View Full Version : Who Will Win: Arkansas at Vanderbilt?
GAMECOCK_FAN
09-11-2006, 02:25 PM
I see five interesting games this week involving SEC teams, that could conceiveably go either way (LSU/Auburn, Arkansas/Vanderbilt, Ole Miss/Kentucky, Tulane/Mississippi State, and Florida/Tennessee).
Who do you THINK will win between........Arkansas at Vanderbilt?
shanksta13
09-11-2006, 04:37 PM
I actually think this one is a lot tougher call than most people will admit, because Vandy actually looks really good right now. But I'm going to stick with Arkansas in this one.
I don't think Tulane has a shot in hell against MSU's defense. But then again, they might only need a field goal to beat MSU.
kles30
09-11-2006, 05:08 PM
This is Arkansas' to lose. Vandy will not give the game to them, they play really smart football. They are well coached, and they capitalize on mistakes. Arkansas should pull it out easily though.
scunyon
09-11-2006, 05:15 PM
The Razorbacks will run wild in this one. I haven't paid much attention lately, is there still QB controversy in Little Rock?
gopig
09-11-2006, 06:41 PM
Well. I voted Ark and the vote currently stands at 10-1 ark. I'm a little suprised by that, honestly. We have not played well thus far. I certainly don't expect us to walk over Vandy, we have a lot to work on. I expect a hard fought game and I hope we pull it out.
gopig
09-11-2006, 06:43 PM
The Razorbacks will run wild in this one. I haven't paid much attention lately, is there still QB controversy in Little Rock?
No controversy in Little Rock! In went the freshman, and I don't think he's going anywhere. There are, however, many conspiracies as to why he got the job so quickly, especially when RoJo didn't play poorly against USC (now RoJo isn't even a QB anymore.)
AFWarrior83
09-11-2006, 07:01 PM
I picked my Hogs, BUT the Vandy game is scary to me since we have not had much Offense.
scunyon
09-11-2006, 07:05 PM
No controversy in Little Rock! In went the freshman, and I don't think he's going anywhere. There are, however, many conspiracies as to why he got the job so quickly, especially when RoJo didn't play poorly against USC (now RoJo isn't even a QB anymore.)
I was just curious. I know that with their new OC, there would be a lot of raised eyebrows if MM just walzted in and took the reigns. It looks like we'll have our own QB controversy here in a few days :wacko:
WooHawg
09-11-2006, 07:28 PM
Picked Arkansas of course but it depends on which Arkansas team shows up. Malzahn supposedly did call the plays last game. Listened to the game and it really didn't sounds like the spread to me. Rumors are running rampant about what really is happening on the Hill but who knows. Regardless that I am not a big Houston Nutt fan, I still am behind the Hogs and think they will get things together for this one.
BAMA NATE
09-11-2006, 09:50 PM
This is my upset of the week. If Vandy plays Arky like they played us then they have a great shot in this one. Nickson will give the Hogs defense serious trouble with both his legs and arm when he finds Earl Bennett late in the 4th for the win.
BubbaVol
09-11-2006, 09:59 PM
If a tree fell in the ......
Just kidding! I'm picking the Hogs to win. Vandy has given Bama fits for the past few years, but they tend to let down the next week. Arkansas has a whole heap of starters back and I think they will get things rolling this weekend.
Hog Slop
09-11-2006, 10:58 PM
No way we win this game, not with all the drama we have between the coaches on our sideline. Our offensive line coach yelling at OC during the Utah State game. Houston Nutt is not letting his new OC call plays. Even though Mitch Mustain played in his offense last year. The kids that were recruited here to play in this offense are being lied to. It's a mess down here in Arkansas folks. Fans are fed up with this Mickey Mouse coaching staff.
woo_pig_sooie
09-12-2006, 12:06 AM
No way we win this game, not with all the drama we have between the coaches on our sideline. Our offensive line coach yelling at OC during the Utah State game. Houston Nutt is not letting his new OC call plays. Even though Mitch Mustain played in his offense last year. The kids that were recruited here to play in this offense are being lied to. It's a mess down here in Arkansas folks. Fans are fed up with this Mickey Mouse coaching staff.
You're an idiot. Coach Malzahn has said repeatedly that he is calling the plays. How do you know what the coaches told players during their recruitment ? Anyone that wants a complete spread offense right away is a moron. We have McFadden and our O-line is flat out dominant in the running game.
Hog Slop
09-12-2006, 12:41 AM
You're an idiot. Coach Malzahn has said repeatedly that he is calling the plays. How do you know what the coaches told players during their recruitment ? Anyone that wants a complete spread offense right away is a moron. We have McFadden and our O-line is flat out dominant in the running game.You're the idiot. Boy our running game sure helped us these last two seasons.
I don't know what was said during there recruitment, but I do know they didn't come to play Nutts conservative offense. Mitch, Damian, London and Ben come to Ark because Gus was named the OC. Fans don't want to see Nutts bullshiit offense anymore. And if you think Gus has full contol of the offense, well your fooling yourself. If we lose to Vandy this weekend then Nutt might as well pack his stuff.
woo_pig_sooie
09-12-2006, 01:31 AM
You're the idiot. Boy our running game sure helped us these last two seasons.
I don't know what was said during there recruitment, but I do know they didn't come to play Nutts conservative offense. Mitch, Damian, London and Ben come to Ark because Gus was named the OC. Fans don't want to see Nutts bullshiit offense anymore. And if you think Gus has full contol of the offense, well your fooling yourself. If we lose to Vandy this weekend then Nutt might as well pack his stuff.
Yeah, it was Coach Nutt calling all those stupid screen passes in the USC game that went absolutely nowhere. Our running game is what saved us the last couple years from being completely horrible. With that kind of success, you shouldn't throw it completely out for a no-huddle, spread offense. First of all, the no-huddle will only work if we're moving the ball down the field; otherwise, the defense is back on the field getting worn out, just like in the USC game.
With that said, I'm all for Coach Malzahn implementing his offense. I just don't want it all right now. It wouldn't work and leave our defense hanging out to dry.
I've got Arkansas by at least 7, at the most 13.
absolutebama
09-12-2006, 08:53 AM
There might be some controversy @ Ark , I have no idea! Regardless I just can't see vandy winning a game like this.....I mean vandy plays their heart out each week and rarely receives a win for their efforts.
The Hogs have way to much talent and year in and year out are one of the toughest football teams in the conference. If Arkansas has too they can just use the old ground and pound offense to control the clock and McFadden will eventually turn the corner and score on a long one. Vandy will have use the safeties to stop the run and when they get caught McFadden is long gone.....I predict the HOGS 35-14 or better.
RTR!!!1
WDavE
09-12-2006, 09:27 AM
I think Vandy gets exposed this weekend.
The Hogs are huge upfront and have a good running game. I think the Hogs run right at them until they wilt.
Ark. by three or more scores...
AFWarrior83
09-12-2006, 09:46 AM
I just want to see some deep balls thrown starting this game! I think it's time for Nutt to move on to NC State, and we hopefully can get BUTCH DAVIS!! (or anyone who can recruit outside the state)
woo_pig_sooie
09-12-2006, 10:35 AM
I just want to see some deep balls thrown starting this game! I think it's time for Nutt to move on to NC State, and we hopefully can get BUTCH DAVIS!! (or anyone who can recruit outside the state)
Explain to me how it's Coach Nutt's fault that Coach Malzahn's offense isn't running on all cylinders right now? The offense, run by a true freshman, is not going to be a well oiled machine. Let's see how we do against Vandy.
I just want to see some deep balls thrown starting this game! I think it's time for Nutt to move on to NC State, and we hopefully can get BUTCH DAVIS!! (or anyone who can recruit outside the state)
Hire Frank Solich. He'll make McFadden into a Heisman Trophy winner almost overnight. :happy: :ohmy:
AFWarrior83
09-12-2006, 11:01 AM
Butch Davis is a proven winner. Coached in the NFL with the Browns and in College at the U. He has ties to Arkansas and is known to be interested.
As for woopigsooie,
I have seen 2 deep balls both complete, one to Ben Cleveland and the other to Damian Williams against USC. Surely we can throw it deep more often against lesser talented Defenses? Those screen passes had Nutt's name written all over them. Also Markinson was seen yelling at Gus on the sidelines against Utah St. It's a mess on the hill right now, just seems like perfect timing to clean house and scrap this year. If we got Butch it would make it all worth it because he CAN RECRUIT and IS WELL KNOWN!
Butch Davis is a proven winner. Coached in the NFL with the Browns and in College at the U. He has ties to Arkansas and is known to be interested.
He is a proven winner at the college level. That I will concede, but the NCAA tends to look a lot closer whenever he's coaching. Would you really want that?????
As for the Cleveland Browns.....They SUCKED!!!!
AFWarrior83
09-12-2006, 11:16 AM
I know the Browns sucked, but he can say that he has ties to the NFL, Nutt can only say hey I can get you to Murray State if this is too much! Point is Nutt is past his prime, and needs to move on!
Hog Slop
09-12-2006, 11:18 AM
Explain to me how it's Coach Nutt's fault that Coach Malzahn's offense isn't running on all cylinders right now? The offense, run by a true freshman, is not going to be a well oiled machine. Let's see how we do against Vandy.It's coach Nutt's fault because we have to rely on true freshman recievers. If he would have recruited better over the years, this offense would be in full gear. Nutt has done nothing since he's been here. His ego won't let Gus have full control of this offense.
Nutt will be gone after this year, and the majority of the fans will be happy.
absolutebama
09-12-2006, 11:18 AM
Allow me to but in......record 1-1 shutout last week's opponent, play vandy this week and at home and should win.....2-1 will play BAMA on CBS national TV with a good chance of winning the game....and you want to scrape the season...hire Butch Davis because he built a house in Arkansas?
Reasoning: Hogs were beat by a USC team that would beat them 99 out of a 100 times anyway, only 2 deep passes(but your 1st team ALL-SEC running back has 184 yds rushing and 2 TD's) what? 18 returning starters....ALL-SEC playmakers on your defense and huge Hog-molly's on both sides of the ball....5 star QB to boot!
Guess what football coaches yell...alot!!!! It's your opinion and your intitled to it and frankly I wish the HOGS would throw in the towel.... I am not a Nutt fan either but c'mon man support your team!
RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
AFWarrior83
09-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Allow me to but in......record 1-1 shutout last week's opponent, play vandy this week and at home and should win.....2-1 will play BAMA on CBS national TV with a good chance of winning the game....and you want to scrape the season...hire Butch Davis because he built a house in Arkansas?
Reasoning: Hogs were beat by a USC team that would beat them 99 out of a 100 times anyway, only 2 deep passes(but your 1st team ALL-SEC running back has 184 yds rushing and 2 TD's) what? 18 returning starters....ALL-SEC playmakers on your defense and huge Hog-molly's on both sides of the ball....5 star QB to boot!
Guess what football coaches yell...alot!!!! It's your opinion and your intitled to it and frankly I wish the HOGS would throw in the towel.... I am not a Nutt fan either but c'mon man support your team!
RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
We will probably have 8 wins this year, but we have the talent/schedule to win at least 10! The reason we are even able to pass the ball at all is because of Gus Malzahn NOT Nutt. Darren McFadden was going to be a Hog regardless, and would be great no matter who the coach is. The problem is that we always get stuck in the middle of the pack, we want to be like LSU or Auburn of the West, and we CAN with our facilities and fan base. Nutt will never see coaching time in the NFL, we want a BIGTIME coach. USC got Spurrier, Florida got Urban, Auburn got Tubbs. Why can't we have a big name coach bamafan?
absolutebama
09-12-2006, 12:55 PM
I can't provide answers but here is what I think.....Tubs is a self made man....he was on the way out the door and managed to prove Lowder a fool, if he could just learn to win with a little more class....hum.
Spurrier is also a self made man...he took a never was Duke program and turned heads with a unique coaching philosophy and quick witt that his fan base loved with good reason....he learned to win with class....took a few years.
Meyer is the newer version of spurrier....he has had the uncanny ability to get the very best out of his talent, it remains to be seen what he can do with all the talent just given to him....from the looks of things he will do plenty of celebrating at Florida before moving. He strikes me as the type to driven to stay anywhere very long but so far despite the emotional he has won and lost with class...BAMA had to give him a good ol' boy welcome to the SEC last year, but Urban's not green anymore so watch out!
LSU is historically a can't miss athletic program.....in all major sports and always have been! When you think of LSU you think of great players......the coaching has not always been great. That area of the South oozes with talent......many times in the past LSU has fallen short of expectations with better talent than others.Saban turned it around if Archer would come back it would even things out maybe?
As for the Hogs....OLD SCHOOL still fuels the fires and rules the house. IMHO you could take film from 10 years ago and prepare hogs on saturday. I'm just not sure that it's an overnight fix for the HOGS when the most charismatic person to come from Ark is Clinton well that's great but he's not a football player. Maybe Davis would be a good fit but Solich mentioned earlier sounds better to me....or maybe give the guy from West Virginia big money to come down and shake things up.....or just chill?
RTR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
azamugg
09-12-2006, 01:17 PM
Arkansas should win this by 17 points at least.........alot of people are giving Vandy more credit than they deserve for the alabama game......alabama is young and learning in some key areas and lost 3 scoring opportunities inside Vandy's 15 yard line so the final score was misleading ...plus we held them to less than 90 yards in the second half
gopig
09-12-2006, 06:00 PM
Well I'll definately go on the record here as not giving up on the hogs season. I think the changes we've made this year are more than cosmetic, and I don't think we need to scrap the coaches or anything like that yet. We're not playing well at this point, but we really shouldn't expect to be yet. Give em a chance to gel, it's been 2 games.
AFWarrior83
09-13-2006, 08:59 AM
If we beat both Vandy and Bama by at least a TD or 2, I'll settle down.
kles30
09-13-2006, 09:02 AM
yu could beat Bama but not vandy
nghssenior04
09-13-2006, 01:30 PM
My boy Broderick Stewert has only played in 2 college football games ever and is 3rd in the S.E.C. for sacks. The Hogs QB better be ready to lay on the ground
AFWarrior83
09-13-2006, 01:48 PM
My boy Broderick Stewert has only played in 2 college football games ever and is 3rd in the S.E.C. for sacks. The Hogs QB better be ready to lay on the ground
I'm not worried about sacks in this game, our O-line is massive and we block well for the most part. We will run it and run it well I can say that for sure.
nghssenior04
09-14-2006, 09:27 AM
that's what ole Heines said at Michigan said 2 weeks ago
that's what ole Heines said at Michigan said 2 weeks ago
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AFWarrior83
09-14-2006, 09:37 AM
that's what ole Heines said at Michigan said 2 weeks ago
Well one of us will be eating Crowe in a couple of days. We shall see, and welcome! :happy:
Noah.Dreams
09-14-2006, 01:04 PM
The line is Arkansas by 5.5 points.
Expect Vandy to load the box, and force you win with the pass. This will be easy money, I'll take Vandy to win.
gopig
09-14-2006, 08:15 PM
The line is Arkansas by 5.5 points.
Expect Vandy to load the box, and force you win with the pass. This will be easy money, I'll take Vandy to win.
To tell the truth, I really kind of hope they can stop our run completely by loading the box. I think Mustain really wants to sling it, and the faster he gets gametime passing reps the faster we'll become really dangerous.
Vandy1
09-15-2006, 01:03 AM
I believe in Vandy and won't bet against them! Then again I'm not a betting man! Vandy by a field goal!!!
GO VANDY!!!
AFWarrior83
09-15-2006, 04:22 AM
If we lose to Vandy again, I think Hog Nation will comit suicide! Seriously not a knock on Vandy, but that would crush us... We need to win by at least a TD or 2 to save some face from the USC and Utah St game.
Razorbabe
09-15-2006, 10:52 AM
Arkansas ranks currently as the #1 rushing offense in the SEC, and 5th in total offense. Vandy is ranked #11 in total offense as well as rushing offense. Their ranking in total defense is #9. Not only do they look bad "on paper", they will look bad on the field against the talented Hogs' offense. Arkansas will have no trouble with Vandy.
WDavE
09-15-2006, 12:00 PM
If we lose to Vandy again, I think Hog Nation will comit suicide! Seriously not a knock on Vandy, but that would crush us... We need to win by at least a TD or 2 to save some face from the USC and Utah St game.
Just joking here but if Ark. does somehow lose to Vandy. Our chances for Burns and his big O-Lineman buddy would improve.... :laugh:
AFWarrior83
09-15-2006, 02:38 PM
Just joking here but if Ark. does somehow lose to Vandy. Our chances for Burns and his big O-Lineman buddy would improve.... :laugh:
We just lost a 4* DE to Mizzou! I agree, we need to get at least an 8 win season. :sad:
AFWarrior83
09-16-2006, 03:05 PM
My boy Broderick Stewert has only played in 2 college football games ever and is 3rd in the S.E.C. for sacks. The Hogs QB better be ready to lay on the ground
I hear a CAW CAW CAW what's that in the Sky??? :whistle:
I hear a CAW CAW CAW what's that in the Sky??? :whistle:
I wouldn't get cocky..... :ohmy:
Frankly, Arky got lucky today plain and simple. :mellow:
AFWarrior83
09-16-2006, 03:15 PM
I wouldn't get cocky..... :ohmy:
Frankly, Arky got lucky today plain and simple. :mellow:
We looked like crap, BUT I was referring to her saying our QB would be on his butt a lot. I don't think they had 1? sack... That's where the CAW CAW came from lol! :closedeye
We looked like crap, BUT I was referring to her saying our QB would be on his butt a lot. I don't think they had 1? sack... That's where the CAW CAW came from lol! :closedeye
Oh okay... :happy:
No harm, no foul.
Honestly though, the refs gave yall that game. That backwards pass from Mustain was a fumble and that's what turned the tide to the game. If the refs would have made the RIGHT call, Vandy would have scored a TD on that play.
The SEC officials just plain STINK! :angry:
GamecockDieHard
09-16-2006, 03:28 PM
That missed call on the fumbled back-pass of Arky gave the game to the hogs. I hate it for Vandy, they deserved to win the game. There were a couple calls that went against Arky later on, but the damage was done. Score another one for the zebras.
LSU just got stuck by a bad call that was actually called correctly at first. 4th down conversion was caught, the guy took 2 steps with clear possession, the defender hit his arm, the ball pops out and rolls out of bounds. First called a reception, but then Turbeville told them to check their wallets, I mean their screens again, and sure enough, it went Auburn's way. These reviews are supposed to be irrefuteable(sp?). No way that was irrefuteable.
That missed call on the fumbled back-pass of Arky gave the game to the hogs. I hate it for Vandy, they deserved to win the game. There were a couple calls that went against Arky later on, but the damage was done. Score another one for the zebras.
LSU just got stuck by a bad call that was actually called correctly at first. 4th down conversion was caught, the guy took 2 steps with clear possession, the defender hit his arm, the ball pops out and rolls out of bounds. First called a reception, but then Turbeville told them to check their wallets, I mean their screens again, and sure enough, it went Auburn's way. These reviews are supposed to be irrefuteable(sp?). No way that was irrefuteable.
I agree 150%!!!! :angry:
gopig
09-16-2006, 03:45 PM
I agree 100% that the incomplete pass call in the Ark/Vandy was wrong. I disagree, however, with saying that if it were called correctly Vandy would have won. You just don't know that at all. Vandy would've been up one TD with plenty of time left in the game, and we would've played the rest of the game to see who won.
AFWarrior83
09-16-2006, 04:00 PM
Well after the past two season's and how the ball HAS NOT bounced our way, it's about time the break goes our way! I agree that could have changed the outcome, but everytime they scored we answered, I still think the difference was the missed PAT by Vandy.
GamecockDieHard
09-16-2006, 04:06 PM
I agree 100% that the incomplete pass call in the Ark/Vandy was wrong. I disagree, however, with saying that if it were called correctly Vandy would have won. You just don't know that at all. Vandy would've been up one TD with plenty of time left in the game, and we would've played the rest of the game to see who won.
You're right gopig. No one can ever say for certain. Congrats on the win!
The better team won period!!! It shouldn't take a fluke play like that to get a victory if you are the better team. Vandy didn't man up and play D after that no call and that's hy they loss.
The better team won period!!! It shouldn't take a fluke play like that to get a victory if you are the better team. Vandy didn't man up and play D after that no call and that's hy they loss.
Keep drinking that Kool-Aid. :mellow:
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