Who Would You Vote For?

[GeauxTo]

Who would you vote for if these two were running against each other for president of the U. S.???

[GatorNation]

Who would you vote for if these two were running against each other for president of the U. S.???
I'd write-in Uga VI before voting for Clinton.

[GeauxTo]

I'd write-in Uga VI before voting for Clinton.Ha-Ha-Ha
I would, too!
:laugh:

[Rebel Mike]

I'd cheer for LSU and mean it before I voted for Clinton, and i'm sure you'd do the same for Ole Miss.

Interesting how the south may have to choose between a white woman and a black woman two years and one november from now...Obviously some old timers will come out of the woodwork.

[dudeman0501]

No question about this one: Condoleezza Rice.

[cocky4ever]

Holy crap!! I just accidently clicked on Rice!!:mad:

There is NO way I would vote for Rice, but probably also no way I would vote for Hillary. I think I would save my time and not make it to the polls on that day. Condi has a bad track record and you cant really tell where Hillary stands on issues because she is just saying what she thinks will get her support(like most politicians).

I feel pretty sure in saying that we will never see this ballot. If the dems. couldnt get Kerry through I think they would realize that there is no way they would get Hillary through. The pubs just keep exaggerating her potetntial because they know she would be easy to defeat.

The pubs would never put Condi through either. Their base is the manly testosterone fueled hunting crowd, and the Christians. If the dems had someone even SLIGHTLY close to being a moderate going against Rice then the pubs would lose at least one southern state and maybe more, and they cant afford any of the southern states.

Anyway....like I said, I feel pretty sure that I will never see this ballot. And that will make me sleep MUCH better tonight:D

[GamecockinIL]

The pubs would never put Condi through either. Their base is the manly testosterone fueled hunting crowd, and the Christians. If the dems had someone even SLIGHTLY close to being a moderate going against Rice then the pubs would lose at least one southern state and maybe more, and they cant afford any of the southern states.


This is one of the MAJOR misconceptions about people who primarily vote GOP. The mass media has successfully defined GOP votors as being racists, bigots, homophobes, et.al.. Therefore, if African-Americans ever want to have their voice heard, they must vote for the party of the donkeys.

What amazes me is how completely the African-American community has bought into the rhetoric despite the fact that almost every A-A of power in the gov't has been championed by GOP administrations, especially this one.

Every time an A-A has run for Prez for the Dems, they get shut down and shut out. Yet the GOP has embraced many A-A leaders and I believe would vote for in overwhelming numbers. Why? Because the GOP is NOT the home of racists, bigots, homophobes, etc., no more than the Dems are. What the GOP is the home of is a clear set of principles (I know, I know! There are republicans that don't fit that bill, but that is not indicative of the party as a whole). GOPers don't vote based on color, creed or anything else on the list of diatribes that the mass media claims drives the GOP. They vote on a basic set of operating/belief principles. And if those principles are carried forward by a person of color, or a woman, it doesn't matter. They will win the heart AND the vote of the GOP.

[OmahaBound]

And if those principles are carried forward by a person of color, or a woman, it doesn't matter. They will win the heart AND the vote of the GOP.

that's incredibly idealistic and i don't buy it for a second. sure it would be true of a great number of people, but there would be a lot more than you seem willing to concede who would have a huge problem voting for an african american woman. america has come far, but we're not that far yet.

i agree with you that the Dems don't really care much more than the GOP though. they've taken the minorities in this country for granted for years. if all the minorities in this country voted you would see an easy Dem victory, but they know that the Dems are just using them at this point and therefore don't care enough to vote. i still think everyone should vote, even if it is simply for the lesser of two evils though.

as far as who i would i vote for....i have no idea. if i were to choose now it would be based on complete BS. Rice is simply a puppet for the Bush administration, so maybe when she had her chance she really would do some things differently. Clinton on the other hand is making the same mistake Kerry did already....saying what she thinks everyone on the Dems side wants to hear instead of what she thinks.

i agree with cocky though...i don't think either of these will be in the final two. i suppose we shall see though.

one things for sure though, option number 3 for me would never be "wouldn't vote"....i would simply vote for one of the smaller parties.

[cocky4ever]

This is one of the MAJOR misconceptions about people who primarily vote GOP. The mass media has successfully defined GOP votors as being racists, bigots, homophobes, et.al.. Therefore, if African-Americans ever want to have their voice heard, they must vote for the party of the donkeys.

What amazes me is how completely the African-American community has bought into the rhetoric despite the fact that almost every A-A of power in the gov't has been championed by GOP administrations, especially this one.

Every time an A-A has run for Prez for the Dems, they get shut down and shut out. Yet the GOP has embraced many A-A leaders and I believe would vote for in overwhelming numbers. Why? Because the GOP is NOT the home of racists, bigots, homophobes, etc., no more than the Dems are. What the GOP is the home of is a clear set of principles (I know, I know! There are republicans that don't fit that bill, but that is not indicative of the party as a whole). GOPers don't vote based on color, creed or anything else on the list of diatribes that the mass media claims drives the GOP. They vote on a basic set of operating/belief principles. And if those principles are carried forward by a person of color, or a woman, it doesn't matter. They will win the heart AND the vote of the GOP.

