View Full Version : 12-0 for LSU in 2006?
GeauxTo
05-11-2006, 08:09 PM
Lafayette Tiger fan DandyDon thinks LSU has a good chance of going 12-0. Here's his reasoning:
In my opinion, LSU has a great chance at going 12-0 if the team can stay free of major injuries in the offensive line and at the linebacker position. The offensive line is going to be very good, but very thin depth-wise. I think the key to the success of the offensive line will be the return of Ryan Miller and the health of Brett Helms and Will Arnold. I believe that Arnold and Helms are two of the best offensive linemen in the SEC and we need them to stay injury-free all season. As for the linebacker position, I believe that Ali Highsmith, Luke Sanders and Darry Beckwith are going to be very good and I believe that Jacob Cutrera and Dominic Cooper are going to be very good back-up linebackers. Coach Miles will be in big trouble if one or more of the starting linebackers are out for any length of time. The worse I see the 2006 team going is 9-3.
I believe the three hardest games on the 2006 schedule will be at Auburn, Florida and Arkansas. The thing that concerns me the most is that these three teams have solid quarterbacks who can throw the football and have great running backs. In my opinion, LSU has as much or more talent than the three teams named above and is very capable of winning all three games because LSU is a very good road team.
geechee
05-11-2006, 08:27 PM
Looking at your schedule Geaux, you only have the four road games this season but none of them are patsies. If I were you I would be concerned about that Nov 4 game in Knoxville also. The UT we see this year will not be the same UT we saw last year. Also facing Auburn on the plains in your second game of the year and first SEC is not the best of situations. UF is going to be out for blood against y'all at the Swamp after that last season debacle for them. That might be the toughest win for you right there. I'm not sure I see y'all or any SEC team going undefeated but y'all are the class of the conference at this point at least.
GatorNation
05-12-2006, 10:14 AM
UF is going to be out for blood against y'all at the Swamp after that last season debacle for them. That might be the toughest win for you right there. I'm not sure I see y'all or any SEC team going undefeated but y'all are the class of the conference at this point at least.
I wouldn't exactly call a 4-point loss on the road, especially in Death Valley, a "debacle."
Also, as a side note, Herbstreit said UF was the most talented team in the SEC this year....
Let the Gator hating begin.
;)
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 01:00 PM
I wouldn't exactly call a 4-point loss on the road, especially in Death Valley, a "debacle."
Also, as a side note, Herbstreit said UF was the most talented team in the SEC this year....
Let the Gator hating begin.
;)
Yea...I wouldn't use the word "debacle" either...although, our offense was offensive...
I think overall, UF has the most talent in the SEC...however, I'm not predicting MNC or even SEC championships with this schedule.
GAMECOCK_FAN
05-12-2006, 01:07 PM
Let the Gator hating begin.
;)
Begin? Heck, the Gator hating began a long time ago........
j/k GatorNation. Actually, I have no ill feelings for the Gators.
geechee
05-12-2006, 01:07 PM
I wouldn't exactly call a 4-point loss on the road, especially in Death Valley, a "debacle."
Also, as a side note, Herbstreit said UF was the most talented team in the SEC this year....
Let the Gator hating begin.
;)
de·ba·cle (d-bäkl, -bkl, db-kl) noun: A total, often ludicrous failure.
lu·di·crous (ld-krs) adj :Laughable or hilarious because of obvious absurdity or incongruity.
The biggest story about the game was that your coach broke down and cried on national television and has been call the cry baby ever since. When was the last time you saw an SEC coach cry like that on national TV because he lost a game. He said in that interview that the whole team was in the locker room balling their eyes out. The second biggest story was that you played a team that turned the ball over five times to y'all's zero and you still lost. When was time last time you lost to a team when you had zero turnovers and the opponent had five?
DELTOR
05-12-2006, 01:37 PM
I wouldn't exactly call a 4-point loss on the road, especially in Death Valley, a "debacle."
Also, as a side note, Herbstreit said UF was the most talented team in the SEC this year....
Let the Gator hating begin.
;)
"Most Talented" means nothing and does not always translate into wins. Was SC more talented than UF last season? No. Did UF win? No. Tennessee had great talent last year, or at least some people thought so (their preseason ranking), and look what happened to their season. Talent must be put together to create a TEAM that can be a success week after week.
AUTiger94
05-12-2006, 01:55 PM
Begin? Heck, the Gator hating began a long time ago........
j/k GatorNation. Actually, I have no ill feelings for the Gators.
The Gator Hatin' is an Ancient Tradition that I proudly take part in!
GatorNation
05-12-2006, 02:14 PM
The biggest story about the game was that your coach broke down and cried on national television and has been call the cry baby ever since. When was the last time you saw an SEC coach cry like that on national TV because he lost a game. He said in that interview that the whole team was in the locker room balling their eyes out.
See, gee, this is what bothers me about SOME of your posts: sometimes you jump to conclusions, drinking in the gator-hater koolaid without taking the time to learn all the information...I guess because your too eager to trash talk at times.
Meyer became emotional not because of the loss but because of his team's emotional reaction to the game in the locker room. I'll take a coach that cares about his players that much any day of the week....and twice on Sunday.
It's sort of ridiculous that you feel the need to turn a positive, proactive situation with regard to in-house team building into some moment of weak character.
:dry:
GatorNation
05-12-2006, 02:16 PM
"Most Talented" means nothing and does not always translate into wins. Was SC more talented than UF last season? No. Did UF win? No. Tennessee had great talent last year, or at least some people thought so (their preseason ranking), and look what happened to their season. Talent must be put together to create a TEAM that can be a success week after week.
Never said we'd win....or that talent will/should/does translate into wins.
I only said what Kirk said on Sportscenter in an attempt to offer a counter opinion to a poster's claim that less-U had the "most talent" in the SEC. I think our schedule is too tough for us this year to do anything beyond the SECCG.
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 02:31 PM
See, gee, this is what bothers me about SOME of your posts: sometimes you jump to conclusions, drinking in the gator-hater koolaid without taking the time to learn all the information...I guess because your too eager to trash talk.
Meyer became emotional not because of the loss but because of his team's emotional reaction to the game in the locker room. I'll take a coach that cares about his players that much any day of the week....and twice on Sunday.
I'm with ya on this one, GN...a grad. assistant friend of mine who was there, said that V. Brown and J. Mincey were very emotional after the game in the locker-room...he said everyone got emotional after Brown stood up and made some comments about how the Gators had several chances to win the game and couldn't get it done....I'll take Meyer's reactions anyday over the Zooker saying..."we're gettin' better"....besides, saying that Meyer was "balling" is overstating it a bit...he got choked up..yes, but he wasn't balling.
GatorNation
05-12-2006, 02:45 PM
I'm with ya on this one, GN...a grad. assistant friend of mine who was there, said that V. Brown and J. Mincey were very emotional after the game in the locker-room...he said everyone got emotional after Brown stood up and made some comments about how the Gators had several chances to win the game and couldn't get it done....I'll take Meyer's reactions anyday over the Zooker saying..."we're gettin' better"....besides, saying that Meyer was "balling" is overstating it a bit...he got choked up..yes, but he wasn't balling.
I just wish we'd move on from this crap already. But I guess rivals will tell the story their own way--whether it's the truth or not--if it looks bad for us.
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 02:51 PM
I just wish we'd move on from this crap already. But I guess rivals will tell the story their own way....whether it's the truth or not.
I agree...some of these "rivals" feel a need to put UF down...they sure can't do it by beating us.... :whistle:
geechee
05-12-2006, 02:58 PM
See, gee, this is what bothers me about SOME of your posts: sometimes you jump to conclusions, drinking in the gator-hater koolaid without taking the time to learn all the information...I guess because your too eager to trash talk at times.
Meyer became emotional not because of the loss but because of his team's emotional reaction to the game in the locker room. I'll take a coach that cares about his players that much any day of the week....and twice on Sunday.
It's sort of ridiculous that you feel the need to turn a positive, proactive situation with regard to in-house team building into some moment of weak character.
