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TrueGCFan
05-25-2006, 08:26 AM
By Tom Luginbill
Scouts Inc.

For fans and coaches alike, the coaching profession, at almost every level, is a "what have you done for me lately" proposition, where you are considered to be only as good as your last game.


However, in the eyes of high school prospects considering where to play football over the next four to five years, a coach's entire reputation, not just his most recent success or failure, can be a huge factor in the decision-making process. No other coach in America has that going for him as much as South Carolina's Steve Spurrier.


Players at all positions look at the commitment or signing of a top quarterback as a sign a program is headed in the right direction, as is the case with Jimmy Clausen at Notre Dame. It can cause a domino effect.



ESPN.com graded Spurrier's 2006 class as a C+.
Last year's class featured underrated signal-caller Chris Smelley, an accurate quarterback with timing and the ability to push the ball downfield off play-action -- all hallmarks of Spurrier's former successful quarterbacks. His 2006 class was marred and probably hampered a bit by some NCAA sanctions against the program, and so with the 2007 class looming, look for the Gamecocks to make a dent similar to what Ole Miss did in the 2006 class, with possible difference makers at several positions on both sides of the ball.


As it stands now, both of South Carolina's verbal commitments come from players who will probably make the initial ESPN 150 when we release it this summer. Both CB Gary Gray (Columbia, S.C.-Richland Northeast) and OT Quinton Richardson (Columbia, S.C.-Spring Valley) have chosen to stay in town, important gets because Clemson beat South Carolina on many kids last year.


But Spurrier's influence doesn't end at the state borders, and he is looking far and wide for another top signal caller. He has impressed Tim Brewster, Denver Broncos tight ends coach and father of highly-rated QB prospect Clint Brewster (Denver, Colo.-Mullen).
"When Steve Spurrier has interest in you, you are going to listen," he said. "Clint has South Carolina near the top of his choices."

Spurrier also hasn't forgotten how to recruit Florida, and he is trying to stake his claim to some of the state's top recruits. Stephen Garcia (Tampa, Fla.-Jefferson), a top Florida quarterback, has South Carolina as one of his top choices.

Said Gary Garcia, the prspect's father, "If Spurrier wasn't at South Carolina, we would not be considering them."

Wide receiver Dion LeCorn (Ocala, Fla.-Trinity Catholic) echoed those sentiments to the Gainesville Sun, saying "the biggest selling point South Carolina has is Steve Spurrier."



Many prognosticators who felt Spurrier was making a mistake by taking over the program at South Carolina have never actually been on the campus in Columbia nor ever been to a game. I have, and I can tell you first-hand that South Carolina has all the makings of a top-notch program and is a potential sleeping giant if the right person is at the helm. I believe Spurrier saw a diamond in the rough and jumped at the opportunity to build from the ground up.


The Gamecocks have great tradition, a loyal, unbelievable following, fantastic facilities and premier conference membership in the ever-so-tough SEC. Outside of an Alabama or a Tennessee, how many programs have proven that whether they are 11-1 or 1-11, 85,000 fans will show up to each home game? If it can be done at Virginia Tech, Wisconsin and Louisville, it can be done at South Carolina.


The big, glaring negative, though, is why no one has been able to elevate this program to elite status. There has been an 8-4 season here and there, and a 9-3 season once in a blue moon, but there have been few bowl wins and even fewer consecutive winning seasons in recent history.


That's where Spurrier comes in, and whether you love him or hate him, you have to respect his ability to recruit and coach the offensive side of the ball. This is the No. 1 reason why he was hired; forget all the antics, forget the ego, forget the weekly visor toss -- the bottom line is he has a proven history of not only winning, but winning in style.


I said on air on ESPNU last fall on several occasions that some upper-echelon prospects will now take a long hard look at South Carolina, particularly on the offensive side. Spurrier's proven history of tutoring quarterbacks into Heisman candidates has always been his big selling point.


