Ranking SEC Recruiting

[GeauxTo]

Below is how I rate the SEC in recruiting (DandyDon):



Florida
Georgia
LSU
Ole Miss
Auburn
Alabama
Arkansas
South Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt

[JerryBeeds]

It's shows the strength of our conference that USC finishes 24th in the country (per rivals), but only 8th in the conference. By comparison, UNC finished 4th in the ACC rankings, but is 30th nationally. The SEC once again picks up the most talent of any other conference bar none. :cool:

[supergenius]

Below is how I rate the SEC in recruiting (DandyDon):



Florida
Georgia
LSU
Ole Miss
Auburn
Alabama
Arkansas
South Carolina
Tennessee
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Vanderbilt

Dandy Don needs to turn out the lights and get some rest. Ole Miss, while they got a very good class, did not out do the barn or Bama and Vandy did much better than Miss. St.

RTR

[JerryBeeds]

Also we finished ahead of Arkansas in the rivals rankings.

[GeauxTo]

Dandy Don needs to turn out the lights and get some rest. Ole Miss, while they got a very good class, did not out do the barn or Bama and Vandy did much better than Miss. St.

RTR
I'll go with DandyDon's rankings. You are pleased, and rightly so, because you got one outstanding recruit for your OL, but, otherwise, pretty much middle of the road or less. The Barn is similar. Ole Miss, on the other hand, did very, very well.

[supergenius]

I'll go with DandyDon's rankings. You are pleased, and rightly so, because you got one outstanding recruit for your OL, but, otherwise, pretty much middle of the road or less. The Barn is similar. Ole Miss, on the other hand, did very, very well.
Middle of the road? Bama got the # 2 Center, Mr Football in Miss., a Top 100 athlete, the 1th best wr, the top player in 5A Texas, the # 1 DB class in the nation, and @ worst the #2 OL class. It that is middle of the road then I will stardle the yellow loine all day. Have a good one Geaux, just remember not to get behind the wheel today!

RTR

[fernandomike]

Middle of the road? Bama got the # 2 Center, Mr Football in Miss., a Top 100 athlete, the 1th best wr, the top player in 5A Texas, the # 1 DB class in the nation, and @ worst the #2 OL class. It that is middle of the road then I will stardle the yellow loine all day. Have a good one Geaux, just remember not to get behind the wheel today!

RTR

Don't worry about Geaux driving, the court made him get one of those cars with the built-in breathalyzer. Too bad we can't make him blow before he posts.

[GeauxTo]

Don't worry about Geaux driving, the court made him get one of those cars with the built-in breathalyzer. Too bad we can't make him blow before he posts.Always sober, always fair and balanced.
:D

[Cianne]

the 1th best wr

I can't wait to see that guy get on the field :p

[uscrebel]

Middle of the road? Bama got the # 2 Center, Mr Football in Miss., a Top 100 athlete, the 1th best wr, the top player in 5A Texas, the # 1 DB class in the nation, and @ worst the #2 OL class. It that is middle of the road then I will stardle the yellow loine all day. Have a good one Geaux, just remember not to get behind the wheel today!

RTR

SuperG...

This year, Mr. Football in Mississippi was a 3-star player who was ranked as the #71 running back by Scout. Ole Miss signed the #12 and #48 runninn backs...both from Mississippi along with 4-star Mississippians Allen Walker and Terry Levy both rated in the top 25 at their positions. I will grant you that I still hurt from your taking Mr. Football last year, but I still don't understand how Grant got the nod.

[Cianne]

I will grant you that I still hurt from your taking Mr. Football last year, but I still don't understand how Grant got the nod.

Phenomenal stats and the fact that Rick Cleveland, a USM graduate, knows about as much about football as a two year old.

Johns made sense last year as there was no real great skill position player outside of Panola's Derek Pegues and even he didn't put up Johns' numbers nor lead an otherwise lackluster program to stardom.

[Denny Chimes]

I'll probably catch hell from my fellow Crimson Tiders but it probably was an average-slightly above average class. I'm only going off the recruiting experts rankings. I also realize that doesn't mean jack sheet in the long run but I'm not too ecstatic about a top 15 (on average) class. It is a step in the right direction, CMS is certainly earning his reputation as a good recruiter, and I think we filled needs at shallow positions. I'm too much of an elitist Bama fan to be content with the barn, Ole Siss and others being ranked higher, regardless of the expert opinion. I'm just glad we getting back to the full 85 on scholly. RTR!

[supergenius]

I'll probably catch hell from my fellow Crimson Tiders but it probably was an average-slightly above average class. I'm only going off the recruiting experts rankings. I also realize that doesn't mean jack sheet in the long run but I'm not too ecstatic about a top 15 (on average) class. It is a step in the right direction, CMS is certainly earning his reputation as a good recruiter, and I think we filled needs at shallow positions. I'm too much of an elitist Bama fan to be content with the barn, Ole Siss and others being ranked higher, regardless of the expert opinion. I'm just glad we getting back to the full 85 on scholly. RTR!
Ole Miss is not ranked higher and btw---hell, hell, hell, hell


RTR

[supergenius]

SuperG...

This year, Mr. Football in Mississippi was a 3-star player who was ranked as the #71 running back by Scout. Ole Miss signed the #12 and #48 runninn backs...both from Mississippi along with 4-star Mississippians Allen Walker and Terry Levy both rated in the top 25 at their positions. I will grant you that I still hurt from your taking Mr. Football last year, but I still don't understand how Grant got the nod.
Grant was a 4 Star. I pay no attention to Scout and nor should you.

RTR

[supergenius]

Phenomenal stats and the fact that Rick Cleveland, a USM graduate, knows about as much about football as a two year old.

Johns made sense last year as there was no real great skill position player outside of Panola's Derek Pegues and even he didn't put up Johns' numbers nor lead an otherwise lackluster program to stardom.
Your right, stats have no business in football!

RTR

[Cianne]

Grant was a 4 Star. I pay no attention to Scout and nor should you.

RTR

Gotta pay attention to the one that gives you credit for Ford, Stover, etc right?

[WDavE]

Here is a link to College Football News. They ranked their own Top 25 recruiting classes and have no built in bias towards any of us.

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2006/Recruiting/Recruiting_Top25.htm

[Noah.Dreams]

Given the fact that there is a tremendous jump between high school and SEC football, the only difference between being ranked number 1 in recruiting and 20 is an opinion. It's a very subjective opinion based on whether a player is a 3 star or a 5 star. Starting today, the criteria will be how one responds to coaching, a player's discipline, and their work ethic.

Urban Meyer said it best yesterday, "We have a great recruiting class and I'll leave it up to you guys to argue about who won what. Because starting today, it's all meaningless. The true measure of this class is what happens in the next four years. Will they graduate? Do we win championships? Will they be drafted by the NFL?"

I can't help but look back on the recruiting class of 2001 and evaluate how they measured up to expectations. Can anyone tell us how the SEC teams were ranked in recruiting 4 years ago? Did they exceed expectations?

[supergenius]

Gotta pay attention to the one that gives you credit for Ford, Stover, etc right?
I am consistant in my backing of Rivals. They are the best recruiting service out there.

RTR

[JerryBeeds]

I am consistant in my backing of Rivals. They are the best recruiting service out there.

RTR

Amen to that. I don't know about other schools scout.com sites, but ours Gamecocknation.com is horrible. I was a paid insider on that board for 2 years. After 2 years of no info, horrible player rankings, and a bunch of jerks on their message boards, I gave it up. I'll never go back to the site and I will never put stock into Scout's evaluation of talent.

[GeauxTo]

Given the fact that there is a tremendous jump between high school and SEC football, the only difference between being ranked number 1 in recruiting and 20 is an opinion. It's a very subjective opinion based on whether a player is a 3 star or a 5 star. Starting today, the criteria will be how one responds to coaching, a player's discipline, and their work ethic.
Very good post; right on the money.

[GatorHunter]

I am consistant in my backing of Rivals. They are the best recruiting service out there.

RTR

Of course you do...they give Bama credit for all of those prep-players... :o

[Djshockley3]

Good luck trying to talk about our class,lol. Cause there is nothing to say, but man what a great class!! :D

[autiger1126]

geaux, i really think you have some bias goin with ole miss recruits because you probably have heard a lot more about them since you go head-to-head with them more often. If you don't think that Auburn and Alabama had excellent classes, you haven't looked at the guys we brought in. Auburn outrecruited Ole Miss in almost every position position according to both rivals and scout. Another thing to remember is many of OM's guys are only gonna be there for a couple of years, rather than all 4 or 5. (Also, half of Ole Miss recruits are gonna either be academically ineligible or quit the team because of a crazy coach)

[WDavE]

Not a bad thing but I have heard that 8-9 of the Ole Miss recruits may not be eligible come spring.

You can't never let these guys go if you can sign them.

The only big problem is that most of the ones with problems are some of the highly prized ones and even the coaching staff is not sure how many there will be.

[JerryBeeds]

Not a bad thing but I have heard that 8-9 of the Ole Miss recruits may not be eligible come spring.

How is that not a bad thing? That would be terrible for Ole Miss if 8-9 of their recruits were ineligible. This class has been Coach O's saving grace and if 1/4 of their class were ineligible, that would be devastating to the future of their program.

