Must READ....Finebaum worst nightmare!

[absolutebama]

The following was posted by anther member on an earlier thread and I must have a consensus: Please comment on the quote>>>>the poster shall remain shameless( I mean name less )......FYI if the is a true statement then the SEC down and out!!


Finebaum is the 4th most influential person in the SEC, one of the top 12 Sports Radio Shows in the Country, and has been referred to by many as a "Coach Killer".

Once Coach Mike Sheila loses AGAIN to Auburn at Tuberville-Denny Stadium, look for Finebaum to turn up the heat and prove once again why his show is the place where Most Coaches are Fired!

The was

[absolutebama]

By the way if someone could list the top 3 most influential people in the conference please do so: Slive, Tubby, and the FINEBOOB is that the pecking order?

[absolutebama]

Nevermind its Lowder, Lowder, FineBOOB? I got it!

[AUChamps]

The following was posted by anther member on an earlier thread and I must have a consensus: Please comment on the quote>>>>the poster shall remain shameless( I mean name less )......FYI if the is a true statement then the SEC down and out!!


Finebaum is the 4th most influential person in the SEC, one of the top 12 Sports Radio Shows in the Country, and has been referred to by many as a "Coach Killer".

Once Coach Mike Sheila loses AGAIN to Auburn at Tuberville-Denny Stadium, look for Finebaum to turn up the heat and prove once again why his show is the place where Most Coaches are Fired!

The was
You can call me out on that; I'm kinda curious why you didn't want to say it was me that said it.

Yes I stand by it and Yes I believe Finebaum's show has a Lot of influence around the state of Alabama and the SEC as a whole.

[AUChamps]

Here's Finebaum's Column Today:

Shula spits on tradition at Alabama
Tuesday, September 05, 2006

Just moments after the electrifying introduction by athletics director Mal Moore, officially unveiling the $53 million addition to sparkling Bryant-Denny Stadium and featuring nearly 600 former Crimson Tide players, the public-address announcer shrieked at the top of his lungs: "This is Alabama football."

The record crowd of 92,138 went into a feeding frenzy and something told me Paul Bryant would have been proud of his old school. His former loyal assistant Moore had completed an incredible mission and cemented his own legacy with this wondrous addition.

Then, suddenly, the lights went out and the good times crashed and burned. Or so it seemed when Juwan Simpson arrogantly strutted on to the field to take his starting position as the Tide's weak-side linebacker.

From this vantage point, the night was over. All the good will had gone down the drain. This storied program, which has always stood for class and integrity, for winning championships the right way, had sunk to a new depth of despair. Moments earlier, the announcer had screamed, "This is Alabama football."

Wrong.

"This was Alabama football," he should have said.

I don't want to play the Bear card here ad nauseum, but Simpson had absolutely no business playing in this football game after his embarrassing arrest earlier this year for possession of a stolen handgun and marijuana.

If that wasn't bad enough, there was his equally mortifying demonstration of haughtiness a few weeks ago when asked what kind of penalty he deserved, and he said, "I'd give myself an ice cone."

He copped a plea with the Jefferson County court, and Mike Shula copped out in terms of dealing with him.

Oh sure, in Shula's fantasy world of keeping discipline in-house, perhaps Simpson really was denied that extra scoop of ice cream at pregame meal. However, in the real world of public perception, Shula blew it.

Keeping discipline is fine -- just act like you're in charge and apply some discipline. Remember Alabama's image is at stake, and parents of recruits are watching.

Alabama won the game on the field, albeit barely against a pedestrian team from the middle of nowhere. But it lost big-time around the world of college football. Something tells me folks in Knoxville and Auburn and other locales will get a big chuckle the next time some delusional Alabama fan accuses their programs of being a collection of thugs and misfits.

Perhaps the most interesting question is why Shula blinked in the blinding hot glare of his most closely watched call on discipline. The best guess is that he has run such a loose ship in the past that he may have feared a harsh sentence on Simpson might upset the chemistry and balance on this football team.

After all, this team is expected to experience some growing pains and if you come down too hard on the leader of the pack, perhaps you run the risk of causing serious problems. The question begs: Who is in charge here?

Besides, does Shula really want to risk internal problems now that he has taken the training wheels off his head-coaching career and is starting to cash a big-boy annual salary of $1.8 million?

Who knows? Shula hides behind the "we keep this in the family" hogwash that he continues to spew out every time a reporter gets up the nerve to even ask about crime and punishment.

It is difficult to make a bold statement that this myopic decision is going to haunt Shula. That is difficult to say because ultimately fans measure a head coach on the bottom line -- the won-lost record.

However, it just seemed odd that on a glorious night where Alabama's past seemed to intersect with its future -- with the sparkling additions at Bryant-Denny being put on public view, Mike Shula spat on the school's tradition with his foolish decision to let Juwan Simpson play in a football game.

Contact Paul Finebaum at:

finebaumnet.com@yahoo.com

His column appears Tuesdays and Saturdays in the Press-Register.

[Denny Chimes]

I addressed this earlier but received no response. Someone please post the police blotter count from all SEC schools during the off-season. I would like to look at the BIG picture and see if discipline has really run amuck at the Capstone.

Honestly, I was surprised Simpson started the game because of the black eye the program received due to his initial arrest. As a Bama booster and Shula supporter, I WILL give the head coach the benefit of the doubt because I don't know all the facts concerning Simpson's situation and neither does Paul Finebaum.

Are there other "breaches of punishment" in the four year reign of Mike Shula at Alabama? I can't recall any. I know two starters did not make the trip to Dallas for the bowl game due to undisclosed reasons. ESPN has made a big deal of the Simpson case as has Finebaum. I'm fascinated that one arrest of a starting linebacker and the subsequent story of his punishment is bigger news than Maurice Clarett's recent bizarre episode. Still bigger than all the arrests in Knoxville and bigger than all the suspensions at the barn. Alabama really does matter folks and EVERY move made by Shula is analyzed and critiqued to death, more so than any other SEC head coach. Shula had handled it with style and grace. If he pisses off a few sports writers in the process, all the better IMO.

[the Paradox]

I have not read much about DJ Hall's suspension. He was out Saturday and may not be allowed to play against Vandy. Oh, the double standard that slimebaum and the barners live by.

RTR

[WallyGoat]

"Then, suddenly, the lights went out and the good times crashed and burned. Or so it seemed when Juwan Simpson arrogantly strutted on to the field to take his starting position as the Tide's weak-side linebacker.

From this vantage point, the night was over. All the good will had gone down the drain. This storied program, which has always stood for class and integrity, for winning championships the right way, had sunk to a new depth of despair. Moments earlier, the announcer had screamed, "This is Alabama football."

Wrong.

"This was Alabama football," he should have said.

I don't want to play the Bear card here ad nauseum, but Simpson had absolutely no business playing in this football game after his embarrassing arrest earlier this year for possession of a stolen handgun and marijuana"

:brick: :dry: :wacko:
That was pathetic. He makes Simpson out to be the spawn of Satan. This Finescum idiot likes to spin stuff until it's dizzy and throws up. It wasn't nearly that bad. It wasn't like that at all.

You'd think by the way he wrote this crappy article, that Bama's football program was torn apart, ripped to shreds, never to be rebuilt again because of one kid's mistakes and the fact that he walked on the field. Not even friggin' close. Finebaum is a liar among liars. Did he forget what put UT in the spotlight in the preseason? It wasn't their stellar game against Cal, they hadn't played it yet. Take a guess. Alabama, and UT, aren't the only schools to have kids mess up. Didn't some AU linebackers get suspended for, oh let me see here.........

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[AUTiger94]

"Then, suddenly, the lights went out and the good times crashed and burned. Or so it seemed when Juwan Simpson arrogantly strutted on to the field to take his starting position as the Tide's weak-side linebacker.

From this vantage point, the night was over. All the good will had gone down the drain. This storied program, which has always stood for class and integrity, for winning championships the right way, had sunk to a new depth of despair. Moments earlier, the announcer had screamed, "This is Alabama football."

Wrong.

"This was Alabama football," he should have said.

I don't want to play the Bear card here ad nauseum, but Simpson had absolutely no business playing in this football game after his embarrassing arrest earlier this year for possession of a stolen handgun and marijuana"

:brick: :dry: :wacko:
That was pathetic. He makes Simpson out to be the spawn of Satan. This Finescum idiot likes to spin stuff until it's dizzy and throws up. It wasn't nearly that bad. It wasn't like that at all.

You'd think by the way he wrote this crappy article, that Bama's football program was torn apart, ripped to shreds, never to be rebuilt again because of one kid's mistakes and the fact that he walked on the field. Not even friggin' close. Finebaum is a liar among liars. Did he forget what put UT in the spotlight in the preseason? It wasn't their stellar game against Cal, they hadn't played it yet. Take a guess. Alabama, and UT, aren't the only schools to have kids mess up. Didn't some AU linebackers get suspended for, oh let me see here.........

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Yes we have 2 suspended, but they haven't played yet and they won't play this Saturday either. Therein lies the difference. I don't care how many community service awards Juwan won. He shouldn't have played Sat. On a side note, I hate Finebaum as much as you do.

[BamaDude06]

You can call me out on that; I'm kinda curious why you didn't want to say it was me that said it.

Yes I stand by it and Yes I believe Finebaum's show has a Lot of influence around the state of Alabama and the SEC as a whole.


Finebaum has been down on Shula since day 1. If he carried that much influence Coach Shula would have been gone a long time ago, which appears that won't happen thanks to his new contract.

[Denny Chimes]

Yes we have 2 suspended, but they haven't played yet and they won't play this Saturday either. Therein lies the difference. I don't care how many community service awards Juwan won. He shouldn't have played Sat. On a side note, I hate Finebaum as much as you do.
Why shouldn't he have played? Do you have inside information we don't?

[AUChamps]

For a Reality Check, Listen to Finebaum right now:

http://www.al.com/finebaum/audio/index.ssf

Jim from Tuscaloosa is on right now. And he's disowning 'Bama!

[Volnooga]

Why shouldn't he have played? Do you have inside information we don't?

Um... Because he was arrested?

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

For a Reality Check, Listen to Finebaum right now:

http://www.al.com/finebaum/audio/index.ssf

Jim from Tuscaloosa is on right now. And he's disowning 'Bama!
Sorry, I just ate. And I'd like to keep my lunch down. Finebaum nauseates me.

[azamugg]

Finebaum is a fraud, stirring up s&*%t..........we all know Simpson is a GRADUATE w/a criminal justice major, the weed wasnt his, urine test proved it,..............this situation was very unique and thusly treated as such ..................Simpson was punished outside of being suspended and after the fact I bet he would have taken the suspension (brutal I heard)

why did Fagbaum fail to mention our greatest offensive threat, DJ HALL, being suspended?????????????????

Finebaum is trying to make men like women who faun over soap operas, don't be a bitch and fall into his traps people

[AUChamps]

Finebaum is a fraud, stirring up s&*%t..........we all know Simpson is a GRADUATE w/a criminal justice major, the weed wasnt his, urine test proved it,..............this situation was very unique and thusly treated as such ..................Simpson was punished outside of being suspended and after the fact I bet he would have taken the suspension (brutal I heard)

why did Fagbaum fail to mention our greatest offensive threat, DJ HALL, being suspended?????????????????

Finebaum is trying to make men like women who faun over soap operas, don't be a bitch and fall into his traps people
And if you knew anything, you'd know Jim from Tuscaloosa is one of the BIGGEST 'Bama supporters around. Oh, just wait till Shane calls in later today; I can't wait to hear what he's gonna say about the ethical state of Alabama Football.

[BamaDude06]

"Jim" dis-owns Bama every week.

[AUTiger94]

And if you knew anything, you'd know Jim from Tuscaloosa is one of the BIGGEST 'Bama supporters around. Oh, just wait till Shane calls in later today; I can't wait to hear what he's gonna say about the ethical state of Alabama Football.
Damn I'm glad I am not subjected to Finebaum's Radio show here in the ATL. I'd rather listen to Buck Belue's Homeristic crap than Finebaum. On a seperate note, Juwan must have a monster bottle of golden seal root! :dry:

[absolutebama]

Checking in on the thread.....Just wanted to mention that I post on other sites.....anyway this is the only place that I have ever heard anyone give any type of validity to FineBOOB....since the other sites are paid for the subscribers have the ability to place an ignore button if you will on anyone who post unwant info or flames etc. it is common knowledge that NOBODY gives a crap what FINEBOOB says .....he plays devil's advocate to every story and has ZERO credibility.....end o' story!

Please continue the onslaught of ridicule and pent up aggression against FINEBOOB....he definitely deserves it>>>>>>>>>

[Noah.Dreams]

Finebaum hasn't pretended to be a journalist for 25 years. You guys have stumbled upon a shock jock that knows how to play to a crowd's sentiments with logic and then becomes a pharisee the moment he can create any controversy that will line his pockets with listeners.

Since I'm a crimson dyed in the wool Alabama alum, please bear with me for moment while I pass along a brief history lesson. Back in the mid 80s, Finebaum would feast daily on Ray Perkins. And who did he hold up as the shining example of the decade... the mastermind of the winningest SEC program of the 80s, Pat Dye.

That is until Ramsay pulled the wheels off Auburn's bandwagon and then Finebaum was the first to throw Dye under the donkey cart.

Don't let yourself be so easily amused with Finebaum's spin of the day that you take it to heart. In Finebaum's world, no one deserves a break but the messenger.

[AUChamps]

Finebaum hasn't pretended to be a journalist for 25 years. You guys have stumbled upon a shock jock that knows how to play to a crowd's sentiments with logic and then becomes a pharisee the moment he can create any controversy that will line his pockets with listeners.

Since I'm a crimson dyed in the wool Alabama alum, please pause for a brief moment while I give you a history lesson. Back in the mid 80s, Finebaum would feast daily on Ray Perkins. And who did he hold up as the shining example of the decade... the mastermind of the winningest SEC program of the 80s, Pat Dye.

That is until Ramsay pulled the wheels off Auburn's bandwagon and then Finebaum was the first to throw Dye under the donkey cart.

Don't let yourself be so easily amused with Finebaum's spin of the day that you take it to heart. In Finebaum's world, no one deserves a break but the messenger.
No offense, but Ray Perkins was one of the Biggest Jerks to coach in College Football. The quality that he put out on the fields was lackluster, particularly when compared not just to Bear Bryant, but even Bill Curry and Gene Stallings. Perkins was not a quality coach, on or off the field, and I think Alabama fans would do best to not give him much credit; similar to the way many Auburn fans(including myself) view Terry "Buster Brown" Bowden's Coaching Tenure on the Plains.

[Denny Chimes]

No offense, but Ray Perkins was one of the Biggest Jerks to coach in College Football. The quality that he put out on the fields was lackluster, particularly when compared not just to Bear Bryant, but even Bill Curry and Gene Stallings. Perkins was not a quality coach, on or off the field, and I think Alabama fans would do best to not give him much credit; similar to the way many Auburn fans(including myself) view Terry "Buster Brown" Bowden's Coaching Tenure on the Plains.
No offense, but Bama fans will judge our own coaches thank you very much. I think barn fans would do best to prepare for SACS.

[WDavE]

No offense, but Bama fans will judge our own coaches thank you very much. I think barn fans would do best to prepare for SACS.


Maybe just maybe, if we all live long enough. We might find out why D.J Hall really went home over the summer and why he was held out of the first game.

SACS= Some Alabamains Can't See!
Most of the board looks prepared....

[the Paradox]

http://mb23.scout.com/falabamafans48326frm1.showMessage?topicID=102987.t opic

I hate that Cecil has not run this yet, especially after what Finebaum did to CMS in today's article... but, just so everyone is clear, Juwan cleaned up inmate $hit and prepared their food for about 2 weeks down at the Tuscaloosa County Jail under the watchful eye of Chief Taggart. Juwan also worked several hours at the Stallings RISE center helping the unfortunate kids. I can tell you that our jail in Tuscaloosa County houses some very dangerous and unpleasant folks. Working there and doing what they made Juwan do is much worse than your coach telling you to sit on the bench, believe me. We have murderers, pedophiles, rapists, arsonists and other undesirables in a maximum security wing. You would not want to be near these people, believe me. You also would not want to clean up their vomit, piss and $hit and blood.

There you go experts. Continue your trashing of Shula.

RTR

[WallyGoat]

http://mb23.scout.com/falabamafans48326frm1.showMessage?topicID=102987.t opic

I hate that Cecil has not run this yet, especially after what Finebaum did to CMS in today's article... but, just so everyone is clear, Juwan cleaned up inmate $hit and prepared their food for about 2 weeks down at the Tuscaloosa County Jail under the watchful eye of Chief Taggart. Juwan also worked several hours at the Stallings RISE center helping the unfortunate kids. I can tell you that our jail in Tuscaloosa County houses some very dangerous and unpleasant folks. Working there and doing what they made Juwan do is much worse than your coach telling you to sit on the bench, believe me. We have murderers, pedophiles, rapists, arsonists and other undesirables in a maximum security wing. You would not want to be near these people, believe me. You also would not want to clean up their vomit, piss and $hit and blood.

There you go experts. Continue your criticism of Shula.

RTR

Agreed. I believe that the punishment fit the crime, and then some.

[absolutebama]

If a man any man is held accountable for his/her actions in due accordance with the law and meets those requirements set for in a court of law said individual is bound to that the instrument used determine the punishment(s).........

Juwan Simpson had his day, paid his dues and that's that........it is a moot point beyond that.........antagonist report to their own accuser's .........LEAVE JUWAN ALONE......he played ( damn well.......he is a leader.........he lead his team......now everyone go put their kids to bed and tell'em to learn from their mistakes.
RTR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR>>>>>>>>>>>

[Denny Chimes]

Maybe just maybe, if we all live long enough. We might find out why D.J Hall really went home over the summer and why he was held out of the first game.

SACS= Some Alabamains Can't See!
Most of the board looks prepared....
Ankle injury Dave. Shula said so himself. As for the summer, I heard he went back home to work. Like working to support his family Dave.

Is this the best you guys have other than "Fear the Thumb?" :whistle:

[WallyGoat]

Ankle injury Dave. Shula said so himself. As for the summer, I heard he went back home to work. Like working to support his family Dave.

Is this the best you guys have other than "Fear the Thumb?" :whistle:

LOL! :laugh: I heard this a while back. DJ Hall asked to be dismissed to go home to address family issues. It had nothing to do with football.

[absolutebama]

WDavE,

Let me say this, I have meet DJ and his family it was last year after the Tennessee game.....they are very proud of their son and very supportive of his commitment to play football at Alabama.

DJ is a very polite young man almost timid it seemed kinda uncomfortable with the spotlight. He held himself well and was extremely courteous......

With that said the chances of him having to explain himself to you is ZERO....I will go so far as to say that DJ could have took time out of whatever it was he was doing to shake your hand and said hello given the circumstance........please don't go fishing in a pond full of sh^t!

[timNem]

I got this from Scout.com. Why would Simpson be punished more? He's been cleared that the pot wasn't his, he did what he was supposed to do as far as checking to see if the gun was hot. Unless he should be punished for one game for a driving violation, Shula did the right thing. I believe Shula's punishment was for Juwan to learn that he cannot put himself into situations like that, such as, beware of who you hang with. The easiest thing Shula could have done was to suspend him so he could keep the vermon like Finebum from sucking his blood out. Finebum is that little bald-headed mosquito that flies around Bama and Auburn, living off their blood.




I hate that Cecil has not run this yet, especially after what Finebaum did to CMS in today's article... but, just so everyone is clear, Juwan cleaned up inmate $hit and prepared their food for about 2 weeks down at the Tuscaloosa County Jail under the watchful eye of Chief Taggart. Juwan also worked several hours at the Stallings RISE center helping the unfortunate kids. I can tell you that our jail in Tuscaloosa County houses some very dangerous and unpleasant folks. Working there and doing what they made Juwan do is much worse than your coach telling you to sit on the bench, believe me. We have murderers, pedophiles, rapists, arsonists and other undesirables in a maximum security wing. You would not want to be near these people, believe me. You also would not want to clean up their vomit, piss and $hit and blood.

Now, what would be the "harder" or "tougher" decision for Mike Shula? Suspending Juwan like the media demanded? Or, punishing him in a more productive way both for him and the community and not disclosing it to the media.... knowing you're gonna get a bloodbath of criticism in return?

For those on here who are saying CMS took the "easy" road, think again.

[timNem]

No offense, but Ray Perkins was one of the Biggest Jerks to coach in College Football. The quality that he put out on the fields was lackluster, particularly when compared not just to Bear Bryant, but even Bill Curry and Gene Stallings. Perkins was not a quality coach, on or off the field, and I think Alabama fans would do best to not give him much credit; similar to the way many Auburn fans(including myself) view Terry "Buster Brown" Bowden's Coaching Tenure on the Plains.I agree. He could have been a good OC. You could have the greatest football mind in the world but that doesn't mean that you will be a good Head Coach. Mike Dubose was a great assistant coach, but we seen what happened to him. It's become obvious that Phil Fulmer isn't the glue that holds UT together, maybe Cutcliffe won't stab him in the back like Phil did to Majors.

[WDavE]

http://mb23.scout.com/falabamafans48326frm1.showMessage?topicID=102987.t opic

I hate that Cecil has not run this yet, especially after what Finebaum did to CMS in today's article... but, just so everyone is clear, Juwan cleaned up inmate $hit and prepared their food for about 2 weeks down at the Tuscaloosa County Jail under the watchful eye of Chief Taggart. Juwan also worked several hours at the Stallings RISE center helping the unfortunate kids. I can tell you that our jail in Tuscaloosa County houses some very dangerous and unpleasant folks. Working there and doing what they made Juwan do is much worse than your coach telling you to sit on the bench, believe me. We have murderers, pedophiles, rapists, arsonists and other undesirables in a maximum security wing. You would not want to be near these people, believe me. You also would not want to clean up their vomit, piss and $hit and blood.

There you go experts. Continue your trashing of Shula.

RTR

Here is the problem....
That was not part of any of Shula's punishment for Simpson... We all know that he was *ordered* to perform community service as part of his plea bargain. A plea bargain is that you acknowledge a crime and ask for the mercy of the court. Alot of pleas are not because your guilty but because it's the easiest way out for both sides.

I don't see where this has anything to do with Shula's "discipline".

Nice try though.....

[Wizard of Orange]

I'm not familiar with Fennebaum!? ( apparently he's not on the radio in SC), but reading this thread wondered how he stood on the Tuberville controversy a couple of years back. Anyone know?

Also, Fulmer is indeed the glue that holds UT's program together. In fact, that is his main role IMO. He's keeping Chavis happy, Cutcliffe's list of coaches that he'd work for is a short one, he has addressed off field issues as they've come along ( people tend to think since players get in trouble the coach has lost control, but how a guy responds is the issue - see Ontario Smith, James Banks, B. Schaefer, to name a few, is how he should be judged.), generally keeping the program out of trouble with NCAA, solid community work, good graduation rates ( other than Juniors jumping to the Pros), consistently top recruiting classes -

He shouldn't have to be the OC or DC. He running the "Program" and as far as I can tell is doing quite well, thank you very much.

To the point being discussed, Shula may have indeed taken proper measures - not knowing details prevents any of us from truly determining what the appropriate action is. Certainly,traffic violations should not get you tossed off of the team.

[WDavE]

WDavE,

Let me say this, I have meet DJ and his family it was last year after the Tennessee game.....they are very proud of their son and very supportive of his commitment to play football at Alabama.

DJ is a very polite young man almost timid it seemed kinda uncomfortable with the spotlight. He held himself well and was extremely courteous......

With that said the chances of him having to explain himself to you is ZERO....I will go so far as to say that DJ could have took time out of whatever it was he was doing to shake your hand and said hello given the circumstance........please don't go fishing in a pond full of sh^t!

No! He doesn't have to explain anything to me... When the truth does finally come out though you can apologize to me via e-mail.....

By the way, originally Hall was supposedly injured before the Hawaii game and that was the reason given for him not playing. Come to find out he was suspended by Shula. He was suspended for the Cotton Bowl. He went home for the entire summer right after the bowl.

My only question now is how much kool-aid do you drink?

[Razorbabe]

Let's hope Finebaum never has to find work broadcasting anywhere in the Big 12, where arrest records are not only overlooked but encouraged and where his sanctimonious overreaction would get him busted down to working pee-wee football in Stillwater.

[the Paradox]

Here is the problem....
That was not part of any of Shula's punishment for Simpson... We all know that he was *ordered* to perform community service as part of his plea bargain. A plea bargain is that you acknowledge a crime and ask for the mercy of the court. Alot of pleas are not because your guilty but because it's the easiest way out for both sides.

I don't see where this has anything to do with Shula's "discipline".

Nice try though.....
Continue to act as if you are an insider to everything Alabama.


RTR

[absolutebama]

Poor DAVE,

I'm sure you can surmise that Mike Shula has no intentions of allowing the media to be in the know regarding his intentions....much like NFL rosters are utilized. Mike Shula didn't come to BAMA as a good ol'boy as a player or as a coach. His football philosophy comes from the pro's.....(Remember his father is Don Shula).....every thing and I mean everything points towards BAMA's program being run on that level....from top to bottom....See NICK SABAN(LSU) for an example....NFL coach comes to college runs the program like a pro team....never to high or to low but always on task.......!

Tuberville does the same thing only he is forced to do it from a different standpoint and with a smartass demeanor to make himself feel good.

YOU SEE IN THE EYES OF TOMMY BOY HE IS ON TOP OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW AND MAYBE HE SHOULD BE HIS TEAM IS TALENTED HIS COACHING STAFF IS CONSTANTLY BETTERING THEMSELVES BY USING ALBARN AS A STEPPING STONE FOR GROWTH AND BETTER OPPORTUNITIES.....ALL THOSE ARE SIGNS OF A SUCCESSFUL LEADER....NOW IF COACH TOMMY WOULD JUST GET HIMSELF A STATUE, A LAUNDROMANT, OR STREET SOMEWHERE IN GEORGIA ( I MEAN ALABAMA, WHATEVER) HE CAN LEAVE WITH HIS HEAD HELD HIGH!!

RTR!!!!!!!!!!

[AUChamps]

I'm not familiar with Fennebaum!? ( apparently he's not on the radio in SC), but reading this thread wondered how he stood on the Tuberville controversy a couple of years back. Anyone know?

Also, Fulmer is indeed the glue that holds UT's program together. In fact, that is his main role IMO. He's keeping Chavis happy, Cutcliffe's list of coaches that he'd work for is a short one, he has addressed off field issues as they've come along ( people tend to think since players get in trouble the coach has lost control, but how a guy responds is the issue - see Ontario Smith, James Banks, B. Schaefer, to name a few, is how he should be judged.), generally keeping the program out of trouble with NCAA, solid community work, good graduation rates ( other than Juniors jumping to the Pros), consistently top recruiting classes -

He shouldn't have to be the OC or DC. He running the "Program" and as far as I can tell is doing quite well, thank you very much.

To the point being discussed, Shula may have indeed taken proper measures - not knowing details prevents any of us from truly determining what the appropriate action is. Certainly,traffic violations should not get you tossed off of the team.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Finebaum

and

http://www.al.com/finebaum/audio/index.ssf

^It streams live between 3 PM EST and 8 PM EST.

[Noah.Dreams]

No offense, but Ray Perkins was one of the Biggest Jerks to coach in College Football. The quality that he put out on the fields was lackluster, particularly when compared not just to Bear Bryant, but even Bill Curry and Gene Stallings. Perkins was not a quality coach, on or off the field, and I think Alabama fans would do best to not give him much credit; similar to the way many Auburn fans(including myself) view Terry "Buster Brown" Bowden's Coaching Tenure on the Plains.
In terms of being the consumate jerk, I believe you've confused Ray Perkins with Bill Curry. Check with someone that lived in Tuscaloosa and get back to me, ok?

[WDavE]

Poor DAVE,

I'm sure you can surmise that Mike Shula has no intentions of allowing the media to be in the know regarding his intentions....much like NFL rosters are utilized. Mike Shula didn't come to BAMA as a good ol'boy as a player or as a coach. His football philosophy comes from the pro's.....(Remember his father is Don Shula).....every thing and I mean everything points towards BAMA's program being run on that level....from top to bottom....See NICK SABAN(LSU) for an example....NFL coach comes to college runs the program like a pro team....never to high or to low but always on task.......!

Tuberville does the same thing only he is forced to do it from a different standpoint and with a smartass demeanor to make himself feel good.

YOU SEE IN THE EYES OF TOMMY BOY HE IS ON TOP OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW AND MAYBE HE SHOULD BE HIS TEAM IS TALENTED HIS COACHING STAFF IS CONSTANTLY BETTERING THEMSELVES BY USING ALBARN AS A STEPPING STONE FOR GROWTH AND BETTER OPPORTUNITIES.....ALL THOSE ARE SIGNS OF A SUCCESSFUL LEADER....NOW IF COACH TOMMY WOULD JUST GET HIMSELF A STATUE, A LAUNDROMANT, OR STREET SOMEWHERE IN GEORGIA ( I MEAN ALABAMA, WHATEVER) HE CAN LEAVE WITH HIS HEAD HELD HIGH!!

RTR!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah! Nice skirting of the topic.

You did ramble on about Shula's background in the pros. He was a real barn burner (pun intended) as an OC in the pros. Was Don his dad? Wow! Your really in touch....

Could you explain the statement about CTT being forced and having a different demeanor when deciding punishment to players. That was kind of confusing.

Does the media or state require us to report problems and not you? Mack Brown at Texas just suspended two starters for the same exact reasons Simpson was arrested for. I know! He has no pro background nor is Shula his last name.

Your last paragraph made me laugh to some degree. I think the opposite or what you wrote. I find it funny that no other team wants any of your coaching staff and yet you don't wonder why! I'm thinking " last stop" in lieu of stepping stone

One more thing! Caps means that you are shouting. Being louder will not win an argument with 99% of the posters here and shows weakness. Weakness is defined by either a poor understanding of the subject itself, poor education or even trying to defend a undefendable position to begin with. The quickest way to spot a sure sign of weakness is when posters revert to name calling or even the use of cuss words to get their point across. I am not impressed by either.

Just to further along this topic line and to point out facts about an earlier post.


County Sherriff's -- not city police chiefs -- run county jails. The validity of an earlier post by an insider seems quite suspect don't you think...

[AUTiger94]

Yeah! Nice skirting of the topic.

You did ramble on about Shula's background in the pros. He was a real barn burner (pun intended) as an OC in the pros. Was Don his dad? Wow! Your really in touch....

Could you explain the statement about CTT being forced and having a different demeanor when deciding punishment to players. That was kind of confusing.

Does the media or state require us to report problems and not you? Mack Brown at Texas just suspended two starters for the same exact reasons Simpson was arrested for. I know! He has no pro background nor is Shula his last name.

Your last paragraph made me laugh to some degree. I think the opposite or what you wrote. I find it funny that no other team wants any of your coaching staff and yet you don't wonder why! I'm thinking " last stop" in lieu of stepping stone

One more thing! Caps means that you are shouting. Being louder will not win an argument with 99% of the posters here and shows weakness. Weakness is defined by either a poor understanding of the subject itself, poor education or even trying to defend a undefendable position to begin with. The quickest way to spot a sure sign of weakness is when posters revert to name calling or even the use of cuss words to get their point across. I am not impressed by either.

Just to further along this topic line and to point out facts about an earlier post.


County Sherriff's -- not city police chiefs -- run county jails. The validity of an earlier post by an insider seems quite suspect don't you think...
WDave that has to be the post of the day! Someone give this guy rep. I unfortunately am not allowed to give him any more until I spread the wealth. "Last Stop" is right it seems for head coaches too. We on the other hand take it as a compliment when our assistant coaches use us a stepping stone, particularly when they get head coaching jobs.

[absolutebama]

Clarifying Tommy boy statement: I too would agree with ya'll that he has done well and his coaches bettering themselves is attribute to his leadership through a trying time....However, for Tommy his smile is simply chagrin....although he were's it well.

He should get the hell out of town....while the gettin' is good!

RTR

[timNem]

I'm not familiar with Fennebaum!? ( apparently he's not on the radio in SC), but reading this thread wondered how he stood on the Tuberville controversy a couple of years back. Anyone know?

Also, Fulmer is indeed the glue that holds UT's program together. In fact, that is his main role IMO. He's keeping Chavis happy, Cutcliffe's list of coaches that he'd work for is a short one, he has addressed off field issues as they've come along ( people tend to think since players get in trouble the coach has lost control, but how a guy responds is the issue - see Ontario Smith, James Banks, B. Schaefer, to name a few, is how he should be judged.), generally keeping the program out of trouble with NCAA, solid community work, good graduation rates ( other than Juniors jumping to the Pros), consistently top recruiting classes -

He shouldn't have to be the OC or DC. He running the "Program" and as far as I can tell is doing quite well, thank you very much.

To the point being discussed, Shula may have indeed taken proper measures - not knowing details prevents any of us from truly determining what the appropriate action is. Certainly,traffic violations should not get you tossed off of the team.Finebaum is a UT graduate

[WDavE]

I don't listen to Finebaum for several reasons..

1. He is rarely right ....
2. He changes sides and also which side he is attacking day to day...

I think of him as a Sports Radio Jerry Springer....

[AUChamps]

I don't listen to Finebaum for several reasons..

1. He is rarely right ....
2. He changes sides and also which side he is attacking day to day...

I think of him as a Sports Radio Jerry Springer....
Well, it'd get kinda boring if he just stuck to 1 position day-to-day. Btw, sounds like the latest with Simpson is that very few ppl are talking about the girl that was in the car with him. Now, unlike the Texas situation where everyone in the car was arrested, this girl apparently was not charged at all. I think it'd be very interesting to find out why/how she managed to get off completely scott-free and what kind of finanical/political pull her family has....

[Wizard of Orange]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Finebaum

and

http://www.al.com/finebaum/audio/index.ssf

^It streams live between 3 PM EST and 8 PM EST.

I guess, thanks, but "no, thanks" - after reading all the commentary on this guy, I don't know that its worth it, AUCh. Do you like him?

[Wizard of Orange]

Finebaum is a UT graduate

R U serious? :ohmy:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I guess, thanks, but "no, thanks" - after reading all the commentary on this guy, I don't know that its worth it, AUCh. Do you like him?
As much as he's being promoting him, I believe he's his brother. :laugh:

:joke:

[AUTiger94]

I guess, thanks, but "no, thanks" - after reading all the commentary on this guy, I don't know that its worth it, AUCh. Do you like him?
If he does, he hasn't been an Auburn fan very long! Finebaum is a tool!

[AUFootball24]

A negative pee test means nothing. With a good metabolism 3 days will have you clean. I used the same excuse when I was caught and guess what...i tested negative. It wasn't his..yeah right...

[azamugg]

A negative pee test means nothing. With a good metabolism 3 days will have you clean. I used the same excuse when I was caught and guess what...i tested negative. It wasn't his..yeah right...

first off you're wrong about THC and how long it stays in your system

secondly, I understand our rivalry and sometimes there are issues on either side we can rag each other about but come on, you gotta admit, Shula has character, integrity and class and above all is equitable, now Im still giving him a passing grade on coaching but he does have alot of room to improve in that department

[AUTiger94]

first off you're wrong about THC and how long it stays in your system

secondly, I understand our rivalry and sometimes there are issues on either side we can rag each other about but come on, you gotta admit, Shula has character, integrity and class and above all is equitable, now Im still giving him a passing grade on coaching but he does have alot of room to improve in that department
Golden Seal Root- GNC $3.95 a bottle! :whistle:

[Jay Bee]

If a man any man is held accountable for his/her actions in due accordance with the law and meets those requirements set for in a court of law said individual is bound to that the instrument used determine the punishment(s).........

Juwan Simpson had his day, paid his dues and that's that........it is a moot point beyond that.........antagonist report to their own accuser's .........LEAVE JUWAN ALONE......he played ( damn well.......he is a leader.........he lead his team......now everyone go put their kids to bed and tell'em to learn from their mistakes.
RTR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR>>>>>>>>>>>>RTR>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah, I love his myspace page. Seems like a nice, modest guy to me
www.myspace.com/41420785


Check out his salary... Looks like bammy still pays well >$250,000.. :ohmy:

WDE!
jb

[AUChamps]

BTW, it's not just Paul Finebaum that's gone off on Shula.

Look at what Tony Barnhart of the AJC wrote:

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2006/09/06/shula_sets_poor.html

At least it shows that those outside of the "Alabama Bubble" are willing to call a spade a spade.

[azamugg]

BTW, it's not just Paul Finebaum that's gone off on Shula.

Look at what Tony Barnhart of the AJC wrote:

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfb/entries/2006/09/06/shula_sets_poor.html

At least it shows that those outside of the "Alabama Bubble" are willing to call a spade a spade.

silly post and regardless of bias, read on…….a persons character is of most importance and to slander two in one article w/out having done the research other than just knowing he didnt play is wreckless and frankly litigatable

[Denny Chimes]

Much ado about nothing. Let the barners run their mouths.

When does the SACS investigation begin?

[WDavE]

Much ado about nothing. Let the barners run their mouths.

When does the SACS investigation begin?

For some strange reason.... I hope that your holding your breath as you wait....

[Denny Chimes]

For some strange reason.... I hope that your holding your breath as you wait....
You mean you're holding your breath, right? Another benefit of a proper education my friend.

[WarEagler]

I also heard somewhere that Finebaum was recruited to play quarterback at UT but couldn't because of injuries. Anyone know about this?

[AUChamps]

I also heard somewhere that Finebaum was recruited to play quarterback at UT but couldn't because of injuries. Anyone know about this?
It's true. He was gonna be recruited but messed up his leg during his senior year of HS.

[WDavE]

You mean you're holding your breath, right? Another benefit of a proper education my friend.

I have two problems to deal with now....

1. Your not holding your breath..
2. You called me your friend .....
In essence, I'm looking out for number one without somehow stepping in number two.

[azamugg]

I also heard somewhere that Finebaum was recruited to play quarterback at UT but couldn't because of injuries. Anyone know about this?

that goob isnt athletic enough to play tiddly winks.............I'd bet $1,000 that is untrue!!

[Denny Chimes]

I have two problems to deal with now....

1. Your not holding your breath..
2. You called me your friend .....
In essence, I'm looking out for number one without somehow stepping in number two.

LOL! Dave, don't worry. I would definitely pee on you if you were on fire! That's what friends are for! :laugh:

I respect your opinions (and your use of the ....). You're kind of like my favorite punching bag on here. :box:

[WDavE]

LOL! Dave, don't worry. I would definitely pee on you if you were on fire! That's what friends are for! :laugh:

I respect your opinions (and your use of the ....). You're kind of like my favorite punching bag on here. :box:

Thats fair enough... I use you as stress relief. Nothing breaks up one of my stressful days as much as reading your posts.

[azamugg]

Thats fair enough... I use you as stress relief. Nothing breaks up one of my stressful days as much as reading your posts.

this aint a boy scout troop meeting so quit singing Cumbaya you bunch of sissies :laugh:

[AUTiger94]

this aint a boy scout troop meeting so quit singing Cumbaya you bunch of sissies :laugh:
Yeah! Get a room why don't ya! :laugh: