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SilverBritches
12-08-2005, 09:11 PM
The AP voted Spurrier as SEC Coach of the Year and the SEC Coaches voted Richt SEC Coach of the Year. Who do you think it should be?
SilverBritches
12-08-2005, 09:17 PM
Personally, I am not sure who I think should win it. Both are very deserving.
Mark Richt lost the heart and soul of his team on offense and defense. With the losses of superstars such as Thurman, Davis, Pollack, Brown, Gibson, and Greene, most thought Georgia would fade into oblivion and finish 3rd and even 4th in the SEC. Georgia proved their critics wrong and brought home their 12 SEC Championship.
Steve Spurrier took over in a sticky situation. He had a lot of discipline problems and kicked off a bunch of quality players. I was at the Auburn vs. South Carolina game and I thought to myself, "what has Spurrier gotten himself into?" Boy, was I wrong. South Carolina won their 5 remaining SEC games and beat Tennessee and Florida in the process. A heart breaking loss to Clemson took some of the shine off the magnificent season, but it was still just that, a magnificent season.
Cianne
12-08-2005, 09:47 PM
Personally, I don't care much at all what the AP thinks hence my vote.
GeauxTo
12-08-2005, 09:54 PM
Both are deserving, but Spurrier did great things without much; Richt did pretty much what was expected with the talent he had.
Spurrierismyhomeboy
12-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Well, you know who I voted for. We lost are top 2 running backs, our best defensive player, not to mention 11 players arrested and kicked off, started a first year QB, RB, WR(at every position). Had to learn a new Offensive and Defensive system, and still were only a missed extra point from the SEC title game. Now who's your coach of the year!!!!!
Cianne
12-08-2005, 10:24 PM
Now who's your coach of the year!!!!!
Mark Richt :p
Spurrierismyhomeboy
12-08-2005, 10:34 PM
Well your wrong.
Cianne
12-08-2005, 10:46 PM
Well your wrong.
Obviously not. The coaches agree with me.
GTmorris1970
12-08-2005, 10:54 PM
Like has been stated. With what Spurrier took over, and had left when the smoke cleared, and to lose to Alabama and get taken to the woodshed by Auburn, and turn around with 5 straight SEC wins, beating 2 of the big three, and losing to the third by 2 points in his first year with the rag tag bunch he had with numerous freshmen starting, Steve Spurrier deserved coach of the year.
SilverBritches
12-09-2005, 03:26 PM
Both are deserving, but Spurrier did great things without much; Richt did pretty much what was expected with the talent he had.
I agree that both are deserving but how can you say Richt did was he was expected to do with the talent he had? We were picked 3rd and even 4th in the SEC East. Everybody claimed that we lost too much star power to stay competitive in the SEC. Yet we were a sprained MCL and a busted coverage away from being undefeated.
WayzUp
12-09-2005, 03:39 PM
I agree that both are deserving but how can you say Richt did was he was expected to do with the talent he had? We were picked 3rd and even 4th in the SEC East. Everybody claimed that we lost too much star power to stay competitive in the SEC. Yet we were a sprained MCL and a busted coverage away from being undefeated.
Who picked UGA 3rd or 4th in the East??? :confused: That's new to me...the only question mark UGA had was DJ Shockley and the WR corp (which wasn't really a question mark given the ultimate safety valve named Pope) and those weren't really question marks. Yeah, you lost a lot of stars but arguably the SEC's best offensive line was expected (and did) take a lot of pressure off those who came in to replace those leaving.
Spurrier by far did more with less. Doing more with less is what coaching is all about. Richt did a fantastic job but he started this year's job last year and the year before by giving DJ in-game playing time to get him ready for his one-year shot at starting QB. Blake Mitchell spent most of that time on the bar scene.
71 days of recruiting & a top 20 class which played a huge part in our 7-4 season. Coaching up guys that either didn't play under Holtz or didn't play well under Holtz...booting off the rest....all apologies to Richt because I have nothing but respect for the job he did this year and does every year but the 2005 coach of the year in every way was Steve Spurrier. I, for one, cannot be convinced otherwise.
pc72687
12-09-2005, 03:42 PM
I went with Spurrier but you could make an agrugment for Richt. So really its a toss up and I am glad they split it.
TrueGCFan
12-09-2005, 03:43 PM
I think if you look back to the beginning of the season no would of guess SC would beat both Fl and Tn. Most people nationally had SC winning 4 games at the most. If you look at how he turn SC around the Ol Ball Coach is the SEC Coach of the Year.