:dry:
What do you mean jump to conclusions? The game was last fall not last week. By now everyone knows what happened. Here are just a couple of news stories of the many that appeared that weekend. These two are from Florida papers by the way. Even using your argument why would he have allowed his team to cry about that game?
http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGB68JGRUEE.html
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/10/16/Sports/Loss_makes_Meyer_Ol__.shtml
geechee
05-12-2006, 03:06 PM
I agree...some of these "rivals" feel a need to put UF down...they sure can't do it by beating us.... :whistle:
Why do you have to make everything personal dude? My original post stated that UF was going to be out for blood. I was stating to Geaux that this was going to be LSU's toughest game in my opinion. Go back and read my original post. Because you are not able to grasp what you read, should not be thrown back at me. You have misread just about every post I have made that includes your school. How was that putting UF down. Why are you guys so sensitive? I guess that explains the crying. Grow up Hunter. Now I guess you will bust out the cartoon characters.
GatorNation
05-12-2006, 03:10 PM
What do you mean jump to conclusions? The game was last fall not last week. By now everyone knows what happened.
You're wrong, gee: how you described the event is not the way it happened. That's my only complaint here.
Was Meyer emotional? Check.
Was the team emotional? Check.
Was Meyer crying? No.
Was Meyer upset because of the loss? No.
It was about the players, not less-U.
GAMECOCK_FAN
05-12-2006, 03:18 PM
Come on guys, why does it matter? Personally, given a choice, I'd take a coach who is successful and lets a few tears fall every now and then (for whatever the reason), versus a coach who doesn't and can't win ballgames.
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 03:20 PM
Why do you have to make everything personal dude? My original post stated that UF was going to be out for blood. I was stating to Geaux that this was going to be LSU's toughest game in my opinion. Go back and read my original post. Because you are not able to grasp what you read, should not be thrown back at me. You have misread just about every post I have made that includes your school. How was that putting UF down. Why are you guys so sensitive? I guess that explains the crying. Grow up Hunter. Now I guess you will bust out the cartoon characters.
I was agreeing with GN...had nothing to do with your original post...I have to admit when you stated UF would be LSU's toughest game I nearly choked! I didn't mean for it to sound personal...well, maybe a little...my retort was based on your post about Meyer being known as a "cry-baby"....you're the first one to bring this up this year...and I'll admit, I was embarassed when it happened...but then I thought about it and I'm proud of Meyer...he is an emotional coach that loves his players...what's wrong with that? Anyway, this all stems from your use of the word "debacle"....UF had many chances to beat the team that represented the West in the SEC CG and fel short by 4 points...that's no debacle...now the Bama game...that was a debacle.
geechee
05-12-2006, 03:45 PM
You're wrong, gee: how you described the event is not the way it happened. That's my only complaint here.
Was Meyer emotional? Check.
Was the team emotional? Check.
Was Meyer crying? No.
Was Meyer upset because of the loss? No.
It was about the players, not less-U.
That was the way the press described the event. I gave you two links which were both from Florida papers by the way. You couldn't bring yourself to read them so here are the headlines: Tampa Tribune "Urban Crier: Loss Brings Tears To Coach's Eyes"; St.Pete Times "Loss makes Meyer Ol' Bawl Coach"You can tell everyone that I am making this up but they can just click on the two links and read for themselves.
You guys are acting like those Dogs' fans that keep telling me that the only reason we lost so many games to UF is because y'all have home field advantage. Those guys are not big enough to admit that y'all just had better teams than us for many of those years. The hilarious thing about this one however is that it started because I told Geaux that beating UF this year may be a tall order.
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 05:11 PM
That was the way the press described the event. I gave you two links which were both from Florida papers by the way. You couldn't bring yourself to read them so here are the headlines: Tampa Tribune "Urban Crier: Loss Brings Tears To Coach's Eyes"; St.Pete Times "Loss makes Meyer Ol' Bawl Coach"You can tell everyone that I am making this up but they can just click on the two links and read for themselves.
You guys are acting like those Dogs' fans that keep telling me that the only reason we lost so many games to UF is because y'all have home field advantage. Those guys are not big enough to admit that y'all just had better teams than us for many of those years. The hilarious thing about this one however is that it started because I told Geaux that beating UF this year may be a tall order.
I know those were the headlines, geechee...I saw them when they came out...columnist Mike Bianci had one as well...point was, you are using something that happened after the game as a rationale to describe the game. The game was a hard fought, defensive battle that LSU won...we had our chances, but the offense wasn't clicking and LSU's defense was tough...most Gators agree...if we have to lose a game in the Swamp next year, LSU will be the first choice...'cause we want to "whip" Bama and USCocks!
geechee
05-12-2006, 05:18 PM
You are still totally ignoring the fact that LSU turned the ball over five times and still beat you. Can we just drop this whole discussion. It started out as an LSU thread and Y'all have turned into a UGA/UF thing.
roosterj37
05-12-2006, 05:19 PM
All I have to say is Urban Meyer is a cry baby.
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 05:28 PM
You are still totally ignoring the fact that LSU turned the ball over five times and still beat you. Can we just drop this whole discussion. It started out as an LSU thread and Y'all have turned into a UGA/UF thing.
Here's the reason for UF's offensive "woes" against LSU...along with the fact LSU has a tough defense: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9667494/
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 05:30 PM
All I have to say is Urban Meyer is a cry baby.
Is that all you have to say...you probably can relate to him, though...after the season your boys had last year...I'm sure you know all about tears.... :rofl:
geechee
05-12-2006, 06:01 PM
Is that all you have to say...you probably can relate to him, though...after the season your boys had last year...I'm sure you know all about tears.... :rofl:
I doubt SC players cried about their season. Though you would know better than me, I'm fairly sure that Spurrier is like Richt and Richt frowns on crying in the locker room. You really do not understand Hunter that the vast majority of teams in the SEC do not cry about losing games. They just put it behind them and move on. I know you said that you were proud of your team for crying but, I really can not understand that and will not, no matter how well you explain it.
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 06:24 PM
I doubt SC players cried about their season. Though you would know better than me, I'm fairly sure that Spurrier is like Richt and Richt frowns on crying in the locker room. You really do not understand Hunter that the vast majority of teams in the SEC do not cry about losing games. They just put it behind them and move on. I know you said that you were proud of your team for crying but, I really can not understand that and will not, no matter how well you explain it.
You know how you like to say that I cannot "understand" what I read? Look again, Rooster is a UT fan...man, you got problems, dude. And the guys got emotional because of one player, Vernell Brown, the vocal leader of the team was pissed and got emotional, the other players did as well...so what...so, your saying Spurs and Richt don't allow "cryers"? I sure saw several "cryers" in the stands after last years WLOCP in Jacksonville.... :whistle:
geechee
05-12-2006, 06:52 PM
You know how you like to say that I cannot "understand" what I read? Look again, Rooster is a UT fan...man, you got problems, dude. And the guys got emotional because of one player, Vernell Brown, the vocal leader of the team was pissed and got emotional, the other players did as well...so what...so, your saying Spurs and Richt don't allow "cryers"? I sure saw several "cryers" in the stands after last years WLOCP in Jacksonville.... :whistle:
Dude why do you start with personal crap. Nobody can have a normal discussion with you because you are so immature. So what if I took for granted that rooster was an SC fan. It does not change anything. I doubt UT players were breaking down crying over their season either. They had a terrible season but I'm sure they did not react to it the way you think they did. They probably have put it behind them and have moved on. Every team is not like yours. The fact that you would blow out of proportion the crying thing and stretch it to some fans in the stands like Richt has control over their emotions is beyond ridiculous as you are getting to be by hyjacking this whole thread and making it a UF thing.
AUTiger94
05-12-2006, 07:02 PM
Dude why do you start with personal crap. Nobody can have a normal discussion with you because you are so immature. So what if I took for granted that rooster was an SC fan. It does not change anything. I doubt UT players were breaking down crying over their season either. They had a terrible season but I'm sure they did not react to it the way you think they did. They probably have put it behind them and have moved on. Every team is not like yours. The fact that you would blow out of proportion the crying thing and stretch it to some fans in the stands like Richt has control over their emotions is beyond ridiculous as you are getting to be by hyjacking this whole thread and making it a UF thing.
I'll settle this! All of your teams Suck! And If ifs and Buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas! ( or Hannakuh or whatever obscure holiday you celebrate) Have a Nice Day!
Tator
05-12-2006, 09:12 PM
Back to topic.....
I always get nervous when people start leaning towards unfounded success. Talent is great to have, but as someone already stated, talent doesn't add up to much if you can't put it all together.
