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scfan5338
07-22-2005, 09:42 AM
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/sec/2005_Previews/SouthCarolina_Preview.htm

2005 Schedule
CFN Prediction: 5-6
Preview 2005 predicted wins
9/3 UCF W
9/10 at Georgia L
9/17 Alabama L
9/24 Troy W
10/1 at Auburn L
10/8 Kentucky W
10/22 Vanderbilt W
10/29 at Tennessee L
11/5 at Arkansas L
11/12 Florida W
11/19 Clemson L


I think that a bunch of crap that they predit we are going to have a 5-6 year. I told a couple of my friends this and they said that CFN is one of the least accurate sites around. How do they have us losing to Arkansas? I mean come on. We beat them with Matt Jones. Now that they dont have Matt Jones I think we are going to beat them. And I also think that Alabama and Clemson game could be toss ups. Also CFN has USC going 7-4 last year with a win against Georgia. What made them think that we could beat Georgia last year? I think we have a better chance at beating Georgia this year than we did last year. This year they dont have David Greene, David Pollack, Fred Gibson, and the Other receivers. They lost a lot of their talent on the offensive side of the ball. I don't see how they have use losing to them either. I mean if they has us beating them last year than they should have us beating them this year as well.

OmahaBound
07-22-2005, 09:53 AM
5-6 is possible, but there's no way florida is more winnable than georgia, bama, auburn, arkansas, or clemson. i think we'll win one of georgia and bama, and we'll win at least one of that other group of 4. i've said 6-5 all along and i'm sticking to it. if i'm wrong and we do better then i certainly won't complain, hehe.

Cianne
07-22-2005, 09:54 AM
SC will go 5-6 or 6-5 depending on how much the team wants it down the stretch and judging by their actions during the summer, 5-6 is more likely at this point. I'd flip flop the Florida and Arkansas games for sure on that schedule but everything else is a pretty good possibility, especially Clemson depending on what Whitehurst is showing up for the game, 2003 or 2004.

TrueGCFan
07-22-2005, 10:13 AM
Cianne I agree and disagree with you. There is a chance SC will go 5-6, but I seriously doubt it. We have enough talent and if things fall our way we *COULD* go 8-3. The key word there is *COULD*. I seriously doubt this number too. Here is how I think the season will break down.

2005 Schedule
9/3 UCF W
9/10 at Georgia Toss Up (50-50)
9/17 Alabama Toss Up (More likely a win than loss, but very close)
9/24 Troy W
10/1 at Auburn Toss up (More likely a loss)
10/8 Kentucky W
10/22 Vanderbilt W
10/29 at Tennessee L
11/5 at Arkansas W (Not a definite, but a good hard fought game we should win)
11/12 Florida L
11/19 Clemson Toss Up (50-50)

I predict 7-4.

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 10:23 AM
Cianne I agree and disagree with you. There is a chance SC will go 5-6, but I seriously doubt it. We have enough talent and if things fall our way we *COULD* go 8-3. The key word there is *COULD*. I seriously doubt this number too. Here is how I think the season will break down.

2005 Schedule
9/3 UCF W
9/10 at Georgia Toss Up (50-50)
9/17 Alabama Toss Up (More likely a win than loss, but very close)
9/24 Troy W
10/1 at Auburn Toss up (More likely a loss)
10/8 Kentucky W
10/22 Vanderbilt W
10/29 at Tennessee L
11/5 at Arkansas W (Not a definite, but a good hard fought game we should win)
11/12 Florida L
11/19 Clemson Toss Up (50-50)

I predict 7-4.

Amen brotha!! I agree with just about everything you have there. :cool:

Jay_Lupo
07-22-2005, 10:29 AM
I'm just telling ya'll right now, you guys will lose in Fayetteville. We did lose Matt, but we return 17 starters this year. Arkansas will not be nearly as bad as everyone thinks it will be and will no doubt be a better team than last year when only 6 starters returned (1 on offense). Unless you have an awesome run defense, you're going to have a lot of problems stopping the Hogs' offense. With that said, I don't think there's much of a chance USC finishes 5-6. I think the Cocks will win 6 and if you throw in a big upset, 7 is possible. Regardless, one of the 6 or 7 will not be Arkansas.

