Ko will go!!!

[TrueGCFan]

All you have to do is read this to guess what he'll do. The only way him leaving or not would be a distraction to the team is if he's going. He's gone in my opinion. He'll be a 1st round pick and make millions. Go luck Ko!!!


http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/13453997.htm

[Djshockley3]

Selfish player right there, If your a Juinor and you are a Top 15 pick thats cool. But if your a Sophmore and you are only a Top 45 pick then you are one selfish player,IMO.

[pc72687]

Yes and no DJ. He was put on the backburner once by USC already (when he was greyshirted) so you have to feel for him there. He took a hard situation and made it better for himself. If he goes I hope he goes high so he can make some money out of his hard work.

[RW13]

I'm with DJ on this one....., I'm sick of the me me me culture......

[Djshockley3]

If he came back next season he might be a Top 10 pick. You know how much difference in money a top 45 pick to a top 10 pick makes. I just think that he is selfish, he could really lead you guys to a SECC next year, but he is more concerned about the money.

[Cianne]

If he came back next season he might be a Top 10 pick. You know how much difference in money a top 45 pick to a top 10 pick makes. I just think that he is selfish, he could really lead you guys to a SECC next year, but he is more concerned about the money.

I don't know Ko's situation (I do know that this is factoring into Patrick Willis' possible decision to leave early) but have thought about the fact that maybe his family needs the money? There may be something behind the scenes that would be prodding him towards leaving knowing he won't make as much money as he would next year.

[TrueGCFan]

Ko, is a great player and more important a great person. He is the heart of our defense and I'd hate to see him go. But if he does it's not because he dislikes Carolina. He has the chance to make millions of dollars and take care of his family for life. It's a gamble for him to come back. What if he gets hurt? What if he sucks it up? If he goes he still has nothing but love from TrueGC.

[RW13]

I'm sick of the take care of the family excuse, give me a break, but if they are on welfare it will last 1 more year. People have to support themselves, not pray that their kids will become professional athletes, b/c very few kids become paid athletes..., so that BS doesn't wash with me, this is all about the bling bling....

[Cianne]

I'm sick of the take care of the family excuse, give me a break, but if they are on welfare it will last 1 more year. People have to support themselves, not pray that their kids will become professional athletes, b/c very few kids become paid athletes..., so that BS doesn't wash with me, this is all about the bling bling....

Well then, I'm sure Ko or any other player would be truly sorry that he interrupted your football cheering experience to better off his family's welfare. Your attitude is also indicative of the me me me culture.

[RW13]

ok, it's real dumb to want these kids to get an education, God forbid they have a degree to fall back on when they tear an ACL, yeah, you're really looking out for the poor athlete there aren't you Cianne?

[Cianne]

ok, it's real dumb to want these kids to get an education, God forbid they have a degree to fall back on when they tear an ACL, yeah, you're really looking out for the poor athlete there aren't you Cianne?

And the poor athlete is looking out for his family. However, nothing you have said in this thread shows you care at all about the player's education.

[scunyon]

:eek: This thread is gonna get ugly before it's all over with. IMHO, you can always come back to school and finish your education, he may not get this same shot again due to reasons stated above. He needs to have a clause in his contract that says if doesn't make the team for whatever reason or is injured, that the team foots the bill for him to go back to school. I hope that he stays another year to develop a little more and get the butter off of his fingers that he had this year, but if not, I'll cheer for him on Sunday. :)

[Cianne]

:eek: This thread is gonna get ugly before it's all over with. IMHO, you can always come back to school and finish your education, he may not get this same shot again due to reasons stated above.

Exactly. Thanks for pointing that out.

[uscrules]

Money is good, but you can't buy great college memories as an athlete. He has a chance to be part of something special and no amount of money will ever make up for that if you miss out. I say the money will be there, only more. There is a big difference in being in the top ten and 45. Get your education, love what you are doing and keep doing it better. I don't think he will ever have to look back.

[scfan5338]

I don't know Ko's situation (I do know that this is factoring into Patrick Willis' possible decision to leave early) but have thought about the fact that maybe his family needs the money? There may be something behind the scenes that would be prodding him towards leaving knowing he won't make as much money as he would next year.

Money was the reason why Troy Williamson left last year. His family needed money. And actually he had an idea where he was going to go. It was for sure that he was going to go in the Top 15. Ko is probably going to go late 1st early 2nd.