LSU lost a cornerstone on the offensive line in Whitworth, but hopefully, we can fill the void with Herman Johnson - he's certainly big enough... I watched Luke Sanders play in high school and I have to say that he is an outstanding player, but is, as of yet, truly unproven on the collegiate level.
As far as QB goes, we've got it covered. Maybe a bit too well. I'm suprised that someone *cough*-Perrilloux hasn't transfered yet. And after that tail-end performance in the SECCG and blowout against Miami, Matt Flynn is looking just as good as JaMarcus Russell for the starting spot. Personally, I'm leaning more toward Matt Flynn simply because he seems to play smater with the ball. I'll take talented smart play over a talented cannon arm questionable play - anyday.
All in all, my hopes are high for LSU this coming season, but I won't drink the "we're the best" kool-aid until I see the crystal football being hoisted by Less Miles. Until then, I'll have my doubts, hope for the best and bleed purple and gold.
GeauxTo
05-12-2006, 10:15 PM
Florida will be catching LSU as its 3rd home game in a row, following Kentucky and Alabama. The Gators will warm up on Kentucky with a lopsided win, waiting to devour the Tide for what they did to you last year, and, I think you'll do it. I believe Florida will rip Alabama from one end of the swamp to the other. But there, I think, lies the point of concern. The Gators will be swaggering from their lopsided defeat of Kentucky and their bountiful revenge over the lackluster Tide, and that may cause them to get blindsided by a much faster, much bigger, and much more talented team when the Bayou Bengals invade the Swamp. LSU is a good road team, and that spells trouble for the Gators. LSU is, to say the least, not at all intimidated by the Swamp, so that is another factor putting the heat on the Gators. Also, when the Tigers arrive in the Swamp, they will already have cut their teeth on the likes of Arizona and Auburn (at Jordan-Hare), with warm-ups at home before the Gators with Tulane and Mississippi State. If the Tigers come in undefeated, the Gators could be in for a very long day. If the Tigers come in with a loss to either Arizona or Auburn, the Gators will still be in for a very long day because they will be mad.
(If the Gators beat us, I am sure someone will save this post and feed it to me with my crow.) ha-ha
:laugh:
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 11:03 PM
blindsided by a much faster, much bigger, and much more talented team when the Bayou Bengals invade the Swamp.
:laugh: :rofl: :welcome: :hyper: :yelrotflm :icon_rofl :lolup: :rolling2: :LOL_Hair: :uglyhamme
GatorHunter
05-12-2006, 11:10 PM
LSU is a good road team, and that spells trouble for the Gators. LSU is, to say the least, not at all intimidated by the Swamp, so that is another factor putting the heat on the Gators.
Not at all intimidated by the Swamp? Y'all have won exactly twice in the Swamp since the late 80's...I think LSU will be intimidated, but I think it's a close game because both teams will have two of the top defenses in the SEC...I believe UF goes undefeated at home for the second year in a row...when was the last time LSU went undefeated at home? :joke:
GatorNation
05-13-2006, 09:36 AM
That was the way the press described the event. I gave you two links which were both from Florida papers by the way. You couldn't bring yourself to read them so here are the headlines:
Gee, I know how the headlines read, so I didn't need to read them. I've seen them before. They were plastered all over this place that week. That wasn't my point.
I was just bothered by the fact that YOU described it that way in your post. Now, if you didn't know what really happened, then I don't blame you at all for believing the spin doctors' stories. But if you and other fans insist on perpetuating false accounts of the event even after learning what really happened, then that's a problem. And that's the last thing I'll say about that so we can get back to topic....
blindsided by a much faster, much bigger, and much more talented team when the Bayou Bengals invade the Swamp.
Geaux, it amazes me. Each year your team gets "bigger and much more talented" while the rest of us lose players to the draft and graduation, lol.
Even less-U has some drop-offs each year.
:D
GTmorris1970
05-13-2006, 09:39 AM
Not at all intimidated by the Swamp? Y'all have won exactly twice in the Swamp since the late 80's...I think LSU will be intimidated, but I think it's a close game because both teams will have two of the top defenses in the SEC...I believe UF goes undefeated at home for the second year in a row...when was the last time LSU went undefeated at home? :joke:
I have to agree there. There is only one SEC coach who I don't think will be intimidated in The Swamp, and that is partially because he is the one who made it intimidating. He will be emotional, yes, but not intimidated. By the way, how do you UF fans foresee him being welcomed at The Swamp?
GTmorris1970
05-13-2006, 09:42 AM
By the way, I don't see ANY SEC team going undefeated for quite some time. That is my vote.
CRIMSONWHITE
05-13-2006, 11:41 AM
Florida will be catching LSU as its 3rd home game in a row, following Kentucky and Alabama. The Gators will warm up on Kentucky with a lopsided win, waiting to devour the Tide for what they did to you last year, and, I think you'll do it. I believe Florida will rip Alabama from one end of the swamp to the other. But there, I think, lies the point of concern. The Gators will be swaggering from their lopsided defeat of Kentucky and their bountiful revenge over the lackluster Tide, and that may cause them to get blindsided by a much faster, much bigger, and much more talented team when the Bayou Bengals invade the Swamp. LSU is a good road team, and that spells trouble for the Gators. LSU is, to say the least, not at all intimidated by the Swamp, so that is another factor putting the heat on the Gators. Also, when the Tigers arrive in the Swamp, they will already have cut their teeth on the likes of Arizona and Auburn (at Jordan-Hare), with warm-ups at home before the Gators with Tulane and Mississippi State. If the Tigers come in undefeated, the Gators could be in for a very long day. If the Tigers come in with a loss to either Arizona or Auburn, the Gators will still be in for a very long day because they will be mad.
(If the Gators beat us, I am sure someone will save this post and feed it to me with my crow.) ha-ha
:laugh:
Geaux, why do you hate Alabama so much? You sound like a typical Allbarn fan and you are the biggest LSU homer I have ever seen. UF may beat us in the Swamp, but they won't rip us from one end to the other you can count on that.
GatorHunter
05-13-2006, 12:39 PM
I have to agree there. There is only one SEC coach who I don't think will be intimidated in The Swamp, and that is partially because he is the one who made it intimidating. He will be emotional, yes, but not intimidated. By the way, how do you UF fans foresee him being welcomed at The Swamp?
Your right....Spurs wouldn't be intimidated if he attended a "Black Panthers" rally! He's more the Intimidator type....now, I do think the USCock players will be intimidated by the Swamp...it's gonna get crazy!!
I think fans will be respectful of Spurs...don't expect him to get any cheers...but, he's still a Gator at heart...he still refers to UF as "we". So, we aren't gonna put him in the boat with bowden just yet...I'm wondering how he will react...I'm sure he will have some "anxiety" running into that awesome Blue & Orange field!
GTmorris1970
05-13-2006, 01:33 PM
Your right....Spurs wouldn't be intimidated if he attended a "Black Panthers" rally! He's more the Intimidator type....now, I do think the USCock players will be intimidated by the Swamp...it's gonna get crazy!!
I think fans will be respectful of Spurs...don't expect him to get any cheers...but, he's still a Gator at heart...he still refers to UF as "we". So, we aren't gonna put him in the boat with bowden just yet...I'm wondering how he will react...I'm sure he will have some "anxiety" running into that awesome Blue & Orange field!
You are probably right. The players may be somewhat, although watching last year, even in Athens, you know how much of a knack Spurrier has for getting his players up for that type of game. As far as Spurrier being there, I can tell you he still loves the Gators, and brings up his successes there all the time (in a respectful way). Don't know if he does now, but at one time he had a Gator helmet in his office. I am not sure how he will react, but he will have many emotions I'm sure when he walks onto that field. He has said before part of him will always be a Gator, although he truly enjoyed his victory over them last fall.
GTmorris1970
05-13-2006, 01:37 PM
On other quick note, not meaning to be off subject here, but I have seen several UF fans on several message boards, and almost all of them still love their Ole Ball Coach. As a matter of fact, Stephen Garcia, the QB Spurrier is HIGHLY recruiting for 2007, has a site online where people can write him messages. Several UF fans have been on that site telling him he should go play for Spurrier. Seems to me there is very little animosity towards him at all. I think Florida fans still love him as much as he loved UF.
GeauxTo
05-13-2006, 01:39 PM
Geaux, it amazes me. Each year your team gets "bigger and much more talented" while the rest of us lose players to the draft and graduation, lol.
:D
Yep, truly amazing! We get bigger, faster, more talented.
:laugh:
GeauxTo
05-13-2006, 01:43 PM
Geaux, why do you hate Alabama so much? You sound like a typical Allbarn fan and you are the biggest LSU homer I have ever seen. UF may beat us in the Swamp, but they won't rip us from one end to the other you can count on that.
As I've stated many times before, I truly love Alabama and their football heritage. The SEC is better because of Alabama's inclusion.
However, I love to taunt the Bammers, especially in the off-season. While I am an acknowledged "homer of homers," there is no one group that is as "homer to the core" as are the Bammers.
Oh, and rest assured that if DisturbinUrban can coach at all, Bama is going to get blistered in the Swamp this year.
BamaMatt
05-13-2006, 02:21 PM
As I've stated many times before, I truly love Alabama and their football heritage. The SEC is better because of Alabama's inclusion.
However, I love to taunt the Bammers, especially in the off-season. While I am an acknowledged "homer of homers," there is no one group that is as "homer to the core" as are the Bammers.
Oh, and rest assured that if DisturbinUrban can coach at all, Bama is going to get blistered in the Swamp this year.
We may lose a few games, may even lose to Florida. But I don't think anyone is going to outright dominate us. Not with the run game we should be bringing to the table -- to go with what should be at the very least a threat of a passing game.
LSU had a huge margin of talent over us last year -- just going by talent alone, being still in the effects of probation, it was hardly what anyone could call a blowout. And I still think it would have been a win with a different OC for Bama.
GeauxTo
05-13-2006, 03:14 PM
We may lose a few games, may even lose to Florida. But I don't think anyone is going to outright dominate us. Not with the run game we should be bringing to the table -- to go with what should be at the very least a threat of a passing game.
LSU had a huge margin of talent over us last year -- just going by talent alone, being still in the effects of probation, it was hardly what anyone could call a blowout. And I still think it would have been a win with a different OC for Bama.
You make some excellent points.
The difference that you'll see in LSU this year, however, is that there is no overriding Katrina experience / concern saddling the team and the players. They will be all football this year. And that is going to be quite a difference, I think. We play at Auburn, at Florida, at Tennessee, and at Arkansas; a formidable road schedule, but I think you'll see us win them all. In Baton Rouge, our two toughest opponents will be Arizona and Alabama. We catch Arizona early, so I hope we can be ready. Being at home will help, and Death Valley should intimidate Arizona. Alabama is always a good one, a traditional block-buster. I have no doubt that Bama will bring its best game; they always do. But Baton Rouge is no place to try out a new passing game or wish for a running game to develop. And it is not a place for Joe Kines to have to experiment to see what will work.
jbuzbee
05-13-2006, 03:25 PM
You make some excellent points.
The difference that you'll see in LSU this year, however, is that there is no overriding Katrina experience / concern saddling the team and the players. They will be all football this year. And that is going to be quite a difference, I think. We play at Auburn, at Florida, at Tennessee, and at Arkansas; a formidable road schedule, but I think you'll see us win them all. In Baton Rouge, our two toughest opponents will be Arizona and Alabama. We catch Arizona early, so I hope we can be ready. Being at home will help, and Death Valley should intimidate Arizona. Alabama is always a good one, a traditional block-buster. I have no doubt that Bama will bring its best game; they always do. But Baton Rouge is no place to try out a new passing game or wish for a running game to develop. And it is not a place for Joe Kines to have to experiment to see what will work.
Be careful.....that game in Little Rock will be explosive. Even if Arkansas has lost a bunch of games by that point...we'll be excited to play in Little Rock on national television....especially with how close that game was last year and I feel pretty confident that we will be better this year. Not saying LSU won't be able to pull it out....but it's definitely not a gimme.
BamaMatt
05-13-2006, 06:40 PM
You make some excellent points.
The difference that you'll see in LSU this year, however, is that there is no overriding Katrina experience / concern saddling the team and the players. They will be all football this year. And that is going to be quite a difference, I think. We play at Auburn, at Florida, at Tennessee, and at Arkansas; a formidable road schedule, but I think you'll see us win them all. In Baton Rouge, our two toughest opponents will be Arizona and Alabama. We catch Arizona early, so I hope we can be ready. Being at home will help, and Death Valley should intimidate Arizona. Alabama is always a good one, a traditional block-buster. I have no doubt that Bama will bring its best game; they always do. But Baton Rouge is no place to try out a new passing game or wish for a running game to develop. And it is not a place for Joe Kines to have to experiment to see what will work.
Kines will have his defense in excellent shape by the time the LSU game rolls around. They won't be the unit that last year's was, but they're not going to be pushovers.
I don't think Alabama is going to have to wish for a running game to develop, the run game is there... the passing game I don't think will be near as bad as everyone is expecting. The recievers should be a lot better, and hopefully not having bullets bouncing off of them from Brodie's occassional rocket-arm. DJ Hall is apparently much improved, and he showed flashes of brilliance last year. If Hall and the rest can catch the ball, it should be enough of a passing game that people won't simply be able to stack the box against the run. Fresh legs will abound in the Bama backfield with a stable of running backs and two tremendous full backs.
What we don't have is an Offensive Coordinator that is willing to switch his game plan. When OC Rader's game plan is going great, things run smoothly (see Florida). When it starts to unravel (see LSU/Auburn) he often refuses to change the flow of the game to adjust. There were several series in the LSU game last year that Bama picked up some big yardage with power running. However they kept returning to the passing game, despite all the breakdowns in the offensive line resulting in pressure and receivers dropping balls. Once it was apparent that the passing game was having little effect, but the power running was having some success, they should have changed plans to reflect that... they didn't, and lost.
GatorNation
05-13-2006, 09:45 PM
Kines will have his defense in excellent shape by the time the LSU game rolls around. They won't be the unit that last year's was, but they're not going to be pushovers....
Less-U's speedy receivers + bama's weakened D (losing 7 starters with questions at SS and corner) + Russell's increased experience at QB = loss for Bama.
BamaMatt
05-13-2006, 10:15 PM
Less-U's speedy receivers + bama's weakened D (losing 7 starters with questions at SS and corner) + Russell's increased experience at QB = loss for Bama.
Not saying we will win, just saying we could and may just do it.
GeauxTo
05-13-2006, 11:03 PM
Not saying we will win, just saying we could and may just do it.
The Bama game will be good, for sure. In as non-homerish way as possible, I think your D has a lot of trouble with the balance of the Tiger offense. Good running game; good passing game. Likely more than even Joe Kines can handle. And, even though you feel that you'll have a good running game and possibly a passing game, don't forget that the Tigers also have a formidable defense.
nooneLT
05-14-2006, 11:50 AM
What we don't have is an Offensive Coordinator that is willing to switch his game plan. When OC Rader's game plan is going great, things run smoothly (see Florida). When it starts to unravel (see LSU/Auburn) he often refuses to change the flow of the game to adjust. There were several series in the LSU game last year that Bama picked up some big yardage with power running. However they kept returning to the passing game, despite all the breakdowns in the offensive line resulting in pressure and receivers dropping balls. Once it was apparent that the passing game was having little effect, but the power running was having some success, they should have changed plans to reflect that... they didn't, and lost.
shula calls all the plays. rader only advises him, but shula calls 100% of the plays.
GeauxTo
05-15-2006, 10:46 PM
Be careful.....that game in Little Rock will be explosive. Even if Arkansas has lost a bunch of games by that point...we'll be excited to play in Little Rock on national television....especially with how close that game was last year and I feel pretty confident that we will be better this year. Not saying LSU won't be able to pull it out....but it's definitely not a gimme.
We have four tough road games... Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, and Arkansas. You are absolutely right about how the Hogs can beat you when you least expect it. I have great respect for Nutt, even though some of the Arkansas fans don't. He's shown he can do great things with minimal talent. But now, he's got some great talent, so all of us had better watch out. Arkansas is definitely for real.
CRIMSONWHITE
05-16-2006, 12:42 PM
We have four tough road games... Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, and Arkansas. You are absolutely right about how the Hogs can beat you when you least expect it. I have great respect for Nutt, even though some of the Arkansas fans don't. He's shown he can do great things with minimal talent. But now, he's got some great talent, so all of us had better watch out. Arkansas is definitely for real.
So you are saying that Bama won't be a tough game, Geaux? That's the homer in you, it nearly always is and will be this year. I'll bet you said the same thing last year.
geechee
05-16-2006, 12:56 PM
So you are saying that Bama won't be a tough game, Geaux? That's the homer in you, it nearly always is and will be this year. I'll bet you said the same thing last year.
He was speaking about road games. You need to check your schedule. All the ones I'm looking at say that Bama is playing LSU in Baton Rouge. If that is wrong please let me know.
GeauxTo
05-16-2006, 03:33 PM
He was speaking about road games. You need to check your schedule. All the ones I'm looking at say that Bama is playing LSU in Baton Rouge. If that is wrong please let me know.
Ha-Ha-Ha
Very few Bammers can read, geechee.
:laugh:
GatorNation
05-16-2006, 05:00 PM
You are absolutely right about how the Hogs can beat you when you least expect it. I have great respect for Nutt, even though some of the Arkansas fans don't. He's shown he can do great things with minimal talent. But now, he's got some great talent, so all of us had better watch out. Arkansas is definitely for real.
It's funny: out of 151 games (thus far), Arkansas was the only team to beat me in NCAA 2007. I laughed when it was over because they're the giant killers in real life.
Just wish they killed the USC giant last year....
;)
BAMA NATE
05-16-2006, 07:41 PM
I'm chiming in a bit late but LSU will not run the table in 2006. Like Auburn, Florida, or anybody else...the schedule will make it impossible. Geaux brought up the fact that there will be no Katrina issue this year. I think that whole situation was more of an inspiration than a distraction. Except for the 2nd half of the UT game LSU played with purpose last year. Winning for the victims. We saw them put away the SEC's best teams in OT. They won't have as much will power this year. LSU will be just like any other talent stocked team without motivation meaning that they will do just enough and no more to win which will also lead to heart-breaking losses. They certainly have the best chance but don't count on it happening.
GeauxTo
05-16-2006, 11:44 PM
I'm chiming in a bit late but LSU will not run the table in 2006. Like Auburn, Florida, or anybody else...the schedule will make it impossible. Geaux brought up the fact that there will be no Katrina issue this year. I think that whole situation was more of an inspiration than a distraction. Except for the 2nd half of the UT game LSU played with purpose last year. Winning for the victims. We saw them put away the SEC's best teams in OT. They won't have as much will power this year. LSU will be just like any other talent stocked team without motivation meaning that they will do just enough and no more to win which will also lead to heart-breaking losses. They certainly have the best chance but don't count on it happening.
You make some excellent points, and you certainly may be right. But I don't think so. Alley Broussard sat out most of last year and he's locked and loaded. After seeing his buddy Joseph Addai get such a good draft pick, he'll be out to be the best running back in the SEC. And he's plenty capable. Of the highly touted, like McFadden and Irons, Broussard is bigger and stronger than both, and plenty fast. Also, JaMarcus is feeling the pressure from Matt Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux. He knows that he must produce or he'll be riding the wood, lessening his chances for a high draft pick. The D will be solid and the offense should be explosive, both running and passing. The speed is everywhere. If we survive our horrendous road schedule (Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, and Arkansas), I think we've got a shot. But, of course, I am among the biggest of homers, so naturally I would think that way. I do, however, think that Bama will be less than they were last year unless John Parker Wilson blossoms into a superstar. But, hey man, this is the SEC and anything might happen! You gotta love it!
GAMECOCK_FAN
05-17-2006, 12:22 PM
My early prediction for LSU is 11-1 this year. Don't know which game they'll lose. but I don't see them running the table this year (nor any other SEC team for that matter). My gut feeling is that an LSU loss will more than likely come at the hands of Florida or Auburn.
However, if I knew in advance that one SEC team would go undefeated during the regular season this year, I'd have to say LSU would have the best shot at it.
goallthewayua
05-17-2006, 12:50 PM
hey geaux, off the subject, but take a look at this. No wonder yal finished fourth this weekend
http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2006/05/16/news/02szharriernabbed.txt
GeauxTo
05-17-2006, 03:51 PM
hey geaux, off the subject, but take a look at this. No wonder yal finished fourth this weekend
http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2006/05/16/news/02szharriernabbed.txt
Geeez! No wonder we came in fourth! Hungover does not a trackmeet win!
:sad:
goallthewayua
05-17-2006, 04:34 PM
ya, i thought that was funny as sh!t
geechee
05-17-2006, 05:00 PM
The funniest part was the burn by the judge; "No wonder you guys lost the track meet. You can't even outrun a Springdale cop."
CRIMSONWHITE
05-18-2006, 12:21 PM
He was speaking about road games. You need to check your schedule. All the ones I'm looking at say that Bama is playing LSU in Baton Rouge. If that is wrong please let me know.
You got me there geechee, that was a helluva brain fart. :laugh:
zud the hut
05-20-2006, 09:59 AM
Not at all intimidated by the Swamp? Y'all have won exactly twice in the Swamp since the late 80's...I think LSU will be intimidated, but I think it's a close game because both teams will have two of the top defenses in the SEC...I believe UF goes undefeated at home for the second year in a row...when was the last time LSU went undefeated at home? :joke:
2004 is the last time LSU was undefeated @ home.
Year: 2004
Overall: 9-3 SEC: 6-2
Coach: Nick Saban
Bowl: Capital One Bowl
Sept 4 Oregon State W 22-21 Baton Rouge
Sept 11 Arkansas State W 53-3 Baton Rouge
Sept 18 Auburn L 10-9 Auburn
Sept 25 Mississippi State W 51-0 Baton Rouge
Oct 2 Georgia L 45-16 Athens
Oct 9 Florida W 24-21 Gainesville
Oct 23 Troy W 24-20 Baton Rouge
Oct 30 Vanderbilt W 24-7 Baton Rouge
Nov 13 Alabama W 26-10 Baton Rouge
Nov 20 Ole Miss W 27-24 Baton Rouge
Nov 26 Arkansas W 43-14 Little Rock
Capital One Bowl
Jan 1 Iowa L 30-25 Orlando
Here is the series record for LSU/UF 22-27-3. LSU is 3-2 in the decade of 2000's. SOS clearly dominated LSU but he is gone and so is his dominance.
Date Season Result Score Location
Sep 25 1937 W 19-0 Baton Rouge
Oct 25 1941 W 10-7 Baton Rouge
Oct 24 1953 T 21-21 Gainesville
Oct 23 1954 W 20-7 Baton Rouge
Oct 15 1955 L 14-18 Gainesville
Oct 27 1956 L 6-21 Baton Rouge
Oct 26 1957 L 14-22 Gainesville
Oct 25 1958 W 10-7 Baton Rouge
Oct 24 1959 W 9-0 Gainesville
Oct 22 1960 L 10-13 Baton Rouge
Oct 28 1961 W 23-0 Gainesville
Oct 27 1962 W 23-0 Baton Rouge
Oct 26 1963 W 14-0 Gainesville
Nov 28 1964 L 6-20 Baton Rouge
Oct 2 1965 L 7-14 Gainesville
Oct 22 1966 L 7-28 Baton Rouge
Oct 7 1967 W 37-6 Gainesville
Oct 9 1971 W 48-7 Baton Rouge
Nov 25 1972 T 3-3 Gainesville
Oct 6 1973 W 24-3 Baton Rouge
Oct 5 1974 L 14-24 Gainesville
Oct 4 1975 L 6-34 Baton Rouge
Oct 2 1976 L 23-28 Gainesville
Oct 1 1977 W 36-14 Baton Rouge
Oct 7 1978 W 34-21 Gainesville
Oct 6 1979 W 20-3 Baton Rouge
Oct 4 1980 W 24-7 Gainesville
Oct 3 1981 L 10-24 Baton Rouge
Oct 2 1982 W 24-13 Gainesville
Oct 1 1983 L 17-31 Baton Rouge
Sep 8 1984 T 21-21 Gainesville
Oct 5 1985 L 0-20 Baton Rouge
Oct 4 1986 W 28-17 Gainesville
Oct 3 1987 W 13-10 Baton Rouge
Oct 1 1988 L 6-19 Gainesville
Oct 7 1989 L 13-16 Baton Rouge
Oct 6 1990 L 8-34 Gainesville
Oct 5 1991 L 0-16 Baton Rouge
Oct 10 1992 L 21-28 Gainesville
Oct 9 1993 L 3-58 Baton Rouge
Oct 8 1994 L 18-42 Gainesville
Oct 7 1995 L 10-28 Baton Rouge
Oct 12 1996 L 13-56 Gainesville
Oct 11 1997 W 28-21 Baton Rouge
Oct 10 1998 L 10-22 Gainesville
Oct 9 1999 L 10-31 Baton Rouge
Oct 7 2000 L 9-41 Gainesville
Oct 6 2001 L 15-44 Baton Rouge
Oct 12 2002 W 36-7 Gainesville
Oct 11 2003 L 7-19 Baton Rouge
Oct 9 2004 W 24-21 Gainesville
Oct 15 2005 W 21-17 Baton Rouge
This is LSU's record for the current decade. LSU is currently...
59 18 0 .766
...for the decade and will become LSU's most successful decade. These are the previously most successful decades...
1960's 76 26 5 .734
1970's 76 38 3 .662
The only way that LSU does not break those records is for another Katrina to come in and destroy the school.
Year Overall SEC Coach Bowl Final Rank
2000 8-4 5-3 Nick Saban Peach 22
2001 10-3 5-3 Nick Saban Sugar 7
2002 8-5 5-3 Nick Saban Cotton
2003 13-1 7-1 Nick Saban Sugar 1
2004 9-3 6-2 Nick Saban Capital One 16
2005 11-2 7-1 Les Miles Peach 5
zud the hut
05-20-2006, 10:10 AM
Be careful.....that game in Little Rock will be explosive. Even if Arkansas has lost a bunch of games by that point...we'll be excited to play in Little Rock on national television....especially with how close that game was last year and I feel pretty confident that we will be better this year. Not saying LSU won't be able to pull it out....but it's definitely not a gimme.
You are correct!
Arkansas is the breakout team of the SEC this year and will go bowling once again. I know that they are tired of losing and the Hawgs were playing much better in the second half of last year which bodes well for this year.
I was in Little Rock for the last game and had a great time there . Arkansas has a great record there.
GatorHunter
05-21-2006, 01:40 AM
2004 is the last time LSU was undefeated @ home.
Didn't realize that....but, before 2004...wasn't it nearly 20 years without an undefeated season at Tiger Stadium?
zud the hut
05-21-2006, 07:39 AM
Didn't realize that....but, before 2004...wasn't it nearly 20 years without an undefeated season at Tiger Stadium?
I don't remember the last undefeated season before that and I am too sleepy/tired/lazy to look it up @ the moment.
But suffice it to say that it was a long time ago.
GatorNation
05-21-2006, 10:29 AM
Didn't realize that....but, before 2004...wasn't it nearly 20 years without an undefeated season at Tiger Stadium?
Something like that....Death Valley is anything but, lol.
GatorHunter
05-21-2006, 12:07 PM
I wasn't "flaming" Geaux or anything...;)....I just remember a few years back, an LSU fan on one of our Gator boards predicting a "whippin" of our Gators in the intimidating "Death Valley"....one of the Gator fans came back and said that LSU hadn't went undefeated at TS is like 20 years...I was amazed...with all the "hype" about how tough a place it is to play...seems like they could at least defend it every once in a while...:)
zud the hut
05-21-2006, 04:08 PM
I wasn't "flaming" Geaux or anything...;)....I just remember a few years back, an LSU fan on one of our Gator boards predicting a "whippin" of our Gators in the intimidating "Death Valley"....one of the Gator fans came back and said that LSU hadn't went undefeated at TS is like 20 years...I was amazed...with all the "hype" about how tough a place it is to play...seems like they could at least defend it every once in a while...:)
Our record there since Nick Saban came is excellent.
I don't know if you know this but the 90's were our worst decade...we endured 6 awful years of Curly Hallman.
You guys beat us there in 2003 and were the only ones to do so. The comment that I made about that game is that I showed up and my team didn't.
But we have won the last 2 in the Swamp and going for 3.
GatorHunter
05-21-2006, 05:57 PM
Yep...we endured 3 awful years of the "Zooker"...during which you guys got us twice at the Swamp...but things are a little different now;).
zud the hut
05-21-2006, 08:17 PM
Yep...we endured 3 awful years of the "Zooker"...during which you guys got us twice at the Swamp...but things are a little different now;).
Curley Hallman 16-28-0 .364
Nick Saban 48-16-0 .750
Les Miles 11-2-0 .846
These are our last 3 coaches. Was Zooker as bad as Hallman's 16-28 record with a .364 rating? Did Zooker have a losing season?
GatorHunter
05-22-2006, 12:32 AM
Curley Hallman 16-28-0 .364
Nick Saban 48-16-0 .750
Les Miles 11-2-0 .846
These are our last 3 coaches. Was Zooker as bad as Hallman's 16-28 record with a .364 rating? Did Zooker have a losing season?
No...Zookster didn't have a losing season...but he was a couple of "questionable" calls and a defensive TD or two from it...I'm not comparing records...just saying that Zook didn't "defend" the Swamp....Meyer did in his first season at UF.
Cianne
05-22-2006, 01:21 AM
What is LSU's record at home for night games versus day games? You gotta give the fans enough liquor up time from Friday night.
GatorNation
05-22-2006, 03:15 PM
What is LSU's record at home for night games versus day games? You gotta give the fans enough liquor up time from Friday night.
Much better at night, I'm guessing.
Odd as to why less-U still schedules games in the afternoon (see '03 UF game).
GeauxTo
05-22-2006, 04:30 PM
Much better at night, I'm guessing.
Odd as to why less-U still schedules games in the afternoon (see '03 UF game).
Big time TV money is my guess.
:thumbs:
zud the hut
05-22-2006, 06:43 PM
Apologies to the message board...in my haste about our last three coaches, I left out our sixth most winning coach...
Gerry Dinardo 32 24 1 .570
blues_cap
05-22-2006, 08:19 PM
You make some excellent points, and you certainly may be right. But I don't think so. Alley Broussard sat out most of last year and he's locked and loaded. After seeing his buddy Joseph Addai get such a good draft pick, he'll be out to be the best running back in the SEC. And he's plenty capable. Of the highly touted, like McFadden and Irons, Broussard is bigger and stronger than both, and plenty fast. Also, JaMarcus is feeling the pressure from Matt Flynn and Ryan Perrilloux. He knows that he must produce or he'll be riding the wood, lessening his chances for a high draft pick. The D will be solid and the offense should be explosive, both running and passing. The speed is everywhere. If we survive our horrendous road schedule (Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, and Arkansas), I think we've got a shot. But, of course, I am among the biggest of homers, so naturally I would think that way. I do, however, think that Bama will be less than they were last year unless John Parker Wilson blossoms into a superstar. But, hey man, this is the SEC and anything might happen! You gotta love it!
cmon geaux, addai went that high and wasnt even one of the top 3 backs in the sec last year(mcfadden, irons, darby). i cant see how at this point you can claim that broussard will be out to be the best back in the sec considering he hasnt been in the top 3 since he got to lsu.
you may turn out to be right, but right now he is not that high on the food chain.
GeauxTo
05-22-2006, 10:07 PM
cmon geaux, addai went that high and wasnt even one of the top 3 backs in the sec last year(mcfadden, irons, darby). i cant see how at this point you can claim that broussard will be out to be the best back in the sec considering he hasnt been in the top 3 since he got to lsu.
you may turn out to be right, but right now he is not that high on the food chain.