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 10:54 AM
I'm just telling ya'll right now, you guys will lose in Fayetteville. We did lose Matt, but we return 17 starters this year. Arkansas will not be nearly as bad as everyone thinks it will be and will no doubt be a better team than last year when only 6 starters returned (1 on offense). Unless you have an awesome run defense, you're going to have a lot of problems stopping the Hogs' offense. With that said, I don't think there's much of a chance USC finishes 5-6. I think the Cocks will win 6 and if you throw in a big upset, 7 is possible. Regardless, one of the 6 or 7 will not be Arkansas.

We will all see soon enough want we? :cool:

rabidcock
07-22-2005, 11:38 AM
We will all see soon enough want we? :cool:

All the aforementioned arguments are plausable and with merit. That's the great thing about the season---you have to PLAY those games and await the outcome of each in its turn.

It should be interesting to see WHO among us has the banner year.

Jay_Lupo
07-22-2005, 11:53 AM
We will all see soon enough want we? :cool:

Haha, we will GT. That was not meant as a diss by any means. That's just my feeling. I don't think Arkansas is better than USC. I don't think Ole Miss is better than Arkansas, but I still think we'll lose in Oxford this season. As for the "banner years", I don't see either of us having one of those. My predictions for both teams have been 6-5, and I'll stick to that. But this wasn't a diss. I like USC and certainly think things are on the up for you boys. See you in da ville.

fernandomike
07-22-2005, 01:34 PM
I initially had USC pegged for a 7-4 season, but realistically that number needs to be revised down to 6-5 considering all the dismissals and other issues that the Gamecocks have faced this off-season.
For one, the game in Athens does not look like a 50/50 type game to me. UGA has stockpiled talent even if much of it hasn't yet seen the field. Both teams have quarterback concerns, but the Dawgs have more to fall back on if Shockley doesn't play well. There is little doubt that both teams will be strong defensively, but it may take Spurrier awhile to get his intricate passing game in sync. UGA won't have that problem as they will rely heavily on their offensive line and running game to beat teams.
Bama is a more likely 50/50 proposition. They have excellent starting talent and if they stay healthy you could see them as a sleeper in the league this season. But, they need for Croyle, Darby, and the offensive line all to avoid injuries and that is a longshot. The problem for USC is that they play the Tide in the third game of the season and Bama might not be very banged up. I think that it will be a defensive struggle with the Tide pulling out a narrow victory. The Gamecocks have to advantage of Spurrier and the game being at home, but the Tide has received nothing but good news this off-season with key players healing and a lack of off-field incidents.

pc72687
07-22-2005, 02:41 PM
The off field incidents really affected the team little or none at all. I am not sure how many times we are going to have to say that besides Demitrius and Moe we lost a bunch of third teamers. The Sanctions will affect this years team none as far as talent is concerned, the only way it will affect his years team is if we get a bowl ban! So really none of the extra cirriculars have an effect on this years team. Now next year, who knows, losing some scholarships and visits will affect them.

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 03:31 PM
I initially had USC pegged for a 7-4 season, but realistically that number needs to be revised down to 6-5 considering all the dismissals and other issues that the Gamecocks have faced this off-season.
For one, the game in Athens does not look like a 50/50 type game to me. UGA has stockpiled talent even if much of it hasn't yet seen the field. Both teams have quarterback concerns, but the Dawgs have more to fall back on if Shockley doesn't play well. There is little doubt that both teams will be strong defensively, but it may take Spurrier awhile to get his intricate passing game in sync. UGA won't have that problem as they will rely heavily on their offensive line and running game to beat teams.
Bama is a more likely 50/50 proposition. They have excellent starting talent and if they stay healthy you could see them as a sleeper in the league this season. But, they need for Croyle, Darby, and the offensive line all to avoid injuries and that is a longshot. The problem for USC is that they play the Tide in the third game of the season and Bama might not be very banged up. I think that it will be a defensive struggle with the Tide pulling out a narrow victory. The Gamecocks have to advantage of Spurrier and the game being at home, but the Tide has received nothing but good news this off-season with key players healing and a lack of off-field incidents.

