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bleedsgarnet
09-26-2005, 10:57 AM
4-7 will be pushing it..i would not be suprised if we went 3-8..that 4-7 was with a healthy blake mitchell..no way we win 5..all the hope i had before the season is gone..reality bites..

TrueGCFan
09-26-2005, 11:51 AM
I think we still have a shot at 6-5 season. Here's how I see the rest of the season breaking down.

Auburn: With or without Mitchell loss.
Kentucky: With or without Mitchell win.
Vandy: I think Mitchell will be back for this game. We have a bye week between these two games. Either way I still think we should win this game.
Tenn: We have shot of winning this game if Mitchell is 100%. It's probably a loss. But I don't think we'll get blown out.
Arkanas: Just not a very good team this year. We should win this one also.
FL: We will get killed.
Clemson: Always a toss up game.

Worst case 4-7. Best case 7-4. But I think 6-5 is still very reachable.

RW13
09-26-2005, 12:09 PM
I say worst case is 4-7, we beat UK definately, and Ark or Vandy, best case is 6-5, there is no way we beat Auburn, UF, or Tennessee. Clemson is maybe a tossup b/c we get it at home. I think if we have mitchell we could beat Ark....

uscrebel
09-26-2005, 12:10 PM
I think we still have a shot at 6-5 season. Here's how I see the rest of the season breaking down.

Not sure I agree with you completely...my comments, where different, in red

Auburn: With or without Mitchell loss.

Kentucky: With or without Mitchell win.With Mitchell, you have a solid win. Without Mitchell it becomes a toss up...particularly if Auburn nicks up other players.

Vandy: I think Mitchell will be back for this game. We have a bye week between these two games. Either way I still think we should win this game. With Mitchell, this game is a toss-up. Without Mitchell it is a loss.


Tenn: We have shot of winning this game if Mitchell is 100%. It's probably a loss. But I don't think we'll get blown out. This deep in the season your lack of depth will start to show. I don't think you have a chance. I'm not sure what your definition of blow out would be, but I think they win by 17.

Arkanas: Just not a very good team this year. We should win this one also.Nope, they are not very good, but this is at home and they have a running game. Your guys are good in a lot of areas, but stopping the run is not one of them. Likely loss.

FL: We will get killed.

Clemson: Always a toss up game.

Worst case 4-7. 3-8
Best case 7-4. 5-6 But I think 6-5 is still very reachable.Not this year.

TrueGCFan
09-26-2005, 12:18 PM
Not sure I agree with you completely...my comments, where different, in red

Auburn: With or without Mitchell loss.

Kentucky: With or without Mitchell win.With Mitchell, you have a solid win. Without Mitchell it becomes a toss up...particularly if Auburn nicks up other players.

Vandy: I think Mitchell will be back for this game. We have a bye week between these two games. Either way I still think we should win this game. With Mitchell, this game is a toss-up. Without Mitchell it is a loss.


Tenn: We have shot of winning this game if Mitchell is 100%. It's probably a loss. But I don't think we'll get blown out. This deep in the season your lack of depth will start to show. I don't think you have a chance. I'm not sure what your definition of blow out would be, but I think they win by 17.

Arkanas: Just not a very good team this year. We should win this one also.Nope, they are not very good, but this is at home and they have a running game. Your guys are good in a lot of areas, but stopping the run is not one of them. Likely loss.

FL: We will get killed.

Clemson: Always a toss up game.

Worst case 4-7. 3-8
Best case 7-4. 5-6 But I think 6-5 is still very reachable.Not this year.


There is no way Kentucky is a toss up unless we're down to our 3rd string QB. Vandy's no longer a give me, but it's still a game we should win. From top to bottom we're a better team. Their strength is their QB. Our strength is our secondary. We should win this game. Ark. can run the ball and it's a home game for them give you that. But if they continue to play the way they have all year it won't even be close.

GamecocksRule
09-26-2005, 12:18 PM
We are doomed. But what's really new? Haven't we always been the "well maybe NEXT year" team? ;)

drkralc
09-26-2005, 02:32 PM
Love the enthusiasm and faith. Speaks volumes to the team and any future prospects thinking about attending the university. Why don't we just cut the baggage and forfiet the ones we know we can't win. I'm shooting for 2-9 now, thanks for the uplifting, positive notes....