[GeauxTo]

geaux, i really think you have some bias goin with ole miss recruits because you probably have heard a lot more about them since you go head-to-head with them more often. If you don't think that Auburn and Alabama had excellent classes, you haven't looked at the guys we brought in. Auburn outrecruited Ole Miss in almost every position position according to both rivals and scout. Another thing to remember is many of OM's guys are only gonna be there for a couple of years, rather than all 4 or 5. (Also, half of Ole Miss recruits are gonna either be academically ineligible or quit the team because of a crazy coach)
Good points, and I think Auburn clearly had a better class than Bammer. Ole Miss picking up QB Brent Schaeffer plus some of those big ole boys, like Powe (who may be a good fit with Orgeron because he's even crazier than Coach O) did really well, though. Ya'll picked up a heck of QB to backup Brandon Cox and everyone shows you ahead of Ole Miss and way ahead of the Tuscaloosers. Ole Miss did surprisingly well, though. Heck, I guess we all did!

[WDavE]

How is that not a bad thing? That would be terrible for Ole Miss if 8-9 of their recruits were ineligible. This class has been Coach O's saving grace and if 1/4 of their class were ineligible, that would be devastating to the future of their program.

It is not a bad thing for a couple of reasons.

Some of these guys are good enough that Ole Miss had to sign them even knowing that some would not be eligible. The percentages of a sign and place coming back after two years is pretty high. Usually the team placing the kid backs off for whatever reason. In most years Ole Miss would not have been a player on these kids...

Ole Miss oversigned knowing this......

The P.R. that Coach O is getting from the recruiting rankings buys him some more time after a bad season.

[WayzUp]

I think our class should get extra credit for Seaver Brown's mom looking the way she does. :D

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6733/seaverbrownsigns8th.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seaverbrownsigns8th.jpg)

[nooneLT]

I think our class should get extra credit for Seaver Brown's mom looking the way she does. :D

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6733/seaverbrownsigns8th.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seaverbrownsigns8th.jpg)

uh...that's his mom??? wow...

[AUTiger94]

uh...that's his mom??? wow...

Shwing! Shwing! shwing!


http://www.oxford.anglican.org/youthblog/archives/wayne%20garth-thumb.jpg

[supergenius]

Good points, and I think Auburn clearly had a better class than Bammer. Ole Miss picking up QB Brent Schaeffer plus some of those big ole boys, like Powe (who may be a good fit with Orgeron because he's even crazier than Coach O) did really well, though. Ya'll picked up a heck of QB to backup Brandon Cox and everyone shows you ahead of Ole Miss and way ahead of the Tuscaloosers. Ole Miss did surprisingly well, though. Heck, I guess we all did!

1 Southern Cal 24 5 14 5 4.00 3,020
2 Florida 27 4 17 5 3.89 2,901
3 Florida State 30 2 18 10 3.73 2,707
4 Georgia 27 2 13 12 3.63 2,371
5 Texas 25 2 11 12 3.60 2,283
6 Penn State 24 1 14 8 3.63 2,241
7 LSU 25 2 12 11 3.64 2,238
8 Notre Dame 27 2 10 14 3.48 2,190
9 Oklahoma 28 1 13 14 3.54 2,180
10 Auburn 25 1 14 7 3.52 2,148
11 Alabama 23 2 10 11 3.61 2,127
12 Ohio State 20 2 8 10 3.60 2,000
13 Michigan 19 2 9 7 3.63 1,974
14 Miami-FL 22 0 11 8 3.36 1,785
15 Clemson 20 2 6 10 3.40 1,741
16 Ole Miss 29 2 7 15 3.21 1,731
17 UCLA 22 0 7 13 3.23 1,544
18 Arizona 25 1

Ok Geaux, you are right, one spot is "way ahead". How about you pull your head out of your arse, repress your hatred of Alabama, and try to maintain what little credibility that you have left. Geez!

BTW, Tell Mr. Deas that it is against fashion to wear neon purple before memorial day.

RTR

[Cianne]

And now for ESPN's interpretation of Scout's rankings!

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/insider/news/story?id=2316358

1. Florida: A
The nation's best receiver, the nation's third-best quarterback and 11 ESPN 150 players. Urban Meyer sold his program well and has gotten the prospects he needs for both his spread offense and his 4-3 defense.

4. Georgia: A
Despite QB Matthew Stafford being largely anonymous throughout the recruiting process, he is one of the top quarterbacks in the country and will compete for the starting job. Georgia added safety Reshad Jones to cap off a stellar class in the defensive secondary. On signing day they also added a top running back, Knowshon Moreno.

