Should Nutt be fired?

[woo_pig_sooie]

I have always been a big Nutt supporter, but i must admit the loss to Vanderbilt at HOME has shaken my feelings a little bit. There are people on other boards calling for his head. What should Broyles do? Wait until the after the Alabama game to see how the team responds or wait till after the season to make a change if necessary.

Anyone who was at the game knows Arkansas was the better team and had many opportunities to slam the door on Vanderbilt. One of my biggest complaints about Nutt is the way he gets conservative on the play calling when we have the lead. We didn't throw the ball deep one time the whole game. I mean, take a chance once in a while.

On a side note, my hat goes off to Vanderbilt, especially Cutler. They never gave up.

[supergenius]

Butch Davis is in Fayetville as I type this. lol RTR

[jneesy]

i thought when nebraska came calling a few years back ole broyles should have shown him the door

[drkralc]

NOoooooooooo!

[JBryant12]

I say give him a year with Mustain...who knows maybe if yall fire Nutt he won't come to Arkansas...

[woo_pig_sooie]

NOoooooooooo!

I'm on the fence right now, but if we are 1-3 after the Bama game it might be time for a change.

[jneesy]

i wouldnt say that there much of a chance of IF right now

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

i wouldnt say that there much of a chance of IF right now
Dang, Neesy is talented. He can trash talk two teams at the same time. :D

[rebeldude]

[QUOTE=woo_pig_sooie]I have always been a big Nutt supporter, but i must admit the loss to Vanderbilt at HOME has shaken my feelings a little bit. There are people on other boards calling for his head. What should Broyles do? Wait until the after the Alabama game to see how the team responds or wait till after the season to make a change if necessary.

Anyone who was at the game knows Arkansas was the better team and had many opportunities to slam the door on Vanderbilt. One of my biggest complaints about Nutt is the way he gets conservative on the play calling when we have the lead. We didn't throw the ball deep one time the whole game. I mean, take a chance once in a while.

On a side note, my hat goes off to Vanderbilt, especially Cutler. They never gave up.[/QUOTE

SOOO yall are thinking about Cutcliffing Nutt. Neo would hate that.
By the way be careful how you use the coach's name, Kinda sounds funny when you say your a big nutt supporter. (I thought that was a Jock.)
:)

[jneesy]

we might have a winner to the who gets cutcliffed first question

[OmahaBound]

How much would the buyout be on nutt's contract?

I think it's possible Butch Davis could do more at Arkansas than Nutt, but by no means is that a sure thing....so if the Hogs would have to pay Nutt a bunch in severance it probably wouldn't be worth it at this point. Plus Nutt has flirted with a few teams the last few years, but Davis would flat out impregnate them. He would jump at any bigger school opportunity.

[rebeldude]

How much would the buyout be on nutt's contract?

I think it's possible Butch Davis could do more at Arkansas than Nutt, but by no means is that a sure thing....so if the Hogs would have to pay Nutt a bunch in severance it probably wouldn't be worth it at this point. Plus Nutt has flirted with a few teams the last few years, but Davis would flat out impregnate them. He would jump at any bigger school opportunity.

Watch your post count, the next one could be ugly
:D

[Rebeldrummer]

we might have a winner to the who gets cutcliffed first question

Ironically another coach who lost to vanderbilt at home

[frankallyn]

I have never understud why people love Nutt so much
1. I dont think Nebraska really wanted him this was more his agent floating his name to recieve a exstension at UARK
2. He makes a complete ass of himself on the sidelines
3. All this crap about doing more with less that I hear every time the are on TV is boring. How long has he been there 8 years? it is his own fault that he doesnt have the players other teams do.
4. If you argue he does have the players why doesnt he win more

[Neo]

SOOO yall are thinking about Cutcliffing Nutt. Neo would hate that. By the way be careful how you use the coach's name, Kinda sounds funny when you say your a big nutt supporter. (I thought that was a Jock.):)


There is a difference Rebel. Cutcliffe had ONE (1) losing season in all the years of being at Ole Miss and they were highly competitive. He succeeded with the players he had and then some. :cool:

Cutcliffe got a raw deal....PERIOD!


As for Nutt, go ahead and start scouting out replacements. He's been at Arkansas long enough to have the players he needs. :cool: This is a new low for Arkansas. In Nutt's tenure there, this is the first time he's lost to Vanderbilt. :cool:

In Honor Of You....."Cutcliffe'd"

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/ole/sports/m-footbl/99-00roster/s-cutcliff9900.jpg

Name: David Nelson Cutcliffe
Born: September 16, 1954 in Birmingham, Ala.
Wife: The former Karen Oran of Harriman, Tenn.
Married: June 23, 1984
Children: Chris (2/6/87), Katie (4/12/89), Emily (8/8/2000)
Hobbies: Family & Fishing

Position: Head Coach; 1998-2004
Record At Ole Miss: 44-29-0
Career Record: 44-29-0

[JerryBeeds]

Haha! Here we go again... :D

[Cianne]

There is a difference Rebel. Cutcliffe had ONE (1) losing season in all the years of being at Ole Miss and they were highly competitive. He succeeded with the players he had and then some. :cool:

Cutcliffe got a raw deal....PERIOD!


As for Nutt, go ahead and start scouting out replacements. He's been at Arkansas long enough to have the players he needs. :cool: This is a new low for Arkansas. In Nutt's tenure there, this is the first time he's lost to Vanderbilt. :cool:

Cutcliffe didn't get a raw deal. Cutcliffe got a great deal. He got $5 million for a job he was going to quit in the spring anyway.

[uscrebel]

How much would the buyout be on nutt's contract?

I think it's possible Butch Davis could do more at Arkansas than Nutt, but by no means is that a sure thing....so if the Hogs would have to pay Nutt a bunch in severance it probably wouldn't be worth it at this point. Plus Nutt has flirted with a few teams the last few years, but Davis would flat out impregnate them. He would jump at any bigger school opportunity.

That's freakin' funny!

[woo_pig_sooie]

There is a difference Rebel. Cutcliffe had ONE (1) losing season in all the years of being at Ole Miss and they were highly competitive. He succeeded with the players he had and then some. :cool:

Cutcliffe got a raw deal....PERIOD!


As for Nutt, go ahead and start scouting out replacements. He's been at Arkansas long enough to have the players he needs. :cool: This is a new low for Arkansas. In Nutt's tenure there, this is the first time he's lost to Vanderbilt. :cool:

Well, this is the only time we've ever played Vanderbilt in Nutt's tenure. The scheduling got switched around and Vanderbilt wasn't put on our schedule until this year.

[uscrebel]

Well, this is the only time we've ever played Vanderbilt in Nutt's tenure. The scheduling got switched around and Vanderbilt wasn't put on our schedule until this year.

it's okay...the facts sometimes get in the way of a good post for all of us.

[Neo]

Well, this is the only time we've ever played Vanderbilt in Nutt's tenure. The scheduling got switched around and Vanderbilt wasn't put on our schedule until this year.


Geez... :rolleyes:

That's the message I was trying to convey other than the fact he lost to Vanderbilt.

I swear, some people love picking gnat &^*$ outta pepper. :D :cool:

[Rebeldrummer]

There is a difference Rebel. Cutcliffe had ONE (1) losing season in all the years of being at Ole Miss and they were highly competitive. He succeeded with the players he had and then some. :cool:

Cutcliffe got a raw deal....PERIOD!


As for Nutt, go ahead and start scouting out replacements. He's been at Arkansas long enough to have the players he needs. :cool: This is a new low for Arkansas. In Nutt's tenure there, this is the first time he's lost to Vanderbilt. :cool:


How many Loosing seasons has Nutt had .. How many times have they been competitive .. and I believe they made it to atlanta under him ... and keep in mind Nutt has been there longer ...

[gopig]

As far as I'm concerned our problem continues to be defense. Nutt has taken a major step to improve our defense, a step that probably could not have been taken w/o him being here.

I say give Herring time. There's no way that Nutt can look good til the defense does. We've just switched coordinators and we stink, but that'll change.

[Rebeldrummer]

There is a difference Rebel. Cutcliffe had ONE (1) losing season in all the years of being at Ole Miss and they were highly competitive. He succeeded with the players he had and then some. :cool:

Cutcliffe got a raw deal....PERIOD!


As for Nutt, go ahead and start scouting out replacements. He's been at Arkansas long enough to have the players he needs. :cool: This is a new low for Arkansas. In Nutt's tenure there, this is the first time he's lost to Vanderbilt. :cool:
Nutt

84-49 (.632) in 11 seasons


thats comparable to say the least but he is ready to be fired after loosing to vandy at home ( which is a feet cutt pulled off too ) yet one got a raw deal ?

[Neo]

Nutt

84-49 (.632) in 11 seasons


thats comparable to say the least but he is ready to be fired after loosing to vandy at home ( which is a feet cutt pulled off too ) yet one got a raw deal ?



Schools back in....

Houston Nutt
1997: Boise State - 4-7
1998-2005: Arkansas - 53-33-0

Total: 57-40-0 (.588)


David Cutcliffe
1998-2004: Mississippi

Total: 44-29-0 (.603)

Facts: Cutcliffe lost to Vanderbilt in his first year as the OM head coach. The rest you can figure out on your own. :cool:

Where did you get the 11 year figure??? :confused:

[uscrebel]

Schools back in....

Houston Nutt
1997: Boise State - 4-7
1998-2005: Arkansas - 53-33-0

Total: 57-40-0 (.588)


David Cutcliffe
1998-2004: Mississippi

Total: 44-29-0 (.603)

Facts: Cutcliffe lost to Vanderbilt in his first year as the OM head coach. The rest you can figure out on your own. :cool:

Where did you get the 11 year figure??? :confused:

Let's not worry about the 11 year figure, Bucko.

