USC vs. MSU Preview

[Neo]

South Carolina at Mississippi St.
Thursday 8 PM ET on ESPN HD

Tidbits on S. Carolina:

SC has won 7 of their last 9 season openers. SC finished last in Div 1 with only 605 offensive snaps. Last year in Spurrier’s first year in transferring the offense from a rushing attack to his air assault had only 8 returning starters the least in the SEC. Last year was the first time SC won 5 straight SEC games.

Tidbits on Miss. St:

MSU has lost their last 6 SEC openers SU & ATS. In Crooms first 2 years at least 20 players have been kicked off the team or quit. Under Croom MSU is 3-12 vs the SEC SU. Avg. attendance at MSU games last year was 48,000.

SC Offense vs Miss. St. Defense:

SC avg 23.7 ppg finishing 75th in the country in year one of the Fun N Gun. They return 7 starters from that offense.
Even though the youngsters behind him are having great spring and fall practices Blake Mitchell is the starter because he has a better grasp of the offense. He’s also bulked up about 15 pounds from last year. With all of his WRs returning including one of the best in the country Sidney Rice it should help form mismatches all over the filed as teams double Rice or account for his deep play ability. The rushing attack will be even better with a one two punch of Davis and Boyd who missed last year and would’ve been the starter due to academic reasons. The big question mark will be the oline since only two starters return. If they can give Mitchell enough time this offense will be drastically improved from last years.

MSU gave up 23.5 ppg finishing 40th in the country. They return 9 starters on defense. The defense will keep MSU in games this year but they do lose Willie Evans 15 sacks. The secondary held its own last year but did get picked apart by teams that used a short/intermediate passing attack which they will see in SC. MSU let teams complete 61% of their passes. While many will look at the secondary and see they have solid 4 back there that’s not where the mismatch will be as outside of the two corners MSU has no depth and that will be the key as Spurrier will run 3-4 WRs all with skill and experience at them. I really like this match-up for SC.

SC Defense vs Miss St. Offense:

MSU avg 13.9 ppg ranked 113th in the nation. The offense was horrible last year. Michael Henig took over the starting job late last year from an ineffective Omarr Conner (now at WR) and had worse numbers. 60-135, 44.4%, 621 yds, 2 TD, 5 INT isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire. The only true weapon on offense last year was Jerrious Norwood who accounted for one third of MSU all purpose yards and he is gone now as a third round pick to the Falcons. This offense will be improved from last year but I just don’t see them lighting the scoreboard up especially with the loss of Norwood.

SC gave up 23.2 ppg finishing 40th in the country. Only 4 starters return and SC did lose a ton of talent. The defense is what made we a little weary to play SC here early on as the DL does lack size. The strength of the defense is definitely its speed and Tyrone Nix has now full control of the defense and he loves to be aggressive and attack. Next year first day pick Fred Bennett will lock down what other side of the field he is on. This defense will struggle early going this year but will hold its own vs probably the worst offense in the SEC.

My Play:

SC by at least 14

Went back and forth with this game when it opened at 7 but someone dropped a load on MSU at betcris dropping the game all the way down to –5.5 while at pinny it sits at 7 still. Even though it’ll be a tough road test for SC I like the passing match-up vs the Bulldog defense and just don’t think MSU will have enough on offense with the loss of Norwood early on.




Opinions?

[nooneLT]

watch out, the MSU fans are gonna getcha!

[USAFGAMECOCK]

yep....this will start a war on this board....but they're fun to watch.

Anyway, I like your break down Neo. I think MSU will have a good defense, we'll certainly have to take advantage of mismatches. And our O-Line will have to hang in there long enough to give Blake time, just like you said. Their defense won't be a pushover. I just don't think their offense will be able to score enough. My .02 worth.

[cocky4ever]

yep....this will start a war on this board....but they're fun to watch.

Anyway, I like your break down Neo. I think MSU will have a good defense, we'll certainly have to take advantage of mismatches. And our O-Line will have to hang in there long enough to give Blake time, just like you said. Their defense won't be a pushover. I just don't think their offense will be able to score enough. My .02 worth.
I agree. Their defense will slow us down a little but certainly wont stop us. On the other hand their offense wont be able keep up with ours.

And as far as we're talking about mismatches look for Jared Cook to come up with some key plays in this game.

[Neo]

I agree. Their defense will slow us down a little but certainly wont stop us. On the other hand their offense wont be able keep up with ours.

And as far as we're talking about mismatches look for Jared Cook to come up with some key plays in this game.



I'm looking forward to seeing what Jared Cook can do. Measuring at 6-6/230 lbs, I have an inkling that he may be another "Pope-ish" TE.

I'm also hearing that he's having a great practice too.... :happy:

[cocky4ever]

I'm looking forward to seeing what Jared Cook can do. Measuring at 6-6/230 lbs, I have an inkling that he may be another "Pope-ish" TE.

I'm also hearing that he's having a great practice too.... :happy:
I've heard his practices are going great and its really hard for people to stop him because of his size and speed. People who've seen him practice are saying he's more like a Winslow-type of the new hybrid TE. Thats a weapon Spurrier didnt really have at UF so Im excited to see how he's gonna utilize him.

[Dr. Pepper]

My only real concern at this point is our offensive line. It sounds like that our quarterbacks have had to rush their passes during practice which will not be a good thing when the games begin. However, since they just put on pads and started hitting for real, I look for them to make good improvement this week. I fully expect the MSU game to be a blowout

[pc72687]

It seems that we will be better at the linebacker position this year then in the past. The past 2 years we had continuance there (ie Hurley, Laury, etc) but this year I think Sapp and Brinkly and Paulk will be far better. And fromm the sound of it Captian and Chris Hail/Emanual Cook are doing a good job of replacing Simpson and Joesph. Couple the above 2 predictions with what Neo said about the speed being better used in Nix's system and I believe you get a good result. Now I am not ready to call them world beaters yet but I am going to say it now that our defense will be far far better then last years.

[downshall]

Henig throws at least 2 interceptions and State fumbles one away to boot. State's anemic offense manages under 200 yards total offense. State's defense plays well but is put in too many bad situations to carry the day. SC comes away winning 27-10.

[scfan5338]

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The secondary held its own last year but did get picked apart by teams that used a short/intermediate passing attack which they will see in SC. MSU let teams complete 61% of their passes. While many will look at the secondary and see they have solid 4 back there that’s not where the mismatch will be as outside of the two corners MSU has no depth and that will be the key as Spurrier will run 3-4 WRs all with skill and experience at them. I really like this match-up for SC.



That is exactly what I have been trying to say. There is no one on the MSu secondary that can cover Rice one on one. And if you dont have depth at the CB position when you are playing a team let by Spurrier its going to be a problem. I'm not saying that, that is the reason why we are going to win but that will certainly help that they dont have much depth.

[AceLeroy]

I agree. Their defense will slow us down a little but certainly wont stop us. On the other hand their offense wont be able keep up with ours.

And as far as we're talking about mismatches look for Jared Cook to come up with some key plays in this game.

That sounds about right to me. The MSU defense will be pretty solid , but as I have said before I don't know how we are going to score points this year. I will have to be shown something by Our (MSU) offense before I will have ANY confidence in them.

For MSU to have a chance , Henig is going to have to throw for some first downs. If the MSU O keeps going 3 and out , the defense will tire and Spurrier will put a lot of points on the board.

[GeauxTo]

Looks to be a good game. Even though they have a pretty good defense, I don't think State will be able to stop Darth Visor's WRs (which will surely dominate his offensive game plan). And, on the other side, I don't think the Dogs will be able to crack the Gamecock defense, either by land or air. And, to top it off, you have Crooms, arguably the worst coach in the SEC, going against Spurs, arguable the best coach in the SEC. I'll be surprised if the Gamecocks don't win fairly substantially.

[GamecockDieHard]

If we lose or don't win by a decisive margin, I'll be very disappointed. We need to prepare well for MSU and we need to play well against them. If we don't then we could lose. However, we should not lose. We need to display a command of this game and go into the Georgia game with the knowledge that MSU wasn't an issue. It doesn't mean we should overlook MSU, if we do, we will lose. It just means we should beat them without a problem. Otherwise, we'll be lucky to win 6 this year. Last year, we SHOULD have beaten Georgia, cLIMPson, and Mizz. That would've made Spurs have a 10-2 record with a team that had about 5 starters returning, with only 1 QB in his first year, and with an offense that NO ONE had EVER seen before. That's pretty impressive. Now, I know, woulda, coulda, shoulda, didn't, etc... but all I'm saying is, it wasn't a blow-out in those games, and for lack of 1 play it turned on us. Don't tell me we can't win. Don't tell me it'll never happen here. It almost happened in Spurrier's first year, with extremely questionable talent. And yes.....I AM A HOMER!

[pc72687]

I agree a play here and a play there we win those games. But then again a play here and a play there and we lose a couple also!

[rabidcock]

I just hope we don't start the '06 campaign 2-3 and end up in the same hole as last year. My concerns for the defense are somewhat abated because, for all the talk every year about having an aggressive defense installed and blah blah blah, I believe the talk is for real this season. The last time we installed an offense of this nature, back in the 80's, we really put up some impressive defensive numbers.

[TigerFanatic]

Looks to be a good game. Even though they have a pretty good defense, I don't think State will be able to stop Darth Visor's WRs (which will surely dominate his offensive game plan). And, on the other side, I don't think the Dogs will be able to crack the Gamecock defense, either by land or air. And, to top it off, you have Crooms, arguably the worst coach in the SEC, going against Spurs, arguable the best coach in the SEC. I'll be surprised if the Gamecocks don't win fairly substantially.great minds think alike. i feel the same way, under visor boy, SC isn't the pushover schedule-filler school i used to think of them as. i'm looking for SC to come out big on this one, Croom's D just won't be able to stop the fun 'n gun, cock and shoot or whatever the hell else you wanna call it offense that spurrier's gonna orchestrate

[GAMECOCKBOY]

great minds think alike. i feel the same way, under visor boy, SC isn't the pushover schedule-filler school i used to think of them as. i'm looking for SC to come out big on this one, Croom's D just won't be able to stop the fun 'n gun, cock and shoot or whatever the hell else you wanna call it offense that spurrier's gonna orchestrate
its cock and fire

[mark424]

South Carolina at Mississippi St.
Thursday 8 PM ET on ESPN HD

Tidbits on S. Carolina:

SC has won 7 of their last 9 season openers. SC finished last in Div 1 with only 605 offensive snaps. Last year in Spurrier’s first year in transferring the offense from a rushing attack to his air assault had only 8 returning starters the least in the SEC. Last year was the first time SC won 5 straight SEC games.

Tidbits on Miss. St:

MSU has lost their last 6 SEC openers SU & ATS. In Crooms first 2 years at least 20 players have been kicked off the team or quit. Under Croom MSU is 3-12 vs the SEC SU. Avg. attendance at MSU games last year was 48,000.

SC Offense vs Miss. St. Defense:

SC avg 23.7 ppg finishing 75th in the country in year one of the Fun N Gun. They return 7 starters from that offense.
Even though the youngsters behind him are having great spring and fall practices Blake Mitchell is the starter because he has a better grasp of the offense. He’s also bulked up about 15 pounds from last year. With all of his WRs returning including one of the best in the country Sidney Rice it should help form mismatches all over the filed as teams double Rice or account for his deep play ability. The rushing attack will be even better with a one two punch of Davis and Boyd who missed last year and would’ve been the starter due to academic reasons. The big question mark will be the oline since only two starters return. If they can give Mitchell enough time this offense will be drastically improved from last years.

MSU gave up 23.5 ppg finishing 40th in the country. They return 9 starters on defense. The defense will keep MSU in games this year but they do lose Willie Evans 15 sacks. The secondary held its own last year but did get picked apart by teams that used a short/intermediate passing attack which they will see in SC. MSU let teams complete 61% of their passes. While many will look at the secondary and see they have solid 4 back there that’s not where the mismatch will be as outside of the two corners MSU has no depth and that will be the key as Spurrier will run 3-4 WRs all with skill and experience at them. I really like this match-up for SC.

SC Defense vs Miss St. Offense:

MSU avg 13.9 ppg ranked 113th in the nation. The offense was horrible last year. Michael Henig took over the starting job late last year from an ineffective Omarr Conner (now at WR) and had worse numbers. 60-135, 44.4%, 621 yds, 2 TD, 5 INT isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire. The only true weapon on offense last year was Jerrious Norwood who accounted for one third of MSU all purpose yards and he is gone now as a third round pick to the Falcons. This offense will be improved from last year but I just don’t see them lighting the scoreboard up especially with the loss of Norwood.

SC gave up 23.2 ppg finishing 40th in the country. Only 4 starters return and SC did lose a ton of talent. The defense is what made we a little weary to play SC here early on as the DL does lack size. The strength of the defense is definitely its speed and Tyrone Nix has now full control of the defense and he loves to be aggressive and attack. Next year first day pick Fred Bennett will lock down what other side of the field he is on. This defense will struggle early going this year but will hold its own vs probably the worst offense in the SEC.

My Play:

SC by at least 14

Went back and forth with this game when it opened at 7 but someone dropped a load on MSU at betcris dropping the game all the way down to –5.5 while at pinny it sits at 7 still. Even though it’ll be a tough road test for SC I like the passing match-up vs the Bulldog defense and just don’t think MSU will have enough on offense with the loss of Norwood early on.




Opinions?


LMAO! That's got to be the most biased and terrible write-up I've ever seen! Don't quit your day job, fool.

P.S. If that were my girl, I wouldn't be flashing her picture everywhere. :ohmy:

[mark424]

Oh yeah, that much improved defense you guys have been bragging on for weeks gave up just over 400 yards in an hour in saturday's scrimmage.....ouch!

That's gotta be bothersome, huh? Maybe our "anemic" offense led by the "SEC's worst coach" can find a way to score against your wet paper towel defense. Our defense will hold SC in check. Look for SC to score on their first drive, then stuggle to get in the red zone for the rest of the game.

[scfan5338]

Oh yeah, that much improved defense you guys have been bragging on for weeks gave up just over 400 yards in an hour in saturday's scrimmage.....ouch!

That's gotta be bothersome, huh? Maybe our "anemic" offense led by the "SEC's worst coach" can find a way to score against your wet paper towel defense. Our defense will hold SC in check. Look for SC to score on their first drive, then stuggle to get in the red zone for the rest of the game.

Yeah our offense is only going to score 7 or 14 points against your defense. You are right.
There's no one on MSU's offense that can compare to the players on the USC offense. When you have that many weapons its hard to stop everyone. You guys dont have any weapons. We can focus on two or three guys that we have to stop.

[msgadawg]

Nah, We aren't gonna go afer SC fans, It is not time to get down to it, Put em on the field and see what happens, I think the Defense will be much improved, The offense will be better but How much better?? That is the question, Granted we have some pretty good receivers coming in, but,,, we can't rely just on the pass, the running game will have to provide some balance or we are looking at 7-13 points a game again, Let's get it going and see what is gonna transpire! Go Dawgs!

[Williams-Brice]

P.S. If that were my girl, I wouldn't be flashing her picture everywhere. :ohmy:

Way to show your true colors. Nice class.

[Neo]

Way to show your true colors. Nice class.



Class? What's that WB? :whistle:

He wouldn't know about class if it fell outta the sky, landed on his face and started to wiggle.

[mark424]

Way to show your true colors. Nice class.

I don't want to hear it, I've only been on here for a couple of weeks and I've been very objective the whole time. I finally got tired of all the flaming and lashing for no reason. Everyone acts like it's a sin (or an insult) for MSU to think they have a chance against another SEC team. I'm tired of the insults and flaming, so I'm moving to a better board with more thoughtful and intelligent members. There's about 5 people who post regularly on here and they gang up on anybody who disagrees with them. Yeah, I shouldn't have lashed, but it seemed to be the popular thing to do on this board.

See you on SI.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

LMAO! That's got to be the most biased and terrible write-up I've ever seen! Don't quit your day job, fool.
No, a fool is one who trashes someone else's analysis, but is unwilling to provide their own assessment of the game.

P.S. Pretty accurate assessment Neo, backed up by stats and knowledge of both teams strengths and weaknesses IMO.

[downshall]

I don't want to hear it, I've only been on here for a couple of weeks and I've been very objective the whole time. I finally got tired of all the flaming and lashing for no reason. Everyone acts like it's a sin (or an insult) for MSU to think they have a chance against another SEC team. I'm tired of the insults and flaming, so I'm moving to a better board with more thoughtful and intelligent members. There's about 5 people who post regularly on here and they gang up on anybody who disagrees with them. Yeah, I shouldn't have lashed, but it seemed to be the popular thing to do on this board.

See you on SI.

What a joke. Does it not occur to you that everyone else seems to get along here? That it's actually a fairly peacable board?

You have been ANYTHING but objective since you started posting here.

Here's a clue... No one here objects to you thinking you have a chance against a team in the SEC. The big problem is when you got personal in the post above. That was absolutely wrong, and quite honestly you ought to apologize on your way out the door.

[Trinity]

P.S. If that were my girl, I wouldn't be flashing her picture everywhere. :ohmy:


Just one thing to say about this. He is obviously proud of his woman and know where she stands: right next to him and no one else!!

[blues_cap]

man, while checking this thread over lunch, it is really starting to resemble a soap opera......

[Williams-Brice]

I don't want to hear it, I've only been on here for a couple of weeks and I've been very objective the whole time. I finally got tired of all the flaming and lashing for no reason. Everyone acts like it's a sin (or an insult) for MSU to think they have a chance against another SEC team. I'm tired of the insults and flaming, so I'm moving to a better board with more thoughtful and intelligent members. There's about 5 people who post regularly on here and they gang up on anybody who disagrees with them. Yeah, I shouldn't have lashed, but it seemed to be the popular thing to do on this board.

See you on SI.

Good riddance.

At no point in any thread on any site should someone insult someone else's family members. It is popular to lash out at teams, but what you did is totally uncalled for. If you can't take insults and flaming about your team, then you have two choices: 1. Don't get on any message board because message boards were invented for insults and flaming or 2. Find a new team and/or coach because your team's situation sucks.

Good riddance. You're presence was never felt by any of us, and you certainly will not be missed.

[Williams-Brice]

Just one thing to say about this. He is obviously proud of his woman and know where she stands: right next to him and no one else!!

And we are proud of you, too!

[GAMECOCKBOY]

dont mess with us gamecocks or u will get spured

[Neo]

Instead of coaching his team, Sly Croom has better things to do..... :laugh:

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[HMSUDAWGS]

Sorry to see you leave Mark. For an administrator Neo you sure no how to piss people off. I hope you're happy running off a MSU fan. I bet if someone would have done that to a SC fan you'd be all up in arms. All of us on here are homers but with the amount of SC crap on here is just ridiculous. The only reason I'm still here is to watch you cocks eat your crow. Or give ya'll the opportunity to watch me eat it. Either way this board and thread really blows, and if ya'll really wanted more people on here and a wider variety, you might want to consider not ganging up on new people and making them feel unwelcomed.

[Neo]

Sorry to see you leave Mark. For an administrator Neo you sure no how to piss people off. I hope you're happy running off a MSU fan. I bet if someone would have done that to a SC fan you'd be all up in arms. All of us on here are homers but with the amount of SC crap on here is just ridiculous. The only reason I'm still here is to watch you cocks eat your crow. Or give ya'll the opportunity to watch me eat it. Either way this board and thread really blows, and if ya'll really wanted more people on here and a wider variety, you might want to consider not ganging up on new people and making them feel unwelcomed.



Cry me a river..... :wacko: Some people around here need thicker skin.


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[HMSUDAWGS]

You can't get to me Neo, but don't go around trying to get new members from teams that don't have a lot of posters and then gang up on them when they state their opinions. Very uncool.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

You can't get to me Neo, but don't go around trying to get new members from teams that don't have a lot of posters and then gang up on them when they state their opinions. Very uncool.
The post below is the first post he made in this thread, and you call that an opinion? Maybe you consider posts like the one below cool and just an opinion, but I don't.

LMAO! That's got to be the most biased and terrible write-up I've ever seen! Don't quit your day job, fool.

P.S. If that were my girl, I wouldn't be flashing her picture everywhere. :ohmy:
That was one of the most distasteful posts I've seen in a long time, especially the P.S. part at the end.

An example of an opinion would have been something to the effect of "I disagree with your assessment of the game because of the following reasons...".

[Neo]

You can't get to me Neo


Really????? :ohmy:


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[GAMECOCKBOY]

Sorry to see you leave Mark. For an administrator Neo you sure no how to piss people off. I hope you're happy running off a MSU fan. I bet if someone would have done that to a SC fan you'd be all up in arms. All of us on here are homers but with the amount of SC crap on here is just ridiculous. The only reason I'm still here is to watch you cocks eat your crow. Or give ya'll the opportunity to watch me eat it. Either way this board and thread really blows, and if ya'll really wanted more people on here and a wider variety, you might want to consider not ganging up on new people and making them feel unwelcomed.
u started talking your trash and u thought we were going to sit back and say nothing u r wrong....let mark leave he wont be missed...he is low for talking about someones girlfriend...him and u deserve everything ya'll get...

[Neo]

Oh no! :ohmy:

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[USC_fanboy04]

Sorry to see you leave Mark. For an administrator Neo you sure no how to piss people off. I hope you're happy running off a MSU fan. I bet if someone would have done that to a SC fan you'd be all up in arms. All of us on here are homers but with the amount of SC crap on here is just ridiculous. The only reason I'm still here is to watch you cocks eat your crow. Or give ya'll the opportunity to watch me eat it. Either way this board and thread really blows, and if ya'll really wanted more people on here and a wider variety, you might want to consider not ganging up on new people and making them feel unwelcomed.

So because Neo wrote a very well thought out read on the upcoming game, your fellow fan has the right to attack someone personally? I doubt any Carolina fan here would stand for another fan of SC saying anything of that nature, maybe Miss State's fans are actually worse then the thugs on the team. You have yet to prove otherwise.

