Republican Party Full of Pedophiles??!!!?!

[cocky4ever]

:eek: :eek: http://www.armchairsubversive.com/ :eek: :eek:

[GeauxTo]

:eek: :eek: http://www.armchairsubversive.com/ :eek: :eek:

FLASH!

Democratic President Bill Clinton received oral sex in the oval office from a young intern prior to probing her genitillia with a cigar.
Democratic President John Kennedy screwed everything that didn't screw him first.
Democratic hopefull Teddy Kennedy linked to sex-related disasters that included death and rape.
Democratic President Theodore Roosevelt had a mistress the entire time that he was in the White House.
And on, and on, and on...

And your point is???
:p

[cocky4ever]

FLASH!

Democratic President Bill Clinton received oral sex in the oval office from a young intern prior to probing her genitillia with a cigar.
Democratic President John Kennedy screwed everything that didn't screw him first.
Democratic hopefull Teddy Kennedy linked to sex-related disasters that included death and rape.
Democratic President Theodore Roosevelt had a mistress the entire time that he was in the White House.
And on, and on, and on...

And your point is???
:p
Well, I would say that the things listed on that site are far worse than any of those actions of Democratics you named with the exception of Ted Kennedy. I didnt really have a point, I just thought it was kinda interesting and wanted to point it out since a lot of people seem to look at the Republican party as the more wholesome of the two parties. I just get tired of hearing how evil the Democratic party and liberals are when there are PLENTY of Republican and/or conservatives who do horrible things.

[ColonelKurtz]

Well, I would say that the things listed on that site are far worse than any of those actions of Democratics you named with the exception of Ted Kennedy. I didnt really have a point, I just thought it was kinda interesting and wanted to point it out since a lot of people seem to look at the Republican party as the more wholesome of the two parties. I just get tired of hearing how evil the Democratic party and liberals are when there are PLENTY of Republican and/or conservatives who do horrible things.

Neither party is some beacon of Light nor without the frailities of human kind. That said, digging up such dirt does not support nor validate the ideological difficulties facing those holding the liberal mantra.

At the core is the belief that the State is the sole authority on all matters social or individual. This is contrary not only to our Constitution, but it runs against the one aspect of our flawed humanity which has allowed it to prosper: individual and independent pursuit of thought. Automatonic efficiency is good for a factory but it has proven time and time again to be detrimental to societal progress and/or benefit.

You may hold that belief and may not like reading others taking issue with it, but that would evidence the fact that you are not fully cognizant of the baser issues which inspire their dissent. It may well be that you are not capable of comprehending the fact that the cure for many of our current issues is LESS interference from the State, for it has been its' overbarence which created them to begin with.

It is the war over how best to put some of the genie back into the bottle which will mark the greatest battle of this Century and one which may well determine how much longer there is a Republic at all.

[cocky4ever]

If thats the case then why is there a very large republican/conservative grip on all aspects of the govt. while more and more rights of the citizens are being taken away? I dont label myself as liberal,democrat,conservative,republican,etc. I look at each issue and decide for myself. That being said I think that by reading my posts on this forum people can see that I am completely against having the govt. tell people what they can and cant do, at least as long as there is no victim involved. I dont think there should be strict gun laws, I think anything that grows in the Earth should be legal, I think that if two people of the same sex want to get married(or have a civil union, whatever wording makes you feel better) then they should be able to,etc. There has to be some kind of a system or else there would be anarchy, but I dont think the citizens should have to depend on the system to function. Anyway...back to the point: To suggest that the democrats and some liberal groups are the only ones pushing for a stronger, more intrusive central govt. is a completely false suggestion.

[fernandomike]

So Democrats are against "individual and independent pursuit of thought" and Republicans are for it? Who told you that, G. Gordon Liddy? You might want to take note of the Christian Coalition and the vast influence that they wield over the Republican party. These people subscribe to a particularly NON-individual and NON-independent mode of thinking. I won't even bother to get into the notion of censorship as I am sure that it is clear that it is primarily conservatives who tend to tell us what we should or should not watch, read, etc.
Despite the constant claims of some on this board, there is little to distinguish the two parties. As you yourself have noted, the so-called fiscal conservatism that all expected would arrive with the overwhelming victories for the Republicans instead carried with it the overpowering scent of bacon.

[cocky4ever]

So Democrats are against "individual and independent pursuit of thought" and Republicans are for it? Who told you that, G. Gordon Liddy? You might want to take note of the Christian Coalition and the vast influence that they wield over the Republican party. These people subscribe to a particularly NON-individual and NON-independent mode of thinking. I won't even bother to get into the notion of censorship as I am sure that it is clear that it is primarily conservatives who tend to tell us what we should or should not watch, read, etc.
Despite the constant claims of some on this board, there is little to distinguish the two parties. As you yourself have noted, the so-called fiscal conservatism that all expected would arrive with the overwhelming victories for the Republicans instead carried with it the overpowering scent of bacon.
Great minds think alike, they just word things differently sometimes ;) I will say though that I like your post better than mine. :)

[OrangeCrush]

Despite the constant claims of some on this board, there is little to distinguish the two parties. As you yourself have noted, the so-called fiscal conservatism that all expected would arrive with the overwhelming victories for the Republicans instead carried with it the overpowering scent of bacon.

I'll give whoever created that site credit, they are playing Rove politics against the Republicans. Spread the hate of your enemy everywhere, so the people can see how terrible they are. This is not a defense of the repubs listed on that site. I do not think anyone with a fair mind would come to their defense. It is more about how the two parties attack each other and it gets harder and louder each time. I'm sure if we went up and down the list of people who list themselves as democrats, we could find people who are less than worthy of being a political officier.

Why do something about making the world a better place, when you can spew hate and make claims against your enemy to save your job. Americain politics at its finest.

[Cianne]

I'm sure if we went up and down the list of people who list themselves as democrats, we could find people who are less than worthy of being a political officier.

NAMBLA ! Very icky

[JerryBeeds]

Let's not forget about Barney Frank who has a live-in male prostitute...

[JerryBeeds]

Also, I kind of take offense to the name of this thread. I consider myself to be a republican and so do many others. I don't really appreciate being called a pedophile. Couldn't you have said something more along the lines of "Elected Republican's who are pedophiles". Just my .02....

[cocky4ever]

Just so that no one gets the wrong idea about me hating on all republicans or supporting democrats I want to say this: I think that both political parties are just big corporations with different financial interest. There are some democrats I like and there are some republicans I like. There are a lot of democrats I dont like and a lot of republicans I dont like. I guess looking back the name of this thread could've been a little misleading as to my intentions of it. I wasnt trying to attack all republicans or justify any of the wrongs committed by democrats. I was just tired of hearing about all the evils of democrats and/or liberals as if the other side was some great party of integrity and morals. Both sides have done plenty of bad things. Anyone who acts like they are on one side looking down at the other has plenty of things going on within their own party that makes them incapable of justifiably pointing the finger at the other. In no way am I supporting democrats or liberals, just pointing out that to assume that the party anyone supports whole-heartedly is without their own skeletons in the closet is being completely naive. I dont judge people based on titles. I listen to what they have to say and decide for myself how much I agree with them. Like I said there are democrats,liberals,conservatives,republicans, that I have listened to who have all made good points. I dont fully support any group, but to listen to someone who does point fingers like they are better than the other is something that seems completely naive to me, and is the main reason I created this thread in the 1st place.

[cocky4ever]

Also, I kind of take offense to the name of this thread. I consider myself to be a republican and so do many others. I don't really appreciate being called a pedophile. Couldn't you have said something more along the lines of "Elected Republican's who are pedophiles". Just my .02....
I guess I noticed the way the title would come off about the same time you decided you had a problem with it. I was working on my previous thread the same time you were stating you had a problem with the title. No offense intended to any republican.

[JerryBeeds]

It's cool. No worries. I was just taken aback a little by the "Republican party full of pedophiles" thing. That list you posted is quite disturbing. I had no idea there were that many weirdos who were getting elected. I'm certainly ashamed of those people.

[Neo]

No offense here.....


<~~ Card carrying registered Libertarian. :cool:

[HSVTider]

I'll come straight out and say it. The "Liberalism" that has been sweeping our country since Carter is a cancer. I see and hear people everyday complain about the war and Iraq and I've even heard a lot of folks say they'd leave the country if we were to start a draft.

Many "liberals" (many of whom are self proclaimed democrats) love to hide behind all of the rights that they say they are expressing, but they won't dare go fight to preserve them. They'd rather leave that to the "Republicans". If you don't want to fight to preserve those Bill of Rights, and you can't understand why we do things like Iraq, then move your ass to France. You'll fit right in. While you're there remind them that if it wasn't for us, they'd be speaking German.

I know that was a bit off topic, but someone brought up the differences between the two parties and I got on my soap box.

Just my .02.

[fernandomike]

One of the great deceptions that the Republican party has pulled is covering the entire Democratic party under the blanket of liberalism. I typically vote democrat, but I am no fan of liberals. The Democrats have attempted to do the same, but have not been nearly as effective at making the word conservative a bad word.
I think that Cocky's point was more about the parties themselves and not about the more extreme elements within them. It seems that the religious right uses coercive methods by explaining to worshippers that it is their Christian duty to vote Republican. The exit polls leave no doubt that this gave W a second term. I am sorry, but I seriously doubt that the actions of either party are sanctioned by God. Instead, they owe allegiance to whatever special interest groups get them into office.
Most people seem to agree that our immigration policy needs to be adjusted, but neither party is eager to do so. That is because they will lose the votes of the ever-growing hispanic community. We know that terrorists can easily cross along with the rest of the immigrants, but our national security is deemed secondary to our elected officials political survival. Since they both have re-election and power as their primary goals, the parties are a lot more alike than different. Its not good versus evil as some would have us believe.

[HSVTider]

One of the great deceptions that the Republican party has pulled is covering the entire Democratic party under the blanket of liberalism. I typically vote democrat, but I am no fan of liberals. The Democrats have attempted to do the same, but have not been nearly as effective at making the word conservative a bad word.
I think that Cocky's point was more about the parties themselves and not about the more extreme elements within them. It seems that the religious right uses coercive methods by explaining to worshippers that it is their Christian duty to vote Republican. The exit polls leave no doubt that this gave W a second term. I am sorry, but I seriously doubt that the actions of either party are sanctioned by God. Instead, they owe allegiance to whatever special interest groups get them into office.
Most people seem to agree that our immigration policy needs to be adjusted, but neither party is eager to do so. That is because they will lose the votes of the ever-growing hispanic community. We know that terrorists can easily cross along with the rest of the immigrants, but our national security is deemed secondary to our elected officials political survival. Since they both have re-election and power as their primary goals, the parties are a lot more alike than different. Its not good versus evil as some would have us believe.

I don't disagree with you that's why I said '"liberals" (many of whom are self proclaimed democrats)' and 'They'd rather leave that to the "Republicans". '

I know that there are many people with beliefs that cross party lines. However, most of the liberal meda (CNN) paints the Republicans to be largely "ultra-conservative" and the conservative media (FoxNews) paints the democrats to largely "ultra-liberal" which, neither, is the case. However, there is a disposition of belief, regarding the people that I was talking about, being in the democratic party and a lot of the time they are even further left.

[SilverBritches]

No offense here.....


<~~ Card carrying registered Libertarian. :cool:

I thought you said you proudly voted for Bush in another thread. Maybe that was someone else.

[ColonelKurtz]

Ok, it is very obvious that many here don't clearly understand the ideological slant I was trying to get at. Attempting to label everything is your first error, for some of my closest friends are admitted Democrats yet they share my ideology.

With regards to Conservatism & Liberalism, one must again divorce all this party and media inspired hoopla to get to the brass facts. One can indeed share both yet still have room for something else in their bag for there is no set rule confining you from making you own choice. Many here have posted that they aren't bound to either of the two parties nor are they totally Conservative or Liberal and that is very refreshing. I don't hold my finger in the air nor do I wait to find out what another thinks when deciding something and as more Americans do the same, the power of the unafiliated voter becomes very ominous to the two parties, for angering that which they cannot identify is a powerful force.

The Ideological war I mentioned references what I envision as the coming factionalism which will finally break the two party stranglehold on American politics. Within both parties are groups that are there only because without affiliating with a big boy would they have any voice at all and one or more of them could make the split, but I'm betting on the Independents who now are the majority block yet have no clear champions in Congress or in the States. The more diverse our population becomes, the greater likelihood that this occurs.

[SeattleGamecocks]

I knew Jim West would be on there. The guy fights for anti gay legislation and what do you know; he likes teen boys. Fry him and all pedophiles. Its worse than murder.

Power, in this case political power, seems to go hand in hand, maybe even breed sexual prowess. Throughout history. Most of our country's founding fathers had mistresses. My theory, and its only a theory, would be that dems just go ahead & cheat on their wives- hey they were never taking the high road anyway, right? But the republicans mentioned on that site are held to a higher standard, after all "moral values" is a major platform of the party. So, like Catholic priests who cannot be known to have sexual relations, they prey on children who probably won't tell anyone. Just a theory fwiw.

[Neo]

I thought you said you proudly voted for Bush in another thread. Maybe that was someone else.


I did vote for Bush in this last election. :cool:

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

In the words of Chris Farley "Thats sad", but I will concede I will undoubtly vote GOP next political election whether for Mccain or Gulliani. Especially if the ball-buster herself Hillary runs! :D