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JerryBeeds
07-20-2005, 07:24 PM
Spurrier: Gamecocks still figuring some things out

By JOHN BRASIER
Anderson Independent-Mail
July 19, 2005

COLUMBIA — Though the official start of his team’s preseason football practice is still about two weeks away, South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier is already disappointed in some of his expected starters.

"We’re just trying to do things the right way — simple as that,’’ Spurrier said Tuesday. "And we’ve got a long way to go.’’

The new USC coach is particularly disappointed with the number of no-shows at the Gamecocks’ early morning weightlifting sessions, which are mandated by NCAA rules as "voluntary.’’

"Our attendance is not real good,’’ Spurrier said. "I’ll be the first to admit we have eight-to-10 guys miss every day and we even have some of the guys missing who are expected to be starters. At Florida and the good football programs, that doesn’t happen.’’

Spurrier, who spent two seasons as coach of the National Football League’s Washington Redskins after leaving Florida following the 2001 season, mentioned the problem to Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops, who served as defensive coordinator for him at Florida.

"I asked (Stoops) the other day, ‘How many guys do you have missing at voluntary workouts?’’’ Spurrier recalled. "He said, ‘None. They know if they want to play, they have to be there.’

"Our guys don’t know that yet. We have several players that don’t know the commitment level to be successful. No, we’re not going to kick them off (the team), they’re our guys. And it’s voluntary. But it’s disappointing in the attitudes in the players we think are going to play.

"We’ll handle it once it becomes mandatory starting Aug. 1. That’s all we can do right now.’’

One player that might be helping his cause this summer is Blake Mitchell, generally considered the leading candidate for the starting quarterback spot.

Spurrier said he thought Mitchell had perfect attendance at voluntary workouts.

The coach said the status of starting running back Cory Boyd, who has been in his doghouse due to disciplinary problems, has not yet been determined.

Spurrier said that 26 members of his 27-player recruiting class had met NCAA academic eligibility requirements, Spurrier said it would be necessary to delay the scholarship of one recruit until second semester. NCAA rules allow a maximum of 25 new scholarship players each season.

Spurrier said he was optimistic that the NCAA would accept USC’s recommendation that the school give up two scholarships for the next years as the major penalty for 10 rules violations committed under former coach Lou Holtz.

He repeated comments made over the weekend to reporters at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Nev., that USC had some players on scholarship it could afford to lose.

"We could go without two,’’ Spurrier said. "It wouldn’t hurt us a bit.

"We absolutely have no excuses if we don’t do well. The investigation - minus two scholarships - won’t hurt us.’’

JerryBeeds
07-20-2005, 07:26 PM
This is not a good sign. You have to be totally dedicated to be a winning football team. I know it's only voluntary, but the guy's should be there. I read where UGA's summer work-out attendance is near 100%. These guys just don't seem to understand what it takes to win....

SPURED
07-20-2005, 07:31 PM
Spurrier will change that. he will teach these guys what it takes to be a good program

JerryBeeds
07-20-2005, 07:33 PM
Spurrier will change that. he will teach these guys what it takes to be a good program

I have no doubt in my mind that the guys who were recruited by SOS will work hard as hell. It's all of Lou's holdovers who have me worried...

Bongo
07-20-2005, 07:33 PM
This is not a good sign. You have to be totally dedicated to be a winning football team. I know it's only voluntary, but the guy's should be there. I read where UGA's summer work-out attendance is near 100%. These guys just don't seem to understand what it takes to win....


They'll figure it out when their butts are on the bench. Bet they catch hell on Aug 1 too.

JerryBeeds
07-20-2005, 07:35 PM
They'll figure it out when their butts are on the bench. Bet they catch hell on Aug 1 too.

Now maybe some of the people who were critical of SOS's decision to pull scolly's can understand why he did so... ;)

Spurrierismyhomeboy
07-20-2005, 07:38 PM
If it isnt one damn thing its another, but they'll pay on August 1st when the coaches run them till they puke

fernandomike
07-20-2005, 07:57 PM
Like UT, you guys are having some leadership issues. Your coaches can't make players attend "voluntary" workouts, but that doesn't mean that your team captains shouldn't be all over their a$$es. Lack of leadership also shows up when you have a bunch of off-field incidents. Both squads had better get focused fast. That kind of stuff can bring a great coach average results.

Beebop
07-20-2005, 07:59 PM
I hope their Arses ride the pine......you have to think and act like a winner if you want to be a winner......missing workouts.....voluntary or not....is not the sign of a champion!

palmettocock
07-20-2005, 08:48 PM
I like how the report said these "issues" will be brought up on august first..........in my football experience that means get ready to run until ya drop. I did notice though that Blake Mitchell has gone to every meeting. I might just have to take back what I said about his work ethic.

scunyon
07-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Now maybe some of the people who were critical of SOS's decision to pull scolly's can understand why he did so... ;)


Agreed! I thought it was kind of jacked up at first, but it would seem that you would want to do whatever it took to get the edge on the competition......they must've forgotten they play not only in the SEC, but in the SEC East :eek:

Jordan
07-20-2005, 09:15 PM
"I asked (Stoops) the other day, ‘How many guys do you have missing at voluntary workouts?’" Spurrier recalled. "He said, ‘None. They know if they want to play, they have to be there.’"

Anybody feel the victim of the next NCAA investigations? :p

scfan5338
07-20-2005, 09:34 PM
It looks like Blake Mitchell really wants to be the starting QB for the Gamecocks. I think if season started right now with Mitchell's commitment to play I think Spurrier would put him in, rather than the other guys.

Dr. Pepper
07-20-2005, 09:49 PM
Don't put too much stock in what you read in the fishwraps. The men will be ready come September 1.

pc72687
07-20-2005, 09:54 PM
Yes they will be ready. But whether they are championship ready or not is still to be seen.

Jordan
07-20-2005, 10:01 PM
Yes they will be ready. But whether they are championship ready or not is still to be seen.
Also, remember that the less strength/conditioning an athlete gets, the more they're generally prone to injury. (Go ahead and get the laughs and Bama jokes out of your system now :p)

That wasn't really our problem, as our conditioning has been very strict in recent years... but it's happened to plenty of athletes over the years at just about any school. These guys need to learn that being great comes with hard work and committment. Hopefully they'll get their butts in gear once August rolls around, for you guys' sake.

pc72687
07-20-2005, 10:06 PM
I sure hope so. And just so you know, the Bama jokes regarding the injuries didn't even come to mind until you said it. But really I think some people use it as a cop-out when talking about Bama. Look at the boy who played for Oklahoma. He had two knee surgeries and he got the heisman. I am not saying Croyle will do that but just because he got injured before doesn't nessecarily mean he is destined to get injured. But I truly believe in conditioning, and its magic as a remedy to getting injured.

GamecockDieHard
07-20-2005, 10:07 PM
If any of the football team are reading this: "WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?" Do you honestly think you can compete against Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Auburn, hell, even Central Florida, if you don't bust your ASS????? Who do you think you are? I'll tell you. Most of you are lucky you even get a prayer to play in the SEC. To think that top recruits at these other schools are busting it getting ready to play in the fall makes me sick to think of the the chance players we have that don't think it's necessary to do everything possible to be ready to play. We will NEVER compete at the class program level with jerk-offs like that. I am HEAVILY invested in Gamecock football, but this is pathetic and I'm disgusted. I believe few large contributors know how pathetic our team commitment really is. Keep it up and you may be playing to a half-full stadium. Even a FAN knows that it takes more than what you're doing to be successful in this league. You PUNKS!!!!! Un-freaking-believeable. Spur should axe more scholly's. Get to work and make something of yourself. One wise man once said, "Work hard at USC and you may wind up a Gamecock football analyst is a pathetic refrain considering other SEC East schools that say, Work hard and you may win a Super Bowl." Which would you rather be?? Spur is right, why not us? I'll tell you why. We've got lazy bums that think they're all that because they've been asked to play at a school that has a losing football program after 100+ years. Spur will set it straight, but it's going to take a while. When it happens, the losers and dead-beats of the past have nothing but shame to carry. They could have, but didn't, 'cause they were too good to bust it in July, so they got busted in Sept through November.

pc72687
07-20-2005, 10:13 PM
I 100% agree GamecockDiehard. You think that since they are going to be working their butts off in two-a-days that they would treasure the summer workouts because this is when they get to get in shape and make those two-a-days even easier. Also after all the practice ahead of them, and all the hard work ahead of them, they would consider that and try to make it all not in vain!

GamecockDieHard
07-20-2005, 10:18 PM
I 100% agree GamecockDiehard. You think that since they are going to be working their butts off in two-a-days that they would treasure the summer workouts because this is when they get to get in shape and make those two-a-days even easier. Also after all the practice ahead of them, and all the hard work ahead of them, they would consider that and try to make it all not in vain!


EXACTLY. WTF?????

Jordan
07-20-2005, 10:23 PM
EXACTLY. WTF?????
Gotta keep in mind too that many college-age kids don't have their priorities straight, though, even ones on scholarship. It's not just the student athletes. That doesn't make it right, but kids make mistakes.... especially the many of them who are just getting out of the house for the first times in their lives.

Hopefully CSS will whip them into gear pretty quick though. :)

GamecockDieHard
07-20-2005, 10:30 PM
"at Florida and other good schools, that doesn't happen" Meaning Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Florida, Tennesse, and so on, and so on. In other words, most of the SEC schools that routinely wax our butts!!! Nice try, but there is NO excuse. All that's left is good indications why we are below .500 after 100 (years). All we needed was a few winning seasons. That ain't happening with this kind of effort. IMO.

Dr. Pepper
07-20-2005, 10:35 PM
I expect that Spurrier has made himself perfectly clear to the few that have not been working out. I suspect you can compare the list of non-work-out-wannabe's to the list of 6 or 7 that got letters warning of scholarship loss and you will see the same names. While it would be nice to be able to go 3 or 4 deep on the depth chart and have a lot of people on the sidelines ready to play, we only need 11 on offense and 11 on defense at any given time.

When you go fishing and you get your hook caught on a limb, it doesn't take you long to realize that you simply cut the line and put on another hook. If you focus on the snag, you waste too much valuable fishing time. Spurrier is not going to waste his time.

Certainly, if we are to play championship ball, we have to have some depth. It may take a year or two, but Spurrier will have us there. Be patient. No since yelling at the lazy guys. Cut them loose and make room for those who want to play.

cocky4ever
07-21-2005, 05:22 AM
I expect that Spurrier has made himself perfectly clear to the few that have not been working out. I suspect you can compare the list of non-work-out-wannabe's to the list of 6 or 7 that got letters warning of scholarship loss and you will see the same names. While it would be nice to be able to go 3 or 4 deep on the depth chart and have a lot of people on the sidelines ready to play, we only need 11 on offense and 11 on defense at any given time.

When you go fishing and you get your hook caught on a limb, it doesn't take you long to realize that you simply cut the line and put on another hook. If you focus on the snag, you waste too much valuable fishing time. Spurrier is not going to waste his time.

Certainly, if we are to play championship ball, we have to have some depth. It may take a year or two, but Spurrier will have us there. Be patient. No since yelling at the lazy guys. Cut them loose and make room for those who want to play.

Good points. Plus, I must say its a damn shame for our school to have taken all that money to create one of the best work out facilities in the country, only to have some players who dont want to take advantage of it. I just dont understand what some of these players are thinking, along with the ones who have already been kicked off of the team. Do they not know what type of opportunities they have in front of them right now? If they dont take advantage of these things now they'll be kicking themselves in the @$$ for the rest of their lives.

pc72687
07-21-2005, 09:26 AM
You know I was thinking soley on the football side of things but cocky4ever makes a good point. We have one of the best weight rooms/ indoor tracks/facilities in the nation and they would rather be at home playing themselves in NCAA 2006. Don't they won't their team to be an A or A+ team in the game, instead of a B- or C team?

Cianne
07-21-2005, 09:30 AM
You know I was thinking soley on the football side of things but cocky4ever makes a good point. We have one of the best weight rooms/ indoor tracks/facilities in the nation and they would rather be at home playing themselves in NCAA 2006. Don't they won't their team to be an A or A+ team in the game, instead of a B- or C team?

Goto summer workouts and then play NCAA 2006 in the fieldhouse aftewards, duh.

pc72687
07-21-2005, 09:33 AM
Cianne to me and you that seems so obvious. But maybe me and you need to grab the biggest stick we can find and send these boys a lesson they won't soon forget!

Cianne
07-21-2005, 09:34 AM
Cianne to me and you that seems so obvious. But maybe me and you need to grab the biggest stick we can find and send these boys a lesson they won't soon forget!

I think our players are doing pretty good going to summer workouts. You may need two sticks to get your players there, and maybe the players are too busy playing Grand Theft Auto :D

jneesy
07-21-2005, 10:10 AM
steve will recruit players that know that summer workouts are "required voluntary practices" you guys wont have these problems in a couple of years

BeeDee
07-21-2005, 10:19 AM
I think our players are doing pretty good going to summer workouts. You may need two sticks to get your players there, and maybe the players are too busy playing Grand Theft Auto :D


Playing or committing?

Only kiddin' fellas. Don't get all up in arms.

ColonelKurtz
07-21-2005, 10:40 AM
Now maybe some of the people who were critical of SOS's decision to pull scolly's can understand why he did so... ;)

Two entirely different issues JB. Taking 'ships from guys he has decided won't play anyway isn't the same as him doing it to those who are expected to play yet don't show up for workouts, yet he didn't indicate he would do that.

As Fernandomike said, what you guys are hearing is that you don't have the culture of winning ingrained yet for not enough players have stepped up to lead. the rest. And yes, as those who aren't of a mind to emulate the efforts of the successful programs are weeded out and replaced with those who only know that way, they will be replaced by those who only know SOS's way.

It is for this reason alone that I've not been too keen on SC's prospects for this Fall. Some HC transitions go more smoothly than do others and without much dropoff in performance while others such as yours is going about like a Red Chinese purge. This news about some players not working out is surprising and doesn't bode well for the development of any meaningful team chemistry for this season.

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LBT
07-21-2005, 11:39 AM
I'm afraid if everbody showed up for these workouts that the NCAA might start another 3 year investigation.
Seriously though, you can't control how much talent you are born with but you can control how hard you work for something. Considering that we are not the most talented team in the SEC, you'd think these guys would be doing everything possible to make up for it. I've noticed several games in recent years where we did not look to be in as good shape as some of our opponents. The Clemson game last year was a good example. Of course its probably a lot easier to control what the kids do in a small town in the middle of nowhere. Theres not much else for them to do in the place. Probably easier to keep them out of trouble too. I remember an Arkansas player a couple of years ago mentioning that he thought our players were out of shape after that game too. There's really no excuse for it in my opinion. I don't remember Holtz saying much about summer workouts while he was here. Players work a lot harder now than in the 70's so maybe he was too old fashioned in that respect. Its just speculation though. Kind of hard to say for sure.

pc72687
07-21-2005, 01:00 PM
Actually Colonel when I heard Stevie at the press conference and right after talking about the lack of attendence at these workouts he said that a few more players would also be losing their scholarships because he thought that players who were willing to work hard deserved it more. So unfortunetly it does have to do with work ethic, not just Stevie having personal problems with the players.

supergenius
07-21-2005, 01:10 PM
All is not well in Columbia. Interesting to see how fast Spurrier can right the ship.

HSVTider
07-21-2005, 01:44 PM
All is not well in Columbia. Interesting to see how fast Spurrier can right the ship.

I think the record this year might not be indicative of what job Spurrier has done. It's impossible to make up for all of that conditioning time wasted in the summer during 3 weeks of fall camp.

Knowing this, the leadership problems, and the disciplinary problems on the USC squad (leftover from Holtz), it would not surprise me if USC has a mediocre year.

Once Spurrier gets his guys (with his work ethic) in there, SC will be a lot better.

Just my .02.

JerryBeeds
07-21-2005, 01:48 PM
I think the record this year might not be indicative of what job Spurrier has done. It's impossible to make up for all of that conditioning time wasted in the summer during 3 weeks of fall camp.

Knowing this, the leadership problems, and the disciplinary problems on the USC squad (leftover from Holtz), it would not surprise me if USC has a mediocre year.

Once Spurrier gets his guys (with his work ethic) in there, SC will be a lot better.

Just my .02.
That's how I feel. 2005 could be a long season.....

Where's_Demetris?
07-21-2005, 02:31 PM
Plain and simple boys:
"Step it the F up, or step it the F out."

Still, let's not all write the season off yet. Hopefully this is just a wake up call, but if I hear of this again next week, I'm pissed. :mad:

bleedsgarnet
07-21-2005, 03:16 PM
Let's make this clear..We have two kinds of players on the sc squad. there are quite a few guys on the current team that have been pretty fat and happy. These guys i am talking about couldnt get recruited by bigger schools and are just happy to get into a major college. The winning tradition is not instilled at usc. Hell, lou was in florida in the off seasons. The expectations, even of fans, has been low..lets be honest..i have heard most cock fans say that 8-3 and a bowl would make them happy...the players know this//they float along...the other kind is the actual good player that can play pretty much anywhere. The reason they are good is because, not only are they talented, but they have a good work ethic. We have a lot less of those guys. Steve is used to hard working winners. Steve is trimming fat. My prediction is that we will have a winning record and the guys left standing will get deserved recognition for towing the line. Lots of freshman WILL play. they are the core of the future. GO Cocks

JBryant12
07-21-2005, 03:34 PM
I think some of these players just don't know whats in store for them in August...man Spurrier will be running them ragged and they will wish they had attended the summer camps...it will be allright but i bet you that attendence is at least doubled next summer...

SPURED
07-21-2005, 05:03 PM
im not too worried about this, to be honest with you. these guys will be in shape buy september 1st. Spurrier will make sure of that Come August. i know what is going through these guys heads, because i did the same thing last year for baseball season. Its Summer time for crying out loud. these guys have grown up playing football there whole lives. they want to go enjoy life outside of football for a little bit. there is a life outside of football and these guys are liveing that life. not ALL of these guys will have a football career after they leave USC. so let them get away from football for a change and concentrate on the other aspects of there lives. so the people who havnt been in there situation really should lay off a little bit. They will all buckle down come the start of summer camp.

GamecockDieHard
07-21-2005, 06:23 PM
im not too worried about this, to be honest with you. these guys will be in shape buy september 1st. Spurrier will make sure of that Come August. i know what is going through these guys heads, because i did the same thing last year for baseball season. Its Summer time for crying out loud. these guys have grown up playing football there whole lives. they want to go enjoy life outside of football for a little bit. there is a life outside of football and these guys are liveing that life. not ALL of these guys will have a football career after they leave USC. so let them get away from football for a change and concentrate on the other aspects of there lives. so the people who havnt been in there situation really should lay off a little bit. They will all buckle down come the start of summer camp.


Yeah, Spured, you're right. And who cares if they want a couple dozen fried chicken breasts and some mashed potatoes with lotsa gravy and about 5 or 6 biscuits and a few bags of pork rinds before the game?? Come on their just growin' boys!! Who cares about getting ready for Tennessee or Florida?? :D

SPURED
07-21-2005, 07:16 PM
Yeah, Spured, you're right. And who cares if they want a couple dozen fried chicken breasts and some mashed potatoes with lotsa gravy and about 5 or 6 biscuits and a few bags of pork rinds before the game?? Come on their just growin' boys!! Who cares about getting ready for Tennessee or Florida?? :D
it bothers me because alot of people just see these guys as football players. they are not robots. they are people also, who are just gifted athletically. are they not allowed to take a break for a few weeks?

USC66
07-21-2005, 07:17 PM
I liked this quote from SS in another article I read in the paper this morning.

"That (initial scholarship) just gives you one year, in my opinion. Then after that you’ve got to earn your way,” he said. “These guys, if they can’t earn their way, they’re eligible to transfer. It’s a free country.”

They better learn quick or else they can enjoy the freedoms this country has and transfer. :p The gauntlet has been laid down. It's amazing to me that these players who are slacking off just don't get it.

USC66
07-21-2005, 07:22 PM
it bothers me because alot of people just see these guys as football players. they are not robots. they are people also, who are just gifted athletically. are they not allowed to take a break for a few weeks?

If this team is to compete with the top teams, they have to participate in these workouts. We all like a break. The breaks will come. Unfortunately, now is not the time for the break. Look at it like this, what is it they are trying to do or accomplish? Then they have to do what it takes to accomplish that goal. Summer workouts and conditioning is part of what it takes to accomplish the goal. They can break every day after workouts.

pc72687
07-21-2005, 09:27 PM
Ah, I am tired of my job. I think I am going to take a break this summer and not work, I promise to work really hard come the end of the summer. We may not be able to compete with the Mircosofts of the world but by golly we are beating the small businesses!

They get a free education. Give me a break. I would be willing to make myself into the best player possible for a free ride at a college!

SilverBritches
07-21-2005, 10:27 PM
it bothers me because alot of people just see these guys as football players. they are not robots. they are people also, who are just gifted athletically. are they not allowed to take a break for a few weeks?

Are you kidding me? I am getting the impression that you want South Carolina football to stay in mediocrity (sp?) forever. This attitude that you have towards summer workouts, is an attitude of someone who is just fine with more and more 6-5 seasons.

Every other team is showing up for summer workouts. Georgia has 90+ kids at every "voluntary" workout. Our kids know what it takes to win. Yours apparently don't.

You think you can just make it up when fall camp starts. Well, all of the teams that have been working hard all summer are going to be doing just as much to get into shape as USC will once fall camp starts.

Football is not an easy sport. It is hard work. It is a sport that makes men. If these kids think that they deserve a break from football, then they don't care about winning. Winning begins with dedication.

CockyTatGuy
07-21-2005, 11:30 PM
Man, and just think how a few months ago when Lou hung it up how we were singing his praises for changing the culture at the University of South Carolina. Now the culture has to change again from the "look we can hang in there with the big dogs" to "alright if we plan on beating the big dogs we gotta get in there and work for it." I don't think it will take very long to get Spurrier's ideology set in everyone's minds though once he, as my uncle used to say, "goes behind the woodshed and has a word of prayer" with a few of them.

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 09:05 AM
Like UT, you guys are having some leadership issues. Your coaches can't make players attend "voluntary" workouts, but that doesn't mean that your team captains shouldn't be all over their a$$es. Lack of leadership also shows up when you have a bunch of off-field incidents. Both squads had better get focused fast. That kind of stuff can bring a great coach average results.

I could not agree more. In the article it even mentions perhaps that is part of Carolina's mediocre teams over the past several decades. I have a feeling mister nice guy is gone. :cool:

GatorNation
07-22-2005, 11:33 AM
Are you kidding me? I am getting the impression that you want South Carolina football to stay in mediocrity (sp?) forever. This attitude that you have towards summer workouts, is an attitude of someone who is just fine with more and more 6-5 seasons.

Every other team is showing up for summer workouts. Georgia has 90+ kids at every "voluntary" workout. Our kids know what it takes to win. Yours apparently don't.

You think you can just make it up when fall camp starts. Well, all of the teams that have been working hard all summer are going to be doing just as much to get into shape as USC will once fall camp starts.

Football is not an easy sport. It is hard work. It is a sport that makes men. If these kids think that they deserve a break from football, then they don't care about winning. Winning begins with dedication.

Nicely said....and I find it funny that usc had problems winning even with a HC who was blatantly cheating, but some fans think that Spurrier is somehow the answer to everything. The coach and his scheme can only take you so far.....even Spurrier. If winning is not in your heart, you won't win....no matter what coach and/or offensive system you have at your disposal.

rabidcock
07-22-2005, 11:48 AM
Like UT, you guys are having some leadership issues. Your coaches can't make players attend "voluntary" workouts, but that doesn't mean that your team captains shouldn't be all over their a$$es. Lack of leadership also shows up when you have a bunch of off-field incidents. Both squads had better get focused fast. That kind of stuff can bring a great coach average results.

Very well said. That has been the main difference, in my estimation, between the cock's 2000 and 2001 seasons as compared to the last three. A leader's peer pressure can place an awful burden on the lazy. Petty was a leader by example. Pinkins lacked leadership ability; try as he might, he was ineffective, at best.

rabidcock
07-22-2005, 12:01 PM
If winning is not in your heart, you won't win....no matter what coach and/or offensive system you have at your disposal.

Amen, Gator!

pc72687
07-22-2005, 02:56 PM
@#$% those @#$%% who are using my hard earned money to get a free ride to school and then loafing around during the summer instead of becoming better.

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 03:36 PM
Nicely said....and I find it funny that usc had problems winning even with a HC who was blatantly cheating, but some fans thing that Spurrier is somehow the answer to everything. The coach and his scheme can only take you so far.....even Spurrier. If winning is not in your heart, you won't win....no matter what coach and/or offensive system you have at your disposal.

Very well put Gator. I believe sooner or later it will click with these players, and with his enthusiasm and desire, it will rub off on them and they will decide they want to be winners. They have only had one spring of practice under him so far, and he was pretty laid back to tell you the truth. I have a feeling they are going to see the real Steve Spurrier come Aug. 1, when he can smell fresh pigskin in the air only a month away. :)

Dr. Pepper
07-22-2005, 05:22 PM
I think some of these players just don't know whats in store for them in August...man Spurrier will be running them ragged and they will wish they had attended the summer camps...it will be allright but i bet you that attendence is at least doubled next summer...


We've kind of gone a little overboard with this. It is not like everyone is slacking off, just a few. A lot of guys are working hard. Spurrier wants 100%, and rightly so. He will have a small but tough squad this year. Next year he will add a few more. We will be OK. Don't let those working hard get a bad rap for those few who are not.

JerryBeeds
07-22-2005, 05:31 PM
I've heard on various boards that we are talking about 7 to 8 guys here. The problem being that 5 of them are projected starters. When I know names I'll post them...

GTmorris1970
07-22-2005, 06:34 PM
We've kind of gone a little overboard with this. It is not like everyone is slacking off, just a few. A lot of guys are working hard. Spurrier wants 100%, and rightly so. He will have a small but tough squad this year. Next year he will add a few more. We will be OK. Don't let those working hard get a bad rap for those few who are not.

Spurrier made his point very clear. He used Oklahoma as an example. 100% attendance. He says he is starting to see why Carolina has been mediocre for so long. When you have 5 projected starters who don't care enough about being where they need to be in less than 2 weeks, that is a problem. :cool:

sburks40
07-22-2005, 08:34 PM
From what I'm hearing in Lexington....turnout is VERY good...! 70+ guys have shown up and are putting in total 100% in summer workouts!

The attitude is totally off the charts! These guys want to win!

Djshockley3
07-22-2005, 10:05 PM
From what I'm hearing in Lexington....turnout is VERY good...! 70+ guys have shown up and are putting in total 100% in summer workouts!

The attitude is totally off the charts! These guys want to win!


Same with UGA,almost 100% turnout. :D

pc72687
07-23-2005, 08:55 AM
Make them known to the world BEEDS!

JerryBeeds
07-23-2005, 09:09 AM
Make them known to the world BEEDS!

I will as soon as I find out who they are. It's all just rumor and innuendo right now.