[RW13]

Well, Troy's step-dad needed money......

[cocky4ever]

Money is good, but you can't buy great college memories as an athlete. He has a chance to be part of something special and no amount of money will ever make up for that if you miss out. I say the money will be there, only more. There is a big difference in being in the top ten and 45. Get your education, love what you are doing and keep doing it better. I don't think he will ever have to look back.
Tell that to Jason Allen......

[pc72687]

You can't tell these kids who are looking at a chance to go pro, every young athletes dream, that they can't cash in on it when the opportunity presents itself. I, like every other Gamecock fan would love for him to stay, but it is his life so he needs to make his decisions. I do think another year could only help him, but injury has to be something that is always going to be there in football. You must remember that when these athletes forgo the chance to go Pro and stick around it is considered an odd thing which is why it gets so much press when it happens.

[sgwallin]

Also might be worth noting that these kids aren't getting educations anyway (typically). When was the last time you were watching a game and the athletes major wasn't listed as Television or Recreation Management or Eating or something like that. The hole in the "get your degree" argument is that most of these kids are far too stupid to ever obtain a degree that would be worth anything in the first place...

[scunyon]

I think that calling them stupid is a little harsh :( You have to have some sort of cranial retention to absorb the schemes that they run in D1 football. Most of the time, they pick a major that is not going to have them inundated with term papers and heavy academic stress.

Besides, what does a major matter for these days? There are so many majors out there, that there aren't enough jobs for them all. Hell, my dad was a biology major and besides an internship many, many moons ago, he hasn't done anything closely related to biology except for cleaning fish.

[sgwallin]

I think that calling them stupid is a little harsh :( You have to have some sort of cranial retention to absorb the schemes that they run in D1 football. Most of the time, they pick a major that is not going to have them inundated with term papers and heavy academic stress.

Besides, what does a major matter for these days? There are so many majors out there, that there aren't enough jobs for them all. Hell, my dad was a biology major and besides an internship many, many moons ago, he hasn't done anything closely related to biology except for cleaning fish.

Point taken. Maybe stupid is harsh. But please don't try to tell me that you are as marketable in the workplace with a major in recreation/tourism as a degree in something specific or difficult (ie emerging markets in economics or something...) My point was simply that he should go to the NFL to get money, becuase I seriously doubt that upon his graduation he was going to work for NASA. As to your point about your father, the competition coming out of college right now is more selective than ever as unemployment rises and qualified people are more readily available. It does matter what you major in.

[pc72687]

I think the whole hotel/restuarant management is just a USC thing. Alot of schools have more diversified majors on the team. USC is just odd in that regard.

[AFWarrior83]

Good news for Arkansas fans, that's one less Defensive back our WR's have to worry about. Sorry to hear for you USC fans though, hopefully Mitch won't be greedy and will come to Arkansas!

[blues_cap]

guys, put yourselves in these kids' shoes. here's the scenario:

1: go early, get drafted late 1st and be an instant millionaire.
2: stay, maybe get drafted early first, take out insurance, become a millionaire.

point is, both will be millionaires but i havent seen anyone yet turn down 1 million for someone e;se's entertainment.

thinking these guys are thinking about "me" is quite selfish. who cares if they are thinking about themselves and not the regular football fan? yeah, you go to the games, give whenever possible, but think about how much entertainment these guys give the average football fan. they do not owe any one of us a damn thing. when was the last time anyone on this board made a business decision based on what south carolina's safety would do?

remember guys, business is business. put your personal feelings aside and put yourselves in ko's penny loafers.

[AFWarrior83]

If I could make a Mill, I would be gone to. At least he chose USC over all the other schools he had to choose from. I don't know who else recruited him, I am just saying...

[RW13]

I didn't know they taught "emerging markets" in economics at USC, I certainly didn't see that major...., maybe with our graduate program or something.....