From 1998-2004 only

Cutcliffe was 44-29 for a .603 average

Nutt was 53-33 for .616 average

He is 1-1 this year meaning his record at Arkansas is .613.

Both are better than Cut's average and he has 10 more wins than Cut.

If you had any sort of consistent principles you would jump off of your high horse and start smacking the Hawg fans for the travesty and injustice they are suggesting take place.

By my calculations, he would have to lose all the rest of his games to be as bad (good?) as Cut.

So...get it on, Dude. Stop telling us Rebels how bad we are and save Houston Nutt's job.

[Rebeldrummer]

Schools back in....

Houston Nutt
1997: Boise State - 4-7
1998-2005: Arkansas - 53-33-0

Total: 57-40-0 (.588)


David Cutcliffe
1998-2004: Mississippi

Total: 44-29-0 (.603)

Facts: Cutcliffe lost to Vanderbilt in his first year as the OM head coach. The rest you can figure out on your own. :cool:

Where did you get the 11 year figure??? :confused:

huston nutt .com

But as usual USC reb was articualte than me at getting what I was trying to say ..

Nutt and Cutt both lost the first time they played Vandy

[Chivas]

I'm willing to drink away the rest of the football season and start again next year. If Nutt doesn't turn it around, can him. On another note, was anyone in fayettville the weekend of the game? The town was depressed for the entire weekend. In fact, I think pretty much everyone up here needs a perscription to Prozac for the next couple of months. It's going to be a long year. ;/

[Neo]

Let's not worry about the 11 year figure, Bucko.

From 1998-2004 only

Cutcliffe was 44-29 for a .603 average

Nutt was 53-33 for .616 average

He is 1-1 this year meaning his record at Arkansas is .613.

Both are better than Cut's average and he has 10 more wins than Cut.


There is no 11 year term BUCKO! That was my point. I can see why you want to include Cutcliffe's entire coaching career and not Nutt's. Because by not including Nutt's first year, it props up your argument. The fact is, OVERALL Cutcliffe has a better win percentage than Nutt. No matter how you stir, shake, or mix it, those are the facts....BUCKO! :cool:

BTW: I wasn't the one that brought up the career coaching totals for them. That was your OM brother. :cool:



If you had any sort of consistent principles you would jump off of your high horse and start smacking the Hawg fans for the travesty and injustice they are suggesting take place.


What high-horse? The one that doesn't believe in firing someone that has had more success than any other coach in OM history since Vaught? :rolleyes:



By my calculations, he would have to lose all the rest of his games to be as bad (good?) as Cut.

So...get it on, Dude. Stop telling us Rebels how bad we are and save Houston Nutt's job.



For starters, you need to go back and read some more. No one is saying someone is bad or whatnot. What I'm saying is that Cutcliffe got screwed plain and simple. The only people that don't think so are the OM fans. :cool:

As for your calculations, where did you get your totals? It's almost like a US Government audit here. :rolleyes: :cool:

[Jordan]

Where did you get the 11 year figure??? :confused:

Probably included his stats from his days of coaching Murray St in Div II-A, before going to Boise St. That would put it pretty close to the 11-yr mark, not sure what the exact years were that he was there.

[GeauxTo]

I'm on the fence right now, but if we are 1-3 after the Bama game it might be time for a change.
No, Arkansas should keep Nutt and LSU should fire Pelini.
:rolleyes:

[OrangeCrush]

As far as I'm concerned our problem continues to be defense. Nutt has taken a major step to improve our defense, a step that probably could not have been taken w/o him being here.

I say give Herring time. There's no way that Nutt can look good til the defense does. We've just switched coordinators and we stink, but that'll change.

We have a winner.

[JerryBeeds]

Just wanted to add a poll so we can gauge everyone's opinion...

[Rebeldrummer]

You seem a littel testy here ... SO to coin one of you phrases h
11 year

you politley left off Murray state !!

Success is nothing new to the Little Rock native. Nutt has compiled a career record of 84-49 (.632) in 11 seasons as a head coach including stops at Murray State, Boise State and Arkansas. He has compiled a 48-27 (.640) mark as the Razorbacks’ head coach.
(http://www.houstonnutt.com/houston_nutt.htm)

Lets look at his accomplishments while in teh SEC shall we ......

Only SEC Western Division Team with six bowl appearances since 1998
Most Home Wins (38) of any SEC Team in the last seven years
Houston Nutt was the 2001 SEC Coach of the Year
Two Western Division Championships (1998 and 2002)

How many Western Div championships does cutt have ????

2 nine win sesaons under Nutt .. 1- for Cutt .....

IT's getting lopsided real quick here ...

