The Ogre is a real class act!

[VOLCANIC]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/11/28/bc.fbc.tamperingtussle.ap/index.html

"In the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States, you've got to stoop pretty low to do that. You're lower than dirt," Scelfo said last month in a CBS Sportsline.com story. "I'm not going to tolerate that. There's people in our business that don't belong in our business."


He is nothing more than a looter.

[uscrebel]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/11/28/bc.fbc.tamperingtussle.ap/index.html

"In the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States, you've got to stoop pretty low to do that. You're lower than dirt," Scelfo said last month in a CBS Sportsline.com story. "I'm not going to tolerate that. There's people in our business that don't belong in our business."


He is nothing more than a looter.

Interesting observation that contact between prinicipals is looting. No one contacted a player. One coach, Slocum, who knew another coach, Davis, made a call and then put his boss on the phone. I would assume that the friendship between Slocum and Davis is a bit rocky at this time.

The latest figures from the Chronicle of Higher Education suggest that Tulane is between $400 and $500 million in the red due to Katrina. Best estimates are that 35% and 50% of students will never return and applications are down by a phenomenal 65%. As a private institution, they are "tuition-driven" meaning that over 50% of annual operating expenses are derived solely through tuition on a year-by-year basis. The issue about whether or not the Green Wave Football team will be around next year is moot compared to the question about whether or not Tulane will be able to maintain its academic reputation. As recently as June of 2003, the board of trustees at Tulane considered stepping down to Division 1AA or Division II. The board's decision was a very close vote and is not likely to favor the continued participation of Tulane at Division IA.

The other rumor is that Scelfo has been busy preparing a place for himself and his best athletes at USM. Based on the fact that Jeff Bower has been the only coach to make a public statement, I would think that this rumor is likely true.

Too bad for Scelfo. I understand that there is an OC position open at Ole Miss...

:cool: :cool:

[BeeDee]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/ncaa/11/28/bc.fbc.tamperingtussle.ap/index.html

"In the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States, you've got to stoop pretty low to do that. You're lower than dirt," Scelfo said last month in a CBS Sportsline.com story. "I'm not going to tolerate that. There's people in our business that don't belong in our business."


He is nothing more than a looter.

So, lemme get this straight. Our coach FOLLOWS THE RULES and makes a legitimate and properly directed inquiry, and that makes him "nothing more than a looter"? It's not like he tried to recruit the kids. He simply inquired about the status of the program and expressed his interest in getting in early on recruiting players who may have been displaced if the program folded. Hell, he should be applauded for trying to HELP those kids by giving them an avenue to continue their football careers and educations. He did nothing wrong. The NCAA and the SEC have already investigated and said that there was absolutely NOTHING wrong with what they did.

[Cianne]

Calling a coach to offer players a place to play if the program goes under is bad? Is that really any different from all the financial incentives that other schools offered the purely academic students of Tulane because you know most of those students aren't going to be re-enrolling at Tulane next semester.

[VOLCANIC]

Okay, I understand your all's take on the matter. But notice this excerpt:

The program in question was confirmed later to be Ole Miss by athletic director Pete Boone. Green Wave assistant Greg Davis Jr. said the Rebels' head coach contacted him about luring some of Tulane's players to Oxford if the school eliminated the team.

If Eddie was trying to look out for the best interests of the students and not trying to steal away their best players, then why didn't he contact the Head Coach and not an assistant?
Or why did he not wait until the season is over, or at least until the flood waters had receded?
Something just doesn't seem right.....

[Cianne]

He contacted someone he personally knew and "luring" is all about perspective. Nobody knows what was said, but if he was making a concerted effort to lure players, even through proper channels, then the SEC and the NCAA would probably have taken a longer look at it don't you think. Or, he might be using such terminology per Scelfo's request to make things look worse for Ole Miss to shift blame off his own terrible season.

[RW13]

I read an article on Yahoo! yesterday about Tulane students who ended up at Harvard and Berkely and UVA and that they don't want to return, Tulane made the schools sign an agreement so they are kinda bound to not let the students enroll in the spring (they have to apply for the fall), but student bodies are protesting and asking the administration's to ignore this and let the katrina students go to school where they want, New Orleans may never recover....