I didnt say the GOP is made up of racists,bigots, and homophobes. I said the base consisted mainly of testerone fueled hunters and Christians. I should've also included the rich in there. Im not saying that there arent republicans who dont fit this description, or that there arent christian dems or whatever. Im just saying that if you wanna appeal to the GOP basae you have to gain support from at least one(probably two or three) of those groups. If you can promise to cut taxes, give people the right to more guns, and push for more conservative laws you will be widely supported in the GOP.

Rice may be able to win a primary in IL, but I think it would be greatly naive to say that her race and gender would play no role in how Southern voters voted. I still stand by my previous remark that if she was going against an even slightly moderate dem she would lose at least one (maybe more) Southern state.

[scunyon]

America has come far, but we're not that far yet.



:attention Understatement of the year! :attention

That's a hard one, but I think Hillary would have an easier time getting elected then Kerry would because she clearly rides the fence and is very quiet about her real feelings on issues, unlike Kerry who espoused whatever the polls were saying was the "in" thing at the time.

Condi, OTOH, is a totally different set of ideals and principles (or lack thereof). Some of the relationships that she has made/ruined may affect her ability to get elected because it may put a strain on foreign policy. In fact, looking at the situation with the Middle East, they would not really respect a female head of state because of their views on the roles of women, so we would still be going around in circles.

Too tough to call...

[OmahaBound]

:attention Understatement of the year! :attention


haha, true enough

[pc72687]

I would vote for Rice because there is no way in (really hot place) that I would let Clinton be president. It would signal the beginning of the end.

[Chris]

None of the above....

Disclaimer : I don't debate politics! I may make a comment here and there, but debating politics is like arguing with a brick wall.

That said, I wouldn't vote for either. The problem with our Government is not someone "we, the people" can elect into office. The problem with our Government does is not in the elected officials that our Government appoints. The problem with our Government can not be changed by any vote. The laws and choices our Government makes are decided upon at dinner with people you've never heard of, Lobbyists! Lobbyists run the United States Government. Woman, Man, Black, White... it does not matter who is in office.

[SeattleGamecocks]

This is one of the MAJOR misconceptions about people who primarily vote GOP. The mass media has successfully defined GOP votors as being racists, bigots, homophobes, et.al.. Therefore, if African-Americans ever want to have their voice heard, they must vote for the party of the donkeys.

What amazes me is how completely the African-American community has bought into the rhetoric despite the fact that almost every A-A of power in the gov't has been championed by GOP administrations, especially this one.

Every time an A-A has run for Prez for the Dems, they get shut down and shut out. Yet the GOP has embraced many A-A leaders and I believe would vote for in overwhelming numbers. Why? Because the GOP is NOT the home of racists, bigots, homophobes, etc., no more than the Dems are. What the GOP is the home of is a clear set of principles (I know, I know! There are republicans that don't fit that bill, but that is not indicative of the party as a whole). GOPers don't vote based on color, creed or anything else on the list of diatribes that the mass media claims drives the GOP. They vote on a basic set of operating/belief principles. And if those principles are carried forward by a person of color, or a woman, it doesn't matter. They will win the heart AND the vote of the GOP.
I gotta disagree. IF the GOP were to nominate Condi (she has publicly expressed that she is not interested) you'd see a lot of true colors from longtime republicans. I'm certainly not proud of this, but I could name about a dozen people just in my family who are life long republicans who would undoubtedly not vote for Rice b/c of her race. B4 the moderate neocons flame back, I'm not calling you individuals racists, but I definitely don't think that the stereotype that GOP is racist is completely unwarranted.

I clicked Hillary, but given this ballot, I'd probably actually vote Libertarian again.

[Wincrimson]

Hahahahahahahahahhahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

This thread is hilarious! To actually think about the GOP nominating her is too funny! She doesn't stand a chance in hell... of winning her party's nomination, that is.

Hillary-- she's a dolt as well. I dunno.. I wouldn't vote for either more than likely.

[sportsgirl]

I agree with most of you here that, unfortunately, we're not likely to see either woman onthe ballot. I've said for years that if Condi Rice were a White man, she'd be GW Bush and if Hillary were to run for President, the Pubs would be on her like white on Condi Rice. As much as I would love to see a woman President, I would NOT vote for Rice. I love Hillary Clinton. It takes one strong woman to stomach all the crap Bill put her through.

[TigerHeel]

I'm a registered Democrat, but no way I'd vote for Hillary. She's way too far left for me.

I would not vote for Condoleeza Rice, either. When it gets time for the Republicans to trot out their new candidate in 2008, I want it to be somebody that is not going to be another GWB.

If both sides have sorry candidates, I'll keep my vote to myself. I will not vote just to be voting. Not when neither candidate is close to my values.