Richt and UGA had an amazing year. And if it wasn't for SC Richt would of won it hands down. Congrats to UGA and Go Dawgs win the Sugar Bowl.
Djshockley3
12-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Wayz, everyone picked UGA to be 3rd in the east.Pretty much everyone said they would be behind UT and UF, and like Silver said we are a busted coverage and a Sprained MCL away from being undefeated.
SilverBritches
12-09-2005, 03:53 PM
Who picked UGA 3rd or 4th in the East??? :confused: That's new to me...the only question mark UGA had was DJ Shockley and the WR corp (which wasn't really a question mark given the ultimate safety valve named Pope) and those weren't really question marks. Yeah, you lost a lot of stars but arguably the SEC's best offensive line was expected (and did) take a lot of pressure off those who came in to replace those leaving.
The media, the coaches, everyone picked UGA 3rd in the East, myself included. Mark Richt took our biggest question mark and turned him into the best overall QB in the league.
the 2005 coach of the year in every way was Steve Spurrier. I, for one, cannot be convinced otherwise.
The SEC Coaches obviously think otherwise.
Spurrierismyhomeboy
12-09-2005, 04:20 PM
The Coaches are idiots!!!!
WayzUp
12-09-2005, 04:47 PM
The media, the coaches, everyone picked UGA 3rd in the East, myself included. Mark Richt took our biggest question mark and turned him into the best overall QB in the league.
With that line, RB corp & Pope...SECTalk's DJ_Shockley could have a shot at best overall QB in the league. Blake Mitchell (SOPH) was a better rated QB as a first time starter with the exact same number of pass attempts. Not to mention DJ had David Greene, the SEC all-time leader in wins, to learn from the past three years...or that he got to see enough playing time in mop-up duty over the last two to get a feel for the speed of the SEC game. Blake was in a bar, most likely, and he still was the better rated passer of the two. With our patchwork O-line "protecting" him, which is the better coaching job THIS YEAR? That kind of coaching over the course of 3-4 years is what makes Richt one of the nation's best but he didn't do more with less this year than Spurrier, no offense.
The SEC Coaches obviously think otherwise.
I can't explain that just as I can't explain how Sidney Rice won the NATIONAL freshman of the year award only to lose the SEC freshman of the year. Spurrier wins the NATIONAL coach of the year but not the SEC coach of the year. Anyone else find that odd even though it's such an easy argument to make for South Carolina? The only thing I can think of is denial.
I would like to make it perfectly clear that I by no means think Richt didn't do an amazing job this year. Spurrier just trumped it with a miraculous job, that's all. Wrap yourself in whatever blanket that keeps you warmest, I guess. That's my plan. :D :cool:
SilverBritches
12-09-2005, 05:46 PM
The Coaches are idiots!!!!
Right, the 12 guys that know the league better than anyone are idiots. :rolleyes:
usafbamafan
12-09-2005, 05:54 PM
With that line, RB corp & Pope...SECTalk's DJ_Shockley could have a shot at best overall QB in the league. Blake Mitchell (SOPH) was a better rated QB as a first time starter with the exact same number of pass attempts. Not to mention DJ had David Greene, the SEC all-time leader in wins, to learn from the past three years...or that he got to see enough playing time in mop-up duty over the last two to get a feel for the speed of the SEC game. Blake was in a bar, most likely, and he still was the better rated passer of the two. With our patchwork O-line "protecting" him, which is the better coaching job THIS YEAR? That kind of coaching over the course of 3-4 years is what makes Richt one of the nation's best but he didn't do more with less this year than Spurrier, no offense.
I can't explain that just as I can't explain how Sidney Rice won the NATIONAL freshman of the year award only to lose the SEC freshman of the year. Spurrier wins the NATIONAL coach of the year but not the SEC coach of the year. Anyone else find that odd even though it's such an easy argument to make for South Carolina? The only thing I can think of is denial.
I would like to make it perfectly clear that I by no means think Richt didn't do an amazing job this year. Spurrier just trumped it with a miraculous job, that's all. Wrap yourself in whatever blanket that keeps you warmest, I guess. That's my plan. :D :cool:
I thought Joe Pa won the National Coach of the Year?
SilverBritches
12-09-2005, 06:05 PM
With that line, RB corp & Pope...SECTalk's DJ_Shockley could have a shot at best overall QB in the league.
Is that why our offense didn't miss a beat when Tereshinski started for the Florida game?
Blake Mitchell (SOPH) was a better rated QB as a first time starter with the exact same number of pass attempts.
