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Neo
08-28-2006, 07:43 AM
http://www.sectalk.com/boards/images/logos/Mississippi_St.gifConference may enforce ban on noise makers; USC receivers enter week banged up.


By: Joseph Person
www.thestate.com


While Mississippi State fans view their cowbells as a storied school tradition, visiting teams to Davis Wade Stadium see them as a clanging symbol of noise pollution.

As USC prepares to make its first trip to Starkville in five years, SEC officials will meet this week to discuss how to enforce its ban on artificial noisemakers. With the NCAA getting rid of its seldom-used crowd noise rule, SEC commissioner Mike Slive will determine how the conference will handle crowd control.

Slive told the Jackson Clarion Ledger in Sunday’s editions that he is “looking at what our options are, and we’ll make a decision” before Thursday’s game.

The issue dates to 1975 when the conference first banned the cowbells following a complaint by Auburn coach Shug Jordan. The rule was mostly ignored until 2002 when the SEC leaned on Mississippi State to begin enforcing it.

But with the NCAA pulling its rule, there is no threat of a 5-yard penalty or a loss of timeout.

USC coach Steve Spurrier hopes the cowbells never make it past the Wade Stadium gates.

“The SEC, I think, has mentioned that several times, that the fans that are trying to bring them in are going to have to turn them over to security people there,” Spurrier said. “So we can’t worry about the cowboys. We’re worried about Mississippi State.”

Gamecocks safety Chris Hampton, whose Memphis hometown is about three hours from Starkville, is familiar with the cowbells.

“I heard they’re not supposed to do it,” Hampton said. “But I heard it’s real loud.”

Thursday night lights. Cowbells aside, Spurrier said he likes the idea of opening the season on a Thursday. The Gamecocks beat Central Florida 24-15 last year in a nationally televised, ESPN game that was Spurrier’s USC debut.

“It was certainly worth the tradeoff to be opening college football Thursday night on national TV,” he said. “Hopefully, that has helped our recruiting a little bit.”

Spurrier said he believes ESPN has agreed to televise a USC-N.C. State Thursday night matchup to kick off the 2008 season. The two schools are expected to play a home-and-home series in ‘08 and ‘09, but the deal has not been finalized.

USC will play another Thursday night game this year when Auburn visits Williams-Brice Stadium on Sept. 28.

On the receiving end. USC’s receiving corps, thought to be one of the team’s deepest positions, came out of preseason camp a little banged up. All-SEC pick Sidney Rice is nursing a strained left shoulder that he hurt during a blocking drill two weeks ago.

Syvelle Newton admits he is a step slower since coming back from season-ending Achilles surgery. Also, backup receivers Mike West (hamstring) and Moe Brown (ankle) are less than 100 percent and questionable for Thursday’s game.

But Rice said his status is certain. Despite skipping all contact work this week, Rice said he would be ready for the Bulldogs.

“We’re not going to do too much contact drills, anyway. So I should be well rested for Thursday,” he said. “I’m not going to let it bother me.”

Among the healthy receivers, Spurrier praised the recent play of O.J. Murdock. The speedster from Tampa, Fla., was redshirted last season.

Opening acts. USC is 12-0 when opening the season on a day other than Saturday, outscoring the opposition 270-27 in those dozen games. Spurrier is 15-1 in season openers, the lone defeat coming in Columbia in 1989 when his final Duke team fell to USC 27-21.

The Gamecocks have not done so well when starting the season away from home, going just 6-18 in their previous road openers.

Reach Person at (803) 771-8496.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/colleges/university_of_south_carolina/15378089.htm

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 08:41 AM
The same thing happens every year. You're not going to take our cowbells, sorry. Unless the SEC is willing to pay their own people to stand at our gates you're not going to stop it. It is amazing how a team with such little tradition like MSU is getting one of its few traditions "stopped". Either way I'm not worried. Every year they say the same thing.

Neo
08-28-2006, 10:51 AM
The same thing happens every year. You're not going to take our cowbells, sorry. Unless the SEC is willing to pay their own people to stand at our gates you're not going to stop it. It is amazing how a team with such little tradition like MSU is getting one of its few traditions "stopped". Either way I'm not worried. Every year they say the same thing.



Then don't bring them. Geez....Can't play by the rules can you? :unsure:

RW13
08-28-2006, 11:12 AM
I like the cowbells, what's the big deal???

blues_cap
08-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Then don't bring them. Geez....Can't play by the rules can you? :unsure:

that is like telling people not to take whiskey into the stadium...geez, usce cant play by the rules either.

Neo
08-28-2006, 11:19 AM
I like the cowbells, what's the big deal???


They are exceptionally LOUD and the SEC has a rule against artificial noise makers. Picture 15K people ringing those stupid cowbells. Just picture it...... :wacko:

Neo
08-28-2006, 11:20 AM
usce cant play by the rules either.

What's that supposed to mean? Have you ever been to Williams Brice? :whistle:

blues_cap
08-28-2006, 11:23 AM
What's that supposed to mean? Have you ever been to Williams Brice? :whistle:

it was sarcasm on the little "cant play by the rules" whine.....whiskey isnt supposed to be taken into the stadium and has probably caused more harm than any cowbell....do people all across the country take whiskey in the stadium??

btw, artificial noise maker is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard...what the hell to they think a tuba is??

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 01:20 PM
If you want to get rid of our cowbells then fine, quit having a sqwuaking chicken over the loud speaker at ya'lls game, or tell Tennessee they can't play rocky top, or Alabama they can't have the elephant squeal.

Denny Chimes
08-28-2006, 01:27 PM
If you want to get rid of our cowbells then fine, quit having a sqwuaking chicken over the loud speaker at ya'lls game, or tell Tennessee they can't play rocky top, or Alabama they can't have the elephant squeal.
Apples and awranges. Those cowbells are ridiculous and to my knowledge, have never "rallied" the team to victory. I know MSU is an ag school but I just don't get advertising it like that. A cowbell? Come on...
And a crowd of 15K at MSU is over-reaching don't you think? Just basing it on what I saw last year.

Bongo
08-28-2006, 01:45 PM
I agree with Denny. It's not the same. Besides, I thought you guys were the MSU bulldogs. Never seen a dog with a cowbell. How about you guys get come barking going on over your loudspeaker and we're all even.

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 04:02 PM
Don't speak for what you know nothing of Denny. The cowbell tradition began when way back in the 20's during an Ole Miss/MSU game in Starkville a jersey cow walked out onto the middle of the field wearing a cowbell. At the time the cow walked out MSU was losing the game but after the minor distraction MSU rallied to win the game. Ever since then students have brought cowbells to the games. We don't have many traditions, don't even think of messin with this one.

DELTOR
08-28-2006, 04:06 PM
If you want to get rid of our cowbells then fine, quit having a sqwuaking chicken over the loud speaker at ya'lls game, or tell Tennessee they can't play rocky top, or Alabama they can't have the elephant squeal.
Yes, but those "artificial noisemakers" are not being played during a play. They come after a good play or touchdown, etc.

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 04:24 PM
Grow up and quit crying about something that will never change. Let the boy's on the field play ball Aug. 31 is almost here.

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 04:31 PM
I promise you I will have my bell there and will be ringing it with pride the whole game.

Denny Chimes
08-28-2006, 04:45 PM
Don't speak for what you know nothing of Denny. The cowbell tradition began when way back in the 20's during an Ole Miss/MSU game in Starkville a jersey cow walked out onto the middle of the field wearing a cowbell. At the time the cow walked out MSU was losing the game but after the minor distraction MSU rallied to win the game. Ever since then students have brought cowbells to the games. We don't have many traditions, don't even think of messin with this one.
SVD, tell me there's more to it than that. Reminds of the other ag school in the conference, the one that had an eagle (more likely a buzzard) fly over and poop on a tiger (more likely a cow) during a pig wrestling match and forever altered the face of West Georgia.
SVD, as you probably can't tell, I'm trying to hijack the thread to save you more grief. Do MSU a service. Start a new tradition bro.

DELTOR
08-28-2006, 04:52 PM
I promise you I will have my bell there and will be ringing it with pride the whole game.
Not if someone confiscates it :ohmy:

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 04:54 PM
No one working at that stadium will be confiscating any bells.

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 04:55 PM
Again I must say deltor quit crying

starkvilledawg
08-28-2006, 04:56 PM
Denny, I happen to enjoy that tradition. I don't think its any more crappy than any of those dumb Alabama traditions.

DELTOR
08-28-2006, 04:57 PM
Again I must say deltor quit crying
Who's crying? No no no sdawg, I'm saving all my crying for you guys in 3 days :D

azamugg
08-28-2006, 05:09 PM
I promise you I will have my bell there and will be ringing it with pride the whole game.

and drooling the whole time with a cross eyed stare

Denny Chimes
08-28-2006, 05:10 PM
Denny, I happen to enjoy that tradition. I don't think its any more crappy than any of those dumb Alabama traditions.
What, like winning?

azamugg
08-28-2006, 05:12 PM
Yes, but those "artificial noisemakers" are not being played during a play. They come after a good play or touchdown, etc.

of course thats the difference but you expect Miss. state fans to see the apple/oranges

a tradition can end and this one should because it is unfair to the other team, its disruptive and if you guys can't field a team w/better talent or strategy and/or your fans can't yell loud enough then quit trying to get an unfair edge w/a damn cowbell

DELTOR
08-28-2006, 05:15 PM
Denny, I happen to enjoy that tradition. I don't think its any more crappy than any of those dumb Alabama traditions.
Uh oh. You did not just bring alabama's tradition into this. LOL! You might be in for some heat, now.

Denny Chimes
08-28-2006, 05:27 PM
Uh oh. You did not just bring alabama's tradition into this. LOL! You might be in for some heat, now.
LOL. Nah. I'll pass. Kind of like debating tradition with you Cocks.

GatorNation
08-28-2006, 05:50 PM
HAHA....I remember in Pee-wee, we'd play teams from West Babylon and Bellport (LI, NY) and every big play--especially the long runs--would be accompanied by the dumb cowbell by crazed parents on the sideline.

I've really grown to hate that thing.

cocky4ever
08-28-2006, 06:33 PM
Unless people are getting hurt by them I say give the dawg fans their cowbells. Im not trying to take a cheap shot here; but it obviously isnt giving them that much of an advantage or their record would show it. Of course, I've never been to a game in Starkville so I dont know how annoying they are, but I say let them have their fun. The various traditions of different schools is one of the things that makes college football special and seperates it from the pro's. As long as no ones getting hurt then let them keep their bells.

BamaDude06
08-28-2006, 07:11 PM
btw, artificial noise maker is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard...what the hell to they think a tuba is??

When was the last time you heard a band playing during a play, trying to distract the other team?

It's against NCAA rules, if it did happen then there should of been a penalty.

RW13
08-28-2006, 07:23 PM
No one working at that stadium will be confiscating any bells.

Good...................

BamaMatt
08-29-2006, 07:24 AM
I always thought the cowbells added to the games when watching them on tv and were just another thing you had to contend with playing against MSU. Of course I've never been to Starkville to hear just how bad they are in person... but it's obviously never stopped many people from beating them or competing with them like cocky4ever stated.

SPURED
08-29-2006, 10:22 AM
atleast there stadium isnt always filled up. i would rather hear 5,000 cowbells than 50,000. imagine how annoying that would be.