If I am not mistaken Cutt was .500 or less against ark....
and his worst losses were to ark . when his team simply quit ...


And Cutt who got a raw deal Said he couldn't get to the next level and was fine with teh Status Quoe .. not what admin wanted ?

then stated on Radio show that the west was a race between UA AU and LSU and always will be ...

Cutt held on for teh pay out ...

You are right OM fans think he got what he deserved because we watched him under achieve time and time again . Every other tema in teh SEC is happy for us to be just competitive and achieve Moral Victories ..

But that isn't good enough for USC ?

yet we are belittled for wanting more ...

Eli was cutts savior and Down fall ... ELi won the extra games in 2003 we tasted 10 wins again for the longest time .. and we wanted more of it .

And for the record The most suceesful coach since brewer is a skewed stat .. yes he won more games .. he had more game to play .. Brewer wone 9 games twice with less talent and with fewer games on teh schedule ?

[JerryBeeds]

One wonders what Cut's record would've been without Eli. I submit to you ladie's and gentlemen (mostly gentlemen) that he would've had a sub-.500 record without Manning.

[uscrebel]

[snip]
For starters, you need to go back and read some more. No one is saying someone is bad or whatnot. What I'm saying is that Cutcliffe got screwed plain and simple. The only people that don't think so are the OM fans. :cool:

As for your calculations, where did you get your totals? It's almost like a US Government audit here. :rolleyes: :cool:

Neo....

you so funny!!

I would really recommend that YOU go back through the archives. I think that you will find that I have always said that Cut got screwed. I know that Cianne and BeeDee are on record as saying the same thing. All we are saying is that you are applying one standard for Ole Miss Fans and another for Arkansas fans.

you so funny!!

As to why I left off Nutt one year at Boise State...it's irrelevant. Arkansas fans are not upset at him because he didn't win at Boise...they are upset because of his Arkansas record.

you so funny!!

Finally, on the matter of math, it is basic high school math. My 15 y/o sophomore can help you out if you don't understand winning percentages.

BTW...you should really see somebody about that fuse of yours...it seems to be getting shorter all the time.

THGG :cool: :cool:

[uscrebel]

Just wanted to add a poll so we can gauge everyone's opinion...

I notice the Hawgs do not have a position.

[cocky4ever]

Well I havent read through this whole thread but on some other threads I have stated my thoughts on this matter. Let Arkansas fire Nutt and see what happens. Is his replacement gonna be able to do any better? Do you think he could do better at recruiting in what is possibly one of the hardest areas to recruit in the country? Is the replacement gonna get as much out of his players as Nutt does? Will the replacement be as loyal as Nutt? If you answered "no" to any of those questions then I think the question of this thread has been answered.

[uscrebel]

Well I havent read through this whole thread but on some other threads I have stated my thoughts on this matter. Let Arkansas fire Nutt and see what happens. Is his replacement gonna be able to do any better? Do you think he could do better at recruiting in what is possibly one of the hardest areas to recruit in the country? Is the replacement gonna get as much out of his players as Nutt does? Will the replacement be as loyal as Nutt? If you answered "no" to any of those questions then I think the question of this thread has been answered.

Yeah...what he said...and his hot girlfriend...uh, wife.

[cocky4ever]

Yeah...what he said...and his hot girlfriend...uh, wife.
LOL :D ......its wife rebel...wife.

You trying to get me in trouble or something. ;) :D

[uscrebel]

LOL :D ......its wife rebel...wife.

You trying to get me in trouble or something. ;) :D

Who would you get in trouble with...wife or girlfriend?

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Who would you get in trouble with...wife or girlfriend?
Probably both. :D

[cocky4ever]

LOL :D OK.... Thats it. Both of you guys are going on ignore until you can learn to not try to get me in trouble with my better half:D. J/K;)

[Neo]

You seem a littel testy here ... SO to coin one of you phrases 11 year you politley left off Murray state !!




Well since we're discussing junior colleges and such, let's go ahead and add John McKissick to the discussion. He is afterall the winningiest football coach in the sport. Nevermind the fact that he coaches HS. :rolleyes: :cool:






Success is nothing new to the Little Rock native. Nutt has compiled a career record of 84-49 (.632) in 11 seasons as a head coach including stops at Murray State, Boise State and Arkansas. He has compiled a 48-27 (.640) mark as the Razorbacks’ head coach.




According to collegefootballdatawarehouse.com, he has compiled a 53-33-0 record while at Arkansas. He is 57-40-0 overall. (DIV I)




How many Western Div championships does cutt have ?? 2 nine win sesaons under Nutt .. 1- for Cutt .....IT's getting lopsided real quick here ...




Of course it is. Cutcliffe was in the SEC for six (6) years while Nutt is going on his eighth (8th) year. :rolleyes: Let's give Cutcliffe two (2) more years to make it even.
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=516




If I am not mistaken Cutt was .500 or less against ark..and his worst losses were to ark . when his team simply quit ...


Actually, Cutcliffe has a lifetime record of 3-3 against Arkansas (Nutt) and they were far from being his worst losses.

Cutcliffe's losses to Arkansas
2001: 58-56
2002: 48-28
2004: 35-3

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_opponents_records.php?coachid=516&teamid=175



And Cutt who got a raw deal Said he couldn't get to the next level and was fine with teh Status Quoe .. not what admin wanted ?



That's not what I heard. I heard that the admin wanted him to "Clean House" and he refused. It was stipulated in his contract that he makes ALL decisions regarding personnel and has total control. Well, the admin pencil pushers didn't like that even though they put it in his contract. :cool:




then stated on Radio show that the west was a race between UA AU and LSU and always will be ...



If the shoe fits, wear it. :cool:





You are right OM fans think he got what he deserved because we watched him under achieve time and time again . Every other tema in teh SEC is happy for us to be just competitive and achieve Moral Victories ..

But that isn't good enough for USC ?

yet we are belittled for wanting more ...


Now here we come with the truthful feelings. Let's be honest, Ole Miss isn't Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Alabama or Auburn. What does Ole Miss have to offer recruits that everyone else doesn't?

As for USC, if we were averaging 7-8 wins a season, you would NOT hear us complaining. If you can manage 7-8 wins in the SEC, then you're doing a hell of a job considering the competition level. :cool:

[gopig]

I'll repeat what I said on the other thread... Nutt has been putting points on the board, it's the defense that has suffered lately. In the offseason he took a huge step to correct that. Let's wait and see if the correction works.

[Cianne]

Now here we come with the truthful feelings. Let's be honest, Ole Miss isn't Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Alabama or Auburn. What does Ole Miss have to offer recruits that everyone else doesn't?

Best looking co-eds in the country and the #1 school that you don't have to study for!

Honestly though, until Orgeron came, recruiting in this state was god awful. Cutcliffe never tried to recruit. With Eli on board, any 2 or 3 star receiver turns all world, except for Mario Hill who is going to flourish under Mazzone. Another problem under Cutcliffe was the entitlement whoring that was prevalent for seniors everywhere. Would you go to a school you knew you wouldn't play at because seniors always start ahead of you? I don't think so.

Even Sherill had to goto JC because everyone in the state is too stupid to qualify.

The state has multiple issues across the board.

[uscrebel]

Probably both. :D

Hah. You rock, GC Fan.

[uscrebel]

Now here we come with the truthful feelings. Let's be honest, Ole Miss isn't Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Alabama or Auburn. What does Ole Miss have to offer recruits that everyone else doesn't?

As for USC, if we were averaging 7-8 wins a season, you would NOT hear us complaining. If you can manage 7-8 wins in the SEC, then you're doing a hell of a job considering the competition level. :cool:

I guess if I was from one of the two teams in the SEC with an all-time losing record. (495-512-44 .492) I would probably say the same thing.

[Rebeldrummer]

Well since we're discussing junior colleges and such, let's go ahead and add John McKissick to the discussion. He is afterall the winningiest football coach in the sport. Nevermind the fact that he coaches HS. :rolleyes: :cool:










According to collegefootballdatawarehouse.com, he has compiled a 53-33-0 record while at Arkansas. He is 57-40-0 overall. (DIV I)








Of course it is. Cutcliffe was in the SEC for six (6) years while Nutt is going on his eighth (8th) year. :rolleyes: Let's give Cutcliffe two (2) more years to make it even.
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_year_by_year.php?coachid=516






Actually, Cutcliffe has a lifetime record of 3-3 against Arkansas (Nutt) and they were far from being his worst losses.

Cutcliffe's losses to Arkansas
2001: 58-56
2002: 48-28
2004: 35-3

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_opponents_records.php?coachid=516&teamid=175






That's not what I heard. I heard that the admin wanted him to "Clean House" and he refused. It was stipulated in his contract that he makes ALL decisions regarding personnel and has total control. Well, the admin pencil pushers didn't like that even though they put it in his contract. :cool:







If the shoe fits, wear it. :cool:







Now here we come with the truthful feelings. Let's be honest, Ole Miss isn't Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Alabama or Auburn. What does Ole Miss have to offer recruits that everyone else doesn't?

As for USC, if we were averaging 7-8 wins a season, you would NOT hear us complaining. If you can manage 7-8 wins in the SEC, then you're doing a hell of a job considering the competition level. :cool:

Well I can see you do harbour double standards .. That is plaion ..

Give Cutt 2 more years .. Nutt did it in teh earlier portion of his career ..

:re

and thanks for adding extrainious and pointless information in about Hs football coaches and such .. you asked where 11 years came from .. adfter telling me school was in like I was a retard or something so I pointed it out for you casue obviously you trivial knowledge of football pertains to HS and JC ...

And if you are happy with 7 wins a year ..thats fine .. Call me when you expieience it ..

I do appreciate that fact you implied that we are a small littel school in a small littel town away from nowhere and should accept our place adn a middle level school ..

Becasue places that are in teh middle of no where can win ..

State college Pennsylvania perhaps ... they could never win ..
and that just off my head .

IF you are so found of Cutt why aren't out upset that USC didn't go after him ..
For that fact .. Why didn't LSU ? Ark .. passed him up for nutt .. Why did he stay as an asst for 17 years at one school .... DI you see all the offers he had ... I didn't Indiana exPressed som interest .. they figure they should stick with washed up SEC Coaches ...

[rebeldude]

One wonders what Cut's record would've been without Eli. I submit to you ladie's and gentlemen (mostly gentlemen) that he would've had a sub-.500 record without Manning.

Thank you! :D :D

[rabidcock]

I don't see how you guys can want to fire your coach, just because of a less than stellar season's beginning. A lot could happen, and you have to take it into account that even Vandy is going to have an occasional good year and sneak up on some teams. (Why, they even beat us one year---WHEN WE STANK!!)

Nutt has had many successful seasons, bowl games and has a winning record and a championship. Let's face it, Arkansas has not been a consistent power since Lou Holtz (man, I really was a big fan of those teams--the offense, with that unstoppable option, was really something to behold!)

Keep Nutt; you could do a lot worse.

[jneesy]

its a typical year in the sec and someones gotta go

looks like it will probably be nutt if this keeps up

[AFWarrior83]

I think 70% of Arkansas was on Nutt's side, until they seen him throw an SEC game away, by not closing the door, and playing conservative once we had an 11 point lead. I stuck up for HDN on several occusations, but not anymore, it's just his time to go. True he got Herring and that will help our defense with time, but we are tired of waiting for a top 20 spot. When he first came to the UofA, he said we are going to build a top program, and we have one of the best facilities in the south! So why can't we have one of the top football teams in the south year in year out? Our Track is one of the best in the nation, our baseball is always in the top 25, Basketball has been down, but this year should be real great.

Anyways football has just been down, and how long do you give someone to turn it around? I think Matt Jones saved his job a few times, due to his abilities to win games, we would have normally lost. Our defense has to get better, or Nutt is going to get canned soon!
Frank broyles said he is safe this year, but if we have another 5-6 season or worse... I don't think safe is the word I would use around Arkansas.

[WayzUp]

I think 70% of Arkansas was on Nutt's side, until they seen him throw an SEC game away, by not closing the door, and playing conservative once we had an 11 point lead. I stuck up for HDN on several occusations, but not anymore, it's just his time to go. True he got Herring and that will help our defense with time, but we are tired of waiting for a top 20 spot. When he first came to the UofA, he said we are going to build a top program, and we have one of the best facilities in the south! So why can't we have one of the top football teams in the south year in year out? Our Track is one of the best in the nation, our baseball is always in the top 25, Basketball has been down, but this year should be real great.

Anyways football has just been down, and how long do you give someone to turn it around? I think Matt Jones saved his job a few times, due to his abilities to win games, we would have normally lost. Our defense has to get better, or Nutt is going to get canned soon!
Frank broyles said he is safe this year, but if we have another 5-6 season or worse... I don't think safe is the word I would use around Arkansas.
USC has had somewhat of the same problem in recent years. We get these top 15, top 20 recruiting classes and wondered why that hasn't resulted in our moving up in the ultra-competitive SEC East. Well, when UGA, UF and UT have top 10, top 5 recruiting classes...it kinda takes the wonder part out of the equation.

Arkansas may get a handful of solid recruits and one star but LSU & Auburn seem to always be a few notches higher on the recruiting food chain and that's showed in the final season standings in the SEC West. Up until last year, Ark had a nice run going there of 7-9 win seasons....there are a lot of teams out there that wouldn't mind that kind of disappointment.

That being said, I don't think Nutt knows exactly what he has to do to get over that hump and into the perennial contender status you'd like to see. Careful though, not to dump a solid coach to reach for a guy that isn't up to even Nutt's level of production....but it's a risk you're going to have to take sooner or later.

I'm never for mid-season firings of head coaches so I would give him at least the rest of this season to see what kind of momentum he can get going & if y'all do fire him do it IMMEDIATELY after the season so his successor has some time to get in there and recruit.

[AFWarrior83]

I don't think we should fire him until after the season. I would give him till the end and see where we ended up. If we go 5-6 again, then try and get Butch Davis, I have heard great things about him, and he has way more coaching experience. Nutt's problem is that he is to hands on, he needs an OC calling the plays from the booth, they can see the field from up-top. I just think if Nutt goes, Herring will follow. I would like to see what Herring could do with a few years of solid Defensive recruits. Nutt always goes after the Offensive players and it shows. We score points, but can't stop the other team from scoring and we lose!

[WayzUp]

Oh man...don't wish for Butch Davis.....

[roosterj37]

I heard today that Ark AD was going to retire and Nutt was going to take over then they were going to hire Mike Price as head coach

[jneesy]

oh hell hide the booze and strippers

[GeauxTo]

oh hell hide the booze and strippers
No booze or strippers in Arkansas; just bathtub homebrew and "good ole girls."

But wait a minute, Nutt may not be that bad. Vanderbilt appears to have a very good football team. If he plays Southern Cal decently, he'll stay.

[AFWarrior83]

I heard today that Ark AD was going to retire and Nutt was going to take over then they were going to hire Mike Price as head coach

People have been saying Nutt was going to be the next AD, but he said he wants to coach for the next 10 years, maybe this year changed his mind? Who is Mark Price? I have heard talk about Gus Malzan from Springdale H.S. could get a job on the hill. I know he is high school, but he is a great play caller, just look at what #1 Arkansas team springdale did to #1 Oklahoma team Jenks. 44-0 and he also has the bulldogs on a national level. We shale see...

[BamaDude06]

It's Mike Price. He was Bama's coach after Fran left for A&M, but was fired before he coached a game, when they hired Mike Shula.

[jbuzbee]

I'd take Price....I'd prefer Butch and if Nutt goes I think he is the likely replacement due to his relationship with several important boosters and the fact that he went to Arkansas. I just want somebody to open up the offense and throw the ball downfield.....I don't mean to abandon the run but our running game would be that much more powerful if we could throw the ball deep in the middle of the field. We really need some playmakers on defense......like when we had Bua, Hamlin, Kennedy, Caleb Miller, Carlos Hall...etc.

[Chivas]

DAMN BUA

this is all

[HSVTider]

I think you guys should keep Nutt. Seriously.

[WooHawg]

Its time for a change. Either way I will stand by the Hogs like always.

[jbuzbee]

I stand by the Hogs as well....but I can no longer stand by Nutt. Even if he stays, I am as close to certain as I could be that Broyles will demand that he name a offensive coordinator.....to, if nothing else, take some of the heat of Nutt. When your down 40+ to the #1 team in the nation, you don't run the ball three straight downs....whats the risk there?

[jbuzbee]

If our playbook had been any more vanilla the past two years......it would have been issued by Yarnell's.

[AFWarrior83]

Fire Nutt, keep Herring. Get Butch and Malzan! Recruit/get the springdale 5! Those are the keys to success next season!

[jneesy]

if he plays bama close he buys a little time if bama hangs a bomb on him he couldnt win enough games to save his ass

[RW13]

I would say firing Nutt would be one of the worst decisions in post 1992 SEC history....

[WooHawg]

The thing is, I am tired of Nutt buying more time. Its time for a change gents. You're right jbuz, our playbook is vanilla. Throughout Nutt being at Arkansas, when times have been bad I always stayed optimistic. I can no longer continue with that way of thinking.

[uscrebel]

I would say firing Nutt would be one of the worst decisions in post 1992 SEC history....

Nah. If this season continues like it has, look for a significant shake up at best and a house cleaning at worst. Even though it has been a few years now, I think that the Nolan Richardson thing took a lot of wind out of the athletic department at Hog U. I realize that they dominate track and field, but very few people actually give a rip about that.

I realize that there is Central Arkansas and Arkansas State, but lets get real, UARK is the only football game in town, making it a little more important to field a winner than in elsewhere in the Southeast/Southwest. Almost every other school as both an intra-state and inter-state rival...the Arkies do not. Orgeron keeps his job as long as he beats MSU and does well against LSU. Shula keeps his job if he beats Auburn and does well against UTK. Tubby needs to beat Bama and do well against UGA or UTK. Meyer needs to beat F$U and UGA.... Well, you get the picture. Nutt has no such touchstones. No natural rivals. He has to do well all the time AND pull off an upset on occasion.

The big news flash is that more and more teams defend that 90's offense that he runs and he will only be able to win consistently against D1AA teams and D1A teams who have been hit by injuries. Later in the season.

Nutt's other problem is his record. While he is a respectible 54-35 (.608), his road record is 17-24 (.414) against his home record of 37-11 (.770). Bear in mind, however, that his 37 home wins include wins against ULL(2), SMU, MTSU, ULM (3), SMS (2), UNLV, Weber, UCF, USF, Troy, NMSU (2), & Tulsa. (We all schedule cupcakes, I just think that they have to be accounted for at some point. This amounts to 17 gimme's in a 48 game home schedule...and this doesn't count games again MSU and UKY.)

I think that he is done...at least he is done as offensive coordinator.

[jneesy]

he loses this one big and someones gonna find a pile of bricks and give him the bill curry treatment

[AFWarrior83]

Nutt is a great guy, and a good coach with a decent staff, but at Arkansas we need a great coach with a great staff, to really compete for the SECC. I think he helped our program, but after 7+ years and no real winning teams, it's time for him to move on...

[rabidcock]

Nutt is a great guy, and a good coach with a decent staff, but at Arkansas we need a great coach with a great staff, to really compete for the SECC. I think he helped our program, but after 7+ years and no real winning teams, it's time for him to move on...

I hear Lou Holtz is available.

[uscrebel]

I hear Lou Holtz is available.

My only regret is that I have but 5 reps points to give for my buddy.
(With apologies to Nathan Hale.)

[jbuzbee]

I hear Lou Holtz is available.

Been there...done that.

[GeauxTo]

Nutt is a great guy, and a good coach with a decent staff, but at Arkansas we need a great coach with a great staff, to really compete for the SECC. I think he helped our program, but after 7+ years and no real winning teams, it's time for him to move on...
I like Mike Price for the Hogs. He would make them a contender in the SEC.
:)

[Noah.Dreams]

I heard that Boyle's plane has already landed in Louisville. Bobby Petrino will be announced before the end of the season.

[jbuzbee]

I wish.......

[hogfacts]

Yes, I was a big fan of Nutts but not anymore. He has proven year after year that he can not recruit. If you are not in the top 4 in SEC recruiting just about every year, then you have no chance to win championships. Look at his recruiting record, he is consistently ranked #8 every year in SEC recruiting. He is under 500 in wins and losses in the SEC. Look at his recruiting record vs his wins and losses. Go back and look at the Top teams in the SEC and you will see that their recruiting record matches their wins and losses.

We need a coach who can recruit with the big boys. We have some of the top facilities in the nation and still can not bring in a top recruiting class.

[WooHawg]

This article here pretty much lays any arguement to rest for those who think Nutt should remain head coach. Just the facts.. I have defended Nutt many times and continued to do so until this year. There are still times I catch myself making excuses. It is hard to argue with numbers.

http://www.swtimes.com/articles/2005/09/27/commentary/scott_faldon/faldon01.txt

[jbuzbee]

Go back and look at the Top teams in the SEC and you will see that their recruiting record matches their wins and losses.

We need a coach who can recruit with the big boys. We have some of the top facilities in the nation and still can not bring in a top recruiting class.

Thats kind of a "which came first....the chicken or the egg" argument. I also think that to say we are consistently ranked 8 or lower in recruiting in the SEC is false. We usually recruit better than MSU, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy and usually South Carolina. I'm not a huge Houston supporter but he is a decent recruiter....we got him because of it and more specifically for his ability to get the in-state guys....and he usually does; sure a few guys have slipped out but not from lack of trying. My complaint with Nutt is not recruiting....its with playcalling and not wanting to spend a lot of scholarships on defense.

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

We usually recruit better than MSU, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy and usually South Carolina.
You better get rid of Nutt, because this statement wont last long! MSU has Croom, getting better with every game and is recruiting. Ole Miss has Orgeron thats all he's there to do is recruit. Vandy might actually recruit some people this year :eek: and of course SC, forget about out-recruiting us from no on Spurrier main goal now here is recruiting he's gonna be goin all-out and of course we have great brand new facilites ;) Maybe you can out-recruit UK :D

[jbuzbee]

You better get rid of Nutt, because this statement wont last long! MSU has Croom, getting better with every game and is recruiting. Ole Miss has Orgeron thats all he's there to do is recruit. Vandy might actually recruit some people this year :eek: and of course SC, forget about out-recruiting us from no on Spurrier main goal now here is recruiting he's gonna be goin all-out and of course we have great brand new facilites ;) Maybe you can out-recruit UK :D

I don't think Ole Miss and MSU will ever consistently out recruit us.....they have similar problems to us in that they are surrounded with "traditional powers" and they have the added problem of neither of them are even the biggest school in the state (that honor goes to Southern Miss)....that fact alone; barring a few spectacular seasons from each (which don't seem imminent); hinders their recruiting. Vandy is not gonna out recruit anyone because of one "good for vanderbilt" year....UK still sucks for now. And South Carolina will improve in recruiting in the coming years but I see nothing to indicate that its gonna be as significant as most USC fans think (kinda like their record this year). USC is not having a better year than Arkansas is this year....I haven't seen anything to prove to me that Spurrier is gonna turn that program around. Much like I said before the season...Spurrier ain't suiting up and its still South Carolina.

[razorhead]

You better get rid of Nutt, because this statement wont last long! MSU has Croom, getting better with every game and is recruiting. Ole Miss has Orgeron thats all he's there to do is recruit. Vandy might actually recruit some people this year :eek: and of course SC, forget about out-recruiting us from no on Spurrier main goal now here is recruiting he's gonna be goin all-out and of course we have great brand new facilites ;) Maybe you can out-recruit UK :D

Spurrier bailed out on the Redskins when he found out he couldn't win there. Get ready to have your Gamecock heart ripped out again in a year or two.