8. LSU: A-
The Tigers have dominated the state of Louisiana and have added speed to their secondary with No. 1-rated corner Jai Eugene and three safeties rated 7.0 or above. LSU added another top defensive tackle, Charles Deas, to go along with No. 1-rated tackle Al Woods.

12. Auburn: B+
Last year's class was loaded on the defensive side, and this year the Tigers are meeting needs at quarterback and wide receiver. The defense hasn't been neglected, though, as they've filled needs along their front seven.

14. Mississippi: B
Ole Miss has not seen potential impact players like this since Eli and Archie Manning played in Oxford. High school teammates Markeith Summers (WR) and Allen Walker (S), together with RB Cordera Eason, make an explosive trio.

18. Alabama: B-
The strength of this class starts with the addition of in-state offensive lineman Andre Smith. Should be an impact player the moment he steps on campus. If QB Greg McElroy had played as a junior, he might have received much more publicity. He's a solid get after 'Bama missed out on QBs Tim Tebow and Mitch Mustain. The Tide's defensive back seven has some nice additions, including high-motor LB Charlie Higgenbotham.

20. Tennessee: B-
The Vols have a better class than many are giving them credit for. Sleeper QB Nick Stephens of Texas has real upside. They have three solid tight ends, though Lee Smith might end up being a defensive end at the college level.

Mississippi State: B-
Sylvester Croom's influence is making an impact -- a player like Reggie Odom in years past might not have gone to Mississippi State. The program is doing a decent job in its own state, but getting into Texas, Florida and Georgia will make a difference in the long haul.

Kentucky: B-
This is the Wildcats' best class in a long time. One player doesn't make or break a class, but keeping ILB Micah Johnson in-state was huge. He is a physical specimen who has the ability to play right away.

South Carolina: C+
Steve Spurrier managed to snag QB Chris Smelley of Alabama, a player who fits his offensive system. ESPN 150 DT Kenrick Ellis will be a good one down the line.

Arkansas: C+
Arkansas gets an A for its January finish, though. Springdale High School was one of the top teams in the country this year, and former head coach and new Arkansas offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn lured four of his players, including ESPN 150 QB Mitch Mustain.

Vanderbilt: C-
Jay Cutler was a sleeper, and so is QB Jared Funk of Illinois. He could be a late bloomer, and with a redshirt year he could be a good one.

[supergenius]

I think our class should get extra credit for Seaver Brown's mom looking the way she does. :D

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6733/seaverbrownsigns8th.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seaverbrownsigns8th.jpg)
I have contacted Rivals about bumping you guys up 2 spots, 1 for each of Mrs Brown's umm umm... arms!

RTR

[azamugg]

I have contacted Rivals about bumping you guys up 2 spots, 1 for each of Mrs Brown's umm umm... arms!

RTR


she must've been a young (16-17) mom that would make her around 35 now......I need to work, why am I getting "riled" up over a damn players mom :eek:

[downshall]

Another thing to remember is many of OM's guys are only gonna be there for a couple of years, rather than all 4 or 5. (Also, half of Ole Miss recruits are gonna either be academically ineligible or quit the team because of a crazy coach)

In the words of Led Zepplin, 'many is a word that only leaves you guessing'. If you define many as 6 then yes, many will only be there a couple of years. However, you've got to remember that 5 of those go against last year's class and therefore didn't prevent us signing any high school guys. Given that they should be able to contribute immediately it's not a bad move.

On the qualification front, I think 8-9 is grossly overstating the number that won't qualify. The latest I've heard is that 4-5 are in danger, and I'd expect one or two of those to make it. I don't think we're going to lose half the class.

[WDavE]

One of the things or players that I would be really worried about is any player that has to go to Prep school longer then a year.

He either had really bad grades or test scores when coming out or he still has poor study habits.

[GeauxTo]

Since we got Keiland Williams today, do you think that will jump us over Georgia?

[Cianne]

Since we got Keiland Williams today, do you think that will jump us over Georgia?

No. You're too many points back.

[GatorHunter]

Since we got Keiland Williams today, do you think that will jump us over Georgia?

Technically, NSD ended at 6:00pm Wed....but, Scout does a follow-up, so y'all could jump UGA if they have some non-qualifers....and LSU doesn't.

[BamaFan]

I think our class should get extra credit for Seaver Brown's mom looking the way she does. :D

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6733/seaverbrownsigns8th.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=seaverbrownsigns8th.jpg)

First decent reason Ive had to comment in months
I bet "The ole Ball Coach" had fun recruiting this one, I sure would have.

[uscrebel]

I have contacted Rivals about bumping you guys up 2 spots, 1 for each of Mrs Brown's umm umm... arms!

RTR

Hmmm... funny I didn't notice her arms.

:cool: