adam wade longsnapper/linebacker

[bruintime]

How could South Carolina lose the best longsnapper in highschool to Middle Tennessee State? This kid squats over 500, benches 330 and runs a 4'9 and is considered the best longsnapper around. He had 176 tackles for the season @ his highschool in Florence,SC. What is USC's problem with recruiting.

[geechee]

How could South Carolina lose the best longsnapper in highschool to Middle Tennessee State? This kid squats over 500, benches 330 and runs a 4'9 and is considered the best longsnapper around. He had 176 tackles for the season @ his highschool in Florence,SC. What is USC's problem with recruiting.

There does seem to be a little breakdown in y'alls recruiting process. I know Hunter and GN have both mentioned that SOS does not enjoy the recruiting, which I was unaware of but, the head coach should not be in charge of recruiting anyway. According to the rumors there is a problem with the personal attention paid to the players when they make visits to the school. I know that has been a big factor with AJ Green. He has not committed yet but he is leaning heavily towards Athens now because of a fantastic visit he had at UGA which was followed up by a so-so visit in Columbia. He still has two years of school left so anything can happen but from what I understand, he is the single best player in the state and to lose him and to a major rival would be a setback.

[Williams-Brice]

How could South Carolina lose the best longsnapper in highschool to Middle Tennessee State? This kid squats over 500, benches 330 and runs a 4'9 and is considered the best longsnapper around. He had 176 tackles for the season @ his highschool in Florence,SC. What is USC's problem with recruiting.

How many long snappers do you want to take up a scholarship? We already have 2 out of our 85 scholarships being given to long snappers. If he was the best long snapper across the board and a good linebacker to go along with it, then he wouldn't have ended up at Middle Tennessee State. He wouldn't have been given two stars by rivals, and he would have been offered by other schools.

Asking what USC's problem with recruiting just shows that you really aren't keeping up with it. We needed every one of the guys we got last year, and we had no room for long snappers. Fast forward to this year. There are only a few teams in the country who are outdoing us right now.

[Williams-Brice]

There does seem to be a little breakdown in y'alls recruiting process. I know Hunter and GN have both mentioned that SOS does not enjoy the recruiting, which I was unaware of but, the head coach should not be in charge of recruiting anyway. According to the rumors there is a problem with the personal attention paid to the players when they make visits to the school. I know that has been a big factor with AJ Green. He has not committed yet but he is leaning heavily towards Athens now because of a fantastic visit he had at UGA which was followed up by a so-so visit in Columbia. He still has two years of school left so anything can happen but from what I understand, he is the single best player in the state and to lose him and to a major rival would be a setback.

Where is the breakdown, and where is the rumor coming from? It's no secret that SOS prefers to let the assistants do the recruiting. I am a tour guide for prospective students, and I give tours to football recruits when they come for official visits. I can tell you that there is plenty of attention given to each recruit.

We'll see on Green. I don't doubt he'll end up at Georgia. However, I think it's a little premature to crown a rising Junior as the best high school player in the state.

[geechee]

Where is the breakdown, and where is the rumor coming from? It's no secret that SOS prefers to let the assistants do the recruiting. I am a tour guide for prospective students, and I give tours to football recruits when they come for official visits. I can tell you that there is plenty of attention given to each recruit.

We'll see on Green. I don't doubt he'll end up at Georgia. However, I think it's a little premature to crown a rising Junior as the best high school player in the state.

W-B I've read it in a couple of articles. Here is a second hand account on a SC high school sports blog.

http://palmettofootballtalk.com/viewtopic.php?t=17550

Read the first post by Jolly Green Giant. This post is from March. Green has stated publicly since then that he is leaning towards UGA. If I was an SC booster this post would really piss me off and I would be making a few phone calls.

[GatorHunter]

Spurrier has stated many times...while at UF at least...that he's not gonna beg any player to come to UF...he recruited on UF's name alone...sure he delegated his assistants to do the most recruiting...but these kids want to talk to the head coach. Look at other "big name" programs, UGA, LSU...give them a coach that can recruit..Richt, Saban, and the programs go through the roof...imagine how good UF would have been if SOS didn't love golf so much and did a little recruiting.

[Williams-Brice]

I understand what y'all are saying, and I can assure you that Spurrier is spending plenty of 1 on 1 time with these kids when they are here. He also realizes that he himself has to hit the recruiting trail now. This is the first year he ever set foot on a high school campus during the May evaluation period.

[geechee]

I understand what y'all are saying, and I can assure you that Spurrier is spending plenty of 1 on 1 time with these kids when they are here. He also realizes that he himself has to hit the recruiting trail now. This is the first year he ever set foot on a high school campus during the May evaluation period.

Yes but, I can see no reason that a star SC athlete who is projected to be the #1 athlete in the state by the time he graduates, would have walked away from his first campus visit with such a bad taste in his mouth. From what was said in that post, he sort of felt that it was not such a warm welcome.

[Williams-Brice]

Yes but, I can see no reason that a star SC athlete who is projected to be the #1 athlete in the state by the time he graduates, would have walked away from his first campus visit with such a bad taste in his mouth. From what was said in that post, he sort of felt that it was not such a warm welcome.

I wonder who his source was. I have been involved with several recruiting functions with the coaches, and never have I seen anything like that. If it's true, then our "head of football operations" should be ashamed.

I worked recruing for the Florida game, and every assisstant coach had one on one time with the recruits, including Spurrier. I find it hard to believe that they would invest a lot of time in recruits less than two hours before a game, but they would neglect to spend time with one in the off season. From what I've seen out of this staff, some things just aren't adding up for me.

I will agree that SOS will not beg a kid to play for him. Brian Maddox was quoted saying that Carolina was the only school that didn't include with their scholarship offer a promise to start from day 1. I think that's the way it should be. The last staff here made a lot of promises. Spurrier has made only one; he's promised to work his butt off on and off the field to make this progam the place to be.

[cocky4ever]

So we lose a long snapper and the "Spurrier cant recruit" stuff comes up again. Jeez, I think the man has an idea on how to get a program running smoothly. Give the man a break and quit jumping down his throat for every long snapper we dont sign:rolleyes:

[GamecockDieHard]

Yes but, I can see no reason that a star SC athlete who is projected to be the #1 athlete in the state by the time he graduates, would have walked away from his first campus visit with such a bad taste in his mouth. From what was said in that post, he sort of felt that it was not such a warm welcome.


Well first of all, he's a kid and may have expected some kind of star treatment that Spurrier doesn't do. We've had bad luck with the prima dona's that get the red carpet. But you make a valid point. Spurrier will make adjustments as needed to improve recruiting but I don't see him bending rules much less breaking any. We're upgrading the living quarters with beds that actually fit large guys (duhhh!) and we're in bad need of a decent Academic Center, which is on the way. All in all we should be more competitive once we improve some of our facilities. But I wouldn't lay it all at the feet of Spurrier not being willing to do the work required to recruit or not showing enough interest. That would be a little hard to believe, IMO.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

So we lose a long snapper and the "Spurrier cant recruit" stuff comes up again. Jeez, I think the man has an idea on how to get a program running smoothly. Give the man a break and quit jumping down his throat for every long snapper we dont sign:rolleyes:
I heard the best Water Boy in South Carolina bypassed us to carry water for the Mt. Pisgah Community College Fighting Dragons. We need to fire that dang-blasted Steve Spurrier. :angry:

[Dr. Pepper]

We are doing just fine, thank you very much. If Spurrier keeps his health, SC will have a premier program in the NCAA. You guys said he wouldn't be able to get anyone from Florida, yet we are getting them, and more and more seem to be interested in the future. We are getting a good group of the top SC guys which we did not get before. We cannot expect to get them all. In two years, Spurrier will be "cherry picking" from the best.

