Schlabach Chat

[GatorNation]

Got this off the premium boards. Schlabach really defends the SEC well. Tough questions...mostly geared to Florida/OSU, but there are some good nuggets about the SEC vs. Big 10 battle that is all the rage these days.
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Welcome to The Show! On Monday, ESPN.com's college football reporter Mark Schlabach will stop by to take your questions on the college gridiron. Schlabach joined ESPN.com in July 2006 as a college football and basketball columnist. A graduate of the University of Georgia, Mark spent nine years at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution covering Georgia and the SEC, as well as the NFL and NASCAR. Before joining ESPN, Schlabach spent the last two years at the Washington Post covering college football and basketball, and boxing.

Send your questions now and join Schlabach in The Show at 3 p.m. ET on Monday.


Mark Schlabach: OK, here we go. I'm sure we've got plenty to talk about today.

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Bruce (Greensboro, NC): I would like for you to comment on something. Last night, I heard Lee Corso say one of the dumbest things I've heard in years. He said, and I quote, "Florida has an advantage against the Buckeyes because Ohio St. does NOT possess SEC speed at every position". Every year people disrespect Ohio St. with similar comments regarding their team speed and then after they take an L in a bowl game (ala Miami Fla 2002 & K. St. 2003) they come back and say, "we didn't realize OSU was THAT fast". Ummmm, do these teams not watch film of Ohio St. or something. Please explain this comment. I realize I am in the minority here but I foresee an extremely comfortable Buckeye W against UF


Mark Schlabach: I'd say Ted Ginn Jr. is pretty darn fast. Same for Wells and Pittman and those guys. I don't think Ohio State's speed is a concern. I'd love to see a 100-yard dash between Ginnn and Percy Harvin, though.

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Chad (Los Angeles, CA): Mark, I always hear that university presidents and ADs are the ones primarily opposed to a college football playoff. Why is it that they wouldn't want one?


Mark Schlabach: They say they don't want the season extended. Why are we waiting a month to play the bowl games that really matter? Could be playing them right now.

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pietro (G-Ville, FL): " Barring a miracle, Florida won't get to play for the national championship this season, even if the No. 4 Gators beat No. 8 Arkansas in Saturday night's SEC championship game in the Georgia Dome" looks like the miracle happened

Mark Schlabach: Yep, I didn't think UCLA had any shot at USC. I was wrong.

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Gil (Atlanta, GA): How come no one is talking about the Tressel & Lloyd comments before the Nov. 18th game. Both coaaches, when specifically asked, said they wanted THIS game (Nov. 18) to be the only one. There was to be "no rematch". All of the sudden I am getting flashbacks to Rocky I when Apollo Creed tells Rockey there "ain't gonna be no rematch" and Rocky says "I don't want one" and then low and behold Rocky II. We're now up to Rocky 6...

Mark Schlabach: Agreed. Everyone associated with that game said they didn't want a rematch -- until Michigan was left out.

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JMO Toronto: I am sick of hearing the argument give Florida a shot at OSU. Why don't people pick who they feel are the two best teams in the nation.?

Mark Schlabach: I did. I thought Florida was second-best and that's what I wrote. But I don't vote.

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David (Gainesville FL): Now that a conference championship game helped Florida will we see the Big Ten or other BCS conferences expanding and implementing championship games to avoid what happened to Michigan?

Mark Schlabach: They should. Florida proved it can help you get into the BCS title game. Conversely, it also can hurt you and knock you out of the game. I always believed each of the BCS conferences should play a championship game. It evens the playing field.

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Jim Tressel: Columbus, Ohio: I haven't played for a while will that hurt me on Jan 8. Or are my guys just simply better than the gators. I didn't vote so I can't complain about who I play. P.S. No coaches should vote, it makes grown men sound like they are running for homecoming queen

Mark Schlabach: Don't think the layoff will be much of a factor. But don't discount Florida. They're very, very talented and have been very tested this season. Could see a repeat of '02 Ohio State team. Nobody gave the Buckeyes a chance against Miami.

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Matt (Atlanta, GA): How bad Florida gets beat is directly proportional to how many mistakes Chris Leak makes, so how bad is it going to be?