DJ Shockley led the SEC with a pass efficiency of 146.7. Blake Mitchell was 5th in the SEC at 135.1. They both attempted 277 passes and shockley completed 153 while Blake completed 166. If you take away our plethora of dropped passes then that stat is a wash. DJ Shockley threw 21 TDs and 5 INTs and Mitchell threw 15 TDs and 9 INTs.
They are both great QBs but Mitchell was not a better QB than Shockley this year.
SilverBritches
12-09-2005, 06:06 PM
I thought Joe Pa won the National Coach of the Year?
He did win it this year.
usafbamafan
12-09-2005, 07:57 PM
With that line, RB corp & Pope...SECTalk's DJ_Shockley could have a shot at best overall QB in the league. Blake Mitchell (SOPH) was a better rated QB as a first time starter with the exact same number of pass attempts. Not to mention DJ had David Greene, the SEC all-time leader in wins, to learn from the past three years...or that he got to see enough playing time in mop-up duty over the last two to get a feel for the speed of the SEC game. Blake was in a bar, most likely, and he still was the better rated passer of the two. With our patchwork O-line "protecting" him, which is the better coaching job THIS YEAR? That kind of coaching over the course of 3-4 years is what makes Richt one of the nation's best but he didn't do more with less this year than Spurrier, no offense.
I can't explain that just as I can't explain how Sidney Rice won the NATIONAL freshman of the year award only to lose the SEC freshman of the year. Spurrier wins the NATIONAL coach of the year but not the SEC coach of the year. Anyone else find that odd even though it's such an easy argument to make for South Carolina? The only thing I can think of is denial.
I would like to make it perfectly clear that I by no means think Richt didn't do an amazing job this year. Spurrier just trumped it with a miraculous job, that's all. Wrap yourself in whatever blanket that keeps you warmest, I guess. That's my plan. :D :cool:
Are you really putting that much stock in Rivals.com awards?
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=485090
Sure it's great and all, but I would much rather be voted as the best Frosh by the SEC coaches than some website. C'mon man, Sydney is a great player, but so is McFadden. I would say that McFadden had a larger impact on his team this year. I think that is why the coaches chose him.
Also, Where are you seeing Spurrier as the National Coach of the year?
I personally think Spurrier did a great job this year. However, I think it is very humorous that the Cockfans were telling us Bama fans before the season that the you would stomp all over Bama this year because you had more talent even though you lost some players in the offseason. Now your tune has changed dramatically. Now you claim that you had no talent and Steve Spurrier did the best coaching job this year in the SEC because you beat one more team than last year. My opinion is that your schedule was easier this year because the East was so much weaker, and yes Spurrier did a great job, but Richt won the SEC Championship with a first year starting QB and a defense that lost a ton of talent to the NFL. Tommy Tubberville would get my runner-up award because of what he did with a brand new backfield. Spurrier is a distant third, but I believe he will be the first coach to lead SC to an SEC championship game. I know you will all disagree with me, but that is how I see it.
JerryBeeds
12-09-2005, 08:03 PM
I voted for Richt. He did an outstanding job this year.
usafbamafan
12-09-2005, 08:13 PM
I voted for Richt. He did an outstanding job this year.
You are always the voice of reason in a sea of homers. :D
Djshockley3
12-09-2005, 08:20 PM
I voted for Richt. He did an outstanding job this year.
Beeds you are the most realistic person here. :D
JerryBeeds
12-09-2005, 08:30 PM
I think Richt deserves the award, but the perception that Spurrier worked miracles this year helps our recruiting tremendously.
WayzUp
12-09-2005, 09:04 PM
Are you really putting that much stock in Rivals.com awards?
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=485090
I don't frequent rivals, i only ever go there when links here take me there. So no, I don't put stock into anything other than what I see on the field, in the numbers and the difference the player/coach in question makes on their team.
Sure it's great and all, but I would much rather be voted as the best Frosh by the SEC coaches than some website. C'mon man, Sydney is a great player, but so is McFadden. I would say that McFadden had a larger impact on his team this year. I think that is why the coaches chose him.
I say again, it's a ____ OF THE YEAR award. McFadden, as great a player he obviously is, only had 5 or 6 great games and half of those were against fodder-type teams. Sidney Rice got it done ALL YEAR LONG, hence the award name, Freshman OF THE YEAR. If they would give out a "Freshman With the Best 5 Games" award, I'd concede that in a heartbeat no questions. But it's supposed to be based FOR THE WHOLE YEAR. It's not my fault Nutt didn't start him at the beginning of the season or that he laid an egg against Ole Miss ( :eek: ) and LSU when they needed him most.
Also, Where are you seeing Spurrier as the National Coach of the year?
Where I got national coach of the year is a good question. I think I got the AP one mixed up in my head as having more of a national perspective than the SEC coaches one and my 6 friends named Miller (strange how they all have the same name..) because I've said for awhile that JoePa would be the only other coach who I thought did as good or better job than Spurrier did this past year. I thought it then and I think it now and I'll argue till the horse is thoroughly dead because it's true. No coach did more with less this year than Steve Spurrier. I can relate to the JoePa selection because he turned a team everyone thought would suck into one of the better ones in the nation.
I personally think Spurrier did a great job this year. However, I think it is very humorous that the Cockfans were telling us Bama fans before the season that the you would stomp all over Bama this year because you had more talent even though you lost some players in the offseason. Now your tune has changed dramatically. Now you claim that you had no talent and Steve Spurrier did the best coaching job this year in the SEC because you beat one more team than last year.
I can only speak for myself on this point...I was confident until we started losing players left and right before the season started. I stopped talkin' so much when that all started happenin' and living up in Michigan, I hadn't seen Croyle play much at all so I honestly didn't know he was that good so I generalized 'Bama's QB position by what I saw when we beat yer arses at yer place two years ago...yah, big mistake. But one I learned from; which is why SEC football is what it is. :cool:
My opinion is that your schedule was easier this year because the East was so much weaker, and yes Spurrier did a great job, but Richt won the SEC Championship with a first year starting QB and a defense that lost a ton of talent to the NFL. Tommy Tubberville would get my runner-up award because of what he did with a brand new backfield. Spurrier is a distant third, ~snip
East was so much weaker..? Riiiggghhhtt. Everyone knows about UT but who else? Florida? They seem weaker cuz WE beat them. Vandy's cinderella season more or less ended when WE beat them. An East team is the SEC Champion, dominated LSU no less, but it's "so much weaker." Riiiiiggghhhhtt. Tubby's brand new backfield? Kenny Irons played SEC football before, if I remember correctly. That's not 'brand new'; that's new used...not quite the same. But close. :)
Seriously, it's all based on perspective & part of me thinks the SEC coaches don't have much when it comes to Steve Spurrier and the players he coaches. Like I said, wrap yourself in whatever blanket you find warmest. That's my plan anyway.
rabidcock
12-09-2005, 09:06 PM
You are always the voice of treason in a sea of homers. :D
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ABOUT OUR beeds! :eek:
WayzUp
12-09-2005, 09:09 PM
I voted for Richt. He did an outstanding job this year.
Beeds, you've been an unbeliever since the beginning of the season and I'll never understand it. You predicted us to finish what? 4-7? 3-8? How can you predict that, see what all we lost in suspensions/dismissals/stupidity, watch us go 7-4 after starting 2-3 and not consider that a greater coaching job than Richt? You talk about changing the culture....dood, a lot of times you sound like that culture we're in the middle of changing.
You know I love you man but you need to poop or get off the pot.
usafbamafan
12-09-2005, 09:52 PM
East was so much weaker..? Riiiggghhhtt. Everyone knows about UT but who else? Florida? They seem weaker cuz WE beat them. Vandy's cinderella season more or less ended when WE beat them. An East team is the SEC Champion, dominated LSU no less, but it's "so much weaker." Riiiiiggghhhhtt. Tubby's brand new backfield? Kenny Irons played SEC football before, if I remember correctly. That's not 'brand new'; that's new used...not quite the same. But close. :)
Georgia is a great football team and I was on their bandwagon all year. I had them picked for the SEC Championship game. However, Florida and Tennessee stunk it up all year. Auburn, LSU and Bama are heads and tails above Georgia, Florida, South Carolina. Top to bottom, the divisions are probably equal with a slight edge to the East. However, the top 3 teams in the West are much stronger than the top 3 teams from the East. That was my point. South Carolina had a better record because both Tennessee and Florida had horrible years. Same thing goes for Alabama, Tennessee and Florida made us think we were better than we actually were. I was waiting for reality to strike all year and it did in the last 2 games.
Does Spurrier deserve coach of the year for beating Florida and Tennessee? If he does, why doesn't Shula deserve it for beating the same teams and having a better overall record? Face it, South Carolina and Bama both lost to the teams that really matter. SC lost to Georgia and Clemson. Bama lost to LSU and Auburn. If you want to win coach of the year, you need to beat your rivals and win your division. Coach Richt didn't beat Florida, but he won the SEC. Whereas Tommy Tubberville didn't win his division but beat his main rival and had a great season with a brand new backfield (I don't believe Irons ever played a game for SC, thats why he transferred). Both of these coaches are much more deserving than Spurrier. Take a step back, pull off your garnet glasses and look at the big picture. Heck, You could make a case that Les Miles deserved to win it more than Spurrier.