With the surprising success South Carolina had on the field in 2005, coupled with several national television appearances, the stars may be starting to align for this program. With success on the field comes greater opportunities to be successful on the recruiting trail and vice versa, and right now Spurrier is carrying a big stick on that trail.


It only takes a few players in each class to turn a program around over a 5-6 year period, and if one of those players is a quarterback who ends up making a difference early on, then getting over the hump tends to be a lot smoother ride. He and his staff are going to take some lumps along the way on the field in the SEC, but each and every one of the coaches in the SEC knows South Carolina is a contender on the recruiting front because of one guy.
Tom Luginbill is the national recruiting director for ESPN's Scouts Inc.">Scouts Inc. He is a former quarterback, scout and coach.

Clempsun
05-25-2006, 08:56 AM
Gray is the real deal but it's not over with that kid - I won't be at all surprised to see that kid sign elsewhere. As far as the rest of it goes I'm a bit confused about the quote below. Carolina does have a loyal, unbelievable following and they are in a great conference but the rest of the article really contradicts the part about the tradition ... the guys article slams Carolina's history basically as a total failure and praises Spurrier as the guy who will turn it around - how is that great tradition? As far as facilities go you only have to listen to the coach to get the feel for where Carolina (not their fans) thinks they are. Truthfully, compared to the programs that Carolina aspires to beat ... Georgia, Florida, Clemson, Tennessee ... not even close. 100 Million $ would change that drastically though. Spurrier's good but nobody's good enough to overcome the facilities issue he's up against (he's the first one to admit that). Flame away Carolina fans but the truth is the truth.




By Tom Luginbill
Scouts Inc.



The Gamecocks have great tradition, a loyal, unbelievable following, fantastic facilities and premier conference membership in the ever-so-tough SEC.

Williams-Brice
05-25-2006, 09:14 AM
Gray is the real deal but it's not over with that kid - I won't be at all surprised to see that kid sign elsewhere.

You make very good points in your post. Very good. We have a long, long way to go, especially in the facilities upgrade campaign. We are going to be improving our facilities, but at the same time, so will all the schools we are trying to compete against.

However, I don't understand where you are coming from with the Gary Gray thing. He has said since the day he committed that he is 100% Carolina. He is even recruiting for us. Why would someone persuade other players to come here if he wasn't 100% committed?

No flame from me. Everything you said about our program and ESPN/Scout's article was dead on.

Clempsun
05-25-2006, 09:24 AM
to go to Clemson. That may just be wishful thinking on the part of Tiger fans but I've heard it on the radio too. If he's recruiting kids for USC then I agree, it's probably in stone. Who knows ... kids do surprising things. I heard it straight from a Clemson coach though that it's not over with Gray. Maybe he meant that as far as he's concerned it's not ... but it very well could be as far as Gray's concerned.

Williams-Brice
05-25-2006, 09:36 AM
Yeah, he was quoted this weekend as saying he was 100% Carolina, and when he gave his Top 8 before he committed, Clemson wasn't listed. He said he wasn't going to visit Clemson because he had no interest and they were a non-factor. It may be wishful thinking by Clemson fans, but all I've heard from their fans is that Gray is too small and slow and yada yada yada.

pc72687
05-25-2006, 09:39 AM
I will never count my chickens until they hatch but if there has ever been a truly solid commitment Gary Grey seems to be the one. I also believe that Q. Richardson is also pretty dang solid.

On the bright side of the negative points, there are plenty of very well off SC fans and WB might be able to shed more light into this but I have heard many of these well off individuals have contacted Hyman already.

Clempsun
05-25-2006, 09:43 AM
I guess that's the story then. People saying Gray is too short is a laugh ... basically, if the coaching staff wants him, who cares what fans say about height. Good luck to him - he should get an early shot at playing time too.