Mark Schlabach: I really thought he was going to cost them the SEC championship game. He can't make mistakes against the Buckeyes. You know Troy Smith won't make many, if any.

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james (plantation, FL): Agree of Disagree. the real tragedy isn't that Florida is number two. the real tragedy occurred after Michigan lost to ohio state and remained # 2 in the BCS. how can that be justified?

Mark Schlabach: You said it. Not me.

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Daniel: (Searcy, Ar): IF Florida beats Ohio State, and I mean IF, will people stop doubting that the SEC is the toughest conference in the nation?

Mark Schlabach: Would probably go a long way in doing that. No doubt the SEC is the best conference in the country. It ended up stronger than I thought it would be.

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Chris (Bloomington, IN): Mark please dont cop out like everyone else and answer this questions, how do you feel about the Heisman Trophy going to a player who was let off the hook by only being suspended 2 games when he accepted gifts from a booster?

Mark Schlabach: He received his punishment from the NCAA, sat out two games and earned the starting job. Kids make mistake. Troy Smith made his share, but he's stayed out of trouble since.

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Jason (Columbus, OH): While I do think that Florida deserves to be in the NC game, I think it was because the voters didn't want a rematch. My problem with Mich getting left out is that if no one wanted the rematch, Mich should've been ranked 4th after the loss to OSU.... What do you think?

Mark Schlabach: I don't vote. I've never liked the polls. Still don't. I never thought there should be a rematch. Michigan had its chance and lost. They didn't win the Big 10. I know that's not a requirement in getting to the BCS title game, but I just feel you should win your league. Florida won the toughest league in the country and finished with the same record as the Wolverines.

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Dylan:(Columbia,SC):: Hey how do you think Florida's defense will match up against the Ohio State ofense?

Mark Schlabach: Derrick Harvey and Jarvis Moss have to pressure Troy Smith and keep him from running to the corner. Linebackers should be better with Brandon Siler and Earl Everett getting some time to heal. Safety Reggie Nelson is as good as any defensive player in the country. Cornerback Ryan Smith is fundamentally sound and plays the ball really well. Cornerback Reggie Lewis struggled against the Razorbacks Saturday night, but has been OK this year. Florida is very good on defense. They've got a better defense than offense.

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Mike (Dallas): Mark, here's what UM fans are missing. Remove any anti-rematch agendas, and UF still has more wins, more Top 25 wins, much tougher schedule and the WON the title in the best conference. Michigan doesn't belong in the conversation with Florida - where am I wrong?

Mark Schlabach: Michigan definitely deserved to be in the BCS title game discussion. I think it was probably a toss-up, in fact. Wolverines lost to Ohio State. We don't know what Florida is going to do. Maybe they won't give up 42 points to the Buckeyes. Maybe they can't score 39. But on paper, I believe Florida had a much better argument because the Gators played a tougher schedule and won their conference.

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[GatorNation]

Kel (Columbus, Ohio): Wondering what you thought of Carr's comments about Tressel not voting? What would you have done in his situation about picking a team he would play in the National Championship under the circumstances? Personally I don't think there is anything wrong in not voting because he was caught in a pickle.

Mark Schlabach: That was a tough one. I can see why Tressel didn't vote. If he chose Michigan, people would say he favored the Big 10 and wanted to play a team he already beat. If he chose Florida, Michigan fans would say he was afraid to play the Wolverines again. But he made a commitment and should have cast a ballot. I would have voted Duke No. 1 if I were him.

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Kellan (DC): Everybody keeps hating on the Florida offense, but it has gotten better and better the lst few weeks. Michigan made OSU's defense looke pretty pedestrian, and the Gators should have Deshawn Wynn back to go along with their excellent receivers and Harvin the X-factor. How do you see that matchup playing out?

Mark Schlabach: It all depends on Leak. Florida has a boatload of receivers and Harvin is as fast as Ohio State's Ginn. The Gators aren't as good up front, but Urban Meyer does a lot of things to get the ball out of Leak's hands pretty quickly. I think Florida can score some points.

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Rupert (NYC): Mark, I understand that voters/fans don't want a rematch, and that's fine (the obvious conflicts with the whole point of the BCS pitting 1 vs 2 notwithstanding). But here's the big question nobody will cop to: Florida vs. Michigan. You have to pick 1. Who's a better team. Who wins on a neutral field?

Mark Schlabach: Don't know. Both are good teams. Florida beat good teams (Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee). So did Michigan (Notre Dame, Penn State, Wisconsin). How do we know who would win? They haven't played each other. I just know Florida played a tougher schedule and had more quality wins.

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Tim (Leonardo, NJ): I agree with your assessment of Troy Smith vs Leak/Tebow (strong plus to OSU). But maybe the tandem of Antonio Pittman and Beanie Wells is an even bigger plus against the UF RBs. Your thoughts?

Mark Schlabach: I think the combination of those RBs and that OL, compared to Florida's young OL and Wynn would give the Buckeyes a decided advantage.

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Rick (Vienna VA): Which conference will have the better bowl record - Big 10 or SEC?

Mark Schlabach: Looking it over, I think the SEC has better matchups. I could see Tennessee, Auburn, Arkansas and LSU all winning. Alabama, Kentucky, South Carolina all have chances. Georgia is probably a tossup with Va. Tech because the Bulldogs are playing in Atlanta.

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Andrew (houston): Mark, I'm truly amazed at people like Herbstreit who say Michigan is the best #2 team simply because of a LOSS? When did people start evaluating the season based on losses instead of quality wins and championships?

Mark Schlabach: Michigan had a couple of good wins over Notre Dame and Wisconsin, but who did those teams beat this season?

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Jake, Dallas: Who do you see emerging as popular choices for the preseason top 5 assuming the season ended today?

Mark Schlabach: It depends on which guys come back. Top five, in no particular order

1. USC
2. West Virginia
3. Virginia Tech
4. LSU
5. Ohio State

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Justin (NY, NY): Come on, have the guts to take this question on: You said "I just know Florida played a tougher schedule and has more quality wins," after citing Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Penn State as the big wins that these teams had. It just happens that the bowls have matched up these 6 teams against each other. My question is, if Notre Dame, Wisconsin, and Penn State beat LSU, Arkansas, and Tennessee, will you have the guts to come out and admit that you were wrong about what you "know"?

Mark Schlabach: Yes, because I think LSU smokes Notre Dame (too much speed). Arkansas beats Wisconsin and Tennessee spanks Penn State for the same reason.

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Allen (Detroit): Mark, tell your question screeners to stop fielding you soft balls. How about responding to some questions that disagree with your opinion that the SEC is the best conference, despite them playing essentially NO ONE from out of conference for the nation to measure how good the conference is (e.g. SEC's best quality win was against Cal).

Mark Schlabach: Georgia beat Georgia Tech, ACC runner-up. Arkansas played Southern Cal. Auburn played Washington State. Florida played Southern Miss and Florida State (down, I know, but a traditional powerhouse the Gators play each season). Kentucky played Louisville. LSU played Arizona. Mississippi State played West Virginia. Ole Miss played Missouri. South Carolina played Clemson. Tennessee beat Cal. Vanderbilt played Michigan.

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Marc, Memphis: You've got to be kidding about the Trojans starting off as #1! They've looked very overrated/lackluster for 2/3 of their games and both of their losses were to unranked teams. When will everyone at ESPN get off the Trojan bandwagon and face reality??? This so-called SC dynasty is becoming more and more media-driven all the time.....

Mark Schlabach: I didn't say they were No. 1. I said they were top five, in no particular order.

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Robert (AA): Mark, I agree that the SEC has good matchups in the bowls, but that's because the SEC DECIDES WHO PLAYS IN WHICH BOWL! Why does no other conference get the privelage of setting their own matchups? This is completely unfair!

Mark Schlabach: Every conference has a pecking order for the bowl games its affilated with. ACC does it. Big 10 does it. Big 12 does it. Pac-10 does it.

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Cameron (Choctaw, OK): CMark I just looked at the way the coaches voted and im blown away. Every big 10 coach has OSU/Michigan 1 and 2 and Wisconsin 4. SEC coaches chose Florida 2 Mich 3 and LSU 4. One guy on here Schnellenberger (I think thats right) has LSU 15....Others have USC 4?? What are these guys thinking? Will they get rid of this poll because its seriously screwed up? And if they do, will they have a committee instead?

Mark Schlabach: I've always thought there was too much of a conflict in the poll, for the reasons you just stated.

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Chris (St. Pete, FL): As a Florida alum, I'm happy with the BCS result, but the system still stinks. Does the fact that one of the nation's premier programs is getting the shaft this year bring us any closer to the demise of the BCS?

Mark Schlabach: I think we're getting closer, but we've still got three more years of the current system.

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Chris, Ann Arbor, MI: Mark, What do you think about this: Vegas would make Michigan a 6 point favorite over Florida at a neutral site. Michigan is the flat out better football team. Care to comment Mr. SEC?

Mark Schlabach: I'm not Mr. SEC. How many points was Miami favored by when Ohio State beat them in the 2002 Orange Bowl? Care to comment Mr. Big 10?

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Cam (Seattle): Urban Crier kept repeating "Michigan had its chance and lost. Now it's our turn." I agree, the Gators should play Ohio State for the BCS championship in COLUMBUS, OHIO, in the cold, on a crappy field, in front of 100,000 Buckeye fans. What's fair is fair, right Urban?

Mark Schlabach: Yep, and then Lloyd Carr should take Michigan to Jordan-Hare Stadium in front of 92,000 screaming Southerners on a Saturday night and play Auburn on the road, a week after playing a brutally physical contest against LSU.

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Jimbo (New Orleans): Top five Heisman hopefuls next year.

Mark Schlabach:

1. Darren McFadden
2. Steve Slaton
3. Ray Rice
4. Pat White
5. Brian Brohm (if he returns)
I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.

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[GatorNation]

Vaughn (Turlock, CA): For everyone who thinks Mich should play Ohio St. for the National Championship I have just 1 question. What happens if Michigan beats Ohio St. 41-38?? WHOS NUMBER 1 THEN??

Mark Schlabach: Agree wholeheartedly. Then what, we have co-national champs?

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Pete, Detroit: Are you serious? Michigan would destroy Auburn and LSU at the same time. How good is Auburn? They've done nothing. And LSU? Umm didn't they lose to a crappy Auburn team?

Mark Schlabach: You obviously haven't watched LSU the last month. They've got more NFL prospects than any other team in the country. They might very well be the best team in the SEC right now. But they're not playing in the BCS title game -- because they didn't win the SEC!

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Joe (Washington, D.C.): Mark, how can you claim that "Michigan's best win is considered a 27-13 victory over Wisconsin on Sept. 23," when Michigan went into South Bend and beat a then-#2 ranked and undefeated Notre Dame team? A team's "body of work" should also factor-in the rankings as of a team's opponent when the game happens, not in retrospect.

Mark Schlabach: Because I honestly don't think Notre Dame is very good. And I was born and raised outside South Bend, Ind. Who have the Fighting Irish beaten the last two years?.

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Ben Fredericksburg VA: I just wanted to put an unbiased comment out here. I am a UVA fan, that being said, the SEC dominates the big ten top to bottom.

Mark Schlabach: From an ACC fan....

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Bruce (Greensboro, NC): Ok, enough is enough. I give the SEC Florida & LSU both very solid teams but Auburn is TERRIBLE. The worst 10-2 team in the history of sports. Michigan would beat them by 2 TD's AT Auburn.

Mark Schlabach: I didn't say Michigan wouldn't beat Auburn. I said don't discount having to play Alabama and LSU and Auburn in back-to-back-to-back weeks. That's a physically demanding stretch. .... Although it's not nearly as tough as playing Ball State and Indiana before playing Ohio State. See?

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Cesar, New Orleans: I want to know why are all of the media against the BCS and Florida going to the national title game? Florida won their conference, played a better schedule than Michigan, and beat more ranked opponents. What happened to Micigan happens every year in SEC, they knock each other out of the race for the title! If anyone is going to point the finger blaim the big 10 for not having 12 schools in their conference. The acc did so why can't they. I think the BCS got it right for a change.