[cocky4ever]

guys, put yourselves in these kids' shoes. here's the scenario:

1: go early, get drafted late 1st and be an instant millionaire.
2: stay, maybe get drafted early first, take out insurance, become a millionaire.

point is, both will be millionaires but i havent seen anyone yet turn down 1 million for someone e;se's entertainment.

thinking these guys are thinking about "me" is quite selfish. who cares if they are thinking about themselves and not the regular football fan? yeah, you go to the games, give whenever possible, but think about how much entertainment these guys give the average football fan. they do not owe any one of us a damn thing. when was the last time anyone on this board made a business decision based on what south carolina's safety would do?

remember guys, business is business. put your personal feelings aside and put yourselves in ko's penny loafers.
Good post, except Im sure that Ko doesnt wear penny loafers :D

[pc72687]

I think blues-cap said what I wanted to say/have been saying.

[GeauxTo]

I'm with DJ on this one....., I'm sick of the me me me culture......
Good point. Also, it never hurts to get that degree before you charge off into the world. Who knows how long they'll last in the rough and tumble NFL.

[SilverBritches]

ok, it's real dumb to want these kids to get an education, God forbid they have a degree to fall back on when they tear an ACL, yeah, you're really looking out for the poor athlete there aren't you Cianne?

A lot of kids who leave early go back to school in the offseason and earn their degree.

[JerryBeeds]

By: Phil Kornblut

According to a source in the football sports agency business, barring a last minute change of heart, USC defensive backs Ko Simpson and Jonathan Joseph plan to sign with an agent after the Independence Bowl and enter the NFL Draft. According to the source, the pair plan to sign with a New York agency. Simpson and Joseph have asked the NFL to evaluate their draft status. The source said agents are projecting Simpson to be picked from 15-20 in the first round.

[scunyon]

A lot of kids who leave early go back to school in the offseason and earn their degree.


If Shaq can do it, anybody can! And he's trying to get his doctorate next :cool:

[OmahaBound]

By: Phil Kornblut

According to a source in the football sports agency business, barring a last minute change of heart, USC defensive backs Ko Simpson and Jonathan Joseph plan to sign with an agent after the Independence Bowl and enter the NFL Draft. According to the source, the pair plan to sign with a New York agency. Simpson and Joseph have asked the NFL to evaluate their draft status. The source said agents are projecting Simpson to be picked from 15-20 in the first round.

god i really hope they've heard back from the nfl and aren't gambling on what agents are telling them. how many times have we seen a kid leave because an agent guaranteed a certain draft spot and the kid gets totally screwed?

worst case scenario for ko is probably early 2nd round so he wouldn't be that hurt, but i'm not so sure about joseph. he's shown good hands and glimpses of high quality play throughout the season, but i wouldn't label him as even close to the lock that ko is for success....and i'd be surprised if the nfl thought differently.

[GTmorris1970]

god i really hope they've heard back from the nfl and aren't gambling on what agents are telling them. how many times have we seen a kid leave because an agent guaranteed a certain draft spot and the kid gets totally screwed?

worst case scenario for ko is probably early 2nd round so he wouldn't be that hurt, but i'm not so sure about joseph. he's shown good hands and glimpses of high quality play throughout the season, but i wouldn't label him as even close to the lock that ko is for success....and i'd be surprised if the nfl thought differently.

Very good point. I have a couple of things to add. I for one am big on the education part of it, but that is the way I was raised. Education and grades come first, with sports and fun an afterthought. Another thing I would point out as sportsmanship and TEAMWORK. He has a chance to do something for himself and his teammates next season by possibly having them in contention for the SEC title. I don't buy this ordinary SEC fan crap. It's about teamwork, and helping your TEAM achieve its goals. Obviously he doesn't care about that, and don't think for one minute his NFL teammates won't take note of that. Lastly, Ko was not as good this year as 2004 IMO. In the UGA game for instance, he has 2 what should have been easy picks go right through his hands. There were other games where he dropped numerous pickoff opportunities this year. Yes, he can hit and he can tackle. However, he is a DB. If he cannot hold the ball, if sitting on the bench earning a paycheck till your traded off is what he is in to, good riddance. If he is not smart enough to earn a degree, he should not be there in the first place. There again. Just my opinion. :cool:

[pc72687]

I think Jo needs another season. I think KO could leave. I think both should want to stay and challenge for the big prize in the East.

[LedCock]

I think Jo needs another season. I think KO could leave. I think both should want to stay and challenge for the big prize in the East.

Agreed! With what we have coming back next year and the potential that this team has for winning a SEC title for the first time, how can you pass on that? :confused:

[uscrules]

I could tell you a million reasons!

