Did bama score a td against the gators? [Archive]

Jay Bee

10-03-2006, 03:05 PM

You be the judge..

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WDE!
jb

GTTiger

10-03-2006, 03:18 PM

I doubt the play was reviewable, because it was probably stopped with a whistle. =P

BamaFever06

10-03-2006, 03:27 PM

It never ends.... :laugh:

Jay Bee

10-03-2006, 03:40 PM

I doubt the play was reviewable, because it was probably stopped with a whistle. =P

Every time the ball crosses the goal line, the whistle blows. I think the play was reviewable, but I guess the preponderance of evidence to overrule the call didn't exist. I just found it interesting, especially after all the griping over some other calls or non calls this season.

WDE!
jb

AU Blaaaaaaaake

10-03-2006, 03:45 PM

And they still lost!

GTTiger

10-03-2006, 03:46 PM

I was just joking around. I don't think it's reviewable because the whistle blew before the other team had possession of the ball. Normally if a team is reviewing a fumble on the goal line, the ball was either immediatly jumped on top of, or the ball goes out the end zone/out of bounds.

Even if they called it a fumble, I'm not sure how they could decide who would get the ball.

That said, It's so dumb when players drop the ball early when running uncontested to the end zone...but it is Alabama =P

Jay Bee

10-03-2006, 03:54 PM

I was just joking around. I don't think it's reviewable because the whistle blew before the other team had possession of the ball. Normally if a team is reviewing a fumble on the goal line, the ball was either immediatly jumped on top of, or the ball goes out the end zone/out of bounds.

Even if they called it a fumble, I'm not sure how they could decide who would get the ball.

That said, It's so dumb when players drop the ball early when running uncontested to the end zone...but it is Alabama =P

If it was ruled a fumble and it rolled out of the endzone, I believe the gators would get the ball at the 20. It almost got us last year against the dawgs, but luckily they ruled it out before the endzone.

WDE1
jb

GTTiger

10-03-2006, 04:25 PM

If it was ruled a fumble and it rolled out of the endzone, I believe the gators would get the ball at the 20. It almost got us last year against the dawgs, but luckily they ruled it out before the endzone.

WDE1
jb

Yeah, I understand that. I just think that if he just dropped the ball right before he went into the endzone(and he was probably in the middle of the field), then the ball probably just rolled maybe a yard or two and came to rest, just not sure where.

It'd be a pretty unique situation, and I wonder what the call would be. I think the only way it would be ruled a fumble is if the referee noticed it before signaling TD and waited for someone to jump on it.

GatorHunter

10-03-2006, 04:28 PM

Even funnier thing happened in the game...Bama had 12 defensive guys on the field...just before UF snapped the ball, Shula called over one of the officials...the official whistled and stopped play...the 12th guy ran off the field...Shula went back to the sideline...no time-out called or charged...Shula just stopped the game, got the x-tra player off the field...the announcers were like "What's going on...is Shula calling a time-out?"

shanksta13

10-03-2006, 04:38 PM

I like the sig GH!

BamaDude06

10-03-2006, 06:07 PM

Florida had a TD reviewed for the same reason (upheld).

shanksta13

10-03-2006, 06:10 PM

Florida had a TD reviewed for the same reason (upheld).

To be honest with you, I thought ours could easily have been called back. If the ruling on the field had been a fumble it would have stood as such. But since the call on the field was TD and the official was right on the line we got the benefit of the doubt.

BamaDude06

10-03-2006, 06:55 PM

To be honest with you, I thought ours could easily have been called back. If the ruling on the field had been a fumble it would have stood as such. But since the call on the field was TD and the official was right on the line we got the benefit of the doubt.

Yeah, we were talking about it in the stands. We agreed the booth would have agreed with whatever the field call was.

blues_cap

10-03-2006, 06:59 PM

did hall drop the ball b/f he crossed the goal line??? probably. was the ball coming out of caldwell's hands as he crossed the goal line?? probably.

this replay is ridiculous. both calls were probably wrong on the field, but it seems you cant overturn one without consent from congress.

personally, i dont think it should matter what the original call was. in this case, both were probably wrong so why should use that in the official replay?? why use a wrong call as the measuring point for the future call?? the official has the benefit of replay from 5-6 different angles and slow motion. use the equipment given to make the right call.

shanksta13

10-03-2006, 07:02 PM

both calls were probably wrong on the field, but it seems you cant overturn one without consent from congress.

Guess we're stuck with the SEC officials' original calls then... :laugh:

GatorHunter

10-03-2006, 08:44 PM

Florida had a TD reviewed for the same reason (upheld).

Caldwell crossed the line before losing the ball...the replay showed it pretty clearly. Hall dropped the ball before breaking the plane of the endzone...replays showed that as well...but who cares!

timNem

10-03-2006, 10:53 PM

Even funnier thing happened in the game...Bama had 12 defensive guys on the field...just before UF snapped the ball, Shula called over one of the officials...the official whistled and stopped play...the 12th guy ran off the field...Shula went back to the sideline...no time-out called or charged...Shula just stopped the game, got the x-tra player off the field...the announcers were like "What's going on...is Shula calling a time-out?"and people say the guy can't coach lol....

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 03:38 PM

Crossed the line, didn't cross the line, does it really matter? It's not like that play changed the outcome of the game. Florida had the better team, it showed on the field (especially in the second half) and it showed on the scoreboard. Is there some greater satisfaction to be gained by claiming you really won 28-6, as one Gator fan stated on the link below the photo? Does holding Bama without a touchdown on a technicality erase Florida going without a TD in Tuscaloosa? I really hope it doesn't come to that, sheesh...

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 04:42 PM

Does holding Bama without a touchdown on a technicality erase Florida going without a TD in Tuscaloosa? I really hope it doesn't come to that, sheesh...

First off, it was an Auburn fan that posted this thread. And do we really need to dig up history again??? :laugh:

blues_cap

10-04-2006, 05:03 PM

First off, it was an Auburn fan that posted this thread. And do we really need to dig up history again??? :laugh:

you notice that even though bama took an ass-whipping less than 5 days ago, the bama fan still comes up with a way to bring up the game last year, which was over 12 months ago???

i wish tebow would of scored or ryan smith hadnt dropped the pic 6. 35-13 sounds so much better than 28-13.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 05:09 PM

i wish tebow would of scored or ryan smith hadnt dropped the pic 6. 35-13 sounds so much better than 28-13.

Tebow scored...

blues_cap

10-04-2006, 05:18 PM

Tebow scored...

not on the last drive when uf let the clock run out.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 05:19 PM

not on the last drive when uf let the clock run out.

Oh ok, my bad. I thought you meant during the game as a whole.

RebNick1

10-04-2006, 05:41 PM

Haven't you learned anything? Alabama has, is , and will always whine about them getting robbed when they loose. I mean....come on. Getting robbed is the Oregon/ OU game or the Ole Miss/Georgia game. :brick:

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 06:01 PM

First off, it was an Auburn fan that posted this thread. And do we really need to dig up history again??? :laugh:

Yes, an Auburn Fan started this thread.....But read the comment by the Gator fan at the link he posted underneath the photos, just like I said in thefirst place (attention to detail please). I'm sorry if my bringing up last year's game hurts your feelings so much, but judging by some of the comments regarding the scoreline it seems some Gator fans are having trouble forgetting last year. You can call the score 28-0, 35-0, 72 to -14 for all I care. The point is the game is over, this year's UA/UF, and last year's UA/UF.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 06:08 PM

You can call the score 28-0, 35-0, 72 to -14 for all I care. The point is the game is over, this year's UA/UF, and last year's UA/UF.

So why bring up either?

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 06:12 PM

Because I was curious as to whether beating Alabama 28-13 was as important as beating them 28-6. That curiousity was based on the comment I read on the link. Wasn't trying to drum up last year's game or ruffle any feathers, or scales in this case.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 06:23 PM

Yes, an Auburn Fan started this thread.....But read the comment by the Gator fan at the link he posted underneath the photos, just like I said in thefirst place (attention to detail please).

I knew what you were saying. My point was that no Gator fan on this board has come forward and said that we really should have won 28-6 so your whole earlier post just seems like a way for you to conveniently bring up history (31-3).

Let's take a closer look:

Is there some greater satisfaction to be gained by claiming you really won 28-6, as one Gator fan stated on the link below the photo?

OK that is the fan from the other board stating that we really won 28-6, not one on this board.

Does holding Bama without a touchdown on a technicality erase Florida going without a TD in Tuscaloosa?

Anyone else that wants to learn how to bring up history take out your notebooks. Notice how he conveniently slides from bringing up a fan's comments on a different message board, to bringing up some Bama history.

*It should be noted that no Gator fan responded in accord with the fan from the other board's comment. Here are some examples of how Gator's fans from SECTalk responded to the comment that the score was really 28-6:

Even funnier thing happened in the game...Bama had 12 defensive guys on the field...just before UF snapped the ball, Shula called over one of the officials...the official whistled and stopped play...the 12th guy ran off the field...Shula went back to the sideline...no time-out called or charged...Shula just stopped the game, got the x-tra player off the field...the announcers were like "What's going on...is Shula calling a time-out?"

Hmmm, interestingly enough no claim to a 28-6 victory.

To be honest with you, I thought ours (Caldwell's TD) could easily have been called back. If the ruling on the field had been a fumble it would have stood as such. But since the call on the field was TD and the official was right on the line we got the benefit of the doubt.

Yes that's me contending that one of FLORIDA's TDs could have been called into question just as easily.

did hall drop the ball b/f he crossed the goal line??? probably. was the ball coming out of caldwell's hands as he crossed the goal line?? probably.

this replay is ridiculous. both calls were probably wrong on the field, but it seems you cant overturn one without consent from congress.

personally, i dont think it should matter what the original call was. in this case, both were probably wrong so why should use that in the official replay?? why use a wrong call as the measuring point for the future call?? the official has the benefit of replay from 5-6 different angles and slow motion. use the equipment given to make the right call.

Once again, mention from a GATOR FAN that Caldwell's TD was a very similar situation and could have been called back as well.

Caldwell crossed the line before losing the ball...the replay showed it pretty clearly. Hall dropped the ball before breaking the plane of the endzone...replays showed that as well...but who cares!

OK, a little different angle, here we have a Gator fan that feels Caldwell's was valid but Hall's was not. THEN he asks who cares? Seems like a trend that Gators Fans on this board couldn't care less.

My point is that no Gator Fan on this board even attempted to claim a 28-6 victory, so to use a fan's comment from another board just to bring up history is pretty sad.

Seriously, like you said, both games are over. So could we please stop bringing them up??? :whistle:

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 06:23 PM

Another reason for the curiosity is in 2002, Alabama shut out LSU 31-0 i believe. The following year LSU thumped Alabama, i don't remember the exact score but it was a substantial amount to 3. Now I respect LSU and Nick Saban but what he did next really rubbed me the wrong way. After Bama kicked the field-goal that gave them their only points, Saban chewed the holy hell out of his defense for allowing those points. By this point in the game LSU had the game wrapped up and that field goal had little outcome to the final score. I just didn't understand what appeared to be the "revenge" factor comming out from the game the previous year. LSU won the game easily and went on to win the NC, that should have been all that was important.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 06:25 PM

Because I was curious as to whether beating Alabama 28-13 was as important as beating them 28-6. That curiousity was based on the comment I read on the link. Wasn't trying to drum up last year's game or ruffle any feathers, or scales in this case.

Ok that long post right below the one I just quoted was posted before I read your subsequent post. So you can pretty much disregard everything I said since you clarified your intention. I just don't like it when people bring up history for no apparent reason. Thanks, problem solved.

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 06:31 PM

Wow, First I thought I clearly stated that the comment I was referring to WAS ON THE OTHER PAGE. Yes, I did, so there's no argument there. Second, I never said in any way, shape, or form that any Gator fan on this thread implied that. No, I didn't, so there's no argument there. You seem to think that I had to sneak last year's game into it somehow. If I want to bring up last year's game I'll damn well do it in the broad daylight. Was that disrespectful to Florida? Nope. Read what I said about this year's game since you are so obsessed with the previous posts. I said Florida had the better team, scoreboard showed it, but I WAS ASKING GATOR FANS ON THIS THREAD IF BEATING BAMA 28-6 WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN 28-13 AS THE OTHER GATOR FAN IMPLIED ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WEBSITE. The capitalization is so that you can clearly understand my original intention instead of twisting what I say more than a tornado in a twizzler factory.

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 06:33 PM

It appears I posted this without reading your last post. I think we are at an understanding? I honestly wasn't trying to bring last year's game into this discussion to anger anyone, just wanted to ask that question.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 06:36 PM

Wow, First I thought I clearly stated that the comment I was referring to WAS ON THE OTHER PAGE. Yes, I did, so there's no argument there. Second, I never said in any way, shape, or form that any Gator fan on this thread implied that. No, I didn't, so there's no argument there. You seem to think that I had to sneak last year's game into it somehow. If I want to bring up last year's game I'll damn well do it in the broad daylight. Was that disrespectful to Florida? Nope. Read what I said about this year's game since you are so obsessed with the previous posts. I said Florida had the better team, scoreboard showed it, but I WAS ASKING GATOR FANS ON THIS THREAD IF BEATING BAMA 28-6 WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN 28-13 AS THE OTHER GATOR FAN IMPLIED ON A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WEBSITE. The capitalization is so that you can clearly understand my original intention instead of twisting what I say more than a tornado in a twizzler factory.

Ok that long post right below the one I just quoted was posted before I read your subsequent post. So you can pretty much disregard everything I said since you clarified your intention. I just don't like it when people bring up history for no apparent reason. Thanks, problem solved.

Yeah you probably did the same thing I did. I posted that long response before you had clarified why you brought up the "28-6" thing. I'm guessing you posted this before you read ^. Lag time... LOL :laugh:

No worries man. I just wanted a reason for your post, which you adequately provided. I don't like Bama fans that try to revert to history just because. Clearly, you have shown that that was not your intention. I commend you for that. And as I stated above, I take back my comments from the long post.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 06:37 PM

It appears I posted this without reading your last post. I think we are at an understanding? I honestly wasn't trying to bring last year's game into this discussion to anger anyone, just wanted to ask that question.

Haha yeah this lag time is killing me! :laugh: We're all good!

Crimson Kicker8

10-04-2006, 06:41 PM

Yeah you probably did the same thing I did. I posted that long response before you had clarified why you brought up the "28-6" thing. I'm guessing you posted this before you read ^. Lag time... LOL :laugh:

No worries man. I just wanted a reason for your post, which you adequately provided. I don't like Bama fans that try to revert to history just because. Clearly, you have shown that that was not your intention. I commend you for that. And as I stated above, I take back my comments from the long post.

Yes, I'm ashamed by some of the things Bama fans say on here so I understand completely. Glad we reached an understanding, I honestly wasn't going for insult, I don't enjoy being blatantly insulted and try to refrain from insulting others.

shanksta13

10-04-2006, 07:32 PM

Glad we reached an understanding, I honestly wasn't going for insult, I don't enjoy being blatantly insulted and try to refrain from insulting others.

Ditto, but I will stand up for my team when attacked as I'm sure you would too.