most of the people posting replies haven't attended college. I disagree. I think most of the forum, like myself, have. I can assure him, if he's enrolled at Auburn, he most certainly hasn't.
BamaDude06
12-13-2006, 10:13 PM
Hey now....I was in 4-H from 6th grade til I graduated. Its funny because I went to a workshop, where one of topics was "How do we promote the farming aspect of 4-H to more people" when Jefferson County 4-H (where I was a member) was trying to convice people that 4-H is MUCH more than farming.
CrimsonTide12xs
12-13-2006, 10:21 PM
Hey now....I was in 4-H from 6th grade til I graduated. Its funny because I went to a workshop, where one of topics was "How do we promote the farming aspect of 4-H to more people" when Jefferson County 4-H (where I was a member) was trying to convice people that 4-H is MUCH more than farming.
No offense, nothing against 4H, we didn't have it at my school. I just thought it was fitting considering the thread. Jefferson County?, I 'm from ST.Clair.
BamaDude06
12-13-2006, 10:23 PM
No offense, nothing against 4H, we didn't have it at my school. I just thought it was fitting considering the thread. Jefferson County?, I 'm from ST.Clair.
I was one of two people at my high school. :laugh: Now we had alot in elementary school, but most quit after 6th grade.
WallyGoat
12-13-2006, 10:38 PM
I don't like how you guys are picking on Auburn and picking on our love for sociology. I think I'm going to create 20 threads asking SECTalk why everyone is obsessed with Auburn's sociology department and why you guys won't leave us alone. Then when I run out of things to say in my defense, I'll talk about our national championship and 2 heisman trophy winners. Maybe a dead coach or two.
I don't like how folks bash Alabama's attempt to find a new coach Blake, but you don't see me bitching about it. Turnabout is fair play. You bash Bama, we'll bash the Barn. BTW, my sarcasm detector is on high alert.
AU Blaaaaaaaake
12-13-2006, 10:52 PM
I don't like how folks bash Alabama's attempt to find a new coach Blake, but you don't see me bitching about it. Turnabout is fair play. You bash Bama, we'll bash the Barn. BTW, my sarcasm detector is on high alert.
The message I'm trying to convey is the Bama fans on this board (excluding the 2-3 rational ones) insist on crying about unfair treatment, then retaliate by flaming in the very "don't make fun of me" threads they create and take part in.
I mean come on, you guys can't even make a normal rational post and call us Aubies or a non-degrading nickname. Has to be "barners" and "The Barn". Yet you don't see a single thread on here from Auburn fans or anyone else asking for a change. Auburn isn't even known for its top ranking agriculture program anymore.. most of the students who come here on academic scholarships are here for our top ranked Engineering/Architecture/Veterinary programs.
I understand that some AU fans are making fun of the coaching debacle but so is every other program in the nation. The only poster who I feel has gone overboard with it is Imhotep aka Millenium Eagle. And if he's bothering you that bad, just hit the Ignore Poster button and you will never see him again.
WallyGoat
12-13-2006, 10:57 PM
The message I'm trying to convey is the Bama fans on this board (excluding the 2-3 rational ones) insist on crying about unfair treatment, then retaliate by flaming in the very "don't make fun of me" threads they create and take part in.
I mean come on, you guys can't even make a normal rational post and call us Aubies or a non-degrading nickname. Has to be "barners" and "The Barn". Yet you don't see a single thread on here from Auburn fans or anyone else asking for a change. Auburn isn't even known for its top ranking agriculture program anymore.. most of the students who come here on academic scholarships are here for our top ranked Engineering/Architecture/Veterinary programs.
I understand that some AU fans are making fun of the coaching debacle but so is every other program in the nation. The only poster who I feel has gone overboard with it is Imhotep aka Millenium Eagle. And if he's bothering you that bad, just hit the Ignore Poster button and you will never see him again.
I said my sarcasm detector was on.....I knew you were joking. BTW, I know Auburn has a fine academic program all around.
Imhotep isn't bothering me. He can stay around, I like messing with him. As for the "barner" and "the Barn" comments, it's no different than calling you guys Aubies. It's just a name. Does it bother you Blake?
CrimsonTide12xs
12-13-2006, 11:05 PM
The message I'm trying to convey is the Bama fans on this board (excluding the 2-3 rational ones) insist on crying about unfair treatment, then retaliate by flaming in the very "don't make fun of me" threads they create and take part in.
I mean come on, you guys can't even make a normal rational post and call us Aubies or a non-degrading nickname. Has to be "barners" and "The Barn". Yet you don't see a single thread on here from Auburn fans or anyone else asking for a change. Auburn isn't even known for its top ranking agriculture program anymore.. most of the students who come here on academic scholarships are here for our top ranked Engineering/Architecture/Veterinary programs.
I understand that some AU fans are making fun of the coaching debacle but so is every other program in the nation. The only poster who I feel has gone overboard with it is Imhotep aka Millenium Eagle. And if he's bothering you that bad, just hit the Ignore Poster button and you will never see him again.
It's like poking a dog with a stick... Blake I can take it, I just have fun with it. As I know you can. Now Hotep on the other hand, I don't know... I think he is for real. The plaque post was just a little sarcasm and the chickens, and cows plowin fields and so on-you know that has been an ongoing joke since AU changed it's name 40? some odd years ago.
AU Blaaaaaaaake
12-13-2006, 11:08 PM
Imhotep isn't bothering me. He can stay around, I like messing with him. As for the "barner" and "the Barn" comments, it's no different than calling you guys Aubies. It's just a name. Does it bother you Blake?Nah, but it might if my degree was in the agriculture program and I knew that theres a lot more to agriculture than barns. Ya know?
Which is exactly my point, find me a thread an AU fan posted that asks Bama/SEC people on this site to stop calling us All-Barn or barners. Their isn't one, because most of the Auburn posters on this board are mature enough to not take name-calling personally. I don't complain personally because I know I'm guilty of it as well (gaytors, corndogs, bamzo's, etc.), and I know that if I can dish out the trash talk I better be ready to take it.
Bama fans need to realize that the entire nation (literally, check any message forum of any major div.1 team) talks/jokes about the Bama coaching situation. Why? Because 30+ years ago Bama had a lot of success and their fanbase suddenly became the cockiest people in America. And for some reason, that fan base reproduced and told their children that it is Bama's god-given right to win football games and that they should let anyone who challenged that fact that they could go to hell and Roll Tide.
And unfortunately for Bama's current fanbase, the media/other NCAA football fans around the world (like elephants) never forgot.
WallyGoat
12-13-2006, 11:22 PM
Nah, but it might if my degree was in the agriculture program and I knew that theres a lot more to agriculture than barns. Ya know?
Which is exactly my point, find me a thread an AU fan posted that asks Bama/SEC people on this site to stop calling us All-Barn or barners. Their isn't one, because most of the Auburn posters on this board are mature enough to not take name-calling personally. I don't complain personally because I know I'm guilty of it as well (gaytors, corndogs, bamzo's, etc.), and I know that if I can dish out the trash talk I better be ready to take it.
Bama fans need to realize that the entire nation (literally, check any message forum of any major div.1 team) talks/jokes about the Bama coaching situation. Why? Because 30+ years ago Bama had a lot of success and their fanbase suddenly became the cockiest people in America. And for some reason, that fan base reproduced and told their children that it is Bama's god-given right to win football games and that they should let anyone who challenged that fact that they could go to hell and Roll Tide.
And unfortunately for Bama's current fanbase, the media/other NCAA football fans around the world (like elephants) never forgot.
Which Bama fans need to realize this? I already knew it. I could care less. Besides that, where did all this come from? I just asked you if being called a barner bothered you... :closedeye
I can't find a thread telling fans to stop calling you guys Barners, but I can find a post that complains about it. I'll give you a hint. It's in this thread. Another hint, it was posted by you. :laugh: jk
Bama fans =The cockiest people in America? Nah. There are far more vain people in this country than Bama Nation.
You grew up in Alabama, so it seems that all Alabama fans are cocky. I never felt that way about Alabama. For the past decade of my life, a little less than half my life, I have experience every era from the Dubose era until now. I don't have a lot to brag about.
Cianne
12-13-2006, 11:51 PM
Auburn isn't even known for its top ranking agriculture program anymore.. most of the students who come here on academic scholarships are here for our top ranked Engineering/Architecture/Veterinary programs.
Sure they are. I have high school friends who are going to be receiving degrees at Auburn. One in architecture, another with a dual major in chemical and some other kind of engineering (he's working for the TVA atm), and another in vet school. I also reserve the right to poke at Auburn all I want as my old college roommate holds the same rights against Ole Miss.
BamaMatt
12-14-2006, 07:23 AM
Hey now....I was in 4-H from 6th grade til I graduated.
You totally let me down. I thought this was going to be followed by a punch line about Auburn.
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