User Reputations

[Chris]

User Reputations are disabled for now due to abuse of the system.

[RW13]

Just for the record I don't want anyone thinking this is me. I gave positive rep points to 3 or 4 ppl in the past 3 days and tried to give positive points to NEO even though he was agreeing with me. I haven't given any neg points since early may, this is not me

[bamafan0001]

why whats going on?

[RW13]

disagreeing, not agreeing, I type too fast sometimes....

[Djshockley3]

why whats going on?


Yeah what is going on.

[jneesy]

i'm curious too i like the rep system

[fernandomike]

Since those of us who do not abuse the system have absolutely no power to police those who do abuse it, this change seems like a bad idea to me. It punishes the whole group for the problems of a few. At least, I believe it is only a few.
I really like this site. The best writers on here are fabulous. I enjoy giving rep points as a pat on the back to them. However, I think that we do need some etiquette. If you sign your name to positive posts, then you should also have the courage to sign it to negative posts. On the few negatives that I have given, I sign my name to them with a brief explanation of the problem I had with it. It should not be used as some kind of vendetta system. Those who I have given negs to have never given me a retaliatory ding. That is a credit to them. I have also returned to give positive rep, if it was earned, to those who I had given negative to before. We are all men or women here and should behave as such. Exchanging negative rep dings is childish. I guess I should be glad reps are gone, as I would probably take a few hits for this one.
It just seems to me that admins, posters, news writers, etc. need to get back to the business of trying to make this site both informative and fun. If we fail to do that, it will surely die.

[jneesy]

call me nosey but i would love to know
who?
what?
where?

[Djshockley3]

Since those of us who do not abuse the system have absolutely no power to police those who do abuse it, this change seems like a bad idea to me. It punishes the whole group for the problems of a few. At least, I believe it is only a few.
I really like this site. The best writers on here are fabulous. I enjoy giving rep points as a pat on the back to them. However, I think that we do need some etiquette. If you sign your name to positive posts, then you should also have the courage to sign it to negative posts. On the few negatives that I have given, I sign my name to them with a brief explanation of the problem I had with it. It should not be used as some kind of vendetta system. Those who I have given negs to have never given me a retaliatory ding. That is a credit to them. I have also returned to give positive rep, if it was earned, to those who I had given negative to before. We are all men or women here and should behave as such. Exchanging negative rep dings is childish. I guess I should be glad reps are gone, as I would probably take a few hits for this one.
It just seems to me that admins, posters, news writers, etc. need to get back to the business of trying to make this site both informative and fun. If we fail to do that, it will surely die.


Very good post fernando,I always sign my name in pos or neg,and I dont give that many neg.I dont think we should all be punished for a few posters. :cool:

[GamecocksRule]

Since those of us who do not abuse the system have absolutely no power to police those who do abuse it, this change seems like a bad idea to me. It punishes the whole group for the problems of a few. At least, I believe it is only a few.
I really like this site. The best writers on here are fabulous. I enjoy giving rep points as a pat on the back to them. However, I think that we do need some etiquette. If you sign your name to positive posts, then you should also have the courage to sign it to negative posts. On the few negatives that I have given, I sign my name to them with a brief explanation of the problem I had with it. It should not be used as some kind of vendetta system. Those who I have given negs to have never given me a retaliatory ding. That is a credit to them. I have also returned to give positive rep, if it was earned, to those who I had given negative to before. We are all men or women here and should behave as such. Exchanging negative rep dings is childish. I guess I should be glad reps are gone, as I would probably take a few hits for this one.
It just seems to me that admins, posters, news writers, etc. need to get back to the business of trying to make this site both informative and fun. If we fail to do that, it will surely die.
*sigh* Good grief..I haven't been online in almost 24hours and now the reps are gone :( I agree with you fernando..most of us on this board are men and women but apparently there are some rather "childish" people among us...

[JBryant12]

i put -JB after all rep points i give out.....unless i forget to but that rarely happens

[HSVTider]

Well I'm pretty sure we can thank BeeDee for this one. Thanks Man!

[pc72687]

I have yet to give a negative rep point. Most post their opinioins and even though it may differ from mine I respect them for it.

[gopig]

This is disappointing. Maybe if you could tell us a better idea of what the problem is (w/o naming names) we could all put our heads together and find a way to correct it/improve the system.

I think rep points are a good idea.