[GatorHunter]

We are doing just fine, thank you very much. If Spurrier keeps his health, SC will have a premier program in the NCAA. You guys said he wouldn't be able to get anyone from Florida, yet we are getting them, and more and more seem to be interested in the future. We are getting a good group of the top SC guys which we did not get before. We cannot expect to get them all. In two years, Spurrier will be "cherry picking" from the best.

Everyone is getting players from Florida this year because the state is freakin' loaded...Florida tends to lead the nation in HS talent...but I've never saw so much talent in one year as this. Not to mention f$u and scUM have very few schollies to offer this year.

[cocky4ever]

Everyone is getting players from Florida this year because the state is freakin' loaded...Florida tends to lead the nation in HS talent...but I've never saw so much talent in one year as this. Not to mention f$u and scUM have very few schollies to offer this year.
We've gotten talent from FL the last two years as well.

[GatorHunter]

We've gotten talent from FL the last two years as well.

Not arguing that....just saying it should be "easy" to get highly touted players from Florida this year because of the numbers.

[Williams-Brice]

Got any long snappers down there who we should be looking at, GH?

Heheh; the first post in this thread still makes me laugh.

[GatorHunter]

Got any long snappers down there who we should be looking at, GH?

Heheh; the first post in this thread still makes me laugh.

I totally agree...why would you burn a schollie on a "walk-on" position?

[Williams-Brice]

We have at least one (Ike Crofoot) on scholarship. Maybe two (Scott Morgan). However, is it necessary to carry three? We've got 18,000 undergrads here. If Crofoot and Morgan go down, then I'm they'll find some solution.

[pc72687]

Longsnapper isn't a big needs position in my opinion. Many walkons tryout for that position because it is a place they can get onto the team easier then say WR or LB.

[GatorHunter]

Longsnapper isn't a big needs position in my opinion. Many walkons tryout for that position because it is a place they can get onto the team easier then say WR or LB.

Your absolutely right...and I agree with you guys...but, you have to admit...when your kicker is lining up for FG....down by 2 with 2 seconds left on the clock in the 4th quarter....you're sure hopin' he's on scholarship!!!!! :ohmy:

[scfan5338]

Your absolutely right...and I agree with you guys...but, you have to admit...when your kicker is lining up for FG....down by 2 with 2 seconds left on the clock in the 4th quarter....you're sure hopin' he's on scholarship!!!!! :ohmy:

hahaha definetly. You know if he miss snaps and you figure out he's not on a scholly you be mad why you dont have a long snapper on scholly.

[Williams-Brice]

Most schools do have a scholarship long snapper. I was always told that long snapping was the easiest way to get a college scholarship. And I would assume that it would probably be the easiest position to walk onto the team for.

[GatorHunter]

Most schools do have a scholarship long snapper. I was always told that long snapping was the easiest way to get a college scholarship. And I would assume that it would probably be the easiest position to walk onto the team for.

You were told right! A good friend of mine received a scholly to Troy State University in the late 80's (it's now called Troy University) as a "long-snapper"...there is an art to it...you have to spin the ball...spiral it to the punter or holder...anyway, he wasn't very athletic...but he could sure snap a ball....Spurs usually would let walk-ons do it during the pre-season...take the best one and if a scholly opened up...give it to him...I can't ever remember a coach "recruiting" a long-snapper.

[Williams-Brice]

I was our long snapper in high school, and I can tell you that there is certainly an art to it. It's really just like throwing the ball, except with two hands. . .and beneath your legs. Hah! I always enjoyed it, especially when we were punting because I was usually the first one down there. It was a free chance to hit someone when they weren't expecting it.

[larryt4111]

Longsnapper isn't a big needs position in my opinion. Many walkons tryout for that position because it is a place they can get onto the team easier then say WR or LB.

I agree,
We need BEEF, head hunting LB's, and SPEEDY tall WR's, Fill the snapper position with walk-ons. Those are the players in demand across the nation and it's getting harder to get the cream of these guys.
We need to sign as many of these guys as we have scholarships for EVERY YEAR ! and YES, SOS will be cherry picking very soon.

[bruintime]

Well it was great to hear of all the responses about USC losing Adam Wade. I just randomly picked this kid because I have actually watched him play and longsnapping was just icing on the cake for him. He is short at 5'9 but very quick and very strong in the 4A ranks in SC. I still hold my stand that we need to give a few scholarships to kids like this at bigger schools. Coach Stockstill also gave a kicker a full scholarship. Why can't we do this at USC. I guess since I am short I was just glad to see this straight A student (I found out later) get awarded something great. i am tired of the thugs getting everything and then flunking or getting kicked off.

[GAMECOCKBOY]

we have a kicker on full scholie his name is succup...if u want to be a snapper walk on and maybe if we have a scholie for u we will give it...

[scfan5338]

right now we are on probation and we cant afford to give schollys away to longsnappers. im sorry but longsnapper are not worth a scholly. thats a walkons job.

[Williams-Brice]

Well it was great to hear of all the responses about USC losing Adam Wade.[/QOUTE]

USC didn't lose him. USC didn't offer him. USC wasn't interested in him.

[QUOTE]I just randomly picked this kid because I have actually watched him play and longsnapping was just icing on the cake for him. He is short at 5'9 but very quick and very strong in the 4A ranks in SC. I still hold my stand that we need to give a few scholarships to kids like this at bigger schools.

We have to be very selective with our scholarships until we have quality depth at each position. We don't need to give scholarships to anyone unless we feel as though they can compete for us on the football field in the SEC. Obviously, our coaches didn't feel as though he could compete. There are no scholarships given out as rewards for kids who won't be able to play.

Coach Stockstill also gave a kicker a full scholarship. Why can't we do this at USC.

Ryan Succop was the #4 kicker in the country when he signed with USC in Spurrier's first class.

I guess since I am short I was just glad to see this straight A student (I found out later) get awarded something great. i am tired of the thugs getting everything and then flunking or getting kicked off.

We have had only three academic casualties under Spurrier. Jarriel King didn't qualify, Lindsay was suspended (not kicked off), and we lost an unknown player last week due to academics. There has only been one Spurrier-recruited player to get kicked off the team, and that was Shea McKeen. Now compare those four guys out of the 52 Spurrier has brought in with the numerous guys that Holtz signed and never brought in.

[bruintime]

Yes I agree with a lot of things that have been said. I meant to say that we have not given a punter a scholarship. Also Adam Wade was invited to be a preferred walkon and redshirt his freshman year. cCoach Cooper is the one that said he would put him on after his freshman year but Spurrier would not guarantee that which I can understand. Coach Stockstill gave him a full ride but is also looking at him some at fullback. One of the coaches at South florence gave me this info. It is also hard to believe that on signing day Adam Wade was the only division 1 that signed in the Pee Dee area. What is up with the academics? This is the reason most kids are not making d-1. I was a kicker back in the 70's and I have to agree that Wade made the right decesion to take a full ride over a walkon. What would you have done?

[GAMECOCKBOY]

if my parents could afford it i would be a walk on...i get to play for one of the best coaches in the country and in the best conference in the nation

[Williams-Brice]

I could have played small college ball if I had gone after it. I wanted to be a student at USC, so I never went after small college ball. That's what Foxy Foxworth just did. He turned down several D-1AA offers to walk-on here. I have to believe I would have done the same thing.

[bruintime]

yes but middle tennessee is not D1-AA, they are the same as USC division 1 A
They are playing Oklahoma, maryland, lousville (espn2) and south carolina as non conference games. they are in the sun belt conference.

[bruintime]

Also think about if you were to get hurt as a walkon. You have nothing. A full ride you are guananteed your scholarship