[GTmorris1970]

Agreed! With what we have coming back next year and the potential that this team has for winning a SEC title for the first time, how can you pass on that? :confused:

There are also a lot of variables going to the NFL. For one, you have to prove you can play. A lot of guys are cut every year in the NFL. A lot of guys suffer career ending injuries in the NFL, sometimes in their first training camp. Is a team going to just keep paying him big money? No. I guess if that is what one wants out of life, to be uneducated and chase a football around as long as you can, then that is fine. There again, I was raised differently, and guess that is why my opinion differs. I personally wish they were not allowed to enter the draft till after their senior season. Matt Leinart is a perfect example of beliefs. He could have easily have left after last year, and many thought he would. Reasons he gave to stay. 1. To get better 2. To help USC keep winning, and enjoy the best years of his life while he can 3. To secure the friendships with his teammates that last a lifetime 4. Finish his education. That is the kind of player I respect. :cool:

[Carolina Cowboy]

I think linehart stayed because he new he needed to have surgery. I think the condition his arm was in he would not have been able to finish the NFL combines.

[cocky4ever]

There are also a lot of variables going to the NFL. For one, you have to prove you can play. A lot of guys are cut every year in the NFL. A lot of guys suffer career ending injuries in the NFL, sometimes in their first training camp. Is a team going to just keep paying him big money? No. I guess if that is what one wants out of life, to be uneducated and chase a football around as long as you can, then that is fine. There again, I was raised differently, and guess that is why my opinion differs. I personally wish they were not allowed to enter the draft till after their senior season. Matt Leinart is a perfect example of beliefs. He could have easily have left after last year, and many thought he would. Reasons he gave to stay. 1. To get better 2. To help USC keep winning, and enjoy the best years of his life while he can 3. To secure the friendships with his teammates that last a lifetime 4. Finish his education. That is the kind of player I respect. :cool:
Good post except the part about Leinart finishing his education. The only class he took this year is ballroom dancing.

[pc72687]

I am sure he took more then that because he wouldn't be eligible with that few hours.

[cocky4ever]

I am sure he took more then that because he wouldn't be eligible with that few hours.
"School's done for me -- I'm here to concentrate on football," he said.


Leinart will complete his schooling by taking a class in ballroom dancing with Cameron, a sophomore from Thousand Oaks who plays on USC's women's basketball team.



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2143657

[Cianne]

I am sure he took more then that because he wouldn't be eligible with that few hours.

Some schools allow you to take less than 12 hours or full-time student qualification in your last semester before graduation.

[GTmorris1970]

Good post except the part about Leinart finishing his education. The only class he took this year is ballroom dancing.

He is just completing his degree in Sociology. He needs a couple more credits. :)

[uscrules]

I am wondering with more big name underclassmen declaring for the draft, how this will affect Ko and JJ's draft status. I don't see JJ making it in the second round, which is one of the things he said would determine if he goes pro. Does anyone know if they have hired an agent yet?

[Williams-Brice]

If they have hired an agent, then they are definitely gone. Because we haven't heard for certain that they are leaving, I am in no way going to assume they have hired agents. I think we would have heard that. I think Joseph is going to stay, and I think Ko will be told what we Gamecock fans are fearing. I hope they both stay, but you can't hate on kids wanting to start their pro-careers. It's a young man's game.

[GTmorris1970]

I am wondering with more big name underclassmen declaring for the draft, how this will affect Ko and JJ's draft status. I don't see JJ making it in the second round, which is one of the things he said would determine if he goes pro. Does anyone know if they have hired an agent yet?

I agree about their status possibly being affected. Also, with all the underclassmen that are starting to go pro, how is it going to affect college football in general? :cool:

[WayzUp]

Also, with all the underclassmen that are starting to go pro, how is it going to affect college football in general? :cool:
It sure affected us this year...our offense would have been light years better had Troy Williamson been around to stretch the field. He and Sidney Rice would have been one of the best WR tandems in the nation & while it probably wouldn't have made much difference in the Alabama & Auburn games, it certainly could have in the UGA, Clemson and Missouri games. Enough to turn a L into a W? Who knows....but that's just it, we'll never know and that's a shame.

With all that money (a big chunk guaranteed for rookies) staring them in the face, how can you blame any of these kids for going early if they know they're going to go high enough to get that guaranteed money?