I still believe 7-4 is possible, it's certainly going to be a little harder to get there now however. If we can win at least one between UGA and Bama to start the year, hopefully that will give us a little boost. If we lose both however, I believe things could turn ugly.

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 03:32 PM
Haha, we will GT. That was not meant as a diss by any means. That's just my feeling. I don't think Arkansas is better than USC. I don't think Ole Miss is better than Arkansas, but I still think we'll lose in Oxford this season. As for the "banner years", I don't see either of us having one of those. My predictions for both teams have been 6-5, and I'll stick to that. But this wasn't a diss. I like USC and certainly think things are on the up for you boys. See you in da ville.

No problem. I simply said we will see.... :D

Neo
07-22-2005, 05:09 PM
We did lose Matt, but we return 17 starters this year.

How many of those returning starters played QB or even remotely had half the talent that Jones had? :cool:

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 06:35 PM
How many of those returning starters played QB or even remotely had half the talent that Jones had? :cool:

I'll take a whack at it. NONE!! :cool:

scfan5338
07-22-2005, 09:38 PM
How many of those returning starters played QB or even remotely had half the talent that Jones had? :cool:


Exactally. Jones was the one that killed us every single year. Even last year when we won the game, he made the game interesting with his mobility. I dont think anyone can bring what Matt Jones brought to the field this year for Bama. Well there could be some that I don't do of.

Jordan
07-22-2005, 10:01 PM
Exactally. Jones was the one that killed us every single year. Even last year when we won the game, he made the game interesting with his mobility. I dont think anyone can bring what Matt Jones brought to the field this year for Bama. Well there could be some that I don't do of.
You mean for Arkansas? Matt Jones never went to Bama... he was Arkansas all the way. :)

I think that Arkansas might turn a few heads this year. There are a lot of people (not just here, but nationally) blowing them off, saying that Jones is gone and building the news up around just that. While his loss will have an impact, the team/fans/etc around here seem to be pretty pumped up off all the negative criticism they're getting about the upcoming season. They seem pretty dedicated to proving everyone wrong, and I think they could easily win a few key games to come out with at least a 6-5 season.... which is more than a lot of people are predicting for them.

SilverBritches
07-22-2005, 11:27 PM
http://www.collegefootballnews.com/sec/2005_Previews/SouthCarolina_Preview.htm

2005 Schedule
CFN Prediction: 5-6
Preview 2005 predicted wins
9/3 UCF W
9/10 at Georgia L
9/17 Alabama L
9/24 Troy W
10/1 at Auburn L
10/8 Kentucky W
10/22 Vanderbilt W
10/29 at Tennessee L
11/5 at Arkansas L
11/12 Florida W
11/19 Clemson L


I think that a bunch of crap that they predit we are going to have a 5-6 year. I told a couple of my friends this and they said that CFN is one of the least accurate sites around. How do they have us losing to Arkansas? I mean come on. We beat them with Matt Jones. Now that they dont have Matt Jones I think we are going to beat them. And I also think that Alabama and Clemson game could be toss ups. Also CFN has USC going 7-4 last year with a win against Georgia. What made them think that we could beat Georgia last year? I think we have a better chance at beating Georgia this year than we did last year. This year they dont have David Greene, David Pollack, Fred Gibson, and the Other receivers. They lost a lot of their talent on the offensive side of the ball. I don't see how they have use losing to them either. I mean if they has us beating them last year than they should have us beating them this year as well.

Ever heard of the concept of an upset?

Last year we started off with a cupcake team. This year we play a top 25 team. Last year we played in Columbia where we historically have trouble. This year it is in Athens.

We lost talent on offense. No denying that. However, so did USC. You lost your top RB, your top WR (your best player on the team), your QB, and some OL if I'm not mistaken.

We will see how it all shakes out.

Jay_Lupo
07-23-2005, 12:19 AM
How many of those returning starters played QB or even remotely had half the talent that Jones had? :cool:

Well that's a no-brainer. None of the 17 played QB b/c, well, Matt did and seeing how Jones is one of the greatest players to ever wear a Razorback uniform, I seriously doubt we're going to find somebody with Matt Jones' talent this year.

But, 5 of those guys did start on the SEC's NO. 1 offensive line (Statistically). There's a guy that's 6'6 and broke every freshman recieving record in school history and there's two running backs (Sr. & So.) that have combined to rush for 1,829 yards and 25 td's in an overstocked (Cedric Cobbs, Brandon Holmes, Fred Talley, Decori Birmingham, etc..) Arkansas backfield. There's also a guy (not one of the 17) that was a top 15 recruit this year and one of the biggest we've ever got in the backfield. He's 6'0, 210 and runs a 4.3. Throw in two more track stars that stand at least 6'1 at reciever, and you've got yourself a decent offense. These guys will make an easier adjustment for Robert Johnson and the fact that we'll being going back to a more traditional Nutt offense now that we aren't designing the playbook around MJ won't hurt either.

The O will not be the problem, or even a problem for Arkansas this year. It rarely is b/c we're always able to run the ball.

Defense holds the key for us and while it was miserable last year, it should be improved with the addition of Herring. But this is what our season hinges on, not replacing the amazing Matt Jones.

pc72687
07-23-2005, 08:43 AM
I don't think Arky is going to be bad at all. They are just losing my favorite player!

Jay_Lupo
07-23-2005, 12:42 PM
I don't think Arky is going to be bad at all. They are just losing my favorite player!

I know man, believe me, nobody is more upset about losing Matt than me. He's my cousin, my favorite all-time college player, razorback, etc.... It's really not going to be the same. He's been doing if for four years and now poof, he's gone. But that's the nature of the beast. It was just so nice to have that hope that no matter the situation, time left, yards to go, etc..., that we could score at any second on any play. But I think what we've got coming back on offense will make replacing MJ a not-too-tough task. Defense, is the scary part. If they play like they did last year, we may not even win 5 games. God, the Ark. defense was so horrible last year. 4 QBs had career days against us (Campbell, Greene, Leak, and umm....Louisiana Monroe's QB [ouch]). Hopefully Herring will turn things aroud for us. Anyway, this is a USC thread so I need to quit talking about the Razorbacks :)

Jordan
07-23-2005, 12:46 PM
I know man, believe me, nobody is more upset about losing Matt than me. He's my cousin, my favorite all-time college player, razorback, etc.... It's really not going to be the same. He's been doing if for four years and now poof, he's gone. But that's the nature of the beast. It was just so nice to have that hope that no matter the situation, time left, yards to go, etc..., that we could score at any second on any play. But I think what we've got coming back on offense will make replacing MJ a not-too-tough task. Defense, is the scary part. If they play like they did last year, we may not even win 5 games. God, the Ark. defense was so horrible last year. 4 QBs had career days against us (Campbell, Greene, Leak, and umm....Louisiana Monroe's QB [ouch]). Hopefully Herring will turn things aroud for us. Anyway, this is a USC thread so I need to quit talking about the Razorbacks :)
Wow, everybody really are cousins up here, aren't they? :D :p

Hehe... just messing with you. People have said the same about Bama my whole life. :)

Jay_Lupo
07-23-2005, 12:49 PM
Haha, I know man, any time you run into a damn Yank they gotta talk some smack like that. And Matt's not like my brother or anything :), my grandmother and his grandfather are brother-sister, but our families are pretty close.