[RW13]

BeeDee gives alot of Neg points? I think he gave me positive ones once....

[Djshockley3]

BeeDee gives alot of Neg points? I think he gave me positive ones once....


Yeah he always gives me pos rep points,but there are a few people that I know he loves to give neg. :D

[Chris]

I am investigating the culprits and will return the system when I have an idea how to better it.

[Djshockley3]

I am investigating the culprits and will return the system when I have an idea how to better it.


What exactly was the problem chris.

[uscrebel]

Only once since I have been on the board have I given a negative rep and that was to that butthead a couple of weeks ago who got banned in like 36 hours. Even when that dude from USC reamed me out, I didn't negative rep him (actually some of what he wrote about me was pretty funny)

The community needs to police this stuff and there are ways to do that. Give us some idea of "what" happened and whether or not it was one person or several people dishing out rep stuff.

One idea that comes to mind is putting a limit on the number of negative reps any one person can give any other person. Like limit me to dishing out 5 negative reps per person per month.

[AceLeroy]

Just my suggestion..........only allow positive points to be given out. This way people would still recieve their props for good , well thought out posts yet nobody could hurt their reputation just because they didn't like their school of choice or opinion.

For the record , I have never given out positive or negative points to anyone nor have I paid any attention to anyone's rep under their user name anyway.

If I think you are a good poster and write interesting material , I don't care what kind of rating the rest of the board gives you. Their opinion of what is interesting and mine could and probably will differ. I don't care if you disagree with everthing I say , if you do so with intelligence and well thought out points you will still have my respect. I will remember reading your posts if they stand out whether they are good or bad. That means more to me than how many green spots you have under your name.

Now on the other hand , if you start your post out saying " These are facts" and then go on a rant that is mostly opinion , then I will choose to ignore you , again regardless of how many green spots you have under your username.

Peace everyone

[cocky4ever]

Just my suggestion..........only allow positive points to be given out. This way people would still recieve their props for good , well thought out posts yet nobody could hurt their reputation just because they didn't like their school of choice or opinion.

For the record , I have never given out positive or negative points to anyone nor have I paid any attention to anyone's rep under their user name anyway.

If I think you are a good poster and write interesting material , I don't care what kind of rating the rest of the board gives you. Their opinion of what is interesting and mine could and probably will differ. I don't care if you disagree with everthing I say , if you do so with intelligence and well thought out points you will still have my respect. I will remember reading your posts if they stand out whether they are good or bad. That means more to me than how many green spots you have under your name.

Now on the other hand , if you start your post out saying " These are facts" and then go on a rant that is mostly opinion , then I will choose to ignore you , again regardless of how many green spots you have under your username.

Peace everyone
Good points.

[uscrebel]

Just my suggestion..........only allow positive points to be given out. This way people would still recieve their props for good , well thought out posts yet nobody could hurt their reputation just because they didn't like their school of choice or opinion.

[snip]

Now on the other hand , if you start your post out saying " These are facts" and then go on a rant that is mostly opinion , then I will choose to ignore you , again regardless of how many green spots you have under your username.

Peace everyone

See...Leroy deserves some rep for this.


Props dude.

[GatorNation]

However, I think that we do need some etiquette. If you sign your name to positive posts, then you should also have the courage to sign it to negative posts.

I brought this up months ago....

[AceLeroy]

See...Leroy deserves some rep for this.


Props dude.

Thank you very much.

You are a good example of what I am saying. You and I support different teams and have recently disagreed , yet you just showed me some respect and I also respect your opinion. We CAN disagree and still respect each other , after all We all just love our teams.

[Jordan]

What exactly was the problem chris.
Just gotta say, give the man some time to look into it. He stated that he's investigating, so don't you all think he should be given time to do that before making any statements about it?

Imagine what would happen if he made a post about what happened, and then after investigating it further he found out that his original thoughts on it were wrong. He would be damaging someone's reputation, as well as his own by doing this.

Personally, I've never cared a ton about rating systems on bulletin boards. They're usually very skewed, especially once people begin forming their "cliques" on a board. Even if negative points were taken out, there could be someone who has a friend giving him/her positive points on nearly every post. I don't know about this board, but I have seen it happen on others before, which led to it having very unreliable member ratings.


The Perfect Solution (In my opinion, at least)....
Keep in mind that a vBulletin mod likely doesn't exist for this, and it would require more time than it's worth to make it from scratch. But if time/money were no object, here's my opinion of an ideal rating system. Instead of simply adding a point to a user's reputation, you would add a point to a post. If 5 or more different members add a point to the same post, the user who made the post would then receive a single reputation point. This would cut down on abuse of the system, as it would now require more than a single member to find the post helpful to get the poster a reputation point. Also, this would make it so that a user could only receive a maximum of one reputation point for post. It would more or less be a count of how many posts a user has made that were found to be good/helpful/informative by multiple members of the site. I guess it would be more of a "helpfulness rating" system.

[supergenius]

Good riddance to the rep system. Maybe now BeeDee will have more to do than ding me for, and I quote: "Naah, I just picked a post at random. The thread that I was dinging you for had been deleted".

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

My recommendation would be to get rid of negatives. If someone writes a well thought out post, with good information and research, give 'em a positive. If not, don't give 'em anything. I've never given a negative (and don't plan to start).

[GeauxTo]

Just gotta say, give the man some time to look into it. He stated that he's investigating, so don't you all think he should be given time to do that before making any statements about it?

Imagine what would happen if he made a post about what happened, and then after investigating it further he found out that his original thoughts on it were wrong. He would be damaging someone's reputation, as well as his own by doing this.

Personally, I've never cared a ton about rating systems on bulletin boards. They're usually very skewed, especially once people begin forming their "cliques" on a board. Even if negative points were taken out, there could be someone who has a friend giving him/her positive points on nearly every post. I don't know about this board, but I have seen it happen on others before, which led to it having very unreliable member ratings.


The Perfect Solution (In my opinion, at least)....
Keep in mind that a vBulletin mod likely doesn't exist for this, and it would require more time than it's worth to make it from scratch. But if time/money were no object, here's my opinion of an ideal rating system. Instead of simply adding a point to a user's reputation, you would add a point to a post. If 5 or more different members add a point to the same post, the user who made the post would then receive a single reputation point. This would cut down on abuse of the system, as it would now require more than a single member to find the post helpful to get the poster a reputation point. Also, this would make it so that a user could only receive a maximum of one reputation point for post. It would more or less be a count of how many posts a user has made that were found to be good/helpful/informative by multiple members of the site. I guess it would be more of a "helpfulness rating" system.
Nice, sensible post, Jordan. I would give you some rep points if I could. But, you know that your post was appreciated and, hopefully, that will provide you with some satisfaction. I always sign my reps, which have always been positive, save for just once, and I signed it as well.
;)

[SilverBritches]

Just my suggestion..........only allow positive points to be given out. This way people would still recieve their props for good , well thought out posts yet nobody could hurt their reputation just because they didn't like their school of choice or opinion.

I agree completely. Just let people give out positive rep points.

Or if you would like to do more I propose this. When you see a post that you think needs negative rep points, alert an admin and let them handle it how they like. I don't know if that would work but it is just a suggestion.

[uscrebel]

I agree completely. Just let people give out positive rep points.

Or if you would like to do more I propose this. When you see a post that you think needs negative rep points, alert an admin and let them handle it how they like. I don't know if that would work but it is just a suggestion.

Another variation on this would be to allow negative reps to be assigned, but do not allow it to deduct from positive points unless three or more different posters assign points to the post. This would keep one individual from zapping somebody they don't like, but it would impact posts that are truly heinous. We don't see it often, but we do see it.

[jneesy]

lo and behold....rep returns?????

now i'm really confused

[WayzUp]

Since those of us who do not abuse the system have absolutely no power to police those who do abuse it, this change seems like a bad idea to me. It punishes the whole group for the problems of a few. At least, I believe it is only a few.
I really like this site. The best writers on here are fabulous. I enjoy giving rep points as a pat on the back to them. However, I think that we do need some etiquette. If you sign your name to positive posts, then you should also have the courage to sign it to negative posts. On the few negatives that I have given, I sign my name to them with a brief explanation of the problem I had with it. It should not be used as some kind of vendetta system. Those who I have given negs to have never given me a retaliatory ding. That is a credit to them. I have also returned to give positive rep, if it was earned, to those who I had given negative to before. We are all men or women here and should behave as such. Exchanging negative rep dings is childish. I guess I should be glad reps are gone, as I would probably take a few hits for this one.
It just seems to me that admins, posters, news writers, etc. need to get back to the business of trying to make this site both informative and fun. If we fail to do that, it will surely die.
This is where I'm at with it. Nicely said. They're a good pat on the back for something well said. I find I rarely give out negatives...if I don't like what I've read, I just ignore it and move on to something that does interest me. The negs I use when people do something just for the sake of getting a reaction (trolling, baiting, etc) and/or turning the issue personal.