Clempsun
05-25-2006, 09:46 AM
What we all need is a Murphy Farms type contributor ... remember the guy that gave NC State 100MM and said "Go win the national championship" ... unfortunately for Amato, along with that kind of commitment comes large expectations. He'd better start getting something done there or he's gonna have to put the ruby slippers in his suitcase.

Williams-Brice
05-25-2006, 09:57 AM
I guess that's the story then. People saying Gray is too short is a laugh ... basically, if the coaching staff wants him, who cares what fans say about height. Good luck to him - he should get an early shot at playing time too.

It is rather laughable, especially coming from Clemson fans. Their star DB, Tye Hill, was drafted in the first round this year. However, if anyone else has a CB his size, then he is too short. Well, if Gray is too short, then why did Michigan, Texas, Southern Cal, Georgia, Florida, and Florida State (among many others) offer him. If he is too short, then why was only one pass attempt completed against him at the combine last weekend?

I agree with you. Early playing time is in the near future for Gray.

uga_alum_93
05-26-2006, 07:32 AM
By Tom Luginbill
Scouts Inc.


The Gamecocks have great tradition :rolling2:

Are you kidding me? Who is this guy? One 10-win season in their 110+ year history and no Top 10 finishes....EVER. Man if that is "great" tradition we must look like the New York Yankees.

Williams-Brice
05-26-2006, 08:11 AM
We have the tradition of the Chicago Cubs, and I'm not afraid to say it. Never great, but always something likable and sexy about us. You are wrong, however, in saying that our "great" tradition makes Georgia look like the Yankees. We reserve that spot for teams who have actually won more than one championship in modern history.

pc72687
05-26-2006, 10:40 AM
Oh, Burn....Burn!!

scfan5338
05-26-2006, 10:53 AM
now i remember the guy on here that i couldnt stand.

scfan5338
05-26-2006, 10:56 AM
:rolling2:

Are you kidding me? Who is this guy? One 10-win season in their 110+ year history and no Top 10 finishes....EVER. Man if that is "great" tradition we must look like the New York Yankees.


If you ask anyone of this country and if they know even a little bit about South Carolina, they will tell you that we have great great tradition. We dont win but we have the most loyal fans a team could ask for. The article mentioned, we went 0-11 in Holtz's first year but we sold out every single game. Dont tell me if UGA went 0-11 every single seat would be sold out. You are pretty arrogant as I see it, and many people on this board would agree. You haven't had a nice thing to say about USC since you came on this board.

uga_alum_93
05-26-2006, 04:11 PM
We have the tradition of the Chicago Cubs, and I'm not afraid to say it. Never great, but always something likable and sexy about us. You are wrong, however, in saying that our "great" tradition makes Georgia look like the Yankees. We reserve that spot for teams who have actually won more than one championship in modern history.

All I am saying is if you look @ the past 110+ years of Gamecock Football and say "great tradition" what do you say about just the past 4 years of UGA Football. 44 Wins, 3 SEC East Titles, 2 SEC Championships. We've accomplished more the past few years than you have over a century. So I ask...if the Gamecocks have "great" tradition what do you call our tradition?

pc72687
05-26-2006, 04:30 PM
People always feel a need to go and flame. I guess it makes them feel better. Not sure why but it has been going on for centuries and will continue to. Yes, we now know thanks to UGA-ALUM that UGA is THE best program in the uberverse and we all must bow down in submission to their greatness. Maybe one day, if we worship the great UGA and make pentences, then we will get a ever so small taste of that GODLINESS that UGA has attained. We worship thee UGA!

uga_alum_93
05-26-2006, 04:57 PM
People always feel a need to go and flame. I guess it makes them feel better. Not sure why but it has been going on for centuries and will continue to. Yes, we now know thanks to UGA-ALUM that UGA is THE best program in the uberverse and we all must bow down in submission to their greatness. Maybe one day, if we worship the great UGA and make pentences, then we will get a ever so small taste of that GODLINESS that UGA has attained. We worship thee UGA!
:goodjob: That's more like it

No, in all seriousness I think we have "good" tradition not "great." I reserve great for the Notre Dames, Oklahomas & Alabamas of the college football world. That is why I had such a laugh in reading the article. IMHO there is only 1 "great" winning tradition in the SEC and that is Alabama. The "good" starts with UT and goes down to UGA, LSU, Florida, Auburn & Arkansas. The rest haven't won enough in my opinion to be classified as having "good" tradition. Note: I know Ole Miss has won a NC but they haven't won the SEC in decades.