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-26-2005, 02:37 PM
Love the enthusiasm and faith. Speaks volumes to the team and any future prospects thinking about attending the university. Why don't we just cut the baggage and forfiet the ones we know we can't win. I'm shooting for 2-9 now, thanks for the uplifting, positive notes....
I hear ya, drkralc. I've already burned my Auburn tickets for this weekend. ;)

uscrules
09-26-2005, 02:39 PM
I bet Spurrier and the team have not put a L beside any of the games left. We are better and we will continue to get better.

OmahaBound
09-26-2005, 02:56 PM
Not sure I agree with you completely...my comments, where different, in red

Auburn: With or without Mitchell loss.

Kentucky: With or without Mitchell win.With Mitchell, you have a solid win. Without Mitchell it becomes a toss up...particularly if Auburn nicks up other players.

Vandy: I think Mitchell will be back for this game. We have a bye week between these two games. Either way I still think we should win this game. With Mitchell, this game is a toss-up. Without Mitchell it is a loss.


Tenn: We have shot of winning this game if Mitchell is 100%. It's probably a loss. But I don't think we'll get blown out. This deep in the season your lack of depth will start to show. I don't think you have a chance. I'm not sure what your definition of blow out would be, but I think they win by 17.

Arkanas: Just not a very good team this year. We should win this one also.Nope, they are not very good, but this is at home and they have a running game. Your guys are good in a lot of areas, but stopping the run is not one of them. Likely loss.

FL: We will get killed.

Clemson: Always a toss up game.

Worst case 4-7. 3-8
Best case 7-4. 5-6 But I think 6-5 is still very reachable.Not this year.


You say Ark. is a likely loss....well that means you think a win is still possible, though unlikely. Therefore you have to put best case scenario at 6-5 or do some editing.

At this point I'm expecting 5-6. I've always said 6-5 but considering the injury to Blake and the difficulty of our remaining schedule, I'll go to 5-6. I think 6-5 is still a definite possibility but it would be tough. What I want to see out of this team more than anything the rest of the season is growth and consistency. If we can get that, but end up going 4-7, I'd be happier with that than some lucky plays making us 5-6, 6-5, whatever. We have a chance to be really good next year, but we need to improve throughout this season to make that a possibility.

uscrebel
09-26-2005, 03:17 PM
There is no way Kentucky is a toss up unless we're down to our 3rd string QB. Vandy's no longer a give me, but it's still a game we should win. From top to bottom we're a better team. Their strength is their QB. Our strength is our secondary. We should win this game. Ark. can run the ball and it's a home game for them give you that. But if they continue to play the way they have all year it won't even be close.

My point was that without your starter UKY is a toss-up...with your starter it is a win.

As being better than Vandy top to bottom, I don't see it. Even with Mitchell back, he is still making Freshman mistakes...Cutler isn't. I don't think that the Vandy upperclassmen are going to quit, I'm not sure I can say the same for the USC upperclassmen. That is where the difference is likely to be. If SOS puts in Freshmen, they will be playing against seniors. I give the nod to Vandy whether Mitchell is back or not. With Mitchell you have a chance...not a great chance, but a chance nonetheless.

uscrebel
09-26-2005, 03:19 PM
You say Ark. is a likely loss....well that means you think a win is still possible, though unlikely. Therefore you have to put best case scenario at 6-5 or do some editing.

At this point I'm expecting 5-6. I've always said 6-5 but considering the injury to Blake and the difficulty of our remaining schedule, I'll go to 5-6. I think 6-5 is still a definite possibility but it would be tough. What I want to see out of this team more than anything the rest of the season is growth and consistency. If we can get that, but end up going 4-7, I'd be happier with that than some lucky plays making us 5-6, 6-5, whatever. We have a chance to be really good next year, but we need to improve throughout this season to make that a possibility.

No editing necessary. I believe that you only win one of the possibles...not all of them. I agree that you are probably closer to 5-6 than the worst case.

Jordan
09-26-2005, 06:24 PM
Auburn: Loss

Kentucky: Win

Vandy: Tossup. If Vandy keeps playing good offensively, this one will come down to the wire.

Tennessee: Loss.

Arkansas: Likely Loss. Unless your run defense improves, I think Ark is a likely loss for you guys. They have some good backs that will eat your line alive, if they don't find a way to plug up the holes. They almost did it to us this past week, and I'll admit I was scared there for awhile. :)

Florida: Loss.

Clemson: Close, but likely Loss. They've been playing extremely well this year, and are really hanging in close with some good teams on their losses.

Worst: 3-8
Likely: 4-7 (with a win over either Vandy or Clemson)
Best: 5-6 (with a win over 2of3 Vandy, Clemson, Arkansas)
Unlikely: 6-5 (winning all 3 of the above mentioned)

scunyon
09-26-2005, 10:23 PM
Clemson: Close, but likely Loss. They've been playing extremely well this year, and are really hanging in close with some good teams on their losses.

Yeah, but as their QB put it, they could just as easily be 0-4 as they are close to being 4-0 :o

Im4Spurrier
09-26-2005, 11:38 PM
this is the difference between gamecock fans and clemson fans. the tigers can lose the first 5 games and they still think they have a chance to win the rest of them. that's why they beat us year in and year out. they think better than us. so we've lost blake mitchell. it's not the end of the world. i can promise you that the play of the o-line is much more important than the play at qb. i can't believe that anyone would doubt steve spurrier after all he's done in his career. it's not next season, it's this season. "we came out flat" and "next season" are the words of losers.

GTmorris1970
09-26-2005, 11:49 PM
I love Carolina as much as the next person, but after watching the game Saturday I have come to realize we are not very good right now. Our offensive line sux, we cannot stop the run on a weekly basis, and we are probably gonna get taken to the woodshed a couple more times this year. Spurrier will turn this thing around, but if you look at teams like Tenn. and Florida especially, we are no where near that league right now. Tennessee may embarrass us. They are HUGE, and our front lines will be destroyed by them. They will run Riggs over us, around us, and through us. I hate is as much as anyone else, but that is how I see it. Right now, looks like "get better this year and let's wait till next year" will be my motto.

GamecockDieHard
09-27-2005, 04:36 AM
....but if you look at teams like Tenn. and Florida especially, we are no where near that league right now.

GT: I don't know about you, but I thought a 6-5 season would be a successful year. At 6-5, no one would have included Tenn or Fl or Au or GA as wins. We may not be the team we wanted to be right now, but until we play Kentucky, we've still got a shot at it. Otherwise, why play the game? If we lose to Kentucky, I'll get the fat lady on stage and sing the first verse with her.
;)

GTmorris1970
09-27-2005, 05:02 AM
GT: I don't know about you, but I thought a 6-5 season would be a successful year. At 6-5, no one would have included Tenn or Fl or Au or GA as wins. We may not be the team we wanted to be right now, but until we play Kentucky, we've still got a shot at it. Otherwise, why play the game? If we lose to Kentucky, I'll get the fat lady on stage and sing the first verse with her.
;)

I had been saying 7-4, I am now going to go with more like 5-6. I truly hope I am wrong, and once again, not falling off the wagon at all. We have serious personnel issues right now. I personally don't believe it's coaching. We have guys who don't know how to or won't for whatever reason give 100% effort. Another problem is the people we have available when they are benched in some cases aren't very good either. Like Spurrier said, as far as pass blocking, you simply stay between your guy and the QB, and hustle. We are simply getting beat on the offensive and def. lines. I don't know what the answer is, and I hope I turn out wrong, but we have issues right now, and I will re-evaluate after the Auburn game.

drkralc
09-27-2005, 08:25 AM
Things to look forward to.

I see alot of promise in Heffner. Seems to me that arm looked pretty good against Troy (6-9, 91 pass, 45 rush, 1TD). It's a start anyway and besides if anyone USC has at that position has the ability to play behind that line it would be Antonio. At least there is an ability to escape the blitz. Plus Auburns not going to have much film on him which is another feather in our cap. And with Spurrier shortening the playbook it can only be good for Heffner. I for one am looking forward to Antonio being on the field for USC.