USC/Arkansas - Discussion

[Neo]

Personally,

With Arkansas in the shape they're in and the fact that they're starting a TRUE freshman QB, look for the hogs to get.....

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:D SMOKED! :D

[jneesy]

its nice to see the cock fans on here getting some pride back

by the way i think y'all will smoke the hogs too

[Cianne]

You can put a JV QB out there to hand the ball off. That's all Johnson had to do, that's all Mortensen had to do, and that's all Dick is going to have to do.

[GeauxTo]

Yep, I agree. After that win over Tennessee, Darth Visor is feeling the feeling again, and he smells blood here. He'll devise a way to stop McFadden, thus the Hawgs offense. Then he'll put on a dazzling air show. Look for the Cocks to score some points in this one.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Personally,

With Arkansas in the shape they're in and the fact that they're starting a TRUE freshman QB, look for the hogs to get.....

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:D SMOKED! :D
I hope you're right. I picked SC to win this game, but I don't have a "warm and fuzzy" feeling about it. I think if we can keep McFadden and Arkansas' running game in check (and I don't mean completely shut it down, but just make them have to throw the ball around some), that we'll pull it out. After the Tennessee game, I have a better feeling that our rushing defense may come through. I believe we'll put the points on the board (and just hoping we can limit the points Arkansas' scores).

[woo_pig_sooie]

One of the reasons the Hogs were able to hang with georgia was the way they controlled the clock. I think Mcfadden is going to run all over carolina and keep their offense off the field. Also, our defense is getting better each week, so I think we'll be alright in that category as long as we limit our penalties.

[Neo]

One of the reasons the Hogs were able to hang with georgia was the way they controlled the clock.


As you have forgotten, so did USC. The only exception is that USC ALMOST beat Georgia. We didn't just hang with them. :cool:

You can only run McFadden so much. Nix will probably stack the box and dare that "Freshmeat" to beat us through the air. Good luck with that too, considering that USC has a very strong secondary. :cool:

USC 21
Arkansas 7


Expect to see Mitchell throw for roughly 300+ yards. :D

[Neo]

You can put a JV QB out there to hand the ball off. That's all Johnson had to do, that's all Mortensen had to do, and that's all Dick is going to have to do.


Where has it gotten them though? :cool: A 2-5 record and 5th place in the SEC West. :cool:

[RW13]

I'm not so cocky but I do think we find a way to win if we have some healthy WR's..., expect AK to rush for around 225 or so but to only score around 15, the QB will throw 2 picks and we pick up 1 fumble, not to mention we hold a couple of their drives to field goals, I do expect McFadden or some no-name person to break a long TD on us, but I expect us to score 3 TD's threw the air, and kick a FG, and maybe sprinkle in a def TD.......Gamecocks 27 or 30-----Razorbacks 14 or 17

[Jay_Lupo]

As you have forgotten, so did USC. The only exception is that USC ALMOST beat Georgia. We didn't just hang with them. :cool:

You can only run McFadden so much. Nix will probably stack the box and dare that "Freshmeat" to beat us through the air. Good luck with that too, considering that USC has a very strong secondary. :cool:

USC 21
Arkansas 7


Expect to see Mitchell throw for roughly 300+ yards. :D


I tried to be respectful and give Carolina credit this week, but you've driven me over the edge Neo. Arkansas didn't almost beat Georgia? We were trailing by 3 with under 3 minutes left with the ball. We mount a scoring drive on that possession, we win. I think that's almost beating them. Ask Georgia fans which one was tougher. Better yet, ask the Georgia players. What about Auburn and Alabama? We hung with them too. You guys got a mud-hole stomped in your ass in those games and were completely out of those games after 1 quarter. If USC had Arkansas' schedule, they'd be 3-4 (1-3) right now and no Gamecock fan could possibly argue that. So let's not even try and go there, OK.

I'm going to refrain from talking too much sh*t, b/c I know I'll have my chance, oh, about 2:00 this Saturday. But how can you expect the mighty Gamecock defense to hold Arkansas to 7 when USC, Georgia, Alabama and Auburn couldn't?

And I dare South Carolina to stack the box. Georgia did. Ask them how much it slowed the run down. Auburn did. Ask them. Alabama did. Ask them, etc... I know we lost these games, but those are ALL elite teams that are capable of winning their respective divisions and outside of the second half against Auburn, we were toe-to-toe with these teams the entire 60 minutes, with opportunities against Bama and UGA on the road to score and win in the final 5 minutes.

I mean, how hilarious is it that we're sitting at 2-5, the Cocks at 5-3, and the Vegas boys have made us the favorite, by 5 points! That is priceless right there :) If we just wouldn't have collapsed in the 4Q against VAndy, we'd probably be 8-10 point favs. That should tell you what people think about SC.

Here's to ruining your so-called "showdown" with Florida the next week.

P.S. It doesn't matter if I'm the starting QB Saturday, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis and De'arrius Howard are gonna run, well, HAWG WILD in Fayetteville for far more than 225 yards. We average 256. I think we'll, at worst, get our average.

[woo_pig_sooie]

As you have forgotten, so did USC. The only exception is that USC ALMOST beat Georgia. We didn't just hang with them. :cool:

You can only run McFadden so much. Nix will probably stack the box and dare that "Freshmeat" to beat us through the air. Good luck with that too, considering that USC has a very strong secondary. :cool:

USC 21
Arkansas 7


Expect to see Mitchell throw for roughly 300+ yards. :D

Every defense has stacked the box against this year and we still run all over them. What makes you think that carolina is going to figure out what the best defenses in the nation couldn't? If Mcfadden does get tired we'll just bring in felix jones who is averaging only 7 yds per carry.

You guys beat a very average tennessee team and go running off your mouth like carolina is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Give me a break.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

You guys beat a very average tennessee team and go running off your mouth like carolina is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Give me a break.

And you guys are 2-5, and what are you doing with your mouth? Give US a break. :rolleyes:

[uscrebel]

USC 70
ARK 17
:cool:

[woo_pig_sooie]

And you guys are 2-5, and what are you doing with your mouth? Give US a break. :rolleyes:

I'm not the one claiming we're going to kick the crap out of the opposing team. I stated the Hogs will run all over you guys, just like we've done against everyone else.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I'm not the one claiming we're going to kick the crap out of the opposing team. I stated the Hogs will run all over you guys, just like we've done against everyone else.
And there's a difference? OK. :rolleyes:

[Jay_Lupo]

And there's a difference? OK. :rolleyes:

Yeah, there's a difference. Arkansas has run all over teams ranked in the top 20 nationally against the run. Now we get to face a team ranked near the bottom of the conference. Regardless of what happens, the Arkansas running game should put up its best numbers since the season-opener.

[woo_pig_sooie]

And there's a difference? OK. :rolleyes:

There's a difference when you can back up what your talking about with facts. Saying that the Hogs are going to run all over you is justified since we are leading the SEC in rushing and your rush defense is at the bottom of the SEC.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Yeah, there's a difference. Arkansas has run all over teams ranked in the top 20 nationally against the run. Now we get to face a team ranked near the bottom of the conference. Regardless of what happens, the Arkansas running game should put up its best numbers since the season-opener.
No, he indicates that since we beat Tennessee, we're running our mouths like we're the best thing since sliced bread. That's BS. For the most part, we've been pretty gracious winners (which has been acknowledged by several UT fans on here).

As far as the SC/Arkansas game, almost every Arkansas fan on here has picked Arkansas, and almost every SC fan has picked SC (see your own posts, Jay). You Arkansas fans are expecting McFadden and your other backs to put up big numbers on the ground. That's all well and good, and I wouldn't have it any other way. However, we're expecting Blake and our receivers to light up your secondary. If he (and you) consider that running our mouths, then someone needs to go look in the mirror. :rolleyes:

[JBryant12]

I think its gonna be a tough game...Arkansas always seem to giv us fits especially when we play in Fayetville...i say 31-24 USC wins

[RW13]

Yeah, there's a difference. Arkansas has run all over teams ranked in the top 20 nationally against the run. Now we get to face a team ranked near the bottom of the conference. Regardless of what happens, the Arkansas running game should put up its best numbers since the season-opener.

Check out my post on page 1, I predicted Ark to run all over us but for us to still win.....

[OmahaBound]

There's a difference when you can back up what your talking about with facts. Saying that the Hogs are going to run all over you is justified since we are leading the SEC in rushing and your rush defense is at the bottom of the SEC.

there are many differences in this whole discussion. for one, arkansas running all over us doesn't mean you're going to win. i personally agree with you that you guys will at least come close to your avg. rushing yards this saturday if not exceed it. i also believe that the majority of those yards will come outside the redzone and that we will slow you down at that point, just like the tennessee game.

there's also a difference because we have changed our defensive scheme, and we've changed a few of our starters since earlier in the year....so the stats don't guarantee anything.

i'll predict arkansas has 270 yds rushing, and the final score will be
USC: 31 - Arkansas: 24, with the Hogs having 3 rushing TDs

[jbuzbee]

I like the post someone made about a "no name" breaking a long run....What "no name" running backs does Arkansas have? Darren McFadden...one of the best freshmen in the nation not to mention the SEC. Felix Jones....another top SEC freshman who was 2nd in the league in total yards going into the game with Georgia. Peyton Hillis....one of top fullbacks in the nation and a great pass catcher out of the backfield. DeArrius Howard a senior that has never fumbled. Yeah....thats a lot of "no names".

And Neo....did you say we didn't almost beat Georgia? I hate to argue about "almosts" cause this ain't hand-grenades or horse-shoes...but you brought it up. We lost by three and had the ball at the end of the game. Nuff said.

Our defense has been playing better each week....and we've actually had to play some talented offenses (aka not Tenn). We have the #1 toughest schedule in the Country and a young team = a tough season. We lack talent at the QB position and experience on Defense....USC has little talent on defense aside from Simpson and even less talent at RB and WR. I think your assumptions that USC can chalk up a win here is baseless. Ya'll took our bowl game away after a BS call on a fumble (you know it was a fumble don't even argue it) last year....now we're gonna do it to you.

USC has no chance to stop the run. We'll be hyped up with a new QB and I say McFadden and Jones get two TDs apiece....again. USC can't stop our run...no chance. Bama, Auburn, and Georgia couldn't stop it....and they actually have good defenses.

[Jay_Lupo]

No, he indicates that since we beat Tennessee, we're running our mouths like we're the best thing since sliced bread. That's BS. For the most part, we've been pretty gracious winners (which has been acknowledged by several UT fans on here).

As far as the SC/Arkansas game, almost every Arkansas fan on here has picked Arkansas, and almost every SC fan has picked SC (see your own posts, Jay). You Arkansas fans are expecting McFadden and your other backs to put up big numbers on the ground. We're expecting Blake and our receivers to light up your secondary. If he (and you) consider that running our mouths, then someone needs to go look in the mirror. :rolleyes:


I have been overly gracious - on purpose - with my posts regarding South Carolina this week b/c of the number of Cocks on this board. I predicted the Hogs to win, and I'm very, very confident they will. But I didn't start a thread saying how we're going to smoke South Carolina. You guys are the ones talking sh*t, like the guy who predicted a 53-10 win, or the guy that said McFadden was simply "hype or a product of the system" etc. We're simply responding to the talk. But I'm pretty much done. You guys know what I think now, and if you don't, I think the Cocky Cocks are in for a severe letdown in Fayetteville this weekend.

[jbuzbee]

We may be one dimensional....but so is USC. We can't pass. They can't run.

[Neo]

I tried to be respectful and give Carolina credit this week, but you've driven me over the edge Neo.


Really? I'm flattered.... :D



Arkansas didn't almost beat Georgia? We were trailing by 3 with under 3 minutes left with the ball. We mount a scoring drive on that possession, we win. I think that's almost beating them.


Well, since you wanna be technical, USC lost to UGA by 2 points. Arky lost by 3 points. USC (17-15) Ark (23-20) See.... UGA scored more points on Arky than USC.




Ask Georgia fans which one was tougher. Better yet, ask the Georgia players.


That's an impossibility. We cannot possibly ask EVERY UGA fan nor every single player. Shockley went 8-for-17 for 112 yards 2 INTS against USC. Against Arkansas, he went 6-for-10 for 74 yards and 1 TD.




What about Auburn and Alabama? We hung with them too. You guys got a mud-hole stomped in your ass in those games and were completely out of those games after 1 quarter. If USC had Arkansas' schedule, they'd be 3-4 (1-3) right now and no Gamecock fan could possibly argue that. So let's not even try and go there, OK.



Yes Auburn and Alabama whooped our collective a$$es, but what about Vanderbilt? We beat our patsies. On the other hand, didn't yall get your a$$es cut by Southern Cal? See everyone gets a butt whoopin from time to time.

The part about scheduling is laughable at best and you know it. Let's look at the schedules shall we....

Arkansas
Missouri St.
Vanderbilt
Southern Cal
Alabama
ULM
Auburn
Georgia
USC
Ole Miss
MSU
LSU

USC
UCF
Georgia
Alabama
Troy
Auburn
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Arkansas
Florida
Clemson

No where is the big difference in schedules? :rolleyes:



I'm going to refrain from talking too much sh*t, b/c I know I'll have my chance, oh, about 2:00 this Saturday. But how can you expect the mighty Gamecock defense to hold Arkansas to 7 when USC, Georgia, Alabama and Auburn couldn't?


You shouldn't when you don't have anything to back it up. The fact is, Arky is 2-5 on the year and is in 5th place in the SEC West. If anything, Arky fans need to learn some humility. Just because we couldn't hold Alabama and Auburn to single digits, doesn't mean squat compared to Arkansas. You cannot compare what one team does to another to *prop* up your argument. That's aside from the fact that Arky will be starting a TRUE freshman QB this week against USC. I think Spurrier and Nix will smell blood and go after that kid.




I know we lost these games, but those are ALL elite teams that are capable of winning their respective divisions


And our losses weren't? :rolleyes: Take off those ridiculous glasses chief. They're affecting your brain now....

USC's losses: UGA, Alabama, Auburn.




I mean, how hilarious is it that we're sitting at 2-5, the Cocks at 5-3, and the Vegas boys have made us the favorite, by 5 points! That is priceless right there :) If we just wouldn't have collapsed in the 4Q against VAndy, we'd probably be 8-10 point favs. That should tell you what people think about SC.



There's nothing illegal about stupidity. Let em' keep betting against us. We seem to play better that way. I seem to remember you talking a little less smack last year when USC WR Troy Williamson single handedly won the game for us last year. What are the Hogs going to do to prepare for Sidney Rice? The best WR in the SEC hands down. :rolleyes:




Here's to ruining your so-called "showdown" with Florida the next week.



You wish. Spurrier and company has a "Nut" that Nutt can't crack. :D





P.S. It doesn't matter if I'm the starting QB Saturday, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis and De'arrius Howard are gonna run, well, HAWG WILD in Fayetteville for far more than 225 yards. We average 256. I think we'll, at worst, get our average.




Sure...... :rolleyes:

[jneesy]

USC 70
ARK 17
:cool:


wrong usc :D

[JBryant12]

ummm...maybe its just me but if you took a poll of regular CFB fans how many do you think would be able to name all 4 of those RBs??? i know Mcfadden and i have heard a little about felix jones...and i consider myself an educated SEC fan....so in my oh so humble opinion you have some no names on your team...

No talent at WR? puhlease ever heard of Sydney Rice...you know that guy that has caught all those TD passes...one of the best WRs in the SEC?hmmm...

[Neo]

wrong usc :D



He's just making a point....

The Arky fans here wanna talk about our a$$whipping against Alabama, but they fail to acknowledge their a$$whipping against Southern Cal. :cool:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I have been overly gracious - on purpose - with my posts regarding South Carolina this week b/c of the number of Cocks on this board. I predicted the Hogs to win, and I'm very, very confident they will. But I didn't start a thread saying how we're going to smoke South Carolina. You guys are the ones talking sh*t, like the guy who predicted a 53-10 win, or the guy that said McFadden was simply "hype or a product of the system" etc. We're simply responding to the talk. But I'm pretty much done. You guys know what I think now, and if you don't, I think the Cocky Cocks are in for a severe letdown in Fayetteville this weekend.
Personally, I am thrilled that you have been overly gracious, on purpose. However, when you are 2-5 (no matter how good you think you may be, or who you've played), I'm not sure there is any other way you should be. :D

[Jay_Lupo]

Neo man, you're simply too much for me as most of you gamecocks are. I can't waste my day talking sh*t with you. As I said earlier I'm done. But I am curious, what do you think USC's record would be IF they had Arkansas' schedule. That's a direct question, and I'd like a direct answer. Nothing more, nothing less.

[jbuzbee]

There's nothing illegal about stupidity. Let em' keep betting against us. We seem to play better that way. I seem to remember you talking a little less smack last year when USC WR Troy Williamson single handedly won the game for us last year. What are the Hogs going to do to prepare for Sidney Rice? The best WR in the SEC hands down. :rolleyes:
Sure...... :rolleyes:

Best WR in the SEC hands down? You gotta be kidding me. I think I like Skyler Green, Obomanu, Aramashoudu--whatever, Dallas Baker, Prothro....or any other LSU or Bama or Auburn receiver. Even the Vandy WR is better.

[Neo]

USC has little talent on defense aside from Simpson and even less talent at RB and WR.



This has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read since joining this site. :rolleyes: :cool:

[jbuzbee]

Rice is as much a product of USC's system as McFadden is of ours. And if you haven't heard of Peyton Hillis then I don't see how you can call yourself a educated SEC fan.

[JBryant12]

So you are saying that you can name 4 RBs on every SEC team??? even one with say a losing record that you haven't seen play on TV for a year...

[Neo]

Best WR in the SEC hands down? You gotta be kidding me. I think I like Skyler Green, Obomanu, Aramashoudu--whatever, Dallas Baker, Prothro....or any other LSU or Bama or Auburn receiver. Even the Vandy WR is better.



Apparently the SEC disagrees with your opinion... :cool: :rolleyes: Per www.secsports.com,


RECEPTIONS/GAME Team Cl G Rec Yds TD Long Avg/C Rec/G
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. Chad Jackson........ UF JR 8 54 580 6 80 10.7 6.75
2. Sidney Rice........ SC FR 7 42 667 11 45 15.9 6.00
3. Earl Bennett........ VU FR 8 46 535 1 41 11.6 5.75
4. Erik Davis.......... VU SR 8 38 492 2 40 12.9 4.75
5. Mario Hill.......... UM SR 6 28 455 2 38 16.2 4.67
6. D. Baker............ UF SR 8 37 480 2 42 13.0 4.62
Mike Espy........... UM SR 8 37 382 3 41 10.3 4.62
8. DJ Hall............. UA SO 8 34 537 4 56 15.8 4.25
9. Syvelle Newton...... SC JR 7 27 297 2 35 11.0 3.86
10.Peyton Hillis....... AR SO 7 25 248 1 29 9.9 3.57

RECEIVE YDS/GAME Team Cl G Rec Yds TD Long Avg/C Yds/G
----------------------------------------------------------------
1. Sidney Rice........ SC FR 7 42 667 11 45 15.9 95.3
2. Mario Hill.......... UM SR 6 28 455 2 38 16.2 75.8
3. Chad Jackson........ UF JR 8 54 580 6 80 10.7 72.5
4. DJ Hall............. UA SO 8 34 537 4 56 15.8 67.1
5. Earl Bennett........ VU FR 8 46 535 1 41 11.6 66.9
6. Dwayne Bowe......... LS JR 6 19 374 6 44 19.7 62.3
7. Erik Davis.......... VU SR 8 38 492 2 40 12.9 61.5
8. D. Baker............ UF SR 8 37 480 2 42 13.0 60.0
9. Keith Brown......... UA SO 7 21 386 3 65 18.4 55.1
10.Taye Biddle......... UM SR 8 28 414 0 33 14.8 51.8

SCORING Team Cl G TD XPT FG 2XP Pts Pts/G
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Brandon Coutu....... UG SO 8 0 25 17 0 76 9.5
2. Sidney Rice........ SC FR 7 11 0 0 0 66 9.4
3. John Vaughn......... AU JR 8 0 34 10 0 64 8.0
4. D. Wynn............. UF JR 7 9 0 0 0 54 7.7
5. Jamie Christensen... UA SO 7 0 20 10 0 50 7.1
6. Brad Lester......... AU FR 6 7 0 0 0 42 7.0
7. Darren McFadden..... AR FR 7 8 0 0 0 48 6.9
8. B. Hahnfeldt........ VU FR 8 0 19 11 0 52 6.5
9. Chris Balseiro...... AR SR 7 0 21 8 0 45 6.4
10.Joseph Addai........ LS SR 7 7 0 0 0 42 6.0

SCORING (TDs) Team Cl G TD Rush Pass Ret PAT Pts Pts/G
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Sidney Rice........ SC FR 7 11 0 11 0 0 66 9.4
2. D. Wynn............. UF JR 7 9 7 2 0 0 54 7.7
3. Brad Lester......... AU FR 6 7 5 1 1 0 42 7.0
4. Darren McFadden..... AR FR 7 8 8 0 0 0 48 6.9
5. Dwayne Bowe......... LS JR 6 6 0 6 0 0 36 6.0
Joseph Addai........ LS SR 7 7 7 0 0 0 42 6.0
7. Kenny Irons......... AU JR 8 7 7 0 0 0 42 5.2
Chad Jackson........ UF JR 8 7 1 6 0 0 42 5.2
Jeff Jennings....... VU SO 8 7 6 1 0 0 42 5.2
10.Tim Castille........ UA JR 8 6 6 0 0 0 36 4.5



Just hush before you make yourself look even more like a...

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[jbuzbee]

I think most people would agree (except when they don't back up their own position) that statistics are one of the best predictors of how a game will go....thats why we have them.

Arkansas is 4th in the SEC in scoring offenses. South Carolina is 7th.

Arkansas is 1st in the SEC in rushing. South Carolina is last. (both teams suck in rushing defense...11 and 10 respectively)

Arkansas is 5th in total offense.....USC is 8th.

Arkansas is 9th in third down conversions....USC is 10th.

South Carolina has allowed 54 third down conversions....Arkansas has allowed 35.

South carolina has allowed 21 sacks....Arkansas 11 (2nd in SEC).

South Carolina is 3rd in passing offense and Arkansas is last. (duh) and Arkansas is 10th in passing defense. Statistically I think the facts show that Arkansas deserves the 5 point advantage the odds-makers have given them. You can't pass the ball when you don't have it....look for Arkansas to hold the ball most of the game.

[JBryant12]

I agree Arkansas deserves the 5 point advantage the odds-makers are giving them...doesnt mean i think it will turn out that way...like i have said before look for a close game but i believe USC will come out on top...

[jbuzbee]

So you are saying that you can name 4 RBs on every SEC team??? even one with say a losing record that you haven't seen play on TV for a year...


No...but I do believe I could name a RB that is 4 in the SEC in rushing yards (McFadden). A RB that is 2nd in the SEC in all-purpose yards (Jones). A RB that among the top 10 in the SEC in receptions (Hillis)....and a guy that you should know cause he's been in the SEC for 4 years and rushed for a lot of yards against USC last year (Howard).

I can name USC's RB's and they aren't even any good: Daccus Turman, Mike Davis, Newton.....I can also name the GOOD RB's that aren't on ya'lls team anymore....Summers and Boyd. Thanks for playin.

[Neo]

Neo man, you're simply too much for me as most of you gamecocks are. I can't waste my day talking sh*t with you. As I said earlier I'm done. But I am curious, what do you think USC's record would be IF they had Arkansas' schedule. That's a direct question, and I'd like a direct answer. Nothing more, nothing less.



Too much? :confused: Why? Because we're the better team this year? That my friend comes across as sour grapes. As for the schedule....

Arkansas
Missouri St. - W
Vanderbilt - W
Southern Cal - L
Alabama - L
ULM - W
Auburn - L
Georgia - L
USC (Since we're using the Arky model, I'm going to put UT in place of USC) - W
Ole Miss - W
MSU - W
LSU - L


Total: 6-5

[jbuzbee]

I agree Arkansas deserves the 5 point advantage the odds-makers are giving them...doesnt mean i think it will turn out that way...like i have said before look for a close game but i believe USC will come out on top...

Well I was showing this for the people that are predicting a huge victory for USC...I can agree that it will be close and could go either way....but I won't concede that to the people that think USC is gonna pummel the hogs...ain't gonna happen. UScal ya'll are not.

[jbuzbee]

Too much? :confused: Why? Because we're the better team this year? That my friend comes across as sour grapes. As for the schedule....

Arkansas
Missouri St. - W
Vanderbilt - W
Southern Cal - L
Alabama - L
ULM - W
Auburn - L
Georgia - L
USC (Since we're using the Arky model, I'm going to put UT in place of USC) - W
Ole Miss - W
MSU - W
LSU - L


Total: 6-5

So....basically the same as our has actually gone with the exception of the Vandy game. I don't think that highlights your point very well. I think we can all admit that UT was highly overrated.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I think most people would agree (except when they don't back up their own position) that statistics are one of the best predictors of how a game will go....thats why we have them.

Arkansas is 4th in the SEC in scoring offenses. South Carolina is 7th.

Arkansas is 1st in the SEC in rushing. South Carolina is last. (both teams suck in rushing defense...11 and 10 respectively)

Arkansas is 5th in total offense.....USC is 8th.

Arkansas is 9th in third down conversions....USC is 10th.

South Carolina has allowed 54 third down conversions....Arkansas has allowed 35.

South carolina has allowed 21 sacks....Arkansas 11 (2nd in SEC).

South Carolina is 3rd in passing offense and Arkansas is last. (duh) and Arkansas is 10th in passing defense. Statistically I think the facts show that Arkansas deserves the 5 point advantage the odds-makers have given them. You can't pass the ball when you don't have it....look for Arkansas to hold the ball most of the game.
You have been very selective in the stats you provided for us to consider. However, you left out one VERY important stat......team record. SC is 5 and 3, Arkansas is 2 and 5. At this point in the season, to me, that is the most important stat of them all.:cool:

And, on a side note, I am not one of those expecting us to pummel the Hogs. As my very first post in this thread stated, I don't have a "warm and fuzzy" feeling about the outcome of this game, although I did predict us to win.

[JBryant12]

Yeah but USC has gotten a helluva lot more coverage that Arkansas...and i said i knew Mcfadden and Jones...but i sure as hell dont know 4 RBs for a losing team...can you name Vandys 4 RBs??? no prolly not and they beat you...i can gurantee you that if Arkansas would win some more games i would know their RBs....

[Neo]

So....basically the same as our has actually gone with the exception of the Vandy game. I don't think that highlights your point very well. I think we can all admit that UT was highly overrated.


Why doesn't it? :confused: WE BEAT VANDERBILT!! :rolleyes:


You just don't like it because if doesn't reflect what you want to see. Jay asked for my honest opinion and I gave it to him. :cool:

[Neo]

<<SINGING>>


My bacon has a first name.....

It's S-T-E-V-E!

My bacon has a last name......

It's S-P-U-R-R-I-E-R! :D

[TidePride]

I think the records are misleading, The Arkansas team that got beat into small pieces by USC (the other USC) is not the same team that faced Georgia two weeks ago. Same goes for South Carolina and I am not ashamed to admit that as a Tide fan I am glad we played both teams when we did, If we had played them later in the season the outcome could have been quite a bit different.

This game is going to come down to defense and in that respect I think Arkansas has the edge.

[WooHawg]

Neo man, you're simply too much for me as most of you gamecocks are. I can't waste my day talking sh*t with you. As I said earlier I'm done. But I am curious, what do you think USC's record would be IF they had Arkansas' schedule. That's a direct question, and I'd like a direct answer. Nothing more, nothing less.

I agree Jay, it would probaby be a waste of time. :)

[Cianne]

Where has it gotten them though? :cool: A 2-5 record and 5th place in the SEC West. :cool:

Oh I didn't say it got them anywhere. I was just pointing out that the freshman QB really isn't that big a deal. All he's going to do is handoff anyway.

[greggspacho]

I have been saying for a few weeks now that this weekend game against Ark. will be a nice measuring stick for the cocks. Ark. tends to own SC (not just football but basketball and baseball as well) when they are at home. The cocks have only beat Ark. one time down there since joining the conference and have never beaten them in Fayetteville.

With that said we had never beaten Tenn. @ home either but now we have Spurrier and he has. With respect to our record I would not discount our win against Tenn., they did beat LSU who is probably the best team in the conference. (I am not saying b/c we beat Tenn. we could beat LSU b/c we definitely could not.) If a few plays had gone differently Tenn. could easily be 5-2 right now.

Y’all did almost beat Georgia but I think Shockley going down had something to do with that. I don’t know who ranked Ark. with the toughest schedule in the country but comparing the two I find them very comparable to each other.

However I do think that the Gamecocks will win sat. in a very close game. Either way this game will be a precursor for another great day in SEC football.

[Jay_Lupo]

Too much? :confused: Why? Because we're the better team this year? That my friend comes across as sour grapes. As for the schedule....

Arkansas
Missouri St. - W
Vanderbilt - W
Southern Cal - L
Alabama - L
ULM - W
Auburn - L
Georgia - L
USC (Since we're using the Arky model, I'm going to put UT in place of USC) - W
Ole Miss - W
MSU - W
LSU - L
Total: 6-5


First off, thanks for the honest response Neo. I appreciate that. I don't appreciate your little song, but that's OK.

Basically though, what you're saying here, is that you'd be 3-4 (1-3) coming into the Arkansas game. Now you feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, there's not a whole hell of a lot of difference b/t 3-4 and 2-5. The difference, of course, is Vanderbilt. And if that's the difference, then I feel good about it. We dominated the 'Dores through 3 quarters but just failed to show up in any phase in the fourth, and Vandy still needed 15 minutes and every single possible break to win. Plus, as they season's shaped up, we were without our best player in that game. But as I've said many times, the bottom line is they did win. But to me, there's not much of a difference b/t Arkansas and Carolina. The ONLY difference is the Vandy game.

I just think this is going to be a much, much tougher test than the Gamecocks - some of them - think it will be. For example, I don't think there's any way SC wins by 2 touchdowns. I think Spurrier and Co. will be thanking their lucky stars for a W, any way they can get it. But hey, that's just me.

I do agree 100 % with the last post that said this is a measuring stick, b/c it is. If the Cocks can beat physical teams like UT and UA in consecutive weeks on the road, then I'll throw them up there in the top 6. If they can't, then I won't. I am now, hopefully, done with this topic until saturday. Go Hogs!

[uscrebel]

First off, thanks for the honest response Neo. I appreciate that. I don't appreciate your little song, but that's OK.

Basically though, what you're saying here, is that you'd be 3-4 (1-3) coming into the Arkansas game. Now you feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, there's not a whole hell of a lot of difference b/t 3-4 and 2-5. The difference, of course, is Vanderbilt. And if that's the difference, then I feel good about it. We dominated the 'Dores through 3 quarters but just failed to show up in any phase in the fourth, and Vandy still needed 15 minutes and every single possible break to win. Plus, as they season's shaped up, we were without our best player in that game. But as I've said many times, the bottom line is they did win. But to me, there's not much of a difference b/t Arkansas and Carolina. The ONLY difference is the Vandy game.

I just think this is going to be a much, much tougher test than the Gamecocks - some of them - think it will be. For example, I don't think there's any way SC wins by 2 touchdowns. But hey, that's just me.

I do agree 100 % with the last post that said this is a measuring stick, b/c it is. If the Cocks can beat physical teams like UT and UA in consecutive weeks on the road, then I'll throw them up there in the top 6. If they can't, then I won't. I am now, hopefully, done with this topic until saturday. Go Hogs!

Well put, Lupster.
:cool: :cool:

[Jay_Lupo]

Wow, a complement (spelling?) from the man himself. I'm truly honored. For real man. :)

[WayzUp]

Here's my take and though I love you and your enthusiasm to death Neo, you're scaring me cuz your breath has wreaked of crow quite a few times this year, especially when you sound so convinced. Me personally, I'm looking at this game with very guarded confidence. here's why:

If I can take my heart out of the equation for a minute or three, these are the type games I go looking for when placing mid-season bets. It's a team that just won a huge game, an emotional and hard fought conference game on the road and they have to turn around and do it all over again. On the road....against a team that can own time of possession given a sprinkling of timely 3rd down conversions, which we seem to have a penchant at giving away.

Sure, we'll gameplan to take away as much of the running game as we can but we're going to need turnovers to win this game, just as we needed them to win the UT game in Knoxville. I find it intriguing that no one's mentioned the turnover ratio difference in all this mud slinging.... :confused: At any rate, it's going to be close no matter how much we Gamecock fans think we've ascended to the week-in, week-out winners category. I don't like to provide bulletin board material (as if anyone in Arkansas outside the ARK fans here will read this, LOL), especially when we're going to their place and could get caught looking ahead to the UF game.

But I still think we'll win. Convincingly. :D Sorry Jay! :D

[Jay_Lupo]

Here's my take and though I love you and your enthusiasm to death Neo, you're scaring me cuz your breath has wreaked of crow quite a few times this year, especially when you sound so convinced. Me personally, I'm looking at this game with very guarded confidence. here's why:

If I can take my heart out of the equation for a minute or three, these are the type games I go looking for when placing mid-season bets. It's a team that just won a huge game, an emotional and hard fought conference game on the road and they have to turn around and do it all over again. On the road....against a team that can own time of possession given a sprinkling of timely 3rd down conversions, which we seem to have a penchant at giving away.

Sure, we'll gameplan to take away as much of the running game as we can but we're going to need turnovers to win this game, just as we needed them to win the UT game in Knoxville. I find it intriguing that no one's mentioned the turnover ratio difference in all this mud slinging.... :confused: At any rate, it's going to be close no matter how much we Gamecock fans think we've ascended to the week-in, week-out winners category. I don't like to provide bulletin board material (as if anyone in Arkansas outside the ARK fans here will read this, LOL), especially when we're going to their place and could get caught looking ahead to the UF game.

But I still think we'll win. Convincingly. :D Sorry Jay! :D

Excellent post wayzup. Very confident, very informative, yet offensive to nobody. That's the way you do it right there. I actually just posted on another thread apologizing to Beeds for grouping all of the Carolina fans. I definitely should've thrown your name in there too, b/c I enjoy all of your posts and respect what you've got to say. Good luck on Saturday.

And the way Neo is talking it does remind of the way he spoke of Alabama prior to that game. But hey, Arkansas ain't Bama, so.... I hope we see a good one, but I still think the Hogs will either win or scare the ever-loving sh*t out of the Cocks :)

[scfan5338]

I like the post someone made about a "no name" breaking a long run....What "no name" running backs does Arkansas have? Darren McFadden...one of the best freshmen in the nation not to mention the SEC. Felix Jones....another top SEC freshman who was 2nd in the league in total yards going into the game with Georgia. Peyton Hillis....one of top fullbacks in the nation and a great pass catcher out of the backfield. DeArrius Howard a senior that has never fumbled. Yeah....thats a lot of "no names".

And Neo....did you say we didn't almost beat Georgia? I hate to argue about "almosts" cause this ain't hand-grenades or horse-shoes...but you brought it up. We lost by three and had the ball at the end of the game. Nuff said.

Our defense has been playing better each week....and we've actually had to play some talented offenses (aka not Tenn). We have the #1 toughest schedule in the Country and a young team = a tough season. We lack talent at the QB position and experience on Defense....USC has little talent on defense aside from Simpson and even less talent at RB and WR. I think your assumptions that USC can chalk up a win here is baseless. Ya'll took our bowl game away after a BS call on a fumble (you know it was a fumble don't even argue it) last year....now we're gonna do it to you.

USC has no chance to stop the run. We'll be hyped up with a new QB and I say McFadden and Jones get two TDs apiece....again. USC can't stop our run...no chance. Bama, Auburn, and Georgia couldn't stop it....and they actually have good defenses.


Arkansas isnt our last game so even if we lose to Arkansas we can beat UF, or chumpson and still go to a bowl so you cant take our bowl game chances away.

[scfan5338]

I think the records are misleading, The Arkansas team that got beat into small pieces by USC (the other USC) is not the same team that faced Georgia two weeks ago. Same goes for South Carolina and I am not ashamed to admit that as a Tide fan I am glad we played both teams when we did, If we had played them later in the season the outcome could have been quite a bit different.

This game is going to come down to defense and in that respect I think Arkansas has the edge.


Ok so their defense is better than ours?

Arkansas defense is ranked #76 overall
USC's defense is #44 overall
Running defense we are #86 and Arkansas is #87
Passing defense we are #15 and they are #65.
You can go figure which is the better defense.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/natlRank.jsp?div=4&rpt=IA_teamtotdef&site=org

[AFWarrior83]

My turn,
Flordia beat Vols,Vols beat LSU, Flordia beat Georgia, LSU beat Auburn... My point is that yeah USC beat Vols "big whoop" that don't amount to nothing! Arkansas isn't Tennessee and USC isn't USCal! I think the Cocks let this last game go to their heads, and Arkansas is very HUNGRY for some chicken! We are going to run the ball down Ko Simpsons secondary throath and break fragile Mitchel in 1/2! We are going to WIN this game, sorry but it's already a Win for the Hogs. We finally have a passing game, and now Monk can show Rice what a REAL WR looks like!!! 35-21 HOGS!

[Jay_Lupo]

AFW is classic, you gotta love him :)

He's our Neo.

Slow down there my friend, just b/c Nutt inserted his dick into the lineup doesn't mean that we automatically have a passing game. In fact, I wouldn't give a darn if we threw less than 10 passes Saturday and Dmac got 25 carries, Felix 15, Peyton and De'arrius 10 each. But I'll give you that it can't get any worse. Apparently Roy Witke has been trying to convince Nutt for a month now to start Mr. Dick.

Bottom line though, for us to be in this game - or any for that matter - we need to stick to our guns i.e. our legs.

[OmahaBound]

My turn,
Flordia beat Vols,Vols beat LSU, Flordia beat Georgia, LSU beat Auburn... My point is that yeah USC beat Vols "big whoop" that don't amount to nothing! Arkansas isn't Tennessee and USC isn't USCal! I think the Cocks let this last game go to their heads, and Arkansas is very HUNGRY for some chicken! We are going to run the ball down Ko Simpsons secondary throath and break fragile Mitchel in 1/2! We are going to WIN this game, sorry but it's already a Win for the Hogs. We finally have a passing game, and now Monk can show Rice what a REAL WR looks like!!! 35-21 HOGS!

someone's hitting the saki pretty hard over in japan.

arkansas could certainly win this game, but exactly how is Rice not a real WR?

glad to hear you're so confident that Dick is a sure thing now that he's played well against that stellar Hawgs secondary in practice.

and exactly what makes Mitchell so fragile? he's missed one game after a bad ankle sprain that some feared might keep him out a month, and he gets hit hard pretty much every game.

i don't mind trash talk when it makes sense, but there is absolutely zero sense for either USC or Arkansas to be talking smack this week. whichever team wins should be thankful for the victory and move on.

[AFWarrior83]

I just got fed up from all the bs being tossed around from the Minority of Cock fans! There is just no way they can contain the Frosh backs, and Dick is by far a better QB than ROJO, Nutt was just trying to save the shirt. I am looking foward to Hog football for the next few years my friend!

[AFWarrior83]

someone's hitting the saki pretty hard over in japan.

arkansas could certainly win this game, but exactly how is Rice not a real WR?

glad to hear you're so confident that Dick is a sure thing now that he's played well against that stellar Hawgs secondary in practice.

and exactly what makes Mitchell so fragile? he's missed one game after a bad ankle sprain that some feared might keep him out a month, and he gets hit hard pretty much every game.

i don't mind trash talk when it makes sense, but there is absolutely zero sense for either USC or Arkansas to be talking smack this week. whichever team wins should be thankful for the victory and move on.

I think Rice is a great FR WR, but someone said Rice is the best WR in the SEC, when I believe that Monk is better than Rice, it's just we don't pass. I think that the game will be a good one to watch, but SC fans were crowing like the sun just came up, when it's about to be a full moon over SC.

[uscrebel]

I think Rice is a great FR WR, but someone said Rice is the best WR in the SEC, when I believe that Monk is better than Rice, it's just we don't pass. I think that the game will be a good one to watch, but SC fans were crowing like the sun just came up, when it's about to be a full moon over SC.

Yo...Dude.

Your team already has names like Nutt, Johnson, & Dick, is it really necessary to throw a Moon in there, too?

:cool:

[Jay_Lupo]

Yeah AF, you may wanna lay off Rice bud. He is the real deal. You sound like the SC fans that "didn't believe the hype" on McFadden or said "he's a product of the system". Rice is tearing it up and he is for real. I did learn today, at least it was in the ADG, that's he's a redshirt freshman. In the grand scheme of things, that's irrelevant. But maybe not in the FOY race. Took a little - a very, very small bit - off the luster b/c he's spent a year in college football. But there's no question he's the real deal. Is he better than Monk? I'd say so. We'll find out soon enough (1-2 years) when we actually get a quarterback (Mustain). But right now, I'd have to go with Sidney. He's fun to watch and is one of the best - if not the best - in the league.

[Jay_Lupo]

Yo...Dude.

Your team already has names like Nutt, Johnson, & Dick, is it really necessary to throw a Moon in there, too?

:cool:

We actually have 2 Nutts and a dick, lol. :D

Sorry admins, I couldn't resist.

[LedCock]

I'm expecting a very close, down to the wire game. Could go either way but somebody has to win.
Gamecocks 800
Hogs 1 (Sympathy point from the USC fans)

[GamecocksRule]

Ok, yet again I innocently stumble into a thread that probably should be in the "Trash Talk" forum :D I am NOT totally confident of this Saturday's game against Arkansas..I never am when we play them. If we win, that will be great because we will be bowl eligiblie, if we don't win it will not suprise me that much since the Hogs have had sucess over us more times than not. Either way...it will be a good game ;)

[AFWarrior83]

Arkansas misses MJ!!!!! We really could have used him this year...

[GamecockinIL]

Hey guys! Brand new to the forum, but not new to trash talking. That being said, I have no appetite for trash talking this game. I am a devoted, long-suffering Cock fan that has been disappointed a few too many times (remember Navy).

We have a long track record of raising hopes of fans only to come crashing back down to the ground. The difference this time around is that we're sending out an SOS. Our SOS just might be a life-saver, and we'll need one until we learn how to swim with the sharks (or Hawgs) on a consistent basis.

History in the state of ARK is ugly for us, but so was TN until last week. If our SOS helps us sail safely through the ARK, then we just may be on the verge of becoming a real contender for the future. Too soon to tell, but hope springs eternal.

I'd like to predict a USC victory, but instead, I'll just wait to see if I can celebrate or take yet another lump.

[orlandogamecock]

I believe that Arky will run, run and run. But in order to run, your QB has to put it into the hands of the RB. Now, will this Dick be nervous seeing the D making a beeline to him and perhaps make an errant exchange?

Run, run, run all you want. But here's the key...









You have to put it in the endzone to score a TD.

[rabidcock]

rHey guys! Brand new to the forum, but not new to trash talking. I'd like to predict a USC victory, but instead, I'll just wait to see if I can celebrate or take yet another lump.

Welcome to the club, Gamecock in IL! You should have seen the thread 'ere the Tennessee game: we were almost absurdly polite to one another. A Vol is one thing; a pig is another. And a rib pickin' is due in Fayettville this Saturday.

Just kidding, Razors. Actually, I have an absurd respect for your 2-5 squad. After your 70-17 drubbing by the other USC, you've played solid football and have played some good teams close.

Your only failing, I'm afraid, is that you're coming face-to-face with a team of destiny, and you must take your lumps like a man and contribute (this season) to your superior brethren. This will be a breakout game for the east coast USC, and you will be overwhelmed.

Isn't it quite ironic: to be beaten by the Cocks AND the Trojans in one season. It's only "fitting". :D

[GeorgiaPride]

This should turn out to be the best JP game of the year. I don't see how Spurrier is going to let a one deminsonal team like Arkansas beat him. I know I know you almost beat Georgia, infact both of you almost beat Georgia. This matchup is alot like the UAB vs Memphis game last night. One team runs all the freaking time and the other passes most of the time. So my unbiased opinion is that it should turn out almost like last night.

South Carolina 20
Arkansas 17

[uscrebel]

Welcome to the club, Gamecock in IL! You should have seen the thread 'ere the Tennessee game: we were almost absurdly polite to one another. A Vol is one thing; a pig is another. And a rib pickin' is due in Fayettville this Saturday.

Just kidding, Razors. Actually, I have an absurd respect for your 2-5 squad. After your 70-17 drubbing by the other USC, you've played solid football and have played some good teams close.

Your only failing, I'm afraid, is that you're coming face-to-face with a team of destiny, and you must take your lumps like a man and contribute (this season) to your superior brethren. This will be a breakout game for the east coast USC, and you will be overwhelmed.

Isn't it quite ironic: to be beaten by the Cocks AND the Trojans in one season. It's only "fitting". :D

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[GeorgiaPride]

Reb you are fired up today, I wish I would have saved my post about the playoff stuff for after you signed off.

[rabidcock]

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So I guess this headline is out?
" Johnson yanked by Nutt...Inserts Dick under center against the Cocks."

WDE!
jb

[rabidcock]

So I guess this headline is out?
" Johnson yanked by N***...Inserts D*** under center against the C****."

WDE!
jb

I'm afraid so, JB. We can not allow this thread to weave, once more, in the precarious direction already visited and warned (politely) about by Jordan. No more C***/ N*** jargon allowed.

[razorhead]

Really? I'm flattered.... :D





Well, since you wanna be technical, USC lost to UGA by 2 points. Arky lost by 3 points. USC (17-15) Ark (23-20) See.... UGA scored more points on Arky than USC.






That's an impossibility. We cannot possibly ask EVERY UGA fan nor every single player. Shockley went 8-for-17 for 112 yards 2 INTS against USC. Against Arkansas, he went 6-for-10 for 74 yards and 1 TD.







Yes Auburn and Alabama whooped our collective a$$es, but what about Vanderbilt? We beat our patsies. On the other hand, didn't yall get your a$$es cut by Southern Cal? See everyone gets a butt whoopin from time to time.

The part about scheduling is laughable at best and you know it. Let's look at the schedules shall we....

Arkansas
Missouri St.
Vanderbilt
Southern Cal
Alabama
ULM
Auburn
Georgia
USC
Ole Miss
MSU
LSU

USC
UCF
Georgia
Alabama
Troy
Auburn
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Arkansas
Florida
Clemson

No where is the big difference in schedules? :rolleyes:





You shouldn't when you don't have anything to back it up. The fact is, Arky is 2-5 on the year and is in 5th place in the SEC West. If anything, Arky fans need to learn some humility. Just because we couldn't hold Alabama and Auburn to single digits, doesn't mean squat compared to Arkansas. You cannot compare what one team does to another to *prop* up your argument. That's aside from the fact that Arky will be starting a TRUE freshman QB this week against USC. I think Spurrier and Nix will smell blood and go after that kid.






And our losses weren't? :rolleyes: Take off those ridiculous glasses chief. They're affecting your brain now....

USC's losses: UGA, Alabama, Auburn.







There's nothing illegal about stupidity. Let em' keep betting against us. We seem to play better that way. I seem to remember you talking a little less smack last year when USC WR Troy Williamson single handedly won the game for us last year. What are the Hogs going to do to prepare for Sidney Rice? The best WR in the SEC hands down. :rolleyes:







You wish. Spurrier and company has a "Nut" that Nutt can't crack. :D









Sure...... :rolleyes:

The strength of schedule argument you put up is weak Neo. This link has Arkansas with the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation this year. SC ranks 18th. 2005 Strength of Schedule Rankings (http://www.nationalchamps.net/2005/sub/sos/index.htm)

I think Arkansas will lose this game. Not because of the tough opponent, or because we are starting a freshmen QB, or because of Spurrier. Bottom line is, we can't win in Fayetteville. If the game was in Little Rock, the Cocks would get bitch slapped.

[GeorgiaPride]

Razorhead --- Why do the Hogs have this problem at home as opposed to not having it on the road? I am curious to see the records of the Hogs at home vs being on the road. If this is true it is truly strange.

[Jay Bee]

I'm afraid so, JB. We can not allow this thread to weave, once more, in the precarious direction already visited and warned (politely) about by Jordan. No more C***/ N*** jargon allowed.

Cool. Thanks for straightening me out! :D

WDE!
jb

[Neo]

The strength of schedule argument you put up is weak Neo. This link has Arkansas with the 2nd toughest schedule in the nation this year. SC ranks 18th. 2005 Strength of Schedule Rankings (http://www.nationalchamps.net/2005/sub/sos/index.htm)

I think Arkansas will lose this game. Not because of the tough opponent, or because we are starting a freshmen QB, or because of Spurrier. Bottom line is, we can't win in Fayetteville. If the game was in Little Rock, the Cocks would get bitch slapped.



My argument is weak??? You post a link to a website that's not even sanctioned or endorsed by the NCAA and my argument is weak? :rolleyes: NationalChamps.net is privately run website chief. It's no more credible than say, the AP Poll or the People's Champion Poll. That website's SOS is VERY subjective. The schedules are pretty close if you look at the performance of the opponents.

Other than Southern Cal, we're virtually identical schedule wise, so don't throw that SOS crap and hope it will stick. :cool:

[razorhead]

Oh, I'm sorry. You are certainly more credible than an unbiased website with a formula which derives their SOS. Thank you for correcting me you excellency.

[razorhead]

Razorhead --- Why do the Hogs have this problem at home as opposed to not having it on the road? I am curious to see the records of the Hogs at home vs being on the road. If this is true it is truly strange.

It is a strange phenomenon. The Hogs have only lost once in Little Rock under Nutt. Granted, they play the lesser teams there every year with the exception of LSU. But it is still a much wilder and louder crowd than Fayetteville. Ever since the Pig Screen TV went in up there, I think everyone from the fans right down to the players and coaches focus too much on watching a replay. Who knows.

[Neo]

Oh, I'm sorry. You are certainly more credible than an unbiased website with a formula which derives their SOS. Thank you for correcting me you excellency.


You know you've won an argument when someone resorts to childish antics.

For starters, I didn't claim I was the "SOS Know-all/See-all". You on the other hand, held up that website as if it were scripture. The fact is, their SOS is highly subjective and if I'm going to go by formulas and such, I'm gonna go with the respected big boys.

Sagarin, Massey and the like.

So take that attitude elsewhere. I never claimed that I was more of less credible, but you did when you proclaimed that Arky was #2 in SOS this year per NationalChamps.net. You were endorsing and promoting them as to give them credibility. :cool:

[razorhead]

TeamRankings.com (http://teamrankings.com/ncf/27powerratings.php3)
Arkansas 15
USC 55

Sagarin (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt05.htm)
Arkansas 19
USC 40

If you want Massey then find it yourself, I'd bet it says about the same thing. Don't get your panties in a wad. You started the argument with one of my Hog brethren. I find it pathetic that we have to argue about who played the tougher schedule.

Your team has been a perennial doormat. You win 3 straight games over Vandy, Kentucky, and Tennessee (the worst TN team in years) and all of the sudden you are world beaters. Go ahead and boast. You'll probably win Saturday, but it will only be a matter of time before you're team assumes its usual position.

[razorhead]

<<SINGING>>


My bacon has a first name.....

It's S-T-E-V-E!

My bacon has a last name......

It's S-P-U-R-R-I-E-R! :D

This is the guy that called me childish.

[OmahaBound]

Your team has been a perennial doormat. You win 3 straight games over Vandy, Kentucky, and Tennessee (the worst TN team in years) and all of the sudden you are world beaters. Go ahead and boast. You'll probably win Saturday, but it will only be a matter of time before you're team assumes its usual position.


If you think USC has been a doormat the last 5 seasons then your standards must be as high as Dawg@heart who isn't happy with UGa winning 10 games a year. We've won at least 5 games each of those seasons, including a couple top 20 rankings at the end of the year. Is that spectacular? Of course not, but we're not a doormat anymore. And if you really think Spurrier's Gamecocks are going to be doormats of the SEC then you are in for a rude awakening my friend. You could certainly beat us on Saturday, and in the future....but you're going to have to fight for it and earn it. Good luck to the Hogs on a well played and injury free game this Saturday, and good luck to you as you improve your trash talking skills to something that makes sense.

[woo_pig_sooie]

haha, nicely done

[razorhead]

If you think USC has been a doormat the last 5 seasons then your standards must be as high as Dawg@heart who isn't happy with UGa winning 10 games a year. We've won at least 5 games each of those seasons, including a couple top 20 rankings at the end of the year. Is that spectacular? Of course not, but we're not a doormat anymore. And if you really think Spurrier's Gamecocks are going to be doormats of the SEC then you are in for a rude awakening my friend. You could certainly beat us on Saturday, and in the future....but you're going to have to fight for it and earn it. Good luck to the Hogs on a well played and injury free game this Saturday, and good luck to you as you improve your trash talking skills to something that makes sense.

You know what, maybe you're right. But it seems like we all heard the same crap when Holtz was hired. By the way, I wouldn't crow about winning 5 games each of those seasons. If my math is correct, those are losing seasons. I understand that given the USC football history, you guys may not consider 5 win seasons doormat status. In Arkansas we have higher expectations. We have tradition in football. We have been to the SECCG twice. That is unacceptable. I don't expect to go every year. One out of 4 or 5 should be acheiveable.

Trash talking is not my thing. I'm not good at it. I am a practicing smart ass and am pretty good at that. I simply replied to a ridiculous claim by Neo and he got bent out of shape. Read my posts, I expect Arkansas to lose this weekend. I don't have a beef with any other Gamecock fans. I like Spurrier, always have. Lou Holtz on the other hand was a tool. I pull for the Gamecocks most of the time. I'm thinking about changing that stance.

[SilverBritches]

Some fans are going to be eating some major crow after this game.

Wow. This thread is starting to become like the old South Carolina vs. Alabama threads before the Alabama-South Carolina game.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I pull for the Gamecocks most of the time. I'm thinking about changing that stance.
Please don't change that stance. After this weekend, why don't we gather round the camp fire, cook some hot dogs (and bacon :D ), drink a few beers, and sing Kum-Ba-Ya. Regardless of how this game turns out, we'll continue to pull for the Gamecocks through the remainder of the season, and you can pull for the Gamecocks through the remainder of the season too. Sound like a plan? :D

[OmahaBound]

You know what, maybe you're right. But it seems like we all heard the same crap when Holtz was hired. By the way, I wouldn't crow about winning 5 games each of those seasons. If my math is correct, those are losing seasons. I understand that given the USC football history, you guys may not consider 5 win seasons doormat status. In Arkansas we have higher expectations. We have tradition in football. We have been to the SECCG twice. That is unacceptable. I don't expect to go every year. One out of 4 or 5 should be acheiveable.

We didn't win 5 each of those seasons...we won at least 5. Eight, Nine, Five, Five, and Six were the victories in those 5 seasons. Like I said...certainly not spectacular but not a doormat. And no matter what Arkansas' tradition I would never call them doormats for such a streak.

And you're right, the end of the Holtz era was disappointing for all of us Gamecock fans....but you can't deny it was a vast improvement from the Brad Scott years before Lou. The talent isn't up to UGa's at this point, but it's not bad and there are a lot of highly talented freshman and sophomores on this team. So really, there's no reason to think that Spurrier can't keep improving on what Lou started to build.

Basically I'm picking on you cause you're the most recent to post, but really I'm just imploring everyone to use more sense in their trashtalk instead of just flying off the handle. It makes it much more interesting for those of us sitting in the background.

[TidePride]

I have to say I am expecting South Carolina to be a force in the SEC east in the comming years, most were expecting Fulmer to eat up Spurrier in the recruitment arena but after SC's performance against the Vols I think that table might have been flipped.

Too bad the power in the SEC has shifted and the West is where it is at now :D (I had to throw just a little jab in there)

[AFWarrior83]

Tyson is looking for a new brand of Chicken, and USC is rumored to be comming into Arkansas...

[GTmorris1970]

Tyson is looking for a new brand of Chicken, and USC is rumored to be comming into Arkansas...

That is no rumor. We are coming..... ;)

[Where's_Demetris?]

the GOOD RB....Summers.
:D Hell yeah buzbee. That one will keep me smiling all week. Thanks. As for Saturday, it's going to take another Josh Brown 49 yarder, or something equally as down to the wire. Either way it'll be a damn good game, and I'd bet on the Cocks getting the points. Final margin of victory:2.

[rabidcock]

Tyson is looking for a new brand of Chicken, and USC is rumored to be comming into Arkansas...

Isn't he the one who bites off people's ears. I'm glad he's turned his attention to white meat, instead (chicken). ;)

[rabidcock]

We didn't win 5 each of those seasons...we won at least 5. Eight, Nine, Five, Five, and Six were the victories in those 5 seasons.

Yeah, that comes to about 6.5 wins per season.

The talent isn't up to UGa's at this point, but it's not bad and there are a lot of highly talented freshman and sophomores on this team. So really, there's no reason to think that Spurrier can't keep improving on what Lou started to build.

Freshmen and sophomores make up almost 80% of our playmakers. So that seems like a valid and logical assumption to me.



Basically, I'm just imploring everyone to use more sense in their trashtalk instead of just flying off the handle. It makes it much more interesting for those of us sitting in the background.

Yeah, use yer 'maginashun! :p

And pigs.....we love ya', and we'll pick on ya' just a bit 'ere the game...but when the game's through, it's history. And we's still friends.

By the way, we Cocks all got together 'round the campfire the other evening and we voted UNANIMOUSLY....we hope ya' go 5-6 :rolleyes: (If'n ya' jus' hadn't lost to Vandy :D ).

Ohhh, well.....them's the breaks.

Good luck to ya' the REST of the season.

["Honey....is that bacon I smell cooking?" "No dear, we're having bacon on Saturday!"]

[razorhead]

I watched part of Spurrier's press conference last night one the news. You gotta love the guy. He always calls it like he sees it. He said the Arkansas defense wasn't very good, several times. He is correct. Big change from listening to Holtz poor mouth his team and build up his opponent every week.

[SPURED]

I watched part of Spurrier's press conference last night one the news. You gotta love the guy. He always calls it like he sees it. He said the Arkansas defense wasn't very good, several times. He is correct. Big change from listening to Holtz poor mouth his team and build up his opponent every week.
lol did you also notice he couldnt name your running backs other than Mcfadden? he knew you guys have the best two running backs in the conference but he only knew of Mcfadden. i thought that was pretty

[GamecockDieHard]

I seem to remember someone talking about Tennessee's front 7 being the best defensive line in the country and how Mitchell wouldn't have any time to throw to Rice. And since SC was the worst team ever to try to run the ball, we'd get -4 yards or something on the ground. Sounds like the same kind of talk to me. "McFadden is the best RB that has ever held a hawgskin in his hands," etc.. Personally, I think ARK's only chance to win is to keep running and I think you will keep it close if you can continue to run. But I don't think some ARK fans know or have any respect for the aviation show that Mitchell and company have in store for you. It's really been fun to watch and with ARK's secondary, it could be a record night for SC.

[jbuzbee]

I keep hearing about how terrible our secondary is....thats not entirely true. They are inexperienced and there isn't much depth there...but....Michael Coe is tied for the SEC lead with 3 interceptions and Michael Grant has 2. Not to mention the fact that our best cover corner (Vinnett) is out with two bad knees. The reason our secondary gets picked on so much is that we can't get any pressure on the QB from our defensive line....most of our sacks have come from blitzing linebackers meaning less people dropping back in coverage. The reason we can't get pressure from our D-Line is because they get tired....there is talent on the D-Line (Keith Jackson, Marcus Harrison)....they get tired due to lack of depth but mostly because the offense can't mount a sustained drive. It all goes back to our offense. Our defense looks bad because our offense OFTEN puts them in horrible situations.

Outside of the USC game (you'll have to excuse our D for that one....they're kinda good) our D hasn't played bad at all. They played well against Vandy until the fourth quarter where Vandy had the ball for 11 minutes cause our offense only got like 20 yards and few first downs. Against Bama they played well....sacking Croyle several times and blocking a punt (that should have been returned for a TD but some idiot dove on it instead of 'scoopin and scorin'). Against Georgia our D hung with them the whole game and put us in a position to win with the last drive....offense couldn't come through. Against Auburn we pressured and sacked Cox very well and intercepted him twice. I blame the offense.

Now this week...if our offense can play some inspired football I think we'll come away with a win. Certain things are pretty much guaranteed to happen: Arkansas will run the ball....A LOT....and will be successful doing it. USC will pass the ball....A LOT...and will be successful doing it. The deal breaker, I believe, will be turnovers.....and as Ken Hatfield used to say: "When you pass the ball three things can happen, and two of them are bad".

[razorhead]

One of my favorite games I witnessed in person was Ark/SC at Fayetteville. Steve Tanneyhill was the QB at the time. He had Kid Rock hair. I remember Henry Ford grabbing him by the hair and sacking him once. The student section was also on him pretty hard. They had a giant Bud Light blow up bottle and kept offering it to him. I think he had just gotten into some trouble.

[GamecockDieHard]

I keep hearing about how terrible our secondary is....thats not entirely true. They are inexperienced and there isn't much depth there...but....Michael Coe is tied for the SEC lead with 3 interceptions and Michael Grant has 2. Not to mention the fact that our best cover corner (Vinnett) is out with two bad knees. The reason our secondary gets picked on so much is that we can't get any pressure on the QB from our defensive line....most of our sacks have come from blitzing linebackers meaning less people dropping back in coverage. The reason we can't get pressure from our D-Line is because they get tired....there is talent on the D-Line (Keith Jackson, Marcus Harrison)....they get tired due to lack of depth but mostly because the offense can't mount a sustained drive. It all goes back to our offense. Our defense looks bad because our offense OFTEN puts them in horrible situations.

Outside of the USC game (you'll have to excuse our D for that one....they're kinda good) our D hasn't played bad at all. They played well against Vandy until the fourth quarter where Vandy had the ball for 11 minutes cause our offense only got like 20 yards and few first downs. Against Bama they played well....sacking Croyle several times and blocking a punt (that should have been returned for a TD but some idiot dove on it instead of 'scoopin and scorin'). Against Georgia our D hung with them the whole game and put us in a position to win with the last drive....offense couldn't come through. Against Auburn we pressured and sacked Cox very well and intercepted him twice. I blame the offense.

Now this week...if our offense can play some inspired football I think we'll come away with a win. Certain things are pretty much guaranteed to happen: Arkansas will run the ball....A LOT....and will be successful doing it. USC will pass the ball....A LOT...and will be successful doing it. The deal breaker, I believe, will be turnovers.....and as Ken Hatfield used to say: "When you pass the ball three things can happen, and two of them are bad".


That's a very good post and I think it's pretty clear that Arkansas is alot better than their record. Hopefully, our guys will come in to the game with all due respect. Otherwise, we could get our heads handed to us. We grossly underestimated Alabama and that was the worst game so far this season. You can't really count Auburn, 'cause Mitchell didn't play. It should be a great game!

[pc72687]

Why must you kids get so angry over a single game. Both of these teams aren't as good as they both could be. They both seem to be lacking in certain aspects and recruiting and/or hard work is the only way either is going to fix this. A win by either team would be a big help for confidence and recruiting. I would love to say the Gamecocks are going to win, but lately we seem to always get manhandled by the Hawgs. So I don't know. I hope the Gamecocks play well.

[GamecockinIL]

r

Welcome to the club, Gamecock in IL! You should have seen the thread 'ere the Tennessee game: we were almost absurdly polite to one another. A Vol is one thing; a pig is another. And a rib pickin' is due in Fayettville this Saturday.

Thanks for the welcome. I have to admit that ribs are one of my favorite meals. I hope it's the kind that just falls off the bone and not the kind that you really have to chew on.

[greggspacho]

One of my favorite games I witnessed in person was Ark/SC at Fayetteville. Steve Tanneyhill was the QB at the time. He had Kid Rock hair. I remember Henry Ford grabbing him by the hair and sacking him once. The student section was also on him pretty hard. They had a giant Bud Light blow up bottle and kept offering it to him. I think he had just gotten into some trouble.

Your right, I do remember something along the lines of him getting into a little bit of trouble over an alcohol incident. For the record it is Kid Rock who is wearing the Steve Tanneyhill hair.

[rabidcock]

I would love to say the Gamecocks are going to win, but lately we seem to always get manhandled by the Hawgs. So I don't know. I hope the Gamecocks play well.

"And the skies shall be filled with the volley of ten thousand arrows (footballs), and day shall seem as night." ;) :D

Homer(ism)

[WayzUp]

One of my favorite games I witnessed in person was Ark/SC at Fayetteville. Steve Tanneyhill was the QB at the time. He had Kid Rock hair. I remember Henry Ford grabbing him by the hair and sacking him once. The student section was also on him pretty hard. They had a giant Bud Light blow up bottle and kept offering it to him. I think he had just gotten into some trouble.
Yeah, I saw Taneyhill at a couple parties myself...he seemed like a good enough guy and he did have his share of fun. I never saw him get loud or act like an ass or treat a lady badly so I was fine with whatever he wanted to do in his spare time as long as he got it done on Saturday, which he usually did. Last USC QB to beat UT.

[uscrebel]

"And the skies shall be filled with the volley of ten thousand arrows (footballs), and day shall seem as night." ;) :D

Homer(ism)


OMG...The man has finally lost all grip on reality. ;)

[HSVTider]

Well this thread appears to have gone from discussion to blasting. :D

Anyways. This will be a very close game I think.

Arkansas has a definite advantage in the running game here and it being at home.

South Carolina has an advantage in their QB, WR's, and Secondary.

This game is almost a pick'em I think is extremely tough to call.

South Carolina's front seven struggled to stop the run against Alabama but they have definitely improved since then.

However, they haven't faced a team that can run the football like Arkansas can.

If South Carolina can stop Arkansas's running game, or even limit them to less than 4 yards per carry, they'll win and could even be ugly seeing as how Arkansas is starting a freshmen QB I think (am I right on this one?).

If not, I think Arkansas will be able to sustain enough drives to keep Spurrier's O on the sidelines and come away with a 17-13 kindof victory.

South Carolina has an extremely good chance to win this game, but I don't think they'll be able to stop Arkansas's running backs enough to expose a frosh QB to a lot of pressure situations.

So I gotta go with my brain and the Hogs on this one.

[rabidcock]

OMG...The man has finally lost all grip on reality. ;)

Aye, but Blake has not lost his grip on the ball.

[As you know, (but some others may not) that "volley of 10,000 arrows" quote was an allusion to our passing attack (as quoted by the ancients).] :p



"So, do you think the allusion was over their heads?"

"Ohhh....no, no, no.....but passes will be thrown over those of the Razors' secondary come this Saturday."

"So, you're saying the outcome of the game is up in the air?"

"Quite the contrary---come Saturday, the only thing up in the air will be the unstoppable passes of Mr. Blake Mitchell."

[cocky4ever]

And you're right, the end of the Holtz era was disappointing for all of us Gamecock fans....but you can't deny it was a vast improvement from the Brad Scott years before Lou. The talent isn't up to UGa's at this point, but it's not bad and there are a lot of highly talented freshman and sophomores on this team. So really, there's no reason to think that Spurrier can't keep improving on what Lou started to build.

Interesting note: 27 SC players have made their first collegiate start this season, which is the most in division I football.

Considering how good we've done with such young talent I think that has to be a good sign;)

[GamecocksRule]

I just can't wait until the game starts!! :D Damn I love college football!!!!

[GTmorris1970]

I just can't wait until the game starts!! :D Damn I love college football!!!!

Me either!!! Went to bed at 330, and just got up!! LOL :D

[GTmorris1970]

Interesting note: 27 SC players have made their first collegiate start this season, which is the most in division I football.

Considering how good we've done with such young talent I think that has to be a good sign;)

Dude, that sig. almost made me wet myself!!! LMAO :p :D

[cocky4ever]

Dude, that sig. almost made me wet myself!!! LMAO :p :D
I do what I can :D ;)

[CockyTatGuy]

Interesting note: 27 SC players have made their first collegiate start this season, which is the most in division I football.

Considering how good we've done with such young talent I think that has to be a good sign;)

Anyone know the number of starters we are going to graduate this year, I couldn't think of too many. I think FSPreux, Goddard(I think), and Turman.

[USC_fanboy04]

so....how bout that running game...lol sorry had to throw it in this thread. Even though you guys had a great running game just wasn't enough to finish us off.

[JerryBeeds]

so....how bout that running game...lol sorry had to throw it in this thread. Even though you guys had a great running game just wasn't enough to finish us off.

Yep, McFadden had his yards, but we kept him out of the endzone. The defense did what they had to do. Great game. Congrats to Kenny McKinley for his first career TD. Hopefully alot more are coming.

[Neo]

I'm going to refrain from talking too much sh*t, b/c I know I'll have my chance, oh, about 2:00 this Saturday. But how can you expect the mighty Gamecock defense to hold Arkansas to 7 when USC, Georgia, Alabama and Auburn couldn't?

I mean, how hilarious is it that we're sitting at 2-5, the Cocks at 5-3, and the Vegas boys have made us the favorite, by 5 points! That is priceless right there :) If we just wouldn't have collapsed in the 4Q against VAndy, we'd probably be 8-10 point favs. That should tell you what people think about SC.

Here's to ruining your so-called "showdown" with Florida the next week.

P.S. It doesn't matter if I'm the starting QB Saturday, Darren McFadden, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis and De'arrius Howard are gonna run, well, HAWG WILD in Fayetteville for far more than 225 yards. We average 256. I think we'll, at worst, get our average.



The defense rests your honor...... :cool:

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

Lupo eatin mad crow!!!!

[USC_fanboy04]

The defense rests your honor...... :cool:


That's alittle something called OWNED!!!!

[JBryant12]

Im glad my fellow USC fans are showin such class....but we got lucky...it could have easily ended quite differently....

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

Hey Lupo's been on me for awhile, especially on the rep points so Ill throw a few little jabs but Ill quit now.

[AFWarrior83]

Numbers tell who won that game... Our HC lost that one for use, great bone head calls by Nutt! He makes me Vomit!!!

[USC_fanboy04]

Numbers tell who won that game... Our HC lost that one for use, great bone head calls by Nutt! He makes me Vomit!!!

What the final score numbers?

[AFWarrior83]

That's alright, It just makes me look foward to next year with Butch Davis and Malzan calling the plays for the Hogs... We have the players to win the games, our current head coach is holding us back! Even the slow south carolina fans should be able to figure that out!

[USC_fanboy04]

That's alright, It just makes me look foward to next year with Butch Davis and Malzan calling the plays for the Hogs... We have the players to win the games, our current head coach is holding us back! Even the slow south carolina fans should be able to figure that out!

Sorry alittle slow here, could you repeat that in the form of...

Carolina 14
Ark. 10

[CockyTatGuy]

That's alright, It just makes me look foward to next year with Butch Davis and Malzan calling the plays for the Hogs... We have the players to win the games, our current head coach is holding us back! Even the slow south carolina fans should be able to figure that out!

Sooooooo we beat you 2 different years back to back, with 2 different coaches, and 2 different offensive and defensive schemes, with totally different players on each team (i.e. each team being incredibly young as compared to last year's meeting) and after all that you still wanna come back for more. Just consider this game today putting ya'll officially on notice, only the first in a great string to come.

[USC_fanboy04]

Sooooooo we beat you 2 different years back to back, with 2 different coaches, and 2 different offensive and defensive schemes, with totally different players on each team (i.e. each team being incredibly young as compared to last year's meeting) and after all that you still wanna come back for more. Just consider this game today putting ya'll officially on notice, only the first in a great string to come.

Now now, don't crush his hopes now of Ark going to the National Championship next year quite yet.

[CockyTatGuy]

Now now, don't crush his hopes now of Ark going to the National Championship next year quite yet.

I am gonna start a new team especially for him then, we shall call it Alakansas

[AFWarrior83]

Sooooooo we beat you 2 different years back to back, with 2 different coaches, and 2 different offensive and defensive schemes, with totally different players on each team (i.e. each team being incredibly young as compared to last year's meeting) and after all that you still wanna come back for more. Just consider this game today putting ya'll officially on notice, only the first in a great string to come.

Your higher than a Georgia Pine! I said HC not the assistants. Houston calls the plays boss. We got shafted last year on a bogus fumble call last year, and you guys know it! We will see ladies...

[CockyTatGuy]

I don't get to say this very much but might as well face it, SCar ownz yall in Football, Basketball, and Baseball. Also where did I talk about assistants I was talking about 2 different head coaches, pretty sure they have tv out there in arky by now but in case you hadn't heard, we had a Head Coaching change this year.

[TigerFanatic]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/kyloo/1130102891988.gif

tell him cocky!!

[cocky4ever]

Your higher than a Georgia Pine! I said HC not the assistants. Houston calls the plays boss. We got shafted last year on a bogus fumble call last year, and you guys know it! We will see ladies...
Yeah, you guys got shafted on a bad call last year. You still had a chance to win the game. We had some HORRIBLE calls go against us this year...but you know what the difference was? We overcame em and still put together and executed a gameplan that won the game for us. WE got called for facemask when it was clearly McFadden who grabbed the defenders facemask and pushed his head comlpetely back. The defender didnt even touch McFaddens helmet on the play yet was the one who got the penalty called on him. Also on the kickoff return the Ark. player had half his foot touching the goal line before he went in and downed it. That should've been a safety with us getting the ball back. Instead Ark. got the ball on the 20. I dont wanna hear about bad calls after yesterdays game :rolleyes:

All in all Ark. did give us all we could handle, as they seem to have done with most of their opponents this year. I said in an earler post that I liked SC's chances in this one because we have Spurrier on our sideline coaching against Nutt. Once again our opponents have been clearly outcoached.

[rabidcock]

Yeah, you guys got shafted on a bad call last year. You still had a chance to win the game. We had some HORRIBLE calls go against us this year...but you know what the difference was? We overcame em and still put together and executed a gameplan that won the game for us. WE got called for facemask when it was clearly McFadden who grabbed the defenders facemask and pushed his head comlpetely back. The defender didnt even touch McFaddens helmet on the play yet was the one who got the penalty called on him. Also on the kickoff return the Ark. player had half his foot touching the goal line before he went in and downed it. That should've been a safety with us getting the ball back. Instead Ark. got the ball on the 20. I dont wanna hear about bad calls after yesterdays game :rolleyes:

All in all Ark. did give us all we could handle, as they seem to have done with most of their opponents this year. I said in an earler post that I liked SC's chances in this one because we have Spurrier on our sideline coaching against Nutt. Once again our opponents have been clearly outcoached.

Now I don't have to post exactly the same thing. If the coaches had asked for a review (Tyrone Nix was clearly pointing out "safety", on the sideline) we'd have gotten not only 2 points, but the ball as well. And the score may have ended up 23-10. Could'a, would'a, should'a.....good teams find a way to win. Conversely, I was very impressed with Arkansas' team, in general, defensively and offensively; when they develop their passing game, they will be dangerous, as well as more prolific in the red zone.

[USC_fanboy04]

Your higher than a Georgia Pine! I said HC not the assistants. Houston calls the plays boss. We got shafted last year on a bogus fumble call last year, and you guys know it! We will see ladies...

Hey warrior, do you want to borrow my Sig?

[razorhead]

I don't get to say this very much but might as well face it, SCar ownz yall in Football, Basketball, and Baseball. Also where did I talk about assistants I was talking about 2 different head coaches, pretty sure they have tv out there in arky by now but in case you hadn't heard, we had a Head Coaching change this year.

Good win by the Cocks, but you are an idiot. Go back and check the history. South Carolina owns no one.

[CockyTatGuy]

Good win by the Cocks, but you are an idiot. Go back and check the history. South Carolina owns no one.

Uh oh, must be an Alakansas fan talking about history and all. Seems like whenever the current record doesn't suit people they wanna talk about how great it used to be.