Another reason I like them is it saves page scrolling time since I don't have to fly through nearly as many "this is a good post" posts. Not that those aren't warranted from time to time... :D

[WayzUp]

Quote:
Originally Posted by fernandomike


However, I think that we do need some etiquette. If you sign your name to positive posts, then you should also have the courage to sign it to negative posts.


I brought this up months ago....
How 'bout displaying the 'rep givers' name for all rep points given, positive and negative. Kinda like public polls where you can see who voted for what...it'd be a public rep only you'd only be abel to see your own...am i making sense? I need coffee...

[dudeman0501]

There are some very good suggestions in this thread.

But keep in mind that most of these mods aren't possible to create without either hours and hours of work, or paying someone to make the mods. So the possibility of any of these actually making it into code is fairly small.

Also, I'm happy to see the rep system back online.

[cocky4ever]

Also, I'm happy to see the rep system back online.

Me too. Im glad everything has been worked out. As far as the changes, I dont mind things just the way they are.

[pc72687]

Just grow up people who are causing trouble!

[BeeDee]

Good riddance to the rep system. Maybe now BeeDee will have more to do than ding me for, and I quote: "Naah, I just picked a post at random. The thread that I was dinging you for had been deleted".The post in which you offended me had been deleted (by an admin). You still deserved the negative rep, so I picked another post. Doesn't seem very hard to comprehend the concept. Given the same situation again, I'll do the same thing. Count on it. The bottom line is, if you don't want negative rep (from me or anyone else) then be sensible in what you post. If you want to say things that offend folks, then be prepared to take the negative rep points. Pretty simple ideas here, no rocket science involved.

[BeeDee]

Well I'm pretty sure we can thank BeeDee for this one. Thanks Man!You are certainly welcome. I'll continue to give negative rep to those that offend me with their idiocy. See my previous post - #37 in this thread for another example. If you don't want negative rep, then be sensible about what you post. It's really that simple. You CHOSE for me to give you negative rep by posting the things that you did. Your actions have consequences. Keep it up that type of posting, and I'll give you more negative rep.

[Chris]

The system is back in place without change. I found what I was looking for. There are 4 members(staff and regular members) that am watching now. PLease use the system as it is intended.

This is not a popularity contest. The points are intended to judge a users posts, not their "coolness".

[RW13]

The system is back in place without change. I found what I was looking for. There are 4 members(staff and regular members) that am watching now. PLease use the system as it is intended.

This is not a popularity contest. The points are intended to judge a users posts, not their "coolness".


awesome, I just wanna say I'm 100% behind this action Chris

[GTmorris1970]

Thanks Chris. Smack some butt!!

[pc72687]

4 people causing so much trouble for so many innocent people. Isn't it always that way?

[JaGuArApRiL]

Wow what a mess...lol...I have rarely given out negative rep and they were well due when I did...Plus I note my ~Jag~ on the end...

[SeattleGamecocks]

I have 2 observations about when I've received Neg points
1-Never once a signature. I haven't given any Neg pts, but would certainly own up to it if I did.
2-Every time I've gotten neg points on a post, that same post has also received positive feedback, so at worst it was a wash. FWIW.

All in all life would be pretty good if things like this were what bothered me. Hell, its pretty good anyway.

[BAMA NATE]

The system is back in place without change. I found what I was looking for. There are 4 members(staff and regular members) that am watching now. PLease use the system as it is intended.

This is not a popularity contest. The points are intended to judge a users posts, not their "coolness".

Wait!!!

There is actually a staff member behind this mess. That don't sound right if you ask me. I'm just guessing either Neo or BeeDee.

[HSVTider]

Wait!!!

There is actually a staff member behind this mess. That don't sound right if you ask me. I'm just guessing either Neo or BeeDee.

I'll put my vote with BeeDee. I know he dinged me a couple of times for posts that may have been opinionated but nothing worth getting a negative rep for.

I don't think I can think of a good reason to give someone negative rep points unless their on here just posting garbage like "FULMER ATE TOO MANY DONUTS", "ALL SHULA CAN DO IS DROB F BOMBS", etc.. However, it seems that some folks hand out negative rep points if someone disagrees with them.

I guess we can throw democracy out the window and enter into something that is two steps short of fascism.

[HSVTider]

You are certainly welcome. I'll continue to give negative rep to those that offend me with their idiocy. See my previous post - #37 in this thread for another example. If you don't want negative rep, then be sensible about what you post. It's really that simple. You CHOSE for me to give you negative rep by posting the things that you did. Your actions have consequences. Keep it up that type of posting, and I'll give you more negative rep.

As you command my master...oh great giver of Justice and Deliverer of Retributional Consequences BeeDee.

[BeeDee]

As you command my master...oh great giver of Justice and Deliverer of Retributional Consequences BeeDee.
I like and will embrace that title. It has a nice ring to it.

[ColonelKurtz]

Only because this is a threaded topic will I address the ball-less dinging of reps annonymously. Yes, I rub folks the wrong way with some of my remarks but just like at home or in the office, it happens and you deal with it. But, if you don't like or disagree with my opinion, why not man up and let's discuss it.
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Some folks could take a minute more and read more carefully within the context of what is posted and there would be far less of this perceived or better yet, assumed, acrimony.

As I posted last night, I don't dislike or hate anyone or any program, I just don't like them on game week. :p

[rabidcock]

Another variation on this would be to allow negative reps to be assigned, but do not allow it to deduct from positive points unless three or more different posters assign points to the post. This would keep one individual from zapping somebody they don't like, but it would impact posts that are truly heinous. We don't see it often, but we do see it.

While this and many other suggestions were good ones, I'm glad it is now a moot point. I like the rep system and will abide by any forms of ettiquette deemed necessary. I have only recently begun signing my name, as I saw it suggested in a recent post. I have only given one negative rep ever, and this was to a real rabble rouser who, if they haven't been banned, soon will be. When all of your posts are negative and of slanted and illogical opinion, then you should be given a negative rep.

Anyway, if Chris or anyone in authority has any helpful suggestions regarding the issue, please let us know. If I ever offended anyone in any way, I would expect, at least, a private message telling me so, and so should anyone else on this site.

Peace, brothers.

[volimhtown]

Forgive me for sounding negative, but I REALLY don't understand the necesity for rep points. What purpose does it serve? It just really seems childish to me. Does anyone really give more or less credence to a specific posting based on the posters' rep points?? Whether anyone likes/dislikes or agrees/disagrees with a specific post, what difference does it make? Since the vast majority of postings are simply voiced opinions and can't be subjectively measured for accuracy, again, what's the point? JMO

[supergenius]

I am afraid that I must ding your rep points for such a negative post! j/k :D

[Cianne]

Neener neener neener, I have three squares!

[pc72687]

I think only positive rep points should be allowed.

[Jordan]

Forgive me for sounding negative, but I REALLY don't understand the necesity for rep points. What purpose does it serve? It just really seems childish to me. Does anyone really give more or less credence to a specific posting based on the posters' rep points?? Whether anyone likes/dislikes or agrees/disagrees with a specific post, what difference does it make? Since the vast majority of postings are simply voiced opinions and can't be subjectively measured for accuracy, again, what's the point? JMO
I agree completely with that statement. I've never put any weight on rep points, post counts, etc on any message boards before. It really tells very little about a person IMO, as someone who has been here longer will obviously have more rep points and posts, even if they have a fairly large number of negative posts. It's almost like eBay. You can have a seller with 25,000 positive feeback, but that doesn't account for the 1,000 buyers that had a bad experience and gave him negative feedback.

I don't have a problem with them being enabled, but I put absolutely no weight on them when judging a person.

[supergenius]

I think only positive rep points should be allowed.
I disagree, therfore you are dinged!! :eek:

[pc72687]

Well, I disagree with you so therefore you are double dinged!!

P.S. I NEVER give out negative rep points!!!!

[supergenius]

Well, I disagree with you so therefore you are double dinged!!

P.S. I NEVER give out negative rep points!!!!
I ding you to infinity!

[Cianne]

I ding you to infinity!

Oh snap dawg you didn't

[dudeman0501]

I think only positive rep points should be allowed.
That would be nice to do, but vBulletin is made for both positive and negative reps and it doesn't allow changes to the system out-of-the-box.

So we only have reps or no reps...