MY IDEA: Perhaps the NFL should have a "Senior Bonus" to be paid to rookies who play all four years in college AND GRADUATE. Make it a sum that is guaranteed, large enough to make it worth it, paid out of a pot all NFL teams must contribute to and have it not count against the salary cap for the teams picking the kids who decide to go back for another year or two, whatever the case may be, to finish their college careers. How's that for an idea to entice kids to stay in school & get a degree? :cool:

[uscrules]

The NFL could care less if they stay until their senior year. If they see someone that will help them, they want them. If there is to be any incentive or governing body to influence them, it will have to come from the NCAA.

[Williams-Brice]

I would think the NFL would want these kids to come out early. It's a young man's game. What I have always read is that the prime years of a player's NFL career are years 4-7. If a kid comes out early, you can probably add an extra year on that player's career, assuming there are no major injuries. NFL teams wouldn't like having to pay that bonus at all.

[WayzUp]

I would think the NFL would want these kids to come out early. It's a young man's game. What I have always read is that the prime years of a player's NFL career are years 4-7. If a kid comes out early, you can probably add an extra year on that player's career, assuming there are no major injuries. NFL teams wouldn't like having to pay that bonus at all.
I'd agree totally with you WB if the NFL didn't fight like rabid pit bulls to keep Maurice "stick 'em up" Clarrett and Mike Williams from entering the draft early a couple years ago. I think NFL teams are forced to gamble on underclassmen because they feel if they don't, their division rival will. If I remember right, it was the Rules & Competition Committee the NFL put together that fought that Clarrett case and that's where I'd start with proposing some kind of incentive for these kids to stay in school, especially when the number of early entry players who fail completely is about even with those who make it for 4-7 years.

Or at least allow these kids to speak to an NFL player (like through the Players Association) to get more of a feel for exactly what it is to be an NFL football player because I'm sure more than a few of these early entry guys look back after a couple years and wished they'd have stayed that last year or two.

[TrueGCFan]

Apparently ESPN doesn't think Ko is a 1st round draft pick. I don't know if it's because they don't think he's coming out or that he needs more college time.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?id=2279106

[WayzUp]

Apparently ESPN doesn't think Ko is a 1st round draft pick. I don't know if it's because they don't think he's coming out or that he needs more college time.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?id=2279106
Where do they have him going? I am not privy to ESPN's insider information. :o

[GTmorris1970]

It sure affected us this year...our offense would have been light years better had Troy Williamson been around to stretch the field. He and Sidney Rice would have been one of the best WR tandems in the nation & while it probably wouldn't have made much difference in the Alabama & Auburn games, it certainly could have in the UGA, Clemson and Missouri games. Enough to turn a L into a W? Who knows....but that's just it, we'll never know and that's a shame.

With all that money (a big chunk guaranteed for rookies) staring them in the face, how can you blame any of these kids for going early if they know they're going to go high enough to get that guaranteed money?

MY IDEA: Perhaps the NFL should have a "Senior Bonus" to be paid to rookies who play all four years in college AND GRADUATE. Make it a sum that is guaranteed, large enough to make it worth it, paid out of a pot all NFL teams must contribute to and have it not count against the salary cap for the teams picking the kids who decide to go back for another year or two, whatever the case may be, to finish their college careers. How's that for an idea to entice kids to stay in school & get a degree? :cool:

I personally LOVE your idea. I don't mean to keep harping on this subject, but like I have said before, I am big into education. That is the reason you go to college, just like football is a side item in high school. Kudos to those who are good enough to play at the next level, but finish college first. Make all you can be of yourself. That is my opinion. And yes, I agree, imagine if we had Rice lining up opposite Troy this season. My gracious that would be IMPOSSIBLE to stop. :cool:

[Williams-Brice]

I'd agree totally with you WB if the NFL didn't fight like rabid pit bulls to keep Maurice "stick 'em up" Clarrett and Mike Williams from entering the draft early a couple years ago. I think NFL teams are forced to gamble on underclassmen because they feel if they don't, their division rival will. If I remember right, it was the Rules & Competition Committee the NFL put together that fought that Clarrett case and that's where I'd start with proposing some kind of incentive for these kids to stay in school, especially when the number of early entry players who fail completely is about even with those who make it for 4-7 years.