DELTOR
05-26-2006, 07:13 PM
Tradition is not a synonym for winning, as you're making it out to be.

geechee
05-26-2006, 07:24 PM
Tradition is not a synonym for winning, as you're making it out to be.

For the most part, tradition in the NCAA does center around historical winning programs.

GamecockDieHard
05-26-2006, 07:53 PM
Tradition can be just great football. Sure, we've lost more than we've won in over 100 years. But a game is also about the contest. You can't deny that Georgia has won many over us that they weren't too sure would go their way until the end. That's great football any way you look at it. It's not a win but it's competitive. I think that's what he meant by tradition. I agree, however, that traditional winning is better than traditional close games. The sad part about all of this is that those fans in winning programs actually think it means something regarding their personal success in life. At Carolina, at least we know that we're no better or worse as people based on what our team does. I honestly don't think some fans from winning schools really understand what that means. They ARE somebody 'cause they're (fill in the blank) Fans, and their team wins! That's pretty sad.

geechee
05-26-2006, 08:01 PM
I did not mention a word about Georgia or SC. I was only responding to the comment "Tradition is not a synonym for winning, as you're making it out to be." uga_alum also stated that he thought UGA had a good tradition but not a great one. I have great respect for you 8th Staters and the way you support your team. I think most UGA fans do also.

GamecockDieHard
05-26-2006, 08:57 PM
8th staters??

geechee
05-26-2006, 09:44 PM
8th staters??

I picked that up from my low country friends in, Beaufort, HH, Charleston, etc. How long have you lived in SC?

Williams-Brice
05-27-2006, 06:11 AM
So I ask...if the Gamecocks have "great" tradition what do you call our tradition?

Boston Red Sox. One championship in modern history. Annoying and obnoxious fan base. National media is all over their junk, yet no one outside of their fan base really gives a crap whether they win, lose, exist, fall off the face of the earth, etc. like the national media thinks we do.

GTmorris1970
05-27-2006, 06:54 AM
to go to Clemson. That may just be wishful thinking on the part of Tiger fans but I've heard it on the radio too. If he's recruiting kids for USC then I agree, it's probably in stone. Who knows ... kids do surprising things. I heard it straight from a Clemson coach though that it's not over with Gray. Maybe he meant that as far as he's concerned it's not ... but it very well could be as far as Gray's concerned.

No flames here from me either. You made some good, valid points in your previous posts. Gray is probably the most firm early commit I have ever seen. Spurrier himself has even said Gray is one of Carolina's top recruiters right now. He will be a five star recruit on Monday, and thrashed the competition at the recent combine from what has been reported. I feel sure he will start as a true freshman, and he has said himself he does not wish to be contacted by any other schools, and is glad the recruiting process is over with.

pc72687
05-27-2006, 08:56 AM
Gray will replace Bennet next year, no doubt. But Thomas must not be as good over there as many thought since I heard Spurrier was talking of letting one of our safeties move over to corner.

frygator
05-27-2006, 12:32 PM
The kid(Gary Gray) received great reviews at the Nike combine in Gainesville. I also talked to someone in attendance, and he said he was the best CB there. He dominated every WR he faced.

While you always want a certain height/weight at a given position, measurables can help a player transcend his perceived shortcomings.

Vernell Brown was our best CB last year and he is 5'8 160.

pc72687
05-28-2006, 03:46 PM
Definitly, size isn't everything. Admitily it has some pull but in the end how the player plays has much more importance then how big or little he is.