UF = "Wide Receiver U"

[GatorNation]

An article on UF's WRs and the upcoming season.

WR U (http://www.alligator.org/pt2/050630foot.php)

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

Wide Reciever U means your recievers do well in the NFL I dont see alot of successfull WRs in the NFL from UF!

[Cianne]

Example is that USC was Running Back U. Marcus Allen, OJ Simpson, the rest of them.

[Jay_Lupo]

Darrell Jackson, Travis Taylor, Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney, Taylor Jacobs, Kelvin Kight and Ike Hilliard just to name a few off the top of my head. Looks like "WR U" to me.

The Gators are also going to be able to throw a few more names in that hat when this corps makes it to the league. Florida's WR's are fantastic!!! So is their QB.

[Cianne]

The thing is, out of that group you listed, Hilliard is really the only one do do anything near outstanding. Gaffney had some mediocre years. Taylor did ok for a while in Baltimore, but none are top flight receivers. I guess you can flood the NFL with mediocre receivers and name yourselves WR U.

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

Only Ike has had a pro bowl career in the NFL, for it to be called WR U you have to have at least one hall of famer. EX. USC HB U OJ, Marcus Allen, etc...

[Jay_Lupo]

The thing is, out of that group you listed, Hilliard is really the only one do do anything near outstanding. Gaffney had some mediocre years. Taylor did ok for a while in Baltimore, but none are top flight receivers. I guess you can flood the NFL with mediocre receivers and name yourselves WR U.

Caldwell was one the best in the entire league last year until he got hurt for the rest of the season. Hilliard's had some fantastic seasons. Taylor, I'll admit, has nowhere near filled his potential and probably never will. Gaffney's had a few so-so years? This is like his 3rd year in the NFL. He's got a great QB throwing to him, so watch for him to be an excellent WR in the league in the coming years.

Again, this was off the top of my head. There's got to be more.

[Jay_Lupo]

Only Ike has had a pro bowl career in the NFL, for it to be called WR U you have to have at least one hall of famer. EX. USC HB U OJ, Marcus Allen, etc...

Out of the guys I listed, Hilliard's the only one who's not "young". Most of these guys, especially Caldwell, Jackson and Gaffney, have not hit their primes yet.

I can't think of any other schools with that man solid WR's in the NFL. I dunno. Anybody know where we could get the info on all Fla. WR's in the league? That'd be interesting to see.

[Cianne]

http://www.nflplayers.com/players_network/players_searchResults.aspx?searchType=COLLEGE&collegeSearch=Florida

Shows all the Florida players. I think you can make a better case for RBs coming out of Florida than you can for WRs. By a long shot actually.

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

WR U= Miami(Micheal Irvin, Santana Moss, Reggie Wayne)could also say Jeremy Shockely and Kellen Winslow
WR U=Michigan St.(Charles Rogers, Plaxico Burress, Andre Rison)
WR U=Michigan(Braylon Edwards, Desmond Howard won SB MVP, David Terrell)

All of these school are right now better than UF, if Jabar, Taylor Jacobs, and Ike Hillard go on to do great things then they'll be #1.

[GatorNation]

Caldwell was one the best in the entire league last year until he got hurt for the rest of the season. Hilliard's had some fantastic seasons. Taylor, I'll admit, has nowhere near filled his potential and probably never will. Gaffney's had a few so-so years? This is like his 3rd year in the NFL. He's got a great QB throwing to him, so watch for him to be an excellent WR in the league in the coming years.

Again, this was off the top of my head. There's got to be more.

I totally agree. ;)

And how can Braylon Edwards be used to argue for Michigan as WR U? He just got drafted. :rolleyes:

Charles Rodgers hasn't done anything special either.

UF has just as much of a claim to "WR U" as anyone else. And if Meyer's system takes off, that will only increase in the near future.

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

I totally agree. ;)

And how can Braylon Edwards be used to argue for Michigan as WR U? He just got drafted. :rolleyes:

Charles Rodgers hasn't done anything special either.

UF has just as much of a claim to "WR U" as anyone else. And if Meyer's system takes off, that will only increase in the near future.
Okay I didnt want to totally embarass UF but now I will
Add Andre Johnson to Miami(had a 1000 yards and will be a superstar!)
And maybe the most underrated WR U Ohio State(Chris Carter, Joey Galloway, Terry Glenn, and David Boston!)
Now beat that dont give me that wait to the future crap either!!! :cool:

[OrangeCrush]

Stanley Morgan
Willie Gault
Alvin Harper
Carl Pickens
Anthony Miller
Tim McGee
Kelly Washington(Active)
Donte Stallworth(Active)
Peerless Price(Active)
Cedrick Wilson(Active)

I'm not saying UT should be considered Wide Receiver U, but there was a time that people did say this about my Volunteers. This is probably 10-15 fifteen years ago that Tennessee was considered a top 5 WