New coach for Bama????? Maybe???

[gmcck4life]

I heard on ESPN radio that Bama was now looking at Mike Leach from Texas Tech. Any truth to this rumor???

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Who cares at this point. Listening to all these Bama coaching rumors is like watching paint dry. Texas Tech is the current day Bama of the SEC already. They can pass a lot but other than that, they don't do much. If Bama brings in a mediocre coach to fill the gap, they are just going to remain Auburn's punching bag and a 2nd/3rd tier SEC program.

[Cianne]

If Bama brings in a mediocre coach to fill the gap, they are just going to remain Auburn's punching bag and a 2nd/3rd tier SEC program.

Tuberville was mediocre coming out of Ole Miss.

[AUChamps]

I want to see Alabama keep the new tradition alive.

The tradition of liking MIKE, that is.

[AUChamps]

Tuberville was mediocre coming out of Ole Miss.
So was Cut a better replacement because he coached better, or because his being coach allowed for #18 to let his boy Eli play in Oxford?

[Cianne]

So was Cut a better replacement because he coached better, or because his being coach allowed for #18 to let his boy Eli play in Oxford?

That would be #2.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Tuberville was mediocre coming out of Ole Miss.Wait did I say Tuberville was a GREAT coach? And on that note, I think Tuberville is a good coach, definitely a risk taker, but hes not a great coach. Spurrier/Saban are great college coaches.

[Cianne]

Wait did I say Tuberville was a GREAT coach?

Actually you never mentioned anything about any great coach. You merely made said that Alabama will need to bring in more than a mediocre coach. I pointed out that Tuberville was a mediocre coach while at Ole Miss and this has led to five straight wins over Alabama.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Actually you never mentioned anything about any great coach. You merely made said that Alabama will need to bring in more than a mediocre coach. I pointed out that Tuberville was a mediocre coach while at Ole Miss and this has led to five straight wins over Alabama.And me saying UA would need a great coach is implying that Alabama is more than just a coaching change away from a good team. They have some talent, but it was said by players that Shula played favorites for a long time and there is bound to be some dissention in that team.

[GatorNation]

Ok, you're bama's AD.

Who are you targeting right now? Who's on your A-list at this point?

Curious as to everyone's thoughts....

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Bama's A-List - blank.. B-List - blank.. C-List - Paul Johnson, Jimbo, hire Kines as a temporary HC and get him a new staff for a couple years until a big name opens up.

[AUChamps]

2 Words: Paris, TX.

3 more words: No Napkins Allowed.

[Cianne]

And me saying UA would need a great coach is implying that Alabama is more than just a coaching change away from a good team.

You never said they would need a great coach until now, too. That being said, they don't need a great coach. What they need and what they want is also completely different. What they need is someone who will come in and right a ship that has been plagued by favoritsm and a lack of discipline. Then they can hire an offensive coordinator who isn't a drain on the offense like the Radar/Shula combo.

[GatorNation]

Bama's A-List - blank.. B-List - blank.. C-List - Paul Johnson, Jimbo, hire Kines as a temporary HC and get him a new staff for a couple years until a big name opens up.

Really? No A- or B-list candidates?

Off the top of my head, I'd look at...

1. Norm Chow, Titans' OC
....maybe he's interested. Don't know if you don't ask.

2. Sarkasian (sp?), OC from USC.
Solid recruiter, understands balanced offense, one of the top coordinators in the game right now.

3. Tedford, HC Cal
Maybe he feels he's set up well at Cal, but he's a good coach...worth a phone call.

[cocky4ever]

Ok, you're bama's AD.

Who are you targeting right now? Who's on your A-list at this point?

Curious as to everyone's thoughts....
I think they should go with Grobe. I mean, for God's sake the man won an ACC championship at WAKE FOREST. Its a tiny school in a medium sized city with high academic requirements. As if NC's talent pool getting raided by teams all over the country wasnt enough, they have to compete against NC St., UNC, even lose some to ECU(that should tell you something), and occasionally Duke...and after all that is done they have to find recruits smart enough to stay in school there. Dont get me wrong, WF is no Duke or Vandy, but their requirements are more strict than a lot of other schools.

Even though they had to take in less gifted athletes they have pulled at least one major upset against much better teams each year Grobe has been there and it only took him 5 years to take the Demon Deacons to the ACC title game and win it. The misdirection was utilized to offset the speed differences between his teams and others. I could only imagine what type of misdirection plays he could come up with if he had great talent.

If Bama overlooks him I think its just another blow dealt to their program by the "holier than thou" attitude of thier BOT. To say that you are above considering a coach based on the history of your program and the current school of targeted coach is the equivalent of just asking to miss out on a great candidate...

[GatorNation]

I think they should go with Grobe. I mean, for God's sake the man won an ACC championship at WAKE FOREST. Its a tiny school in a medium sized city with high academic requirements. As if NC's talent pool getting raided by teams all over the country wasnt enough, they have to compete against NC St., UNC, even lose some to ECU(that should tell you something), and occasionally Duke...and after all that is done they have to find recruits smart enough to stay in school there. Dont get me wrong, WF is no Duke or Vandy, but their requirements are more strict than a lot of other schools.

Even though they had to take in less gifted athletes they have pulled at least one major upset against much better teams each year Grobe has been there and it only took him 5 years to take the Demon Deacons to the ACC title game and win it. The misdirection was utilized to offset the speed differences between his teams and others. I could only imagine what type of misdirection plays he could come up with if he had great talent.

If Bama overlooks him I think its just another blow dealt to their program by the "holier than thou" attitude of thier BOT. To say that you are above considering a coach based on the history of your program and the current school of targeted coach is the equivalent of just asking to miss out on a great candidate...

Great point....maybe they think Grobe walked into it at just the right time?

No one can deny the ACC had a really down year in '06.

[TaySC]

My question is..... so many Bama fans still think they have a great shot at Saban.

What do the masses think?

Is Saban completely out of the realm of possibility or could RR turning them down end up being a good thing and Saban be hired on?


As far as a list goes... I think they should take a chance on a young up and coming coach and give him time to build for the future instead of trying to gain a big name coach that is likely up there in age and it would probably be a short-term fix anyway.

Seriously, as much as I am glad Lou Holtz came to USC, he was not the man to get us where we need to be.

He was a big name to get us the media attention and a few good (not great) seasons, but we all saw how temporary that fix was.

Hire someone that would stand a chance of being great and staying there for 10 to 15 years.

[GatorNation]

My question is..... so many Bama fans still think they have a great shot at Saban.

What do the masses think?

Is Saban completely out of the realm of possibility or could RR turning them down end up being a good thing and Saban be hired on?


As far as a list goes... I think they should take a chance on a young up and coming coach and give him time to build for the future instead of trying to gain a big name coach that is likely up there in age and it would probably be a short-term fix anyway.

Seriously, as much as I am glad Lou Holtz came to USC, he was not the man to get us where we need to be.

He was a big name to get us the media attention and a few good (not great) seasons, but we all saw how temporary that fix was.

Hire someone that would stand a chance of being great and staying there for 10 to 15 years.

I heard Saban turned down a 5mil/year offer even before RR was contacted. I'm not sure if he's still a candidate.

I like the idea of "up-and-coming," but do you really think bama nation is going to give someone like that enough time to turn it around...especially a young coach that may not have any ties to the program?

Maybe....

[Cianne]

2. Sarkasian (sp?), OC from USC.
Solid recruiter, understands balanced offense, one of the top coordinators in the game right now.

Since USC isn't here to correct you, Steve Sarkisian isn't the offensive coordinator for USC. He's actually the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach (basically the job that Orgeron had where Carroll grooms a coach to be a HC). Lane Kiffin, son of the Tampa Bay Bucs Monte Kiffin, is the OC for USC.

Ole Miss went after Sarkisian for OC originally when Orgeron was named head coach but Carroll wouldn't let him go.

[cocky4ever]

Great point....maybe they think Grobe walked into it at just the right time?

No one can deny the ACC had a really down year in '06.
Thats true...the ACC was certainly bad this year. However, coaching had nothing to do with WF's loss to chumpson. WF was in the 4th quarter in position to go up 20-3 on a fg and ended up with the score 17-10 and that was all the hope chumpson needed to get. The only other team they lost to this year was VT, and the Hokie's are about as unpredictable as it gets. They beat a very good Maryland team and STOMPED FSU 30-0...I think I remember someone saying that it was the first time since the 70's that FSU was shut out(or shut out at home)...something like that. The ACC was down but WF beat all of the other top teams in the conference in BC, Maryland, and GT.

Either way Bama has backed themselves into a corner. What does it say when other top notch coaches are turning down your vacancy and other low class schools like NC. St., UNC, and even Miami are quickly finding replacements?? Glad Im not responsible for the coaching search at Bama :unsure:

[GeauxTo]

[QUOTE=GatorNation]I heard Saban turned down a 5mil/year offer even before RR was contacted. I'm not sure if he's still a candidate.
QUOTE]

Bama thought they could buy Nick Saban. Not a bad idea — LSU did it in 1999. But not even Bear’s boys can go checkbook to checkbook with Miami Dolphins’ owner Wayne Huizenga.

[Cianne]

Miami finding a replacement wasn't that big a deal or a shocker. Shannon was or should have been the obvious replacement from the start.

[GatorNation]

Since USC isn't here to correct you, Steve Sarkisian isn't the offensive coordinator for USC. He's actually the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach (basically the job that Orgeron had where Carroll grooms a coach to be a HC). Lane Kiffin, son of the Tampa Bay Bucs Monte Kiffin, is the OC for USC.

Ole Miss went after Sarkisian for OC originally when Orgeron was named head coach but Carroll wouldn't let him go.

Didn't know that....I thought they were co-offensive coordinators. Thanks for the heads up.....

[bigsexxxy]

I think we, the Bama nation, need to quit being so obsessed with the Saban's/Spurrier's of the world and just hire a good hardnosed football coach who wants the job and can handle the pressure. Nick Saban isn't the only person in the world who can coach a football team.

Jeff Bowers from Southern Miss is a good coach who runs a very good program. I've never seen a USM game where they weren't prepared.

Why not give Norm Chow the job? Everybody who follows football knows that he is chomping at the bit for a head coaching position.

Mike Stoops is a good coach who would love to come here I think.

I would love to have Saban as our coach, but I really don't see him leaving the Dolphins.

[Cianne]

Didn't know that....I thought they were co-offensive coordinators. Thanks for the heads up.....

They have a partnership thing going on, yea, but Kiffin makes the call.

[ColonelKurtz]

Saw somewhere that Navy had raised Johnson's pay by $500,000/yr, don't know if that makes a difference or not.

Just read that Dennis Erickson has agreed to be Arizona State's new guy. Now 59, Erickson just finished his first season, a 4-8 deal, at Idaho, but most recognize his name for his previous achievements. If he can assemble a good staff right off the bat, his access to talent is only a bit further away than when he was in Miami.

I figured Chow for that job myself, he's a West Coast guy. Chow is about Erickson's age, so his window is closing as well. But I'd take a shot at him.

Art Briles, the Houston Head Coach won the CUSA Championship in his second season. Just turned 52, Briles entire Coaching career has been in Texas, plus he played for the Cougars at WR. But he is an intriguing name to consider imo.

I think Alabama is really wanting an established guy this go around, probably more so now. But among the rising stars of younger HC's, which one could resonate best with Bama?

Tulsa's Steve Kragthorpe went 8-4 in CUSA and is noted for his Offensive creativity.

Jeff Tedford of Cal won a share of the Pac10 title this year. Yea, his boys got monkey stomped by the Vols, but further evidence indicates that the Bear's poor performance in that first game was its wake up call. Consider, he's led Cal to 4 straight Bowls where prior to, 4 Bowls in 22 seasons.

I was laughed at for suggesting Steve Sarkisian on another site since he lacks HC experience and glad to see Cianne was up to speed on this very bright and rising star to the profession. He may still need a few seasons to stabilize him however as he's moved around too much in his first few seasons. But with Chow as a Mentor and Carroll as a Teacher, this guy genes are very good.

Can't think of any other Collegiate guys, so somebody else can research the NFL for candidates, but Shula came from there so I'm leaning more to a current College guy.













:excl:

[TaySC]

Does Bama not have any grad assistants or current assistant coaches that are young and ambitious enough to step up?

Heck, if they can't get anyone else, take a chance on Charlie Strong. I am not sure he is head coaching material, but he is surely worth a shot and would bring a lot of advantages to the table.

[TigerFanatic]

Does Bama not have any grad assistants or current assistant coaches that are young and ambitious enough to step up?

Heck, if they can't get anyone else, take a chance on Charlie Strong. I am not sure he is head coaching material, but he is surely worth a shot and would bring a lot of advantages to the table.Bama doesn't want a grad assistant or assistant coach... they want someone experienced and proven. thats their problem

[Cianne]

Does Bama not have any grad assistants or current assistant coaches that are young and ambitious enough to step up?


Andrew Zow was young and ambitious while Hoover got the crap kicked out of them in the Alabama 6A Championship game.

[shk999]

Does Bama not have any grad assistants or current assistant coaches that are young and ambitious enough to step up?

Heck, if they can't get anyone else, take a chance on Charlie Strong. I am not sure he is head coaching material, but he is surely worth a shot and would bring a lot of advantages to the table.

First time for everything. This may be the only time ever that I totally agree with Tay. Charlie Strong is possibly the best DC in college football. Ask Mark Richt. The BCA would be dancing in the streets. He is no stranger to SEC football. Only problem is that Mal has already promised to deliver a "supercoach" and anything less he knows will probally be the end of the road as AD.

[AUChamps]

First time for everything. This may be the only time ever that I totally agree with Tay. Charlie Strong is possibly the best DC in college football. Ask Mark Richt. The BCA would be dancing in the streets. He is no stranger to SEC football. Only problem is that Mal has already promised to deliver a "supercoach" and anything less he knows will probally be the end of the road as AD.
Mal's driven off the road and is dead in the water as it is.

At this point, Malcolm Fortura(Chancellor of the UA Systems) is also a powerful figure in all this, but he's not one of Bear's boys.

No, he's one of Ray Perkins's best friends.

[timNem]

Mal's driven off the road and is dead in the water as it is.

At this point, Malcolm Fortura(Chancellor of the UA Systems) is also a powerful figure in all this, but he's not one of Bear's boys.

No, he's one of Ray Perkins's best friends.Malcolm Portera

[WallyGoat]

I heard on ESPN radio that Bama was now looking at Mike Leach from Texas Tech. Any truth to this rumor???

Actually, I had heard his named mentioned after CRR turned down the Bama job. His name was mentioned in the Miami coaching search, but never Bama, until now.

Honestly, I would love to see someone with that kind of offensive mind come to Bama. Especially since Bama's isn't so hot (except for Wilson who has 2500+ passing yards on the season, DJ Hall, Andre Smith, JImmy Johns and KB).

[UKat]

I think we, the Bama nation, need to quit being so obsessed with the Saban's/Spurrier's of the world and just hire a good hardnosed football coach who wants the job and can handle the pressure. Nick Saban isn't the only person in the world who can coach a football team.

Jeff Bowers from Southern Miss is a good coach who runs a very good program. I've never seen a USM game where they weren't prepared.

Why not give Norm Chow the job? Everybody who follows football knows that he is chomping at the bit for a head coaching position.

Mike Stoops is a good coach who would love to come here I think.

I would love to have Saban as our coach, but I really don't see him leaving the Dolphins.
You my tusked friend have made the most sensible statement of any I've read over this subject to date. I agree with you.......my take is with Bama's tradition in football they dont have to have a "Bright Lights-Big Name" coach to land quality recruits and get back on the winning path. As you said a good hardnosed fundamentals football coach with character is who I feel y'all need.
Yes I'm a UK fan but I also tend to be a Tide FB fan when UK isnt playing.
Good luck with the search.

[WallyGoat]

Bigsexxy is right about Jeff Bowers and So. Miss. I wouldn't mind seeing him, Mike Leach or Steve Kragthorpe come to Alabama.

[shanksta13]

My list:

First, I would go for Greg Schiano. He seems to have set up a pretty good defense at Rutgers, imagine what he could do with Bama.

Second, I doubt Schiano would come, so I would hire Kines as my coach. Kines has been great through the years, and knows how to get things done at Bama. His defenses have been great over the past few years and he already has the advantage of knowing the Bama player, facilities, etc.

Third, Mike Price. I think he would bring the kind of offense that Bama always lacks. Doubt they could get him, but it would be worth a try.

Fourth: By this point I'm pretty pissed off that I can't find anyone, so I'm just gonna hire Dumbo the Elephant from Disney World. It'll save me money (won't need a mascot) and he can be the "face" of the program.

[WallyGoat]

My list:

First, I would go for Greg Schiano. He seems to have set up a pretty good defense at Rutgers, imagine what he could do with Bama.

Second, I doubt Schiano would come, so I would hire Kines as my coach. Kines has been great through the years, and knows how to get things done at Bama. His defenses have been great over the past few years and he already has the advantage of knowing the Bama player, facilities, etc.

Third, Mike Price. I think he would bring the kind of offense that Bama always lacks. Doubt they could get him, but it would be worth a try.

Fourth: By this point I'm pretty pissed off that I can't find anyone, so I'm just gonna hire Dumbo the Elephant from Disney World. It'll save me money (won't need a mascot) and he can be the "face" of the program.

Schiano just got coach of the year by leading Rutgers to a great season. The missed out on the BCS by one game. I doubt he goes to Bama or anywhere else.

Mike Price wore out his welcome. I don't think anyone in Alabama wants him back.

Dumbo has been quoted as saying, "I am happy here in Disney World, this is where I grew up. This is where I am staying. I don't have any intentions of coming to Alabama. My cousin Al and I aren't on the best of terms. It's best we remain apart and stay in our respective area's of interests. Besides, I'm a cartoon. I know nothing about college football."

:laugh:

[shanksta13]

Schiano just got coach of the year by leading Rutgers to a great season. The missed out on the BCS by one game. I doubt he goes to Bama or anywhere else.

Mike Price wore out his welcome. I don't think anyone in Alabama wants him back.

Dumbo has been quoted as saying, "I am happy here in Disney World, this is where I grew up. This is where I am staying. I don't have any intentions of coming to Alabama. My cousin Al and I aren't on the best of terms. It's best we remain apart and stay in our respective area's of interests. Besides, I'm a cartoon. I know nothing about college football."

:laugh:

I agree... I guess I'm just as fresh out of ideas as any Bammer... :whistle:

[WallyGoat]

I agree... I guess I'm just as fresh out of ideas as any Bammer... :whistle:

I have a few....

Coaching Prospects (http://www.sectalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=14168)

With the exception of Schiano...the others could be likely candidates. Jeff Bowers of So. Miss would also be a great hire at Alabama.

[palmettocock]

Andrew Zow was young and ambitious while Hoover got the crap kicked out of them in the Alabama 6A Championship game.

I know Hoover football because of the show Two-A-Days, but who is Andrew Zow?

[WallyGoat]

I know Hoover football because of the show Two-A-Days, but who is Andrew Zow?

Bama's QB under Dubose. He was one of the few black QB's at Bama.

Here is a list of black QB's at Alabama. Sorry to sidetrack the thread....

Alabama Walter Lewis 1980-1983 First Black QB at Alabama, USFL - Memphis, Spent time w /NE Patriots

Alabama Freddie Millons 1998-2002 Primary Position was WR

Alabama David Palmer 1991-1993 Primary Position was WR, Finished 3rd in 1993 Heisman Balloting as a Jr.

Alabama Vince Sutton 1984-87-88

Alabama Danny Woodson 1990-91

Alabama Andrew Zow 1998-2002

[uscrebel]

Really? No A- or B-list candidates?

Off the top of my head, I'd look at...

1. Norm Chow, Titans' OC
....maybe he's interested. Don't know if you don't ask.

2. Sarkasian (sp?), OC from USC.
Solid recruiter, understands balanced offense, one of the top coordinators in the game right now.

3. Tedford, HC Cal
Maybe he feels he's set up well at Cal, but he's a good coach...worth a phone call.

Gator Man,

Let me take a bit of exception with your post.

1. Chow...there is a reason that he has never gotten an HC job. He HATES recruiting and seldom talks with anybody on the defensive side of the ball. His relationships with the OL guys at USC was shaky at best. He is a very, very bright offensive mind, but a bit rigid and somewhat quiet. Not a great motivator.


2. Sarkisian. I am not sure why you say that he is a solid recruiter. He is a good position coach...in fact, he may be the best QB in college ball right now...but his reputation as a recruiter is suspect, at best. All of his current commitments are guys who have been USC leans since they were 12 and playing Pop Warner. The only exception is Wendell Tyler's kid and it took Todd McNair to close the deal.

3. Tedford. He might be swayed from Cal, but I don't quite understand his appeal to Bama. He knows diddly about the recruiting grounds in the Southeast. He DOES, however, run one hell of an offense and his players seem to like him. He would probably be the most expensive of the three, but he would also be the only one worth having.

On another note, us Trojans would just as soon Bama takes Tedford and leaves Sark alone.

[WAR DAMN EAGLE]

I honestly do not think that they will hire another Mike.Besides from that,I really don't care,I just wish it would get over and done with,I'm sort of getting bored/burned out with it.

[nooneLT]

I heard Saban turned down a 5mil/year offer even before RR was contacted. I'm not sure if he's still a candidate.



that's actually not true at all...that report said he turned down a 10 year 50 mil offer but alabama state laws only permit 7 year contracts. the reporter heard a rumor and ran with it :/

[WDavE]

I have no idea about a contract offer nor the size of the offer to Saban. You are correct about the state law on contract lengths.

I did however see a press conference that Saban had and he was asked if he spoken to Alabama. He said no, but my agent has. I then told him I was in no way interested in the Alabama job.

Might have been nothing but coach speak at that time but it didn't sound like it to me...

[roosterbooster]

Dumbo has been quoted as saying, "I am happy here in Disney World, this is where I grew up. This is where I am staying. I don't have any intentions of coming to Alabama. My cousin Al and I aren't on the best of terms. It's best we remain apart and stay in our respective area's of interests. Besides, I'm a cartoon. I know nothing about college football."

:laugh:

This just in. Mal Moore has been sited on the Tea Cups very near the Dumbo attraction in the Magic Kingdom. Security has been called as earlier in the day he accosted a group of kids screaming, "Get off my new coach." Dumbo refused to comment however a guy in a Gamecock shirt stated, "Dumbo said he would rather fly kids around in a circle for free than have to compete with the ghost of an animal that was so inferior to the elephant. He was seriously considering it but Alabama refused his request to have Goofy as his offensive coordinator." Moore was last heard mumbling something about Scrooge McDuck.

[WallyGoat]

This just in. Mal Moore has been sited on the Tea Cups very near the Dumbo attraction in the Magic Kingdom. Security has been called as earlier in the day he accosted a group of kids screaming, "Get off my new coach." Dumbo refused to comment however a guy in a Gamecock shirt stated, "Dumbo said he would rather fly kids around in a circle for free than have to compete with the ghost of an animal that was so inferior to the elephant. He was seriously considering it but Alabama refused his request to have Goofy as his offensive coordinator." Moore was last heard mumbling something about Scrooge McDuck.

Stuff it booster! :laugh:

[AuburnPawnTiger]

Jeff Bower's Daughter is burried in Hattisburg(sp?) he's not leaving.

Mike Leach of Texas Tech is weird, literally. Guy walks around barefoot on campus. Really a strange character I don't think he would work in T-Town.

My List

1. Jimbo Fisher great recruiter has plenty of contacts to HS coaches in LA
2. Charlie Strong very intense, knows how to motivate young kids. Also hiring a Black coach could mark the beginning of a new era for UAT
3.Joe Kines, would be simple, terminology would stay the same, and heck all he's ever done was give the offense a chance to blow it

#1 and 2 are your next Mark Richt and Bob Stoops

However, If the BOT the Pres and AD don't all get on the same page as the HC it wont matter who the coach is. After Jetgate in 03 there was a power shake up on the plains.... now look at Auburn. Bama could easily be a contender they have all the pieces they just need to put them in place.

[WallyGoat]

Jeff Bower's Daughter is burried in Hattisburg(sp?) he's not leaving.

Mike Leach of Texas Tech is weird, literally. Guy walks around barefoot on campus. Really a strange character I don't think he would work in T-Town. Uh, pass.

My List

1. Jimbo Fisher great recruiter has plenty of contacts to HS coaches in LA
2. Charlie Strong very intense, knows how to motivate young kids. Also hiring a Black coach could mark the beginning of a new era for UAT
3.Joe Kines, would be simple, terminology would stay the same, and heck all he's ever done was give the offense a chance to blow it

#1 and 2 are your next Mark Richt and Bob Stoops

However, If the BOT the Pres and AD don't all get on the same page as the HC it wont matter who the coach is. After Jetgate in 03 there was a power shake up on the plains.... now look at Auburn. Bama could easily be a contender they have all the pieces they just need to put them in place.

I never thought about Charlie Strong as an HC for Bama. But I'm glad you brought him up. I also never thought of Jimbo Fisher.....that could work.

As far as Joe Kines, he may just be the man for the job. I hope he isn't offended that he hasn't been offered the job. I wouldn't want him to turn it down.

[AuburnPawnTiger]

Joe is already there. He understands the nature of the job. He knows the kids that are already there. he knows his recruits. But Mal says he wants a proven top notch head coach with impressive credintials. He is looking to far away from home

[WallyGoat]

No kidding...I wish Mal would wise up and realize, at least acknowledge, that Joe Kines is a great option. Because if he hires someone else, it's not guaranteed that he will stay at Alabama and remain DC. He could fleet to Texas where he has been offered to assist under Mack Brown.

[AuburnPawnTiger]

No kidding...I wish Mal would wise up and realize, at least acknowledge, that Joe Kines is a great option. Because if he hires someone else, it's not guaranteed that he will stay at Alabama and remain DC. He could fleet to Texas where he has been offered to assist under Mack Brown.

Nope he wants to go gung-ho and get a "name" ,anything that will make him look good initially but in the end it will probably blow up in his face like the whole RR deal

[WallyGoat]

Nope he wants to go gung-ho and get a "name" ,anything that will make him look good initially but in the end it will probably blow up in his face like the whole RR deal

Can't argue with that. That's why he'll be fired.

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

#1 and 2 are your next Mark Richt and Bob Stoops
Neither of these coaches would have any reason in the world to leave their respective jobs. Especially Stoops, who has a nice salary, great recruiting, won a NC (been there 3 times), and lots of family in Norman now.

Bama needs to look at proven coaching asst. like the Saints did and look how their coach turned out. If Bama finds a tough OC or DC who wants to make it in the HC business bad enough, he will turn Bama around even if Bama is just a stepping stone to a better school/NFL job.

[TaySC]

Danny Ford

[WDavE]

Here is the problem with Kines right now.....
After what Mal told the world what Bama was looking for in a head coach. Now, giving the job to Kines would look like they were settling for someone.

[AuburnPawnTiger]

Neither of these coaches would have any reason in the world to leave their respective jobs. Especially Stoops, who has a nice salary, great recruiting, won a NC (been there 3 times), and lots of family in Norman now.

Bama needs to look at proven coaching asst. like the Saints did and look how their coach turned out. If Bama finds a tough OC or DC who wants to make it in the HC business bad enough, he will turn Bama around even if Bama is just a stepping stone to a better school/NFL job.

I meant Jimbo Fisher and Charlie Strong are going to be the next hot assistants that have major success as a HC like Richt and Stoops

Not that Richt and Stoops are coming to bammer.... we know that wouldn't ever happen , hahaha

[WallyGoat]

I meant Jimbo Fisher and Charlie Strong are going to be the next hot assistants that have major success as a HC like Richt and Stoops

Not that Richt and Stoops are coming to bammer.... we know that wouldn't ever happen , hahaha

Not unless you paid them $10 million per year with a $3.5 million signing bonus. Who would turn that down?