Or at least allow these kids to speak to an NFL player (like through the Players Association) to get more of a feel for exactly what it is to be an NFL football player because I'm sure more than a few of these early entry guys look back after a couple years and wished they'd have stayed that last year or two.

The NFL knew that if they made an exception for those guys, then there would be situations like that every year when they would be forced to make more exceptions. The NFL is so perfectly run. One of the reasons the league is the most successful professional sports leagues in the world is the fact that everything is equal. An exception for one should be an exception for all. The NFL has a system, and it was followed, and hopefully no exceptions will ever have to be made like the one Clarrett wanted (I don't really hold much against Mike Williams. He was basically the odd man out.).

You do make some good points and raise some good questions. I would argue that the ones who leave early and fail is greater than the ones who succeed. I doubt it's 50/50.

[TrueGCFan]

Where do they have him going? I am not privy to ESPN's insider information. :o
All they have is a projected 1st round. They haven't started on other rounds yet. That'll come in the next few weeks.

[Bongo]

All they have is a projected 1st round. They haven't started on other rounds yet. That'll come in the next few weeks.


So, has Ko officially heard from the NFL and knows that he would be selected in the first round ? I heard on one of the sports talk shows the other night that he head not yet gotten offical notification from the NFL. Guess we'll know by the 15th though.

[blues_cap]

There are also a lot of variables going to the NFL. For one, you have to prove you can play. A lot of guys are cut every year in the NFL. A lot of guys suffer career ending injuries in the NFL, sometimes in their first training camp. Is a team going to just keep paying him big money? No. I guess if that is what one wants out of life, to be uneducated and chase a football around as long as you can, then that is fine. There again, I was raised differently, and guess that is why my opinion differs. I personally wish they were not allowed to enter the draft till after their senior season. Matt Leinart is a perfect example of beliefs. He could have easily have left after last year, and many thought he would. Reasons he gave to stay. 1. To get better 2. To help USC keep winning, and enjoy the best years of his life while he can 3. To secure the friendships with his teammates that last a lifetime 4. Finish his education. That is the kind of player I respect. :cool:

not flaming on you here b/c like you said, it is your opinion. imo, leinart made a mistake that will cost him millions. he went from the 1st player taken to probably the 3rd at the highest. that is a little difference in $$$$. it may not matter in the long run as he will have plenty of money, but given the oppurtunity, there is no way in hell i would turn down the oppurtunity to be financially set for life, as well as setting my family(i know my dad is ready to retire b/c i am 25 and ready).

[cockyhoskins]

So, has Ko officially heard from the NFL and knows that he would be selected in the first round ? I heard on one of the sports talk shows the other night that he head not yet gotten offical notification from the NFL. Guess we'll know by the 15th though.

JJ is in NJ working with a trainer. Ko is heading there this week to join him. They are both gone.

[Williams-Brice]

Good info, Hoskins. How did you know that?

[cockyhoskins]

Got it second hand from a poster on my site. He is personal friends with JJ and knew first hand that he is in NJ.

[cockyhoskins]

Simpson, Joseph expected to announce for NFL today
Heffner and Ashcraft to transfer

By JOSEPH PERSON
Staff Writer

USC has scheduled a teleconference for this afternoon during which defensive backs Ko Simpson and Johnathan Joseph are expected to announce that they will forgo their remaining eligibility to enter April’s NFL draft.USC sports information director Steve Fink would not confirm that the two Rock Hill natives are leaving school early.
But Fink said that Simpson and Joseph “will not be here in person.”
Classes for USC’s spring semester began today.
Simpson and Joseph both said before the Independence Bowl that they would enter the draft if the NFL’s underclassman advisory committee projected them as first- or-second round-picks.
Simpson was a first-team, All-SEC selection at rover in 2005 after finishing as the leading tackler among the conference’s defensive backs. The 22-year-old Simpson is a sophomore, but eligible for the draft because he is at least 21 and has been out of high school for three years.
Joseph, a junior cornerback, tied for the SEC lead with four interceptions in his first full season as a starter. The junior college transfer missed most of the ’04 season with a broken foot.
Also, Fink said backup quarterback Antonio Heffner and reserve tailback Albert Ashcraft have transferred. Heffner will play for Division I-AA Tennessee State, while Ashcraft plans to run track at Western Carolina, according to Fink.
Heffner, a redshirt freshman from Memphis, made his only start in a 48-7 loss at Auburn when Blake Mitchell was out with a sprained ankle. He was 22-of-33 passing for 236 yards and also rushed for 67 yards on 28 carries.