[Williams-Brice]

Sorry to see you leave Mark. For an administrator Neo you sure no how to piss people off. I hope you're happy running off a MSU fan. I bet if someone would have done that to a SC fan you'd be all up in arms. All of us on here are homers but with the amount of SC crap on here is just ridiculous. The only reason I'm still here is to watch you cocks eat your crow. Or give ya'll the opportunity to watch me eat it. Either way this board and thread really blows, and if ya'll really wanted more people on here and a wider variety, you might want to consider not ganging up on new people and making them feel unwelcomed.

You may disagree with Neo's first post, but he had numbers and rankings to back it up. He formed his opinion based on those numbers and rankings. There was no flaming on this board between MSU and USC fans until some MSU fan (I believe it was you) made some wise crack.

Don't bring up that wider variety crap. Do you realize that this site is run by administrators who pull for LSU, USC, UGA, and UF? This is not a USC site. We haven't run anyone off. Mark did this crap to himself because of his tasteless remark.

I can't wait to see you join Mark. I haven't read one post of your's that increased the value of this site. You have caused all of the antimosity between MSU and USC fans on this board, yet you want to put it all on us. Well, when we beat your worthless team at the end of the month, this site will lose nothing more than another worthless troll.

[Trinity]

You can't get to me Neo, but don't go around trying to get new members from teams that don't have a lot of posters and then gang up on them when they state their opinions. Very uncool.


Now Neo, what did we learn when we were in school? Don't pick on those smaller than us. They can't defend themselves. :laugh:

[HMSUDAWGS]

You're all full of crap and doing the same thing again and again.

[Williams-Brice]

And you're slowly on your way out.

[HMSUDAWGS]

Yeah, I am, I hope ya'll go ahead and change the name to cock talk soon afterwards.

[cocky4ever]

Jeez...I wish we were playing Bama again this year instead of having State rotate onto our schedule. Even though we had to eat massive amounts of crow after the game at least we didnt have to hear the Tide fans whining like a bunch of babies for the whole month leading up to it.......

[GamecockDieHard]

It's possible on this site to block posters that offend you. I hate to see emotions go totally out of whack and people give up on why we're all really here. Block the posters you don't want to listen to until tempers calm. This isn't an all Gamecock site. If it were, I wouldn't want to read it. Where's the fun in having everyone agree?

But people should keep the personal insults out of their posts. That angers everyone more than saying this or that team sucks worse than the others.

[downshall]

Yeah, I am, I hope ya'll go ahead and change the name to cock talk soon afterwards.

Give it a rest. It's not Cock Talk around here, as much as you'd like to think that. Most sane people in the world think SC will be too much for MSU to handle. You guys have argued that... and argued that... and argued that. The SC fans have countered. Welcome to message boards.

If you don't like counter opinions - and for the record, the vast majority of SEC fans have an opinion counter to yours - then go back to Gene's Page and talk about how badly you'll trounce SC and proceed from there to an 8-win season.

[Williams-Brice]

Yeah, I am, I hope ya'll go ahead and change the name to cock talk soon afterwards.

As long as you aren't here, I'm up for anything. Go crawl back into your 3-8 hole, and lose to Maine at home.

[HMSUDAWGS]

WB we are still a game up on SC any way you want to look at it. I'll be around a little while longer just for you.

[Williams-Brice]

And you are 0-3 in the past three; soon to be 0-4. I'll gladly show you the door on September 1st.

[Neo]

And you are 0-3 in the past three; soon to be 0-4. I'll gladly show you the door on September 1st.



Mississippi State: Too bad, so sad...

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MSU FANS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

[pc72687]

I always got along with MSU fans but this year it seems the worst besides Aceleroy have reared up and shown their ugly heads. I really can't wait until this game is over.

[shanksta13]

My money is definitely on Spurrier and Rice!

[RebelsRule10]

I always got along with MSU fans but this year it seems the worst besides Aceleroy have reared up and shown their ugly heads. I really can't wait until this game is over.
They beat Olemiss last year and now think that they are a top ten team !

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[Williams-Brice]

I always got along with MSU fans but this year it seems the worst besides Aceleroy have reared up and shown their ugly heads. I really can't wait until this game is over.

AceLeroy is the only objective one in the group. I enjoy his posts.

[zorak34]

I predicted this game to be gory Cocks and Dogs littered all over the place after this game.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

AceLeroy is the only objective one in the group. I enjoy his posts.
Agree 100%. I've stated the same a couple of times. AceLeroy is the "cream of the crop" as far as MSU fans go on this site. :thumpsup:

As far as I'm concerned, the rest of the crop has spoiled.

[kinfolk41684]

Honestly, South Carolina should win, but State seems to want this more than South Carolina, so I would not be surprised if this one is a close one!!!

[Williams-Brice]

Honestly, South Carolina should win, but State seems to want this more than South Carolina, so I would not be surprised if this one is a close one!!!

Wow. Where on earth are you getting that they want it more than us?

[kinfolk41684]

Wow. Where on earth are you getting that they want it more than us?
Because you guys just think of them as a gimme and think you are just gonna mop'em, they have had a losing season year after year (like Ole Miss as well) and they are just ready to break loose, against a good team with a win (ya'll)

[GAMECOCKBOY]

Honestly, South Carolina should win, but State seems to want this more than South Carolina, so I would not be surprised if this one is a close one!!!
in the end it doesnt matter what our fans believe...in the end it matters what our teams believes....spurrier will not have this team overlooking anyone and that is all to it.

[Williams-Brice]

Because you guys just think of them as a gimme and think you are just gonna mop'em, they have had a losing season year after year (like Ole Miss as well) and they are just ready to break loose, against a good team with a win (ya'll)

The fans see this game as a sure win, but there's been no indication that our team feels the same way.

[AceLeroy]

It's possible on this site to block posters that offend you. I hate to see emotions go totally out of whack and people give up on why we're all really here. Block the posters you don't want to listen to until tempers calm. This isn't an all Gamecock site. If it were, I wouldn't want to read it. Where's the fun in having everyone agree?

But people should keep the personal insults out of their posts. That angers everyone more than saying this or that team sucks worse than the others.

Good call. The smack talk can be fun to read and there has been a ton of it concerning the USC/MSU game.

The personal attacks are just wrong though. A young lady was insulted and it was not only uncalled for but incorrect.

NEO , if that girl is half as nice as her smile , you are a fortunate man.

Thanks for the nice comments some of you gave me.

Now let the smack talk resume and come Aug 31st....LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!

I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!

[VOLjlt]

Good call. The smack talk can be fun to read and there has been a ton of it concerning the USC/MSU game.

The personal attacks are just wrong though. A young lady was insulted and it was not only uncalled for but incorrect.

NEO , if that girl is half as nice as her smile , you are a fortunate man.

Thanks for the nice comments some of you gave me.

Now let the smack talk resume and come Aug 31st....LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!

I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!

That post, MSU fans, is a great example of a very tasteful well written post from a MSU Bulldog. Rep points to Ace for that one. Good show.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Good call. The smack talk can be fun to read and there has been a ton of it concerning the USC/MSU game.

The personal attacks are just wrong though. A young lady was insulted and it was not only uncalled for but incorrect.

NEO , if that girl is half as nice as her smile , you are a fortunate man.

Thanks for the nice comments some of you gave me.

Now let the smack talk resume and come Aug 31st....LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!

I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to AceLeroy again. :sad:

[pc72687]

Good call. The smack talk can be fun to read and there has been a ton of it concerning the USC/MSU game.