I'm not trying to bash the guy, I think Coach Spurrier is an excellent coach. I just don't think he is deserving of the award this year. Wait till he wins the East and I will jump on the Spurrier Bandwagon. I hold the same standard for Shula. Until he can win his division, He will be on the outside looking in.
Djshockley3
12-09-2005, 10:18 PM
Georgia is a great football team and I was on their bandwagon all year. I had them picked for the SEC Championship game. However, Florida and Tennessee stunk it up all year. Auburn, LSU and Bama are heads and tails above Georgia, Florida, South Carolina. Top to bottom, the divisions are probably equal with a slight edge to the East. However, the top 3 teams in the West are much stronger than the top 3 teams from the East. That was my point. South Carolina had a better record because both Tennessee and Florida had horrible years. Same thing goes for Alabama, Tennessee and Florida made us think we were better than we actually were. I was waiting for reality to strike all year and it did in the last 2 games.
Does Spurrier deserve coach of the year for beating Florida and Tennessee? If he does, why doesn't Shula deserve it for beating the same teams and having a better overall record? Face it, South Carolina and Bama both lost to the teams that really matter. SC lost to Georgia and Clemson. Bama lost to LSU and Auburn. If you want to win coach of the year, you need to beat your rivals and win your division. Coach Richt didn't beat Florida, but he won the SEC. Whereas Tommy Tubberville didn't win his division but beat his main rival and had a great season with a brand new backfield (I don't believe Irons ever played a game for SC, thats why he transferred). Both of these coaches are much more deserving than Spurrier. Take a step back, pull off your garnet glasses and look at the big picture. Heck, You could make a case that Les Miles deserved to win it more than Spurrier.
I'm not trying to bash the guy, I think Coach Spurrier is an excellent coach. I just don't think he is deserving of the award this year. Wait till he wins the East and I will jump on the Spurrier Bandwagon. I hold the same standard for Shula. Until he can win his division, He will be on the outside looking in.
Great post, since most gamecocks on here said they would go 7-4 anyway how are u guys so shocked.He had a great year, but he didn't have a Richt or a Tubberville kind of year.Nobody thought Auburn and Georgia would do wat they did.
spiro
12-09-2005, 11:29 PM
I'm confused. I don't know if it should be Croom or Orgeron. On one hand I have Croom. On the other I have Orgeron. Croom.....Orgeron, Orgeron......Croom ? I think I'll go with.............. Tuberville. He is the best coach in the SEC hands down. And one of the best in the country. And as a Ole Miss fan I am proud of what he accomplished in Oxford. And I am happy for him for what he has done at Auburn. Go Tommy.
Spurrierismyhomeboy
12-09-2005, 11:39 PM
Great post, since most gamecocks on here said they would go 7-4 anyway how are u guys so shocked.
Who the hell said we would go 7-4 :confused:
rabidcock
12-10-2005, 06:16 AM
Great post, since most gamecocks on here said they would go 7-4 anyway how are u guys so shocked.He had a great year, but he didn't have a Richt or a Tubberville kind of year.Nobody thought Auburn and Georgia would do wat they did.
'Cuz we're homers, that's why! Seriously, the average concensus was 6-5, and that was BEFORE most of our star players were kicked off the team. Then, pride may have propped up our original claims but privately, in our "inter-Gamecock e-mails", there was much concern of a losing season.
After we went 2-3 (Did you SEE that football "team" at Auburn?) with that ragtag bunch, all of a sudden, we came alive. Part of brilliant (even just plain good) coaching must be the the ability to inject one's personality (through human psychology) into one's players, thereby affecting the essence of the team's spirit. Slowly, methodically, the team seemed to gradually develop a momentum, aided by some timely wins. This began to occur in the middle of the 3rd quarter against Kentucky, gradually building through TN and Vandy, peaking perhaps vs. FL.
Anyway, it seemed that the season turned around through sheer force of will, and I sincerely doubt there is another coach in this conference who would have taken that 2-3 bunch, with the way they appeared at Auburn, to 7-4.
To say you only get Coach of the Year by winning your division or the conference title is LUDICROUS! It should be about the best coaching job, thus the title: Coach of the Year.
No one doubts the abilities of Turbeville or Richt, and they are obviously excellent coaches. But, let's face it, graduation or no, the hosses were there, waiting in the wings to replace players who had moved on; they just finally became seasoned enough to shine and make their presence known. Example: Kenny Irons was there to replace their two running back studs from last year. This is what great recruiting, season after season does for the top powers; it's EXPECTED!