[TrueGCFan]

Ouch. I think both Simpson and Joseph are making a big mistake. If both would wait one more year they'd make millions more. Ko will go in the 3rd round. Joseph will go in day number 2. They will be missed. Good luck in the NFL.

[Bongo]

Ouch. I think both Simpson and Joseph are making a big mistake. If both would wait one more year they'd make millions more. Ko will go in the 3rd round. Joseph will go in day number 2. They will be missed. Good luck in the NFL.


I agree. Good luck to both, but you have to beleive that their stock would rise with another year. I'm sure they could "find" the money to but some disability insurance for another year in College. But hey, I guess they're ready to get paid.

[WayzUp]

I still think JJ is making a mistake. Look at how long it took Sheldon Brown and Andre Goodman to adjust to the NFL game and they were both far better than JJ is at the moment. Of course, they stuck around for their senior years, didn't they?

[pc72687]

I think Heffner made the best choice for himself. He was kinda pushed aside because he wasn't really suited for Spurrier's offense so I hope he does well in his new college.

Ko will go pretty early, JJ will go no where near where he hopes to go.

[OmahaBound]

In today's paper (The State) they say Ko won't divulge where the NFL advisory committee projected him other than to say it was not the 1st round. They speak to a draft expert who projects Ko in the 2nd or 3rd round and JJ in the 4th round but possibly the 3rd.

If these are the projections the NFL gave them, then my only question has to be: 'HOW STUPID ARE THESE GUYS?'

I always figured JJ would be a 3rd round projection at best so I thought he'd return....clearly I haven't thought this out as well as he is.

Ko clearly has the potential to be a 1st rounder if he would have stayed another year or two. You better blow away those workouts, Ko, cause if you don't go in the early 2nd round or earlier you will have made a HUGE mistake that will cost you financially for the rest of your career (only the best safeties make good money in the NFL).

Maybe these kids thought the NFL was the NBA where you just need to make the roster to get a couple million dollars. Newsflash guys, the same amount of money that is spread around 12 guys in the NBA, is spread around 50+ in the NFL.

By the way, I have no problem with kids leaving school early. Often I think it's the right decision....but depending on what happens in April, it seems these kids both made the wrong decision.

[pc72687]

I think Ko made a fine choice because he will go pretty high. Jo will not go very high at all so I think he made a bad choice.

[SilverBritches]

I hope the Falcons will pick up Ko at #15 if Michael Huff from Texas isn't there.

[Williams-Brice]

SilverBritches, where do you think Greg Blue will end up? I'm surprised you mention Simpson and Huff before Blue.

[Djshockley3]

SilverBritches, where do you think Greg Blue will end up? I'm surprised you mention Simpson and Huff before Blue.



I think Blue will be a top 30 pick, somewhere in the first round.

[Dr. Pepper]

Blue is an awesome dude. How fast is he?

[Djshockley3]

Blue is an awesome dude. How fast is he?


Don't know I would say 4.5 or 4.6!!

[pc72687]

How is Blue in coverage, I know KO is great, but what about Blue?

[Djshockley3]

How is Blue in coverage, I know KO is great, but what about Blue?



Not very good, he is very similar to Thomas Davis great hitter, but bad in coverage.

[Williams-Brice]

True that! Greg Blue can bring some! I tell you what, as much as I dislike Georgia, I admire the way the Bulldogs play defense with so much passion and intensity. They play hard, tackle well, and ALWAYS hit hard.

That being said, I can't stand them!

[SPURED]

True that! Greg Blue can bring some! I tell you what, as much as I dislike Georgia, I admire the way the Bulldogs play defense with so much passion and intensity. They play hard, tackle well, and ALWAYS hit hard.

That being said, I can't stand them!
I Actually found myself pulling for UGA all this year except in week 2. i actually have alot of respect for there program. im hopeing Spurrier can get ours to that level one day soon. that being said i believe we will beat UGA this upcoming year.....i think i have predicted us over UGA every year for the last 5 years ;)

[pc72687]

UGA is definitly one of the more consistent teams in the SEC or even D1. Not even the might Southern Cal has been great every year, before their doimination (excepting this year) they were kinda up and down.