The personal attacks are just wrong though. A young lady was insulted and it was not only uncalled for but incorrect.

NEO , if that girl is half as nice as her smile , you are a fortunate man.

Thanks for the nice comments some of you gave me.

Now let the smack talk resume and come Aug 31st....LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!

I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!

This just goes to show, maybe others will follow suit and be more like Ace.

[Trinity]

Good call. The smack talk can be fun to read and there has been a ton of it concerning the USC/MSU game.

The personal attacks are just wrong though. A young lady was insulted and it was not only uncalled for but incorrect.

NEO , if that girl is half as nice as her smile , you are a fortunate man.

Thanks for the nice comments some of you gave me.

Now let the smack talk resume and come Aug 31st....LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!

I AM READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!

See, the people who want to personally attack people like that just lack testicular fotitude! Ty. And I am just as nice as my picture. :celebrate

[Trinity]

Sorry to see you leave Mark. For an administrator Neo you sure no how to piss people off. I hope you're happy running off a MSU fan. I bet if someone would have done that to a SC fan you'd be all up in arms. All of us on here are homers but with the amount of SC crap on here is just ridiculous. The only reason I'm still here is to watch you cocks eat your crow. Or give ya'll the opportunity to watch me eat it. Either way this board and thread really blows, and if ya'll really wanted more people on here and a wider variety, you might want to consider not ganging up on new people and making them feel unwelcomed.


Are you kidding me????We are on a message board where yes, some smack is talked. The things are no attack to anyone. One of the rules is not to make these things personal but unfortunatly some don't read that fine print. If whoever doesn't want to be here, I'm sure there are many who will point the way to the door.

[Wizard of Orange]

I predicted this game to be gory Cocks and Dogs littered all over the place after this game.
Ditto, Zorak, I'm really gettin fired up for an SC /MSU slugfest. Who'd thunk it? If it weren't for the great banter on SECTALK between these two armies of Optimism, it would have just been another second rate early SEC match-up.

This is gonna be fun!!

[blues_cap]

Ditto, Zorak, I'm really gettin fired up for an SC /MSU slugfest. Who'd thunk it? If it weren't for the great banter on SECTALK between these two armies of Optimism, it would have just been another second rate early SEC match-up.

This is gonna be fun!!

i second that... b/w the smack talk/soap opera/actual matchup talk, this board could blow up(literally) on sep 1 if the dogs pull an upset in starkville.

gotta admit, it would be a "bang" to start the season with. only problem is that im not sure there are enough msu fans on here to cook up enough crow to feed all the sc fans.

[Wizard of Orange]

I guess we could jump in and take up the'Dogs slack and spar with the Cocks ourselves ,BC. But that would mean me siding w/ you - Not really workable. Also, it would mean coming up with good arguments on behalf of the Starkville Boys, 'n I'm not sure I'm up to all that.

I guess we'll just have to hope the Starkies start showin up in #s soon...

[blues_cap]

we could, but im not....however, as i know from experience, if the cocks go to starkville and lose there is "gonna be some splainin to do."

[Williams-Brice]

Ditto, Zorak, I'm really gettin fired up for an SC /MSU slugfest. Who'd thunk it? If it weren't for the great banter on SECTALK between these two armies of Optimism, it would have just been another second rate early SEC match-up.

This is gonna be fun!!

Yeah, it looks about as second rate as the billing for the Tennessee - Vandy game last year.

[Neo]

Good call. The smack talk can be fun to read and there has been a ton of it concerning the USC/MSU game.


I agree. It can all be in good fun as long as it's kept about the teams and not about people's lives.



The personal attacks are just wrong though. A young lady was insulted and it was not only uncalled for but incorrect.


Correct again. That was uncalled for. My GF wanted to join this site because she saw how much fun the site was and wanted to be a part of it. Insulting her was a feeble attempt at angering me and to a point, he succeeded. If you wanna argue with me about the teams or games, then go for it. I'm all for a little friendly smacktalk, but let's not take it too far.



NEO , if that girl is half as nice as her smile , you are a fortunate man.

Thanks ACE. I've known you on here for quite a while and I know it's rather late to say this, but you're a class act on here. We've always talked smack to each other or disagreed, but we always kept it professional.

As for my GF, (ClemsonGirl) she IS as nice as her picture and she's the greatest woman I know. I'm lucky as hell to have her. :happy:


Major rep for you Ace. You've earned it 10-fold. :happy:

[Neo]

Yeah our offense is only going to score 7 or 14 points against your defense. You are right.
There's no one on MSU's offense that can compare to the players on the USC offense. When you have that many weapons its hard to stop everyone. You guys dont have any weapons. We can focus on two or three guys that we have to stop.


One thing that I really didn't touch was the "Syvelle Newton" factor. We all saw what he did last year. He gives the opposing DC's something to worry about because this kid is clearly a dangerous weapon on the field. Him and Cory Boyd will put up a lot of points this year.

Watch and see..... :ohmy:

[cocky4ever]

He gives the opposing DC's something to worry about because this kid is clearly a dangerous weapon on the field.

Exactly....when he's in the huddle theres no telling which position he's gonna pop out at. He's a threat at many positions and a headache waiting to happen for DC's.

[Dr. Pepper]

This site is a heavy lean to the Gamecocks for some reason, but for what it is worth, the only member that I have blocked is Gamecockboy. I might block a couple of MState members, but then I would almost eliminate any input from that school and I do enjoy the pictures of the cheerleaders.

We do not want it to be onesided. It is good to see some old friends like DennyChimes return. GH and Geaux and others bring a lot. I wish that we had some Vandy people.

The most annoying thing to me is when a new person gets on and immediately flames one of the long time members. New people should watch, listen, and pay attention for awhile. Any rational person would have known that flaming NEO was going to bring down the wrath of God.

This is a good site, and I have learned a lot about Florida, UGA, UT, LSU and Bama that I did not know. I have had my eyes opened to the recruiting game. I have gone to war with some people that I terribly disagree with but have the utmost respect for.

Doyouguysrememberclemsonboyowroteallofhispostswith outpunctuationHedidnotlastlong.Neither do those who show no respect for others. Our friend from MState can go, and he will not be missed, but I wish that he would reconsider and begin to think before he types. If he really wants us to have any respect for the Bulldogs of the great state of Mississippi, then he will bring us something that can be backed up with some evidence rather than ranting with his emotions.

[Wizard of Orange]

Yeah, it looks about as second rate as the billing for the Tennessee - Vandy game last year.
Finally, I get some reaction from the SC bunch...

[Williams-Brice]

Finally, I get some reaction from the SC bunch...

Hahah. :laugh: Well, you just put it out there. It's all in good fun. Y'all will be back. Let us get the cheap shots in while it lasts! :laugh:

[pc72687]

Lets just hope we have something to back it up with vs. UT because they have the talent there its just whether they can play together.

[jjj1]

Okay I may get flamed here but oh well.. I have taken a glance at a few of the posts here and I would have to agree that MSU is the heavy underdog in this match up. However the one thing that comes to mind is that I can not seem to recall when Spurrier has come into Starkville and won a game. In the games I can remember Spurrier came in to Starkville being the favorite by more than 14 pts and lost in a very close game. Then again it could be be the an issue with the gators. I cant seem to remember when the gators have beaten MSU in starkville either. Anyone wish to comment on this?