Mark Schlabach: I agree.

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Nathan (Columbus): So if Florida and LSU were in the position of OSU and UM, you wouldn't want to see a rematch in the championship b/c LSU didn't win the SEC?

Mark Schlabach: No. I think SEC schools understand they have to win the SEC championship game to have a chance at the national title game. That's why you play a league championship. Maybe the Big 10 should get one, and there wouldn't be quite as much controversy.

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Roy (Columbia, MO): Mark...I agree wholeheartedly about LSU. If there was a playoff right now, they would be the #1 seed.

Mark Schlabach: They'd probably be No. 4, but they'd give Ohio State a heck of a game, I promise you that.

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Steve (Bangor, PA): The worst 10-2 team in the history of sports beat Florida AND LSU. That's gotta count for something.

Mark Schlabach: Auburn ain't the worst 10-2 team in the history of sports. Kenny Irons wasn't healthy all year because he got beat up so bad in the LSU game.

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Rich - Columbus, OH: I am an OSU student and while I think Ohio State and Michigan could keep up with any SEC team this season and Wisconsin could definately do some damange (compare them to like Tennessee), the other 8 teams in the Big 10, this year, could be beaten by just about any of the SEC mid to bottom dwellers...I mean, Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Minnesota...all of them had bad years and could lose to the likes of UK or Vanderbilt. That being said, I take OSU Mich and Wisconsin over the top three teams in any other conference this year. Rest of big ten = :-(

Mark Schlabach: Agree with most of your comments, but I'm still not sure about Wisconsin. They lost to Michigan and didn't have to play Ohio State. The Badgers played one ranked team the entire season (Michigan) and lost.

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John (NYC): Everyone in the entier SEC and every other conference down south are a bunch of babies. Come play sports up north in november with long practices every day in weather in the 40s (if you are lucky). Its much easier to play games in december when you have nice weather all year. One year lets have a bowl game in the big house and see how well the pretty southern boys do then.

Mark Schlabach: Come on, that's why everybody has indoor practice facilities.

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Luke (muncie, IN): Well, Michigan did play Notre Dame, Wisonsin, Penn St., Michigan St, and Iowa in a consecutive stretch. Do you want to talk about that?

Mark Schlabach: Notre Dame and Wisconsin are OK. Penn State can't score. Michigan State quit weeks ago. And Iowa was one of the biggest disappointments in the country. Not an easy stretch, by any means, though.

Mark Schlabach: Alright, I'm outta here. I'll be back for random chats during bowl season. Everyone enjoy the holidays.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Thanks for posting this GN, if people haven't read this they should.. lots of reasonable unbiased points. That chat was definitely Big 10 heavy on questions, but I like how he handled them.

[GatorHunter]

Great post, GN...Schlabach ruffled some feathers earlier in the season when he was "pro-Big East"...saying the Big East contenders (UofL, WVU and Rutgers) should be considered for the MNC Game if one finished with 1 loss.

[Grady]

A date of this chat post on ESPN would have helped - since it is in fact 7 months old when you dig this up and post it like it is news. Question : 1. Does Florida's annual 5-Loss Season extend itself yet again this season, and 2. Does the MNC 11 years ago and now again last season make Florida an Elite Football Program today ?

[GatorHunter]

1. Does Florida's annual 5-Loss Season extend itself yet again this season

The Gators have had 5 "5-loss Seasons" in the last 20 years...so, I fail to see how it can "extend itself again".

Does the MNC 11 years ago and now again last season make Florida an Elite Football Program today ?

Actually, UF won the 1996 National Championship and the 2006 National Championship...a difference of "10 years"...:dry:

:lol:...

[blues_cap]

A date of this chat post on ESPN would have helped - since it is in fact 7 months old when you dig this up and post it like it is news. Question : 1. Does Florida's annual 5-Loss Season extend itself yet again this season, and 2. Does the MNC 11 years ago and now again last season make Florida an Elite Football Program today ?

depends on one's definition of "elite". i would say 2 mnc's in 10 years would put them up there with the "elite" of college football teams. who else has dont this other than uf??? uscw??

im sure some uga fans would argue with uf's lack of tradition b/f the 90's, but is that criteria to leave them out of the elite of 2007 teams??

[GatorHunter]

depends on one's definition of "elite". i would say 2 mnc's in 10 years would put them up there with the "elite" of college football teams. who else has dont this other than uf??? uscw??

im sure some uga fans would argue with uf's lack of tradition b/f the 90's, but is that criteria to leave them out of the elite of 2007 teams??

Agreed...personally, I could care less if anyone considers UF "elite"...we won the SEC and National Championships.....and judging by our recruiting classes the last couple of years..."elite" players seem to want to be a part of it. I agree with bc...who's elite? USCw? They've won one National Championship over the past 10 years (LSU won it in '03).....come to think of it, UF's the only team that's won more than one over the last 10 years...right?:dry:

[Seppeh]

im sure some uga fans would argue with uf's lack of tradition b/f the 90's, but is that criteria to leave them out of the elite of 2007 teams??

Please. Grady is not a UGA fan. Don't bring us into this.

[GatorNation]

Agreed...personally, I could care less if anyone considers UF "elite"...we won the SEC and National Championships.....and judging by our recruiting classes the last couple of years..."elite" players seem to want to be a part of it. I agree with bc...who's elite? USCw? They've won one National Championship over the past 10 years (LSU won it in '03).....come to think of it, UF's the only team that's won more than one over the last 10 years...right?:dry:

OU would be considered elite; I'm guessing because they won a title (2000) and played for two others back-to-back ('03, '04).

So playing for a title and losing is worth more than playing in fewer title games but winning more? I guess the Bills would be the team of the 90s then.

I realize their tradition goes back a lot further than that...into the 80s dominance with Switzer and even before that, when they had those great teams with 47-game winning streaks and multiple titles.

How far back should we go when discussing "elite" status? Does what a program did in the 10s-60s mean anything? Should we discount dominance in years past simply because that may have been a different era of football?

Just asking...

[Seppeh]

OU would be considered elite; I'm guessing because they won a title (2000) and played for two others back-to-back ('03, '04).

FSU played in 3 straight didn't they? But I thought they lost them all. Mabye won one?

[GatorNation]

FSU played in 3 straight didn't they? But I thought they lost them all. Mabye won one?

I think so: beating VT ('98-'99), losing to Tennessee ('99-'00), and losing to OU ('00-'01).

The other title game was a win against Nebraska in '93.

If I'm remembering correctly...

[GatorHunter]

I think so: beating VT ('98-'99), losing to Tennessee ('99-'00), and losing to OU ('00-'01).

The other title game was a win against Nebraska in '93.

If I'm remembering correctly...


You're correct. Realistically, you probably can only go back 5 years or so...look at f$u...would you "currently" consider them an "elite team"? Remember, Wake beat 'em 30-0 at home last season. I think you would probably have to look at teams that have winning records, championships over the past 5 years...because if you go back "farther"...you get teams that aren't doing to well right now.

[Seppeh]

Remember, Wake beat 'em 30-0 at home last season.

Yeah tough stuff losing to the ACC champions. :glare:

[GatorHunter]

Yeah tough stuff losing to the ACC champions. :glare:

Losing to the "ACC Champs" is one thing...losing your homecoming 30-0 is another...:laugh:

[Seppeh]

Yes, losing your homecoming 30-0 to the ACC champions.

Why is that so terrible?

[GatorHunter]

Yes, losing your homecoming 30-0 to the ACC champions.

Why is that so terrible?

Look Seppeh, I know UGA had a "down" season...but you have to admit, losing 30-0 to "any" champions would really suck...especially on homecoming. At the time, WF wasn't currently the ACC Champs...maybe you should change your wording to "Eventual ACC Champions". Not to mention, it was the first time f$u had been "shut out" since being destroyed by Miami 30-0 in the first game of the 1988 season.

BTW, WTH do you care? Have we finally found our "closet nole fan" on the board?:lol: