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cocky4ever
09-02-2005, 11:23 AM
What do you think? I say its pretty obvious they're not. They rushed to the aid of a woman in a PVS, but sat around all week without passing emergency legislation(or even meeting for that matter) to find out a way to get these things under control. Now that this much time has passed without much being done Bush is gonna make a personal trip down there. What is that gonna do?? They dont need the president there, they need food, water, and medical aid. I think the govt. is doing a horrible job of dealing with this situation and its very unfortunate. Its like putting salt in the wound.

OrangeCrush
09-02-2005, 11:37 AM
It is a little hard to judge right now. First of off, they have to restore order to New Orleans. With shots still being fired in the city, it is hard to go back in and start to pick things up. Also, this is the beginning of Hurricaine sytstem. There is a good chance that the Gulf Coast has not seen the end of this deadly weather coming there way. What exactly do you do? Finding places for the refugees to stay and feed them has to be the #1 priority. The FEMA dierector has said that 90% of New Orleans is screwed. You have to consider the possibility of infection in the water. There is so much going on and lots for these people to handle. It does not help that the military is over-seas and would probably be helping more if not busy.

It is a terrible situation and there is no easy solution. As far as Bush being on vacation, it is not like he ever quits being the leader of our country. The only way you think Bush can drop his job and vacation is if he is only a puppet anyways. If that is true, then it does not matter what Bush is doing.

BTW-do not confuse me for a Bush supporter.

BeeDee
09-02-2005, 01:18 PM
What do you think? I say its pretty obvious they're not. They rushed to the aid of a woman in a PVS, but sat around all week without passing emergency legislation(or even meeting for that matter) to find out a way to get these things under control. Now that this much time has passed without much being done Bush is gonna make a personal trip down there. What is that gonna do?? They dont need the president there, they need food, water, and medical aid. I think the govt. is doing a horrible job of dealing with this situation and its very unfortunate. Its like putting salt in the wound.

You know that I respect you and that I agree with most of what you have to say most of the time, but you're not only wrong here, you're making completely ignorant statements. I assure you that the government is working as hard as it can to make things better. Contrary to popular belief, George Bush and company can't just snap their fingers and make this go away. Relief takes time. The water, the food, the equipment for rescue and repair has to have a way to get there. You can only airlift so much in helicopters. The roads are closed. There's nowhere to land transport planes. It takes time to get those corridors open. I can tell you first hand that every available employee of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has been working their collective asses off to make this happen. I have personally put in 18-20 hour days assisting with the organization of the response and the logistics of getting command posts set up. We've sent the Motor Vessel Mississippi, the Motor Vessel Memphis, the Benyuard and several smaller support craft loaded with people, supplies and food to New Orleans since Monday. There's SIMPLY NOT a better way at this point.

I understand that you don't like the current administration and I also understand that you don't have all the details about what is and isn't happening in the relief effort. I further understand that the information that you are getting is coming from the news outlets - who make their money by sensationalizing the situation to make it more interesting and draw more viewers. Those of us busting our asses to help take it as a slap in the face when those of you who are sitting on your asses start pointing your fingers and complaining. If you want to help, get up and go volunteer. We can use you. Stop bitching and get your ass in gear.

cocky4ever
09-02-2005, 01:29 PM
Trust me if I had the time and didnt have to worry about money I would be volunteering my time and effort to causes like this. I do pay taxes, some of which goes into accounts for situations just like this, only to have Clinton and Bush Sr. come on tv and ask for more money. Not that I mind giving donations to causes like this because I do donate. Im not just talking bad about Bush and his administration, I think other politicians should be doing more to help the people they are supposed to be representing. Granted I havent been watching C-SPAN this week because I've been pretty busy, but I dont know of any meetings in Congress or the House addressing this disaster. Yet in a moments notice they can get together and keep a woman on a feeding tube. People like you may be busting your butt to help with this situation and Im grateful for yall's efforts. It just seems to me that if we can get supplies to numerous countries on the other side of the globe as quickly as we did after the tsunami(once we finally decided what we were gonna give) then it cant be too hard to prevent thousands of U.S. citizens from dying in our own streets.

RW13
09-02-2005, 01:29 PM
Whoever put "excellent" needs to reevaluate their life.

ScreamingTiger
09-02-2005, 01:48 PM
Don't be fooled by the media coverage. Suffering & tragedy = ratings. Thousands of our fellow Americans are out there right now helping these people and risking their own lives to save the people who didn't evacuate when they had the chance. The news agencies purposely seek out the worst of the situation. Filming volunteers and guardsmen handing out food and water doesn't keep anyone glued to the TV. Make no mistake these people are in a terrible unfortunate situation but when the light comes on the camera, everyone turns it up a notch.

Sadly it takes a little time to organize and carry out an unprecedented relief effort of this magnitude. It's easy to sit on the sidelines and critique every move they make. Fact is they weren't prepared for a tragedy of this magnitude. No one in their right mind would purposely delay relief to these people. They do need the president there. The media is so slanted. He needs to assess the situation and see for himself first hand what is really going on.

Your damn right I'm a Bush supporter. I'm a proud American and I support our president no matter which party he is affiliated with. I may not agree with every decision or his entire policy but I would never bash or degrade the leader of our country.

BeeDee
09-02-2005, 01:49 PM
Whoever put "excellent" needs to reevaluate their life.

I put excellent and I challenge you to get off your ass and do something to help. If you were here to see what's happening first hand, you'd say the same. Everything that can be done is being done. Progress is being made. Don't be a media sheep and believe the crap that they're feeding you. When you're actually helping to solve the problem, you'll have a right to criticize those of us who are. Until then, you're just another lazy bum. Quit bitching and get off your ass and volunteer.

ScreamingTiger
09-02-2005, 01:53 PM
I voted "Good" because there are a butt load of good people out there doing an outstanding job. Excellent is a stretch. It could always be better. Hopefully it will get much better every day.

BeeDee
09-02-2005, 01:54 PM
Trust me if I had the time and didnt have to worry about money I would be volunteering my time and effort to causes like this. I do pay taxes, some of which goes into accounts for situations just like this, only to have Clinton and Bush Sr. come on tv and ask for more money. Not that I mind giving donations to causes like this because I do donate. Im not just talking bad about Bush and his administration, I think other politicians should be doing more to help the people they are supposed to be representing. Granted I havent been watching C-SPAN this week because I've been pretty busy, but I dont know of any meetings in Congress or the House addressing this disaster. Yet in a moments notice they can get together and keep a woman on a feeding tube. People like you may be busting your butt to help with this situation and Im grateful for yall's efforts. It just seems to me that if we can get supplies to numerous countries on the other side of the globe as quickly as we did after the tsunami(once we finally decided what we were gonna give) then it cant be too hard to prevent thousands of U.S. citizens from dying in our own streets.


Time and money? C'mon, we're talking about human life here. How can you put a price on that? The Congress approved $10.5 billion in aid. They didn't even debate it. They voted and passed it. Period. The help is on the way as fast as it can get there. Imagine trying to cram the entire population of Williams-Brice Stadium down a residental street. Now, multiply that ten fold. That's what's happening trying to get aid to New Orleans. We're bringing in what we can by air, what we can down the river on barges and boats and trucking the rest in as quickly as we can down the blocked and damaged roads. Forget about the fact that a large portion of the gasoline production in this country is done in Louisiana and that production capacity has been completely decimated. Trucks, dozers, helicopters and generators don't run on good will.

GeorgiaPride
09-02-2005, 01:54 PM
BEEDEE -- Very well said reputation points are in order. I also voted excellent!

GeorgiaPride
09-02-2005, 01:58 PM
300,000 dollars and 58 53' tractor trailors are on their way from North Carolina, from people trying to help. (Set up and ran by the Ace and TJ "save the gulf"). Birmingham is still doing food drives and requesting donations to send to NO. On top of the gov. approval for tons of funds.

Spurrierismyhomeboy
09-02-2005, 01:59 PM
The first thing shouldve done was to declare Martial Law let the Police, The National Guard, hell even the Army to bring order and shoot the looters or dumbasses, now its hopeless for a couple of weeks!!!!! I hope that the Govenor of Louisana or any FEMA officials expect to keep their jobs they've done a very crappy job!

GTmorris1970
09-02-2005, 02:11 PM
This is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. The mayor of New Orleans was just on the phone cussing Bush out for doing nothing. Bush himself is outraged at the response plan that was/was not in place. Pathetic. To make matters worse, they still don't know exactly what they are going to do.

GeauxTo
09-02-2005, 02:25 PM
I put excellent and I challenge you to get off your ass and do something to help. If you were here to see what's happening first hand, you'd say the same. Everything that can be done is being done. Progress is being made. Don't be a media sheep and believe the crap that they're feeding you. When you're actually helping to solve the problem, you'll have a right to criticize those of us who are. Until then, you're just another lazy bum. Quit bitching and get off your ass and volunteer.
Amen, BD, amen!!! The media often capitalizes on people's misery, and some of that is happening here. And, as usual, the "Rev" Jesse Jackson is on hand to contribute his asinine thinking. Talk about someone who profits from pain, torment, and suffering and the wretchedness of a situation...
I am witnessing unbelieveable human efforts to help people survive and recover from an unfathomable disaster of catastrophic proportions. You cannot even imagine what complications arise when you try to evacuate a metropolitan area of 1.5 million people and the area is largely impassable. Not easy. The city of Baton Rouge has nearly doubled in size in 4 days; going from a metropolitan area of nearly 500,000 to a metropolitan area of nearly 1,000,000 people. Sick and dying people are filling real hospitals and make-shift hospitals on the LSU campus. Boat loads of people are being turned away from the docks and sent further upriver to Natchez, Vicksburg, and Memphis. Busses have filled Houston's Astrodome and are continuing on to San Antonio, Dallas, and Fort Worth. These are just some aspects of things I am seeing. The response has not been as fast as any of us would want if we were able to wave a magic wand and get the job done. Unfortunately, we have no magic wands, only real, human, heroic people. Leadership, from the President on down, is and has responded well to a disaster that has continued to escalate in unforeseen ways. We should all try to become a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. As BeeDee so aptly put it, don't be media sheep.

GTmorris1970
09-02-2005, 02:33 PM
Amen, BD, amen!!! The media often capitalizes on people's misery, and some of that is happening here. And, as usual, the "Rev" Jesse Jackson is on hand to contribute his asinine thinking. Talk about someone who profits from pain, torment, and suffering and the wretchedness of a situation...
I am witnessing unbelieveable human efforts to help people survive and recover from an unfathomable disaster of catastrophic proportions. You cannot even imagine what complications arise when you try to evacuate a metropolitan area of 1.5 million people and the area is largely impassable. Not easy. The city of Baton Rouge has nearly doubled in size in 4 days; going from a metropolitan area of nearly 500,000 to a metropolitan area of nearly 1,000,000 people. Sick and dying people are filling real hospitals and make-shift hospitals on the LSU campus. Boat loads of people are being turned away from the docks and sent further upriver to Natchez, Vicksburg, and Memphis. Busses have filled Houston's Astrodome and are continuing on to San Antonio, Dallas, and Fort Worth. These are just some aspects of things I am seeing. The response has not been as fast as any of us would want if we were able to wave a magic wand and get the job done. Unfortunately, we have no magic wands, only real, human, heroic people. Leadership, from the President on down, is and has responded well to a disaster that has continued to escalate in unforeseen ways. We should all try to become a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem. As BeeDee so aptly put it, don't be media sheep.

Then why has Bush been on TV all day saying he is not happy with the lack of plans in place, and why is the mayor of New Orleans cussing him out on a telephone interview? No, nobody expects a magic wand. What we expect is a contingency plan in place BEFORE something like this happens, not afterwards. It was almost two days after the fact before the National Guard here was even dispatched. My wife and I are sending 1,000 to help, and she is considering going to help as a nurse, but there was NO plan in place for this, even though it has been known for years that Louisiana could suffer something like this. The Homeland Security dudes arse is grass. Bush pretty much said so today. They are not seeing eye to eye at all right now. The mayor was saying an hour or so ago that he was promised 40,000 people in there to help. Said he is still waiting on them, while his people are thirsting and starving to death. We are 4 days in now. :cool:

ScreamingTiger
09-02-2005, 02:42 PM
I aplaud your efforts GT but don't believe everything the media feeds you. Its like the War coverage. The positive efforts get about 1% of the media coverage.

The mayor of New Orleans is in panic mode now and the media is feeding off it.

GTmorris1970
09-02-2005, 02:45 PM
I aplaud your efforts GT but don't believe everything the media feeds you. Its like the War coverage. The positive efforts get about 1% of the media coverage.

The mayor of New Orleans is in panic mode now and the media is feeding off it.

He and Bush are both unhappy. That is all I know. I actually believe little of what I hear through the media. There is a reason he is in panic mode. His people are dying.

GeauxTo
09-02-2005, 02:49 PM
He and Bush are both unhappy. That is all I know. I actually believe little of what I hear through the media. There is a reason he is in panic mode. His people are dying.
No, GT... OUR people are dying; your's and mine.

GTmorris1970
09-02-2005, 03:05 PM
No, GT... OUR people are dying; your's and mine.

Very true. That is why my wife and I are trying to help. :)

fernandomike
09-02-2005, 03:15 PM
BeeDee, I know that Cocky's criticism is not a criticism of you or the many people like yourself who are providing an invaluable service to our country. Believe me, even those who think that not enough is being done or that what is being done moved too slowly, greatly appreciate the tireless effort of those involved. Our hearts ache for the people harmed by this tragedy. It is comforting to know that compassionate people like yourself are on the ground transporting victims to safety, delivering food and water, restoring order, etc.
I think that it is neither unpatriotic nor should it be disparaging to those providing aid for some to wonder whether or not there was an effective plan in place. Was the government proactive? Were the threats taken seriously and the worst possible scenario and its consequences examined? You know the answers to these questions much better than I and many others here do. Trust me, I am not playing a blame game. I want what you want and what Cocky wants and that is for those in dire need of emergency services to receive them as quickly as is possible. We all know that you are doing your part.

GeauxTo
09-02-2005, 03:41 PM
BeeDee, I know that Cocky's criticism is not a criticism of you or the many people like yourself who are providing an invaluable service to our country. Believe me, even those who think that not enough is being done or that what is being done moved too slowly, greatly appreciate the tireless effort of those involved. Our hearts ache for the people harmed by this tragedy. It is comforting to know that compassionate people like yourself are on the ground transporting victims to safety, delivering food and water, restoring order, etc.
I think that it is neither unpatriotic nor should it be disparaging to those providing aid for some to wonder whether or not there was an effective plan in place. Was the government proactive? Were the threats taken seriously and the worst possible scenario and its consequences examined? You know the answers to these questions much better than I and many others here do. Trust me, I am not playing a blame game. I want what you want and what Cocky wants and that is for those in dire need of emergency services to receive them as quickly as is possible. We all know that you are doing your part.Having lived in hurricane country all my life and experiencing many hurricanes, you must realize that people in these hurricane-prone areas have played "crying wolf" for many years. When several hurricane seasons go by when you've heard predictions and evacuated and found out nothing drastic happened, you unfortunately get too casual about the danger. Some of that, I am sure, was in play here. Residents of New Orleans have heard about the "big one" and its potential for years, but, because they did not experience a bad hurricane, they became somewhat lackadaisical about the danger. Fats Domino has lived in New Orleans all his life and his manager begged him to leave this time, but he didn't. He ended up safe, but the point is that his refusal to leave may have been emulated by many who could have gone. Many, as we have been told lots of times (by the media), had no real resources for evacuation. Not exactly true. The mayor sent busses into such neighborhoods Friday and Saturday to take people out, but many would not leave. "Crying wolf" was in play, I am sure. Just like in Los Angeles; they live where the San Andreas Fault is said to have the potential for "a big one" that will devastate the area, but not many people are getting out. Also, in New Orleans, the levees had never failed before. If you're 18-60 years old, it has never happened, so, you become resolved to thinking that the levees are safe. The point is that this huge tragedy has many aspects. No one expected so many people to stay. No one expected the levees to fail. No one expected the hoodlums to erupt into animalistic behavior. No one is to blame and it is everyone's problem to resolve. We all want to save lives and end the misery. And in the long term, the entire nation is beginning to realize how Louisiana and the port of New Orleans is an enormous reality in the well-being of the Nation's economy. The city must be rebuilt, and it will. People who have had to leave need realistic solutions for getting on with their lives; schools for their children, jobs for themselves, and housing for their families. The job to be done is so enormous that it seems almost an impossibility, but the United States specializes in achieving tasks which appear daunting and impossible. Perhaps we should refrain from being "Monday Morning Quarterbacks" and find ways to look to the future with a positive attitude.

BeeDee
09-02-2005, 03:43 PM
Oh, one more thing. BeeDee comes in making charges at others to get off their arse and go help. Just curious why he is sitting at a computer. I didn't figure the internet was up in New Orleans right now.
Dude, you obviously don't have a freaking clue. I've been working 18-20 hour days since this thing started. I've gotten a break this afternoon to get some rest. I've been tasked with setting up a command post for the New Orleans District of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers here at our district office in Vicksburg for 150 relocated Corps employees who are running the logistics for our soldiers and civilians who are attempting to repair the levees and drain the city. I've helped load three 18 wheeler loads of generators, water, food, toilet paper, paper towels and medical supplies that have gone to New Orleans. I leave here on Sunday evening to go to Gulfport Mississippi where I will be setting up an Emergency Response Command Center at either the Coastal Reserve Training Center or the Mississippi Gulf Coast Coliseum (depends on which is better suited and least damaged) to assist in the recovery there - I'll be there in the heat and the weather with none of the conveniences that YOU will have while you're sitting on your ass talking smack about the efforts being made - and I'll be there for 4-6 weeks as of the current estimate. I'm doing my part. What the hell are YOU doing other than criticizing those of us that are busting our asses?

ScreamingTiger
09-02-2005, 04:00 PM
Very well said GeauxTo & BeeDee

GTmorris1970
09-02-2005, 04:11 PM
Dude, you obviously don't have a freaking clue. I've been working 18-20 hour days since this thing started. I've gotten a break this afternoon to get some rest. I've been tasked with setting up a command post for the New Orleans District of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers here at our district office in Vicksburg for 150 relocated Corps employees who are running the logistics for our soldiers and civilians who are attempting to repair the levees and drain the city. I've helped load three 18 wheeler loads of generators, water, food, toilet paper, paper towels and medical supplies that have gone to New Orleans. I leave here on Sunday evening to go to Gulfport Mississippi where I will be setting up an Emergency Response Command Center at either the Coastal Reserve Training Center or the Mississippi Gulf Coast Coliseum (depends on which is better suited and least damaged) to assist in the recovery there - I'll be there in the heat and the weather with none of the conveniences that YOU will have while you're sitting on your ass talking smack about the efforts being made - and I'll be there for 4-6 weeks as of the current estimate. I'm doing my part. What the hell are YOU doing other than criticizing those of us that are busting our asses?

I deleted that post if you will notice. I have sent money that I didn't have to send to help. That is what I have done. I am not wealthy, and cannot just up and leave and go help. If I could, I would. My wife is perhaps going soon to help in the relief efforts. She is a nurse. I apologize for my comment. That is why I deleted the post. Good luck to all of you, and thanks for helping. :)

AuburnandGamecockGirl
09-02-2005, 04:29 PM
I am embarrassed by the American people who are shooting at rescue people, looting, and acting like fools. It makes me want to go there and give them a piece of my mind (being a teacher, I am used to giving folks acting like fools a piece of my mind)! I agree that it could be better...just about everything in the world can use some room for improvement...but we could do a hell of a lot more if our rescuers didn't have to worry about security and their lives being in danger.

Another thing...our government needs to stop pointing fingers at each other and band together to help each other. A whole lot more would get done if folks would work together.

GamecocksRule
09-02-2005, 05:30 PM
Another thing...our government needs to stop pointing fingers at each other and band together to help each other. A whole lot more would get done if folks would work together.
I agree. Lets look at the real seriousness of this catastrophe...people are starving..people are dehydrated..people are dying..people are homeless in the gulf area. It is truly horrific what this hurricane has done to this region of our country and if we don't come together to help instead of "hurt" the already stressful and terrible situation we will not get anywhere.

RW13
09-02-2005, 06:06 PM
Dude, you obviously don't have a freaking clue. I've been working 18-20 hour days since this thing started. I've gotten a break this afternoon to get some rest. I've been tasked with setting up a command post for the New Orleans District of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers here at our district office in Vicksburg for 150 relocated Corps employees who are running the logistics for our soldiers and civilians who are attempting to repair the levees and drain the city. I've helped load three 18 wheeler loads of generators, water, food, toilet paper, paper towels and medical supplies that have gone to New Orleans. I leave here on Sunday evening to go to Gulfport Mississippi where I will be setting up an Emergency Response Command Center at either the Coastal Reserve Training Center or the Mississippi Gulf Coast Coliseum (depends on which is better suited and least damaged) to assist in the recovery there - I'll be there in the heat and the weather with none of the conveniences that YOU will have while you're sitting on your ass talking smack about the efforts being made - and I'll be there for 4-6 weeks as of the current estimate. I'm doing my part. What the hell are YOU doing other than criticizing those of us that are busting our asses?

You got a PM in the mailbox, I'm glad you're the only person in the U.S. who is doing anything to help.

AuburnandGamecockGirl
09-02-2005, 06:12 PM
My husband and I are going shopping tomorrow to buy toys, snacks, blankets, toiletries, etc. for our local shelter that has been set up in Lagrange, GA for evacuees. Check with your local chamber of commerce to see if there are shelters nearby that you can take items to or give donations to. Even if you don't have extra money to give, I am sure there are things around your house that you could give to the local charities (Salvation Army, etc.).

BeeDee
09-02-2005, 09:53 PM
You got a PM in the mailbox, I'm glad you're the only person in the U.S. who is doing anything to help.

And the private message (redacted so as not to break the rules)

F*** You and the horse you're on. I already donated 30 bucks online. My roomate and I did a canned food drive at our apartment building and the neighboring building. We dropped the boxes off at a local baptist church who is gonna get it down there and tomorrow my girlfriend and I are going to the church to load up the trucks. I'm doing whatever I can on a college budget and 5 states away. My girlfriends family is also offering to host 2 familes and her dad can offer them work for up to 6 months in his business. So don't get on my ass, the fact is the federal gov't failed and ppl died, it's great that ppl are being helped now, but there is no excuse for ppl dying of dehydration, sorry, no excuse for death like that, live with that, and if you're working so hard don't play on the computer all day. F*** You, I'm doing what I can too.

How eloquent. I'll bet that your English teacher and your parents are proud that you're so adept at expressing yourself. Contrary to your statements above, Uncle Sam is not your keeper. George Bush is not responsible for you, your welfare of your well being. The Federal Government is doing all that it can to help. Relief takes time to organize. You, on the other hand, want to give $30 and some DelMonte Green Beans and say that you're doing what you can? Get real. Sure, you're doing SOMETHING, but you can do so much more. Go talk to the Red Cross or USACE. Donate your time - that won't cost you anything. Go down and help with debris removal. Take the time that YOU are spending playing on the computer and make a real difference. I challenge you to do it.

American Red Cross Volunteer Services (http://www.redcross.org/services/volunteer/0,1082,0_325_,00.html)

US Army Corps of Engineers Volunteer Information (http://www.mvd.usace.army.mil/hurricane/hotlinks.htm)


As for this piece of drivel, :"if you're working so hard don't play on the computer all day", you have no clue either. If an hour this afternoon and a few minutes this evening (out of the 122 hours that I've worked this week already, not counting what I'll work tomorrow and Sunday and for the next six weeks as I'm on site) constitutes "all day" to you, then that explains why you're doing so little yet feeling so good about yourself. I've worked more hours this week than you likely have in the past month or more - and every one of my hours this week has been in support of this disaster. Guaranteed. Everyone needs and gets a break now and then - I just happened to use mine to grab a sandwich and check the boards.

OrangeCrush
09-02-2005, 11:35 PM
You got a PM in the mailbox, I'm glad you're the only person in the U.S. who is doing anything to help.

A person takes the time and effort to help a bunch of people and you feel the need to be an @#%^#^*&@ about it. Very impressive

RW13
09-03-2005, 11:24 AM
A person takes the time and effort to help a bunch of people and you feel the need to be an @#%^#^*&@ about it. Very impressive

No, he takes the time and effort to get on here and criticize anyone who isn't doing the same thing he's doing. Others of us are helping, yet we're not with BeeDee so we're worthless....

RW13
09-03-2005, 11:43 AM
My husband and I are going shopping tomorrow to buy toys, snacks, blankets, toiletries, etc. for our local shelter that has been set up in Lagrange, GA for evacuees. Check with your local chamber of commerce to see if there are shelters nearby that you can take items to or give donations to. Even if you don't have extra money to give, I am sure there are things around your house that you could give to the local charities (Salvation Army, etc.).
Isn't this helping too? I'm glad there are people like you AuburnGirl...

GAMECOCK_FAN
09-03-2005, 12:20 PM
I've been reading through this thread since it started, and I really can't understand the hostility involved in some of these posts. I commend BeeDee for all that he is doing. However, I also commend everyone else for doing the things they are doing, for no matter how little or how much you are doing, it's bound to be helping. Personally, I have donated money, as well as bought supplies (e.g., water, food, paper towels, toilet paper, etc.) trying to help. Our church has advertised to the community that we are collecting goods and loading a tractor trailer at our church to take to the hurricane victims. I was there for several hours last night manning the trailer and collecting the items brought from our community (and loading and packing the trailer with the supplies). I will continue to do this, until our trailer is full and hauled to those who need the supplies. Do I want a "pat on the back?" Heck no, because I don't deserve it. My Christian belief teaches me I should be helping those less fortunate than me, since that was what Jesus would do. Am I doing enough? Probably not (and you could say a resounding NO), but I will continue to do what I can around my work hours, family obligations, etc. All I'm trying to say is that each person should do what they can and what they feel they are being led to do, and understand that every little bit helps. Don't think that what you do doesn't make a difference, because I believe every little bit makes a difference (if you're a Christian, recall Jesus feeding the 5,000 with just one little boy's gift).

That's my $0.02 worth on this thread, and I hope and pray that I haven't stepped on any toes.

BeeDee
09-03-2005, 04:00 PM
No, he takes the time and effort to get on here and criticize anyone who isn't doing the same thing he's doing. Others of us are helping, yet we're not with BeeDee so we're worthless....


My point is that you're not helping by criticizing the effort. I'm thankful for those that are helping. Those of you that are critical of the effort are the part of the problem, not the solution - even if you have donated your whopping $30 and your canned veggies. You should spend your time helping, not bitching that the help that is being given isn't adequate or to your liking.

P.S. Everyone that's not with me isn't worthless, just you in particular :D

RW13
09-03-2005, 04:02 PM
huh huh, cool....

Chris
09-03-2005, 10:45 PM
This thread is closed. It is not accomplishing anything helpful to the victims of this tragedy nor anything to this sites mission.

If you have it in your heart and/or budget visit here to donate to the Red Cross:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=96662