[Neo]

Okay I may get flamed here but oh well.. I have taken a glance at a few of the posts here and I would have to agree that MSU is the heavy underdog in this match up. However the one thing that comes to mind is that I can not seem to recall when Spurrier has come into Starkville and won a game. In the games I can remember Spurrier came in to Starkville being the favorite by more than 14 pts and lost in a very close game. Then again it could be be the an issue with the gators. I cant seem to remember when the gators have beaten MSU in starkville either. Anyone wish to comment on this?



No flame here JJJ! Welcome to the site. If you ever need anything, feel free to contact any of the admins.

Neo
SECTalk.com Admin/News Writer

[starkvilledawg]

Hello jjj1, I too am a newbie, it is nice to see another bulldog. Although I can't remember Spurrier ever really having a close game in Starkville. All I remember is him having his @$$ handed to him every time. Aug. 31, 2006 will be no different. Go Dawgs!!

[GTmorris1970]

Few things here. First of all, I also gave Ace rep. points for his post. Second, attacking Neo's girl is BS. Period. Third, Spurrier has never won in Starkville. That is correct. Lastly, I do not think it is a gimme game, but Carolina should win and hopefully be able to pull away in the second half. First games are always scary, especially starting with a SEC opponent.

[kinfolk41684]

:ohmy: Hello jjj1, I too am a newbie, it is nice to see another bulldog. Although I can't remember Spurrier ever really having a close game in Starkville. All I remember is him having his @$$ handed to him every time. Aug. 31, 2006 will be no different. Go Dawgs!!
Uh Oh!!!

[Neo]

Hello jjj1, I too am a newbie, it is nice to see another bulldog. Although I can't remember Spurrier ever really having a close game in Starkville. All I remember is him having his @$$ handed to him every time. Aug. 31, 2006 will be no different. Go Dawgs!!


Welcome to SECTalk.com Starkville! If you ever need anything, feel free to contact any of the admins.

Neo
SECTalk.com Admin/News Writer


As for Spurrier in Starkville, I would hardly call the score of 47-35 getting your a$$ handed to you. Since we're discussing it, isn't Spurrier's record in Starkville/MSU 1-1 and 4-2 overall respectively?

[jjj1]

Neo
From what I can remember, Spurrier has lost twice in starkville. One of em in which Shame Matthews was QB and the other was on the decline of the Dawgs as they started their streak of 3-8 seasons. What I cant recall is how many other visits Spurrier had to Starkville

[starkvilledawg]

Spurrier has not won a football game in Starkville, check your stats Neo. As for the 47-35 win over his gators, MSU dominated the whole game. The only reason the score was even close was because we started subing in our scrubs in the second half.

[Neo]

Spurrier has not won a football game in Starkville, check your stats Neo.


Upon further investigation, you are correct. I stand corrected. :happy:



As for the 47-35 win over his gators, MSU dominated the whole game. The only reason the score was even close was because we started subing in our scrubs in the second half.


Do you realize how lame that sounds? The fact of the matter is it wasn't a dominating score like you are trying to imply. I wouldn't send in my scrubs unless I'm up by at least 25 going into the 4th qtr. :ohmy:

[starkvilledawg]

Unlike Spurrier and Tubberville, MSU has class. We don't like to run the score up on anyone.

[kinfolk41684]

Unlike Spurrier and Tubberville, MSU has class. We don't like to run the score up on anyone.
Cause you can't!!!! :laugh:

[starkvilledawg]

We easily could've run the score up on ole piss last year but chose to have class.

[blues_cap]

Spurrier has not won a football game in Starkville, check your stats Neo. As for the 47-35 win over his gators, MSU dominated the whole game. The only reason the score was even close was because we started subing in our scrubs in the second half.

that's bs, i was at the game. msu fans, players, and coaches never thought you had that game in hand.

[starkvilledawg]

I was there too blues cap. I believe we knew we had it when Spurrier was sending his punter out of the back of the end zone to avoid another block.

[jjj1]

I was not there but I do recall Spurrier stating to that the gators were not a good team and that there should have been no surprise that MSU won that game. Either way I hope the Spurrier streak in Starkville continues. GO DAWGS!!!

[blues_cap]

I was there too blues cap. I believe we knew we had it when Spurrier was sending his punter out of the back of the end zone to avoid another block.

yeah, unfortunately i was sitting right behind him, in the msu student section.

he did say after the game something to the effect of, "msu should wait until they beat a good team b/f they tear down their goal posts." :laugh:

[starkvilledawg]

Yeah, but it was fun tearing them down.

[WDavE]

Here is my opinion for what it is worth....

Since you two are playing so early in the season. I think it will be a tight game. Maybe alot tighter then some think...

Reasons:
1. It usually takes an offense alot longer to gel then it does a defense.
2. USC will have alot of new faces to on the defensive side of the ball.
3. USC will be on the road. (Cow Bell Heaven)
4. MSU has really nothing to lose in this game.

I look for USC to win but it wouldn't surprise me if they had to pull it out late...

As far as the continuing argument goes....Have Fun! But keep it clean and don't say anything about family members in your rebuttals.

Even if you find out your somehow related...

[kinfolk41684]

Makes sense to me WDavE

[AceLeroy]

Upon further investigation, you are correct. I stand corrected. :happy:





Do you realize how lame that sounds? The fact of the matter is it wasn't a dominating score like you are trying to imply. I wouldn't send in my scrubs unless I'm up by at least 25 going into the 4th qtr. :ohmy:

Actually MSU was up by more than 25 with less than 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter. The Gators put up 2 TDs in about the last 4 minutes to pull within 12 points for the final score.

I'd say MSu dominated the game. We had a 4 possesion lead late in the 4th quarter and had over 350 yards RUSHING for the game.

[GamecockDieHard]

Unlike Spurrier and Tubberville, MSU has class. We don't like to run the score up on anyone.


I know what you're saying SVD because we've been beaten by blow-outs. However, we were up 28-0 during our last game and it didn't turn out too well for us. I think that's why alot of folks believe it's best to just keep scoring until the game is over. Don't change anything until you've won, 'cause you might lose!

As far as Spurrier running up the score and his lack of class. Spurrier always defended his scores by proving that he put in reserves and let them play the game. He never holds anyone back or ever plays conservatively with reserves. In his opinion, they've worked very hard, and deserve a chance to run the game plan that they've learned, just like the first team. If they can score then, he says, "I'm not going to apologize." Besides having a chance to lose, if you play conservatively, you can also get hurt. There's no such thing as playing half-speed in competitive football.

Now if we were to leave the first team in through the fourth quarter when we're up by a winning margin, that would be running up the score. I don't think that would happen, except maybe for cLIMPson to heal the Holtz loss.

[Williams-Brice]

You included too many words there, SVD.

This:

Unlike Spurrier and Tubberville, MSU has class. We don't like to run the score up on anyone.

Should be:

We don't like to score on anyone.

[USC_fanboy04]

Well didn't how much you beat your opp. by actually used to factor into the BCS? I thought i remembering it did? maybe not tho

[Gamecocks4Ever]

Well didn't how much you beat your opp. by actually used to factor into the BCS? I thought i remembering it did? maybe not tho

They may say that it doesn't now, but do you honestly believe that? You let #1 beat scrubs by 3-4 points for a few weeks and see what happens. It may only be in the polls voted on by humans, but the last time I checked, that was a fairly large percentage of the BCS ranking.

[jjj1]

Well if given the oppurtunity, I dont see Croom hesitating to run up the score on anyone. Just look at what he did in the last years opening game.

[Neo]

Well if given the oppurtunity, I dont see Croom hesitating to run up the score on anyone. Just look at what he did in the last years opening game.