[AU Blaaaaaaaake]

Not unless you paid them $10 million per year with a $3.5 million signing bonus. Who would turn that down?Bama's pockets aren't deep enough for that, and it would only bring more new criticism to the Bama program being the "New York Yankees" of college football.

[Cianne]

Not unless you paid them $10 million per year with a $3.5 million signing bonus. Who would turn that down?

I did. Sorry, I just can't be the next coach over there :(

[AceLeroy]

Jeff Bower's Daughter is burried in Hattisburg(sp?) he's not leaving.




This is twice I have heard someone that Jeff Bower wouldn't leave hattiesburg because his daughter is buried there. Has He stated this himself?

It isn't like he couldn't return there to visit as often as he felt like it. Would this really keep him from taking another job outside of Hattiesburg? You know if his daughter were still living she would want him to do whatever was best for him and his coaching career.

He has been a huge success at USM and maybe he would like to see how well he could compete in the SEC.

Anyway , if not Bowers how about another MS coach , one who played for Bear??

Come on Bama , do the right thing. Croom is sitting by the phone waiting for Mama to call him home. We (MSU) will be neighborly and wave the no compete claus. :whistle:

[Cianne]

Anyway , if not Bowers how about another MS coach , one who played for Bear??


You know, Dubose is having a great time at Millsaps :)

[CrimsonTide12xs]

BAMA has NO ROOM for CROOM!

[WallyGoat]

Bama's pockets aren't deep enough for that, and it would only bring more new criticism to the Bama program being the "New York Yankees" of college football.

Of course you know I was being a smart ass. :laugh: P.S. I really don't want to be associated with the Yankess. Go Phillies!

[shk999]

This is twice I have heard someone that Jeff Bower wouldn't leave hattiesburg because his daughter is buried there. Has He stated this himself?

It isn't like he couldn't return there to visit as often as he felt like it. Would this really keep him from taking another job outside of Hattiesburg? You know if his daughter were still living she would want him to do whatever was best for him and his coaching career.

He has been a huge success at USM and maybe he would like to see how well he could compete in the SEC.

Anyway , if not Bowers how about another MS coach , one who played for Bear??

Come on Bama , do the right thing. Croom is sitting by the phone waiting for Mama to call him home. We (MSU) will be neighborly and wave the no compete claus. :whistle:

Never can tell, after all, MM is runnin' the show, and he is obviously full of suprises!!

[bbqit]

Southern Miss is about to have an extremely high tv rating for a bowl game. Look at the date. Smart move.

[DIXIE'S PRIDE]

John Gruden of TB!

[ADrolltide]

Who cares at this point. Listening to all these Bama coaching rumors is like watching paint dry. Texas Tech is the current day Bama of the SEC already. They can pass a lot but other than that, they don't do much. If Bama brings in a mediocre coach to fill the gap, they are just going to remain Auburn's punching bag and a 2nd/3rd tier SEC program.
i agree...people should stop talking and making up rumors and just let it pan out

[bigsexxxy]

This is twice I have heard someone that Jeff Bower wouldn't leave hattiesburg because his daughter is buried there. Has He stated this himself?

It isn't like he couldn't return there to visit as often as he felt like it. Would this really keep him from taking another job outside of Hattiesburg? You know if his daughter were still living she would want him to do whatever was best for him and his coaching career.

He has been a huge success at USM and maybe he would like to see how well he could compete in the SEC.

Anyway , if not Bowers how about another MS coach , one who played for Bear??

Come on Bama , do the right thing. Croom is sitting by the phone waiting for Mama to call him home. We (MSU) will be neighborly and wave the no compete claus. :whistle:

From what I've read Bowers 17 year old daughter died in a car wreck in 1997 and after the outpouring of support he decided that Hattiesburg was really home. So I really doubt that he will make the jump. Bowers was also QB for USM back in the 70's.