All I am saying is what we accomplished, with all the players we lost and after that abysmal start, when most teams would have folded, a small miracle occurred and, like it or not, that miracle's name is Steve Spurrier! :p
GAMECOCK_FAN
12-10-2005, 08:38 AM
Great post, since most gamecocks on here said they would go 7-4 anyway how are u guys so shocked.He had a great year, but he didn't have a Richt or a Tubberville kind of year.Nobody thought Auburn and Georgia would do wat they did.
I would say many on here thought UGA would be there based on the poll below. Even you picked 10-1 DJ, so I guess UGA didn't meet your expectations during the regular season. ;)
http://www.sectalk.com/boards/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=343
Bottom line.....I believe both Spurrier and Richt are deserving and you could make a great case for either. Before the season began, the so-called experts did not predict either team to finish as high as they did. :)
supergenius
12-10-2005, 08:51 AM
I'm confused. I don't know if it should be Croom or Orgeron. On one hand I have Croom. On the other I have Orgeron. Croom.....Orgeron, Orgeron......Croom ? I think I'll go with.............. Tuberville. He is the best coach in the SEC hands down. And one of the best in the country. And as a Ole Miss fan I am proud of what he accomplished in Oxford. And I am happy for him for what he has done at Auburn. Go Tommy.
Tuberville is not even the best coach on the Aubarn staff. :eek: RTR
HSVTider
12-10-2005, 09:20 AM
Spurrier went 7-4 and 5-3 in conference.
When was the last time a coach that went 5-3 in conference won COTY?
It's never happened.
He won it because he's spurrier. I guarantee you he didn't vote for himself in the SEC Coaches poll or the AFCA poll.
Everyone picked Georgia to finish third in the EAST except me and a few other folks.
Richt is the coach of the year (with Tubberville and Shula on his heals).
JerryBeeds
12-10-2005, 09:22 AM
I think it would have been Shula hands down if y'all didn't end the season the way you did. The o-line cost coach Shula some hardware IMO.
Djshockley3
12-10-2005, 12:49 PM
Who the hell said we would go 7-4 :confused:
http://www.sectalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=2139&page=1&pp=10
Look at this thread.Alot of people were saying USC would go 7-4, Neo said 8-3.Another thing Neo and Geaux were making fub of bama fans saying they would go 9-2.Look what they did, same thing for UGA.
SilverBritches
12-10-2005, 01:21 PM
http://www.sectalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=2139&page=1&pp=10
Wow, it is a lot of fun to go through old threads like that. Some of my favorites:
If Bama goes 9-2 I will eat a live alligator.
I don't see that happening. UGA is losing wayyy to many playmakers on both sides to have results like that. Your opener is against Boise State and they proved this year that they can hang. If your not careful, you could open the SEC with an 0-1 record.
You cannot coach or buy or replace experience.
I'll just talk about the games that y'all think we'll lose.
1. LSU: This team is over-rated. The Tide wins this one in an O.T. thriller.
2. Tenn.: Should have a good team. I think Alabama's defense will win this one while Croyle and the Offense play steady.
3. USC: This team is getting way too much hype for no reason. We'll win this one by no less than ten points.
4. Florida: This is not Urban's year. Alabama will just be too much for the Gators.
He way actually very close to perfect. He called the OT game between LSU and Alabama. He said Alabama's defense would beat Tennessee and they did. He said Bama would beat USC by 10+ which they did. Lastly, he was right about Bama being too much for Urban and the Gators.
Very impressive Nate.
You cannot buy, coach, steal or learn experience. Believe it or not dawg fans, the loss of those guys is going to hurt this squad. You cannot lose playmakers like that and not expect a drop-off.
I'm not asking anyone to eat crow or anything like that. I'm just saying it is interesting to see what everyone said before the season and compare it to what actually happened.
Bulldog Bry
12-10-2005, 04:49 PM
I'm not asking anyone to eat crow or anything like that. I'm just saying it is interesting to see what everyone said before the season and compare it to what actually happened.[/QUOTE]
Just once, I would like for some tool on ESPN to do the same thing. Just once. I would watch a whole show of that.
usafbamafan
12-10-2005, 04:51 PM
Just once, I would like for some tool on ESPN to do the same thing. Just once. I would watch a whole show of that.
That would be hilarious....
I think Holtz and Corso would come out on the short end of that deal. :eek:
SPURED
12-10-2005, 07:04 PM
In My Honest Opinion. i believe Spurrier Should have won this year. he did the Better COACHING job with his players this year. of course Richt ,Tubby and Shula are Great coaches. but they also have had yearS to coach the guys they have, they have more depth than South Carolina has. One of the easiest ways to see how well a coach has done is to look at the progress the team makes over the course of the season. South Carolina, after going 2-3 the first 5 games then went 5-1. the begining of the season our running backs couldnt do anything, our Oline was Horrible and our defence looked like it was made up of just #10. the second half of the season our running backs started to come around some, our Oline became MUCH better than they were in the begining of the season and our defence started to play as a unit instead of depending on KO. although all of these areas still werent Great they were Much Improved from where they started. Which Shows the Job Spurrs and his staff did over the Course of THIS season. and like i said before those other coaches have had yearS to recruit great players to fill in any holes that were left from past seasons. Spurrier didnt have that Luxury THIS year. Actually Spurrs Kicked Most of our Experienced playmakers off of the team and still won 7 games. We finished 2nd in the east while playing the Most First year players of any team in the nation. to me this award seems to be who had the better team not who was the better coach. so no matter who won the award, to me Spurrs did the best coaching of his players THIS year. now just be patient Carolina fans and watch him Fill our team with the talent of the Big Boys. then Spurrs will be awarded the SEC team of the year, i mean the SEC coach of the year!
usafbamafan
12-10-2005, 07:45 PM
In My Honest Opinion. i believe Spurrier Should have won this year. he did the Better COACHING job with his players this year. of course Richt ,Tubby and Shula are Great coaches. but they also have had yearS to coach the guys they have, they have more depth than South Carolina has. One of the easiest ways to see how well a coach has done is to look at the progress the team makes over the course of the season. South Carolina, after going 2-3 the first 5 games then went 5-1. the begining of the season our running backs couldnt do anything, our Oline was Horrible and our defence looked like it was made up of just #10. the second half of the season our running backs started to come around some, our Oline became MUCH better than they were in the begining of the season and our defence started to play as a unit instead of depending on KO. although all of these areas still werent Great they were Much Improved from where they started. Which Shows the Job Spurrs and his staff did over the Course of THIS season. and like i said before those other coaches have had yearS to recruit great players to fill in any holes that were left from past seasons. Spurrier didnt have that Luxury THIS year. Actually Spurrs Kicked Most of our Experienced playmakers off of the team and still won 7 games. We finished 2nd in the east while playing the Most First year players of any team in the nation. to me this award seems to be who had the better team not who was the better coach. so no matter who won the award, to me Spurrs did the best coaching of his players THIS year. now just be patient Carolina fans and watch him Fill our team with the talent of the Big Boys. then Spurrs will be awarded the SEC team of the year, i mean the SEC coach of the year!
I know I should expect it by now but it still makes me laugh. You guys continue to change your story however it fits the point you are trying to make. Before the season started, When explaining why SC would beat the crap out of Bama again, most every SC fan explained how you had many top 25 recruiting years and you were deeper and more talented than Bama.
Now that you are trying to make the point for Coach Spurrier, you say that you had the least talent and the least depth. It's just mind-boggling.
supergenius
12-10-2005, 07:49 PM
I know I should expect it by now but it still makes me laugh. You guys continue to change your story however it fits the point you are trying to make. Before the season started, When explaining why SC would beat the crap out of Bama again, most every SC fan explained how you had many top 25 recruiting years and you were deeper and more talented than Bama.
Now that you are trying to make the point for Coach Spurrier, you say that you had the least talent and the least depth. It's just mind-boggling.
Well said USAF. It is getting deep in here. RTR
SPURED
12-10-2005, 08:13 PM
Before we lost 13 of our Better players for reasons that everyone has heard about by now. us Carolina fans Did believe we had some depth at Key positions. after we lost all of those players we lost alot of depth and Most of us Carolina fans started to Slow our roll a little bit. after all 13 players is a very large Chunk of a teams Depth
as for Spurrier and the Coach of the year. Compared to the teams/Coaches that he was up against we didnt have the depth or the talent they did.
for a team that Most of the Nation thought would finish no higher than 4th in the east Spurrier did a Spectacular Job getting us to 2nd in the east in his first season. and he did it after he kicked 13 players off the team.
Djshockley3
12-10-2005, 08:33 PM
I know I should expect it by now but it still makes me laugh. You guys continue to change your story however it fits the point you are trying to make. Before the season started, When explaining why SC would beat the crap out of Bama again, most every SC fan explained how you had many top 25 recruiting years and you were deeper and more talented than Bama.