[VOLCANIC]

Or, he might be using such terminology per Scelfo's request to make things look worse for Ole Miss to shift blame off his own terrible season.

Can you really blame him for having a terrible season? Eleven games in eleven different stadiums? SoCal would even have a bad season playing all away games.

[uscrebel]

I read an article on Yahoo! yesterday about Tulane students who ended up at Harvard and Berkely and UVA and that they don't want to return, Tulane made the schools sign an agreement so they are kinda bound to not let the students enroll in the spring (they have to apply for the fall), but student bodies are protesting and asking the administration's to ignore this and let the katrina students go to school where they want, New Orleans may never recover....

Yep. We have quite a few out here as well. There is significant discussion about what to do. Many students were accepted at several places, including Tulane. We have a friend whose daughter barely made it to NO and never attended classes before the big blow. She has since settled into a school in the Bay Area that was her second choice. She has made friends, gotten to know faculty, and now wants to major in a field that Tulane did not have. The school is being coy, but has allowed her to register for the spring semester and one of her professors has already written a letter suggesting it would not be her interests to transfer. I know the father and he WILL sue...he also WILL win.

To Volcanic: As to CEO's contact with an assistant rather than the head man. It is standard practice in the business world to work through existing relationships. I would assume that part of the problem had to do with the fact that CEO only asked the courtesy of head's up if the program folded. If he had offered the guy a job (unethical), we would not be hearing about this now.

So, my reading was and continues to be that Ole Miss did the right thing to contact the coach, not the players, and let them know that we were willing to evaluate their guys for our squad. I will expect an apology to the Rebel Nation when Scelfo and his boys end up in Hattiesburg.

On another note, RW. I changed my signature and avatar to honor you and your Gamecocks great season.

[BeeDee]

Okay, I understand your all's take on the matter. But notice this excerpt:

The program in question was confirmed later to be Ole Miss by athletic director Pete Boone. Green Wave assistant Greg Davis Jr. said the Rebels' head coach contacted him about luring some of Tulane's players to Oxford if the school eliminated the team.

If Eddie was trying to look out for the best interests of the students and not trying to steal away their best players, then why didn't he contact the Head Coach and not an assistant?
Or why did he not wait until the season is over, or at least until the flood waters had receded?
Something just doesn't seem right.....

Because Shawn Slocum, one of our assistants, is (probably WAS at this point) friends with Davis. It was a call from one friend to another with an interested third party involved. I'm sure that if Coach O had had a relationship with Coach Scelfo, that he'd have called him. He used the connection that he had. He went through the PROPER CHANNELS. Those that have a problem with this are simply grasping at straws and searching for something to bitch about.

[RW13]

Thanks Reb, all in all in was a great season, and the Ramones started it all (not our season but musically, obviously)......, still a big fan of the clash, but there is nothing like 3 chord, underproduced, american angst....

[Djshockley3]

I do not agree with Orgeron,but a UT fan saying a coach has no class is a joke. Look at the coaches and players you have.

[BeeDee]

I do not agree with Orgeron,but a UT fan saying a coach has no class is a joke. Look at the coaches and players you have.

What's to agree with? He simply called and said, "Hey, if your program goes under, keep us in mind. We could use some quality players and it'd give your kids a chance to stay in school." WTF is wrong with that? He didn't contact any player directly. He went to school officials. He did it in the open and with no secrecy and hasn't tried to hide it one bit. WTF is there not to agree with?

[Rebeldrummer]

What's to agree with? He simply called and said, "Hey, if your program goes under, keep us in mind. We could use some quality players and it'd give your kids a chance to stay in school." WTF is wrong with that? He didn't contact any player directly. He went to school officials. He did it in the open and with no secrecy and hasn't tried to hide it one bit. WTF is there not to agree with?


just another opening to take shots at Ole Miss .. Media open the door and the sheep follow right along