Alley Broussard was out almost the entire season last year with a broken leg. Before he was hurt, he had all the appearances of being the hoss among hosses. From what I hear, he is back 100% and with an excellent attitude. We have a much better passing game than either Arkansas or Auburn, so he may not get as much running as Irons and McFadden, but I think you'll see him blossom into one of the best running backs in the SEC if not the best. He's definitely a bruiser, and very fast, much in the mold of a Reggie Bush. I also think Justin Vincent will have a year where he performs up to expectations. (You remember how he ran against Oklahoma in the national championship game.) The SEC is filled with pretty good running teams this year, and LSU will be right up there among the best.
nooneLT
05-23-2006, 02:43 AM
Alley Broussard was out almost the entire season last year with a broken leg. Before he was hurt, he had all the appearances of being the hoss among hosses. From what I hear, he is back 100% and with an excellent attitude. We have a much better passing game than either Arkansas or Auburn, so he may not get as much running as Irons and McFadden, but I think you'll see him blossom into one of the best running backs in the SEC if not the best. He's definitely a bruiser, and very fast, much in the mold of a Reggie Bush. I also think Justin Vincent will have a year where he performs up to expectations. (You remember how he ran against Oklahoma in the national championship game.) The SEC is filled with pretty good running teams this year, and LSU will be right up there among the best.
you lost me when you said reggie bush is a bruiser.
autiger1126
05-23-2006, 04:13 PM
you lost me when you said reggie bush is a bruiser.
he lost me when he said that LSU had a much better passing game than auburn :brick:
DELTOR
05-23-2006, 05:57 PM
I believe LSU has the best set of receivers in the SEC....and I'm not the only one who thinks that
nooneLT
05-23-2006, 07:11 PM
I believe LSU has the best set of receivers in the SEC....and I'm not the only one who thinks that
especially since auburn lost 3 of their top 4 receivers (i think) obumanu, aromashadu and mix?
GatorNation
05-29-2006, 04:19 PM
I believe LSU has the best set of receivers in the SEC....and I'm not the only one who thinks that
"They've" been saying that for years now, but I don't see it. If they're the best, then they're also the most consistently underachieving group in the SEC.
Less-U was #7 in the SEC in receptions (16.6/g and nearly 1,000 yards less than Vandy...with two more games played btw) and #4 in passing yards/game. Both numbers fall behind Florida, who--according to Geaux--is comprised of a bunch of hapless fools coached by an uberfool, playing in an offense that will never work in the SEC.
That dog won't hunt.
I'm not saying UF's WRs are the best, but less-U's are not imo.
frygator
05-29-2006, 05:19 PM
"They've" been saying that for years now, but I don't see it. If they're the best, then they're also the most consistently underachieving group in the SEC.
Less-U was #7 in the SEC in receptions (16.6/g and nearly 1,000 yards less than Vandy...with two more games played btw) and #4 in passing yards/game. Both numbers fall behind Florida, who--according to Geaux--is comprised of a bunch of hapless fools coached by an uberfool, playing in an offense that will never work in the SEC.
That dog won't hunt.
I'm not saying UF's WRs are the best, but less-U's are not imo.
If Russell is starting for LSU against us, I doubt that we lose that game. He is a turnover machine and we will take full advantage of that at home.
While LSU is extremely talented at the skill positions, they have to replace a lot of lineman(OL and DL). That is tough, no matter how well you have recruited over the years.
GeauxTo
05-29-2006, 05:26 PM
"They've" been saying that for years now, but I don't see it. If they're the best, then they're also the most consistently underachieving group in the SEC.
Less-U was #7 in the SEC in receptions (16.6/g and nearly 1,000 yards less than Vandy...with two more games played btw) and #4 in passing yards/game. Both numbers fall behind Florida, who--according to Geaux--is comprised of a bunch of hapless fools coached by an uberfool, playing in an offense that will never work in the SEC.
That dog won't hunt.
I'm not saying UF's WRs are the best, but less-U's are not imo.
I don't think the Gators can match these WRs... no way, jose!
Craig Davis, 6'2", 195, SR
Dwayne Bowe, 6'3", 202, SR
Early Doucet, 6'0", 206, JR
Xavier Carter, 6'3", 190, JR
Brandon Lafell, 6’3”, 180,RSFR.
All but Lafell have significant game experience and catches. Xavier Carter is probably the fastest player in the SEC. Watch for them to light-up the scoreboard in the Swamp.
:thumbs:
GeauxTo
05-29-2006, 05:34 PM
If Russell is starting for LSU against us, I doubt that we lose that game. He is a turnover machine and we will take full advantage of that at home.
While LSU is extremely talented at the skill positions, they have to replace a lot of lineman(OL and DL). That is tough, no matter how well you have recruited over the years.
If Russell stumbles in the Swamp, it might be your worst nightmare. Both Flynn and Perrilloux can give you more than even your super D might be able to handle. And don't forget, Alley Broussard is back 100%. If your D has a crack, he'll exploit it. Then there's Justin Vincent who is chomping at the bit to redeem himself as a premier RB. There's a lot of firepower coming your way. And, the D that you will see is probably every bit as good as yours, and maybe then some, with the likes of LaRon Landry as a DB. All and all, it stacks up to be a great one. I hope I can come down there for it. I hate your food, but I love your football!
frygator
05-29-2006, 05:35 PM
I don't think the Gators can match these WRs... no way, jose!
Craig Davis, 6'2", 195, SR
Dwayne Bowe, 6'3", 202, SR
Early Doucet, 6'0", 206, JR
Xavier Carter, 6'3", 190, JR
Brandon Lafell, 6’3”, 180,RSFR.
All but Lafell have significant game experience and catches. Xavier Carter is probably the fastest player in the SEC. Watch for them to light-up the scoreboard in the Swamp.
:thumbs:
While Davis, Bowe, and Doucet are studs; what the hell has Carter done? He his a track star playing football and has done jack-squat for you.
And you bringing up Lafell. . .is like us saying one of our RS/true Frosh are going to light up the SEC.
There is no denying that your skill positions are very talented, but with your QB(very sketchy at times), and your changes at OL, will you be able to maximizes that talent?
frygator
05-29-2006, 05:39 PM
If Russell stumbles in the Swamp, it might be your worst nightmare. Both Flynn and Perrilloux can give you more than even your super D might be able to handle. And don't forget, Alley Broussard is back 100%. If your D has a crack, he'll exploit it. Then there's Justin Vincent who is chomping at the bit to redeem himself as a premier RB. There's a lot of firepower coming your way. And, the D that you will see is probably every bit as good as yours, and maybe then some, with the likes of LaRon Landry as a DB. All and all, it stacks up to be a great one. I hope I can come down there for it. I hate your food, but I love your football!
Flynn looked good in one game, and Perriloux has played exactly ZERO games! Plus, the game will be in The Swamp, which isn't easy for QBs with little to no experience.
Broussard is talented, but you act like he is Jim Brown/Gale Sayers wrapped into one player.
We are two evenly matched teams, and the game is at home for us, so. . .let's just say that I like our chances. :werd:
GeauxTo
05-29-2006, 06:03 PM
Flynn looked good in one game, and Perriloux has played exactly ZERO games! Plus, the game will be in The Swamp, which isn't easy for QBs with little to no experience.
Broussard is talented, but you act like he is Jim Brown/Gale Sayers wrapped into one player.
I understand. You like DisturbinUrban and think he will pull it off. He may, but the road to the top in the SEC is full of tough spots. He's great at PR, but I'm not so sure he's a winner in the SEC. Anyway, your D will get the Gators (and DisturbinUrban) a long way this year. They are, I believe, truly awesome; much in the mold of Gator Ds of a few years ago. If you can stop LSU and Auburn, you've pretty much got it made; but, that's a very tall order.
Your QB may have lost a lot of his confidence the way that he was handled last year. He's good, no doubt, but we'll have to see how he comes off this year. Russell is stronger, throws a longer ball, and is very accurate. Leak is also accurate, but not as good with the long ball as Russell, IMO.
Tebow and Perrilloux come in hyped to the rafters. Perrilloux is better. There is no doubt about it. He's the "mouth of the South" alright, but he's also the real deal. I think he can run better than Tebow, pass better than Tebow, and is all-around, a better athlete than Tebow. I watched him in spring practice, and I was thoroughly impressed. He can hit a receiver 30-40 yards downfield, with both him and the receiver on the full run. These two guys are our future QBs, so we should have lots of opportunities to see them up against one another.
And then there's Broussard; along with Darby of Alabama, likely the most experienced RB in the SEC. He's a load, my friend, he's a load. The hype on Arky's McFadden and The Barn's Irons will dissipate as the season rolls on, in favor of the Bayou's version of "Jim Brown & Gayle Sayers wrapped in one."
;)
frygator
05-29-2006, 06:15 PM
I understand. You like DisturbinUrban and think he will pull it off. He may, but the road to the top in the SEC is full of tough spots. He's great at PR, but I'm not so sure he's a winner in the SEC. Anyway, your D will get the Gators (and DisturbinUrban) a long way this year. They are, I believe, truly awesome; much in the mold of Gator Ds of a few years ago. If you can stop LSU and Auburn, you've pretty much got it made; but, that's a very tall order.
Your QB may have lost a lot of his confidence the way that he was handled last year. He's good, no doubt, but we'll have to see how he comes off this year. Russell is stronger, throws a longer ball, and is very accurate. Leak is also accurate, but not as good with the long ball as Russell, IMO.
Tebow and Perrilloux come in hyped to the rafters. Perrilloux is better. There is no doubt about it. He's the "mouth of the South" alright, but he's also the real deal. I think he can run better than Tebow, pass better than Tebow, and is all-around, a better athlete than Tebow. I watched him in spring practice, and I was thoroughly impressed. He can hit a receiver 30-40 yards downfield, with both him and the receiver on the full run. These two guys are our future QBs, so we should have lots of opportunities to see them up against one another.
And then there's Broussard; along with Darby of Alabama, likely the most experienced RB in the SEC. He's a load, my friend, he's a load. The hype on Arky's McFadden and The Barn's Irons will dissipate as the season rolls on, in favor of the Bayou's version of "Jim Brown & Gayle Sayers wrapped in one."
;)
I'm glad to see alcoholism hasn't tempered your optimism. :yelrotflm
GatorNation
05-29-2006, 07:53 PM
I understand. You like DisturbinUrban and think he will pull it off. He may, but the road to the top in the SEC is full of tough spots. He's great at PR, but I'm not so sure he's a winner in the SEC. Anyway, your D will get the Gators (and DisturbinUrban) a long way this year. They are, I believe, truly awesome; much in the mold of Gator Ds of a few years ago. If you can stop LSU and Auburn, you've pretty much got it made; but, that's a very tall order.
Your QB may have lost a lot of his confidence the way that he was handled last year. He's good, no doubt, but we'll have to see how he comes off this year. Russell is stronger, throws a longer ball, and is very accurate. Leak is also accurate, but not as good with the long ball as Russell, IMO.
Tebow and Perrilloux come in hyped to the rafters. Perrilloux is better. There is no doubt about it. He's the "mouth of the South" alright, but he's also the real deal. I think he can run better than Tebow, pass better than Tebow, and is all-around, a better athlete than Tebow. I watched him in spring practice, and I was thoroughly impressed. He can hit a receiver 30-40 yards downfield, with both him and the receiver on the full run. These two guys are our future QBs, so we should have lots of opportunities to see them up against one another.
And then there's Broussard; along with Darby of Alabama, likely the most experienced RB in the SEC. He's a load, my friend, he's a load. The hype on Arky's McFadden and The Barn's Irons will dissipate as the season rolls on, in favor of the Bayou's version of "Jim Brown & Gayle Sayers wrapped in one."
;)
Oh boy....OK a few things:
No one said less-U didn't have talented WRs. You guys do, for sure. They just don't produce as much as their hype would suggest. They were all supposed to terrorize us/the SEC last year, and the numbers and rankings (as I listed) are anything but frightening. And it wasn't just one game; they struggled in several key games. At least one publication [Lindy's] has the Gators' WR unit (#3 NCAA) ranked above less-U's group (#4).
As far as the game this year, I look at it this way: Last year's game came at the end of us trying to fit a square Leak into a round spread-option hole.....and we still nearly pulled it out in the Bayou. We were at least one poor defensive call away from the upset (on that 3rd-and-eternity play); we had 5 turnovers with a defense that isn't as good as this year's squad will be, and we're home this year. As you are well aware, being home matters quite a bit in college football, especially when the advantage is as big as ours is in the Swamp.
Tebow vs. Perriloux: Do you really think that's a fair comparison (at this point)? RP has a whole extra year in the system. TT should be at his senior prom; instead, he outperformed Leak in the Orange and Blue game. RP is talented, but if he was THAT good, he'd have taken the job from JR by now. Russell isn't Vince Young, so great that he has a lock on the QB position.....and he's made plenty of mistakes such that if RP was ready to take over, he would have. Why did Flynn get the nod for the scUM game, especially if RP was ready and the more talented QB? BTW: both RP and Flynn were under 50% in completion percentage in the tigger's spring game. Also: "...this marked the first time LSU fans got to see Perrilloux, a consensus choice as the nation's top quarterback in the 2005 recruiting class. Perrilloux looked raw at times – he sidearmed a couple of throws and didn't always have the best mechanics – but he showed off his arm strength and maneuverability by rolling to his right and finding Bowe for a 30-yard touchdown" (Rivals).
Tebow will be the better QB. He has a better attitude (from what I read about RP), a stronger work ethic, holds a number of Florida HS QB records (passing and running) that are (I'm guessing) probably better than RP's HS numbers, better natural mechanics, and a coaching staff that is invested in making him the UF Golden Child he was recruited to be. He's going to get the attention and time he needs to be maximally successful. He's going to play this year. He's not going to warm the bench like RP waiting for his turn, which means that by the time both are starters, Tebow will be ahead of RP in overall development. Also, Tebow is really a HS senior and he already has more physical development than Ryan.
;)
GeauxTo
05-29-2006, 08:50 PM
Oh boy....OK a few things:
We're both speculating, of course (and doing a good job of it, too). It will take the season getting underway and our teams meeting to get these things ironed out. You can be sure that I will be pulling for the Gators most weekends when they don't play us, and I especially am looking forward to the Gator/Bama game. I think you guys are poised to deliver some serious payback when they visit the Swamp. We play Auburn before we play you guys, and you play us, I think, before you play Auburn. If Auburn beats us and you beat us, the Gator/Barn showdown will be big, big, big. If we beat Auburn and the Gators, we should do well with everyone else, but we do play pesky Arkansas in Little Rock. I think we'll throttle Bama (they're here), but we play the mysterious Vols in Knoxville. We should be geared for some payback there, but you never can tell about Phat Man, especially now that he has the Cut back to guide the offense. Also, you have the Visored One to contend with, which is no small order, because he's got an itch to scratch where the Gators are concerned. Be happy... Only ninety-five days 'till kickoff!
SeanVol
05-29-2006, 09:16 PM
If LSU goes 12-0 Jamarcus Russell and Vincent have to take their game to the next level. I know Vincent went off on the sooners in the Sugar Bowl, but his game has steadly declined. Chris Low was on a ESPNU College Football Insider Podcast April 20 and he say that Russell is overrated.
GeauxTo
05-30-2006, 11:04 AM
If LSU goes 12-0 Jamarcus Russell and Vincent have to take their game to the next level. I know Vincent went off on the sooners in the Sugar Bowl, but his game has steadly declined. Chris Low was on a ESPNU College Football Insider Podcast April 20 and he say that Russell is overrated.
I do hope that Justin Vincent moves up to his likely potential this year. That will be a big help. But our big runner is going to be Alley Broussard.
Russell has definitely not lived up to his potential, yet. Hopefully, he'll feel those footsteps behind him (Flynn & Perrilloux) this year and get serious.
The Vols are a mystery, at least to me. I don't know what to expect. I do think that Cutcliffe will be a positive addition to stability on offense. Ainge has gone the gamut from looking pathetic (spoiled, psychotic behavior) to passing like a pro. A lot will depend on how he performs this year. The Vols could be very good.
SeanVol
05-30-2006, 01:29 PM
The Vols are a mystery, at least to me. I don't know what to expect. I do think that Cutcliffe will be a positive addition to stability on offense. Ainge has gone the gamut from looking pathetic (spoiled, psychotic behavior) to passing like a pro. A lot will depend on how he performs this year. The Vols could be very good.
It will take a awhile. The O-line and D-line are not as bad as everyone thinks they will be, but they will need time to develop. Finally caught the spring game CSS accept for the first half. From what I saw Cut has made a difference already. The two passes that I saw crompton he looked good he took what was there and got rid of the ball quickly. I wish i could've caught the First half and saw what ainge did. However, I did listen to the Spring game on the radio from what I heard he was in control. Ainge's problem still is when a WR drops a ball he is affected. Meachum done this in the spring game and it affected him after that he finished the game completing 1 of the his last 4 passes I think.
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