Now that you are trying to make the point for Coach Spurrier, you say that you had the least talent and the least depth. It's just mind-boggling.
Really it doesn't matter what happens they will have some kind of comeback.If they would have went 4-7 they would have said well we had players get kicked off the team.Its really funny to me.
rabidcock
12-11-2005, 05:01 PM
I know I should expect it by now but it still makes me laugh. You guys continue to change your story however it fits the point you are trying to make. Before the season started, When explaining why SC would beat the crap out of Bama again, most every SC fan explained how you had many top 25 recruiting years and you were deeper and more talented than Bama.
Now that you are trying to make the point for Coach Spurrier, you say that you had the least talent and the least depth. It's just mind-boggling.
Hey stupid (sorry usafbamafan...I don't really think you are stupid...just not concentrating too well :rolleyes: ), go back and reread the post; that "top 25 recruiting years" comment was made BEFORE all our best players were kicked off the team. Just how many times do you have to hear it before it registers???
Also, we WERE 5-3 in conference play but started 0-3!!!
Jeez!
spiro
12-11-2005, 07:15 PM
Tuberville is not even the best coach on the Aubarn staff. :eek: RTR
Okay, then Tuberville still has a winning record against Alabama. Go Tommy !!!!!
usafbamafan
12-11-2005, 07:41 PM
Hey stupid (sorry usafbamafan...I don't really think you are stupid...just not concentrating too well :rolleyes: ), go back and reread the post; that "top 25 recruiting years" comment was made BEFORE all our best players were kicked off the team. Just how many times do you have to hear it before it registers???
Also, we WERE 5-3 in conference play but started 0-3!!!
Jeez!
I know for a fact the "top 25 recruiting years" comments were made after you lost your starting tailback and others when Spurrier cleaned house. I remember using that as an argument for the reason Bama would win our game this year. I'll look for the thread.....
supergenius
12-12-2005, 12:43 AM
Okay, then Tuberville still has a winning record against Alabama. Go Tommy !!!!!
You have me there but you are one strange dude! :D RTR
rabidcock
12-12-2005, 06:12 AM
Really it doesn't matter what happens they will have some kind of comeback.If they would have went 4-7 they would have said well we had players get kicked off the team.Its really funny to me.
We quite naturally would have said that. Common sense dictates such a reply. We had no way of knowing we would go 7-4 without 13 of our better players. There has to be a REASON for EVERYTHING!
AceLeroy
12-16-2005, 11:54 PM
Easy choice for me.......Spurrier.
Richt did a fine job with his team but he had a lot more horses than SS did.
Someone above mentioned that UGA was picked behind UF and UT , while that may be true , I can't give UGA a lot of credit for finishing ahead of UT. UT sucked , and you don't get credit for finishing ahead of a team that was "supposed " to be good if it turns out that they actually were not good.
UGA winning the SEC wasn't as far fetched as USC having a winning season this year.
Put down the Hatorade and give Visor boy his due.....He did the best coaching job in the SEC this year , just like most years that he has been in the SEC.
Spurrier is just flat out the best coach in the SEC in the last 30 years if not longer.
Spurrierismyhomeboy
12-17-2005, 12:16 AM
Good Post!!!!
WayzUp
12-17-2005, 07:37 AM
Really it doesn't matter what happens they will have some kind of comeback.If they would have went 4-7 they would have said well we had players get kicked off the team.Its really funny to me.
DJ my boy, you're proving our point for us. The fact that we don't have to say "we had players get kicked off the team so that's why we're 4-7" is exactly why Steve Spurrier did the best coaching job in the SEC this year.
SilverBritches
12-17-2005, 10:25 AM
Someone above mentioned that UGA was picked behind UF and UT , while that may be true , I can't give UGA a lot of credit for finishing ahead of UT. UT sucked , and you don't get credit for finishing ahead of a team that was "supposed " to be good if it turns out that they actually were not good.
It's not about finishing ahead of Tennessee. It is about EVERYBODY saying that we lost all of our super stars and could not be competitive in the SEC this year. It is about EVERYBODY (this place especially) claiming DJ Shockley wasn't good enough to carry this Georgia team. It is about EVERYBODY saying our defense couldn't handle losing Pollack, Greene, and Thurman to the NFL.
Mainly, it was about nodody giving us a chance to win an SEC Championship.
Football_Fan
12-18-2005, 02:49 PM
Richt or Tuberville
ALWAYSunderRated_autigers
12-19-2005, 07:15 AM
I would pick steve because of the mess he cleaned up the old Lou Holtz left behind at USC. :cool:
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