I don't think he will have the offense to do it period. Your defense on paper looks pretty good, but the offense would have a hard time with the local Pop Warner team.


BTW: Comparing USC to Murray State is crazy.....To say the least. :ohmy:

[starkvilledawg]

Neo, I've been reading the posts for several weeks before joining on, and I have to say that I really don't think you have a clue what you are talking about. I will enjoy it when you are eating your words after the game.

[jjj1]

Oh by no means does Murray state compare to any SEC team. I was just stating that if Croom was given the oppurtunity to do so, I dont think he would pass it up. May Spurriers streak in Starkville continue !!!

[Neo]

Neo, I've been reading the posts for several weeks before joining on, and I have to say that I really don't think you have a clue what you are talking about. I will enjoy it when you are eating your words after the game.



Really? Let's look at the stats for 2005 per SECSports.com......


Record
USC - 7-5-0
MSU - 3-8-0

2005 Southeastern Conference Team Statistics Through games of Jan 11, 2006


SCORING OFFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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1. Auburn.............. 12 50 50 0 0 12 0 386 32.2
2. Georgia............. 13 45 45 0 0 23 0 384 29.5
3. LSU................. 13 48 45 1 0 14 3 383 29.5
4. Florida............. 12 43 40 0 1 13 2 343 28.6
5. Vanderbilt.......... 11 38 33 1 0 12 0 299 27.2
6. Arkansas............ 11 35 32 1 0 13 0 283 25.7
7. South Carolina...... 12 37 32 0 0 10 0 284 23.7
8. Alabama............. 12 30 28 1 0 17 1 263 21.9
9. Kentucky............ 11 29 27 0 0 12 1 239 21.7
10.Tennessee........... 11 23 21 1 0 14 1 205 18.6
11.Mississippi State... 11 19 18 0 0 7 0 153 13.9
12.Ole Miss............ 11 17 16 0 0 10 0 148 13.5

SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
--------------------------------------------------------------
1. Alabama............. 12 15 14 0 0 8 0 128 10.7
2. LSU................. 13 21 18 1 0 13 0 185 14.2
3. Auburn.............. 12 20 19 1 0 15 0 186 15.5
4. Georgia............. 13 27 24 0 0 9 0 213 16.4
5. Tennessee........... 11 21 20 0 0 19 1 205 18.6
6. Florida............. 12 30 28 0 0 6 0 226 18.8
7. Ole Miss............ 11 30 28 1 0 11 1 245 22.3
8. South Carolina...... 12 31 30 0 1 19 2 279 23.2
9. Mississippi State... 11 32 30 0 0 11 2 259 23.5
10.Arkansas............ 11 33 31 1 0 12 2 271 24.6
11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 40 38 1 0 13 1 321 29.2
12.Kentucky............ 11 49 45 0 0 12 0 375 34.1

PASS OFFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Vanderbilt.......... 11 467 274 9 58.7 3086 6.6 21 280.5
2. Georgia............. 13 363 201 7 55.4 2977 8.2 26 229.0
3. Florida............. 12 385 241 7 62.6 2720 7.1 20 226.7
4. LSU................. 13 359 215 10 59.9 2904 8.1 22 223.4
5. South Carolina...... 12 355 213 12 60.0 2649 7.5 21 220.8
6. Alabama............. 12 351 209 4 59.5 2597 7.4 16 216.4
7. Auburn.............. 12 339 195 8 57.5 2589 7.6 19 215.8
8. Ole Miss............ 11 371 197 18 53.1 2293 6.2 9 208.5
9. Tennessee........... 11 356 186 13 52.2 2178 6.1 11 198.0
10.Kentucky............ 11 304 178 9 58.6 1857 6.1 6 168.8
11.Arkansas............ 11 280 150 12 53.6 1581 5.6 13 143.7
12.Mississippi State... 11 302 146 10 48.3 1524 5.0 10 138.5

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Alabama............. 12 352 175 11 49.7 1929 5.5 9 160.8
2. Georgia............. 13 369 211 16 57.2 2205 6.0 8 169.6
3. LSU................. 13 431 204 10 47.3 2279 5.3 12 175.3
4. Ole Miss............ 11 311 176 6 56.6 1973 6.3 12 179.4
5. South Carolina...... 12 365 204 12 55.9 2238 6.1 10 186.5
6. Mississippi State... 11 315 193 12 61.3 2137 6.8 13 194.3
7. Auburn.............. 12 360 202 8 56.1 2388 6.6 8 199.0
8. Florida............. 12 375 196 16 52.3 2459 6.6 16 204.9
9. Arkansas............ 11 336 171 12 50.9 2303 6.9 20 209.4
10.Tennessee........... 11 364 218 9 59.9 2373 6.5 9 215.7
11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 326 188 8 57.7 2462 7.6 17 223.8
12.Kentucky............ 11 384 239 5 62.2 2676 7.0 24 243.3

KICKOFF RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
------------------------------------------------
1. Arkansas............ 11 33 965 1 29.2
2. Auburn.............. 12 26 711 1 27.3
3. Kentucky............ 11 42 1109 1 26.4
4. Alabama............. 12 18 400 0 22.2
5. South Carolina...... 12 39 832 0 21.3
6. Florida............. 12 30 618 0 20.6
7. Vanderbilt.......... 11 38 770 0 20.3
8. Tennessee........... 11 37 732 0 19.8
9. Mississippi State... 11 33 649 0 19.7
10.Georgia............. 13 28 545 0 19.5
11.LSU................. 13 24 409 0 17.0
12.Ole Miss............ 11 37 570 0 15.4

PUNTING G No. Yards Avg/P PR Avg TB Net/P
---------------------------------------------------------------
1. LSU................. 13 63 2575 40.9 80 1.3 2 39.0
2. Arkansas............ 11 50 2091 41.8 71 1.4 4 38.8
3. Georgia............. 13 57 2443 42.9 159 2.8 4 38.7
4. Florida............. 12 62 2542 41.0 60 1.0 6 38.1
5. Auburn.............. 12 47 2090 44.5 203 4.3 6 37.6
6. South Carolina...... 12 58 2322 40.0 124 2.1 1 37.6
7. Tennessee........... 11 59 2431 41.2 332 5.6 6 33.5
8. Ole Miss............ 11 66 2511 38.0 239 3.6 3 33.5
9. Kentucky............ 11 57 2012 35.3 134 2.4 0 32.9
10.Alabama............. 12 67 2495 37.2 209 3.1 5 32.6
11.Mississippi State... 11 71 2907 40.9 471 6.6 9 31.8
12.Vanderbilt.......... 11 53 2047 38.6 344 6.5 5 30.2

TOTAL OFFENSE G Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
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1. Auburn.............. 12 2329 2589 820 4918 6.0 47 409.8
2. Vanderbilt.......... 11 1266 3086 828 4352 5.3 37 395.6
3. Georgia............. 13 2108 2977 818 5085 6.2 42 391.2
4. LSU................. 13 1959 2904 869 4863 5.6 43 374.1
5. Florida............. 12 1761 2720 840 4481 5.3 39 373.4
6. Arkansas............ 11 2386 1581 761 3967 5.2 32 360.6
7. Alabama............. 12 1710 2597 814 4307 5.3 28 358.9
8. Tennessee........... 11 1411 2178 755 3589 4.8 21 326.3
9. South Carolina...... 12 1142 2649 720 3791 5.3 34 315.9
10.Kentucky............ 11 1415 1857 695 3272 4.7 27 297.5
11.Ole Miss............ 11 806 2293 703 3099 4.4 15 281.7
12.Mississippi State... 11 1514 1524 687 3038 4.4 19 276.2

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Alabama............. 12 1132 1929 713 3061 4.3 14 255.1
2. LSU................. 13 1190 2279 833 3469 4.2 20 266.8
3. Tennessee........... 11 907 2373 720 3280 4.6 17 298.2
4. Florida............. 12 1139 2459 748 3598 4.8 30 299.8
5. Georgia............. 13 1870 2205 855 4075 4.8 25 313.5
6. Auburn.............. 12 1395 2388 756 3783 5.0 19 315.2
7. Ole Miss............ 11 1686 1973 768 3659 4.8 27 332.6
8. Mississippi State... 11 1553 2137 734 3690 5.0 26 335.5
9. Arkansas............ 11 1458 2303 739 3761 5.1 33 341.9
10.South Carolina...... 12 2091 2238 873 4329 5.0 28 360.8
11.Vanderbilt.......... 11 1869 2462 742 4331 5.8 37 393.7
12.Kentucky............ 11 2159 2676 823 4835 5.9 46 439.5


Now please tell me how I don't know what I'm talking about??? Consider yourself....

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[pc72687]

Dang I think Neo wins in a 1st round knockout!

[blues_cap]

Dang I think Neo wins in a 1st round knockout!

im not sure how quoting last year's stats has anything to do with the upcoming game, especially in a whole different year. if you look at those stats, usc is ranked below uf in 95% and we both know how that turned out last year.

[Neo]

im not sure how quoting last year's stats has anything to do with the upcoming game, especially in a whole different year. if you look at those stats, usc is ranked below uf in 95% and we both know how that turned out last year.



Please tell me you aren't comparing yourselves to MSU? There's a big difference between UF and MSU. :happy:

[blues_cap]

Please tell me you aren't comparing yourselves to MSU? There's a big difference between UF and MSU. :happy:

nope, my contention is that last year's stats mean not a thing in this year's game...and really, as usc showed last year, they mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

of course, you can look and see that most of the sec's top teams are at the top of the stat sheet, but that does nothing going forward this year as it is last year's stat sheet. the only way this would hold any weight, imo, regarding this year's game is if both teams returned every player, which is impossible. different players, different year, different stats.

[goallthewayua]

nope, my contention is that last year's stats mean not a thing in this year's game...and really, as usc showed last year, they mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.

of course, you can look and see that most of the sec's top teams are at the top of the stat sheet, but that does nothing going forward this year as it is last year's stat sheet. the only way this would hold any weight, imo, regarding this year's game is if both teams returned every player, which is impossible. different players, different year, different stats.

hmmm, very good point, last year's stats were just that, last years, I'm looking forward to watching this game a lot more since joining this board. I had no idea MSU/USC even cared about each other, but to read these posts you would think it was Alabama and Auburn.

[CockyTatGuy]

hmmm, very good point, last year's stats were just that, last years, I'm looking forward to watching this game a lot more since joining this board. I had no idea MSU/USC even cared about each other, but to read these posts you would think it was Alabama and Auburn.

I never have cared about a MSU/USC game before this year, but it seems that alot of Klimpsun fans have moved to Mississippi in the past year. You gotta just let em talk about how good they will be until after their first 3 losses, or their first 3 games same difference.

[WDavE]

hmmm, very good point, last year's stats were just that, last years, I'm looking forward to watching this game a lot more since joining this board. I had no idea MSU/USC even cared about each other, but to read these posts you would think it was Alabama and Auburn.


Not even close to us..... Not enough venom nor history!

Just the first SEC game of the year........

[pc72687]

It is mainly just the fans being ignorant and thinking they will whip us when they play. I personally think SC will win but if MSU pulls it off it definitly won't be a blow out.

[WDavE]

Evidently, more then just MSU fans seem to think that they have a chance....

5. The SEC season will start with a bang on Thursday, Aug. 31, when Mississippi State beats South Carolina in a nationally televised game (ESPN, 8 p.m. ET), dropping Spurrier's record to 0-3 in Starkville, Miss. The Bulldogs will be another SEC team on the cusp of qualifying for a bowl game and might have to beat Alabama, coach Sylvester Croom's alma mater, in Tuscaloosa, Ala., on Nov. 4 to do it. The Gamecocks will take a big step back this season because of inexperience on defense (they might start four freshmen) and on the offensive line.

Mark Schlabach covers college football and men's college basketball for ESPN.com. You can contact him at schlabachma@yahoo.com.

[SHOCKTOP]

That's on so-called expert, but the boys in Vegas say otherwise.

[NineInchCock]

While we traditionally haven't always played well in opening games, we are playing a team that we have more talent than, and also, I think the offense is going to be even worse this year without Jerious Norwood. It'll be a little more close than some think, but I still think we'll take a solid win.

[Neo]

That's on so-called expert, but the boys in Vegas say otherwise.

Me too!!!! I'll trust the guys holding the dead presidents. Here's what a poster that resides in GA said on another site about that ESPN writer....


"Mark Schlabach was a hack sports writer based in Atlanta for awhile at the AJC, and I understand he moved to write for the sports section in the Washington Post, which is a step down for a sportswriter covering college sports.

Now, he is miserable up there, wishing he could get back to where he went to school (UGa J-school grad) and lived previously.

He is constantly interviewed on the radio in Atlanta by 680's Buck Belue, as he enjoys Buck's jockstrap immensely. I remember Mark picking us to win 2-3 games last year. Said we had nobody to step up and win more than 2-3 games in '05. He was wrong.

Now he predicts a loss next Thursday. This guy will go out of his way to downplay USC, its team and its coach. He always did, and he always will.

He is lower than Lee, and is totally out of touch with SEC football while living in DC. What a moron."

[Neo]

While we traditionally haven't always played well in opening games, we are playing a team that we have more talent than, and also, I think the offense is going to be even worse this year without Jerious Norwood. It'll be a little more close than some think, but I still think we'll take a solid win.



What? We've won something to the tune of 7 out of the last 9 season openings. :ohmy:

[NineInchCock]

Yes, we've won them, but other than the Vandy game, none of them have been major blowouts. We've always played kinda shaky, but always win (at least most of the time). I think this game will follow that pattern, and it will be closer (around a 14 victory) because we lax up too much in the second half.

And... once again... the supreme assclown Lee Corso strikes again:

As Lee Corso said today on radio.."We had our guys that went to S.Car last week then two days later were at MSU and they came back saying MSU looked better coached..bigger..and faster." "SCar better come ready to play"

He's worse than a tater fan!

[Neo]

How does a coach with an overall losing record become an analyst with ESPN???? :laugh:


Lee Corso doesn't know his head from a dead moose's butt. :laugh:

[scfan5338]

Yes, we've won them, but other than the Vandy game, none of them have been major blowouts. We've always played kinda shaky, but always win (at least most of the time). I think this game will follow that pattern, and it will be closer (around a 14 victory) because we lax up too much in the second half.

And... once again... the supreme assclown Lee Corso strikes again:



He's worse than a tater fan!

He's on drugs. Better coached?????

[shanksta13]

Lee Corso doesn't know his head from a dead moose's butt. :laugh:

You can't really blame him, though... there aren't that many differences! :laugh:

[pc72687]

They need something to chat about and people like to hear about Spurrier. Spefically since he is now at SC instead of UF and his number of wins is kinda up in the air. It makes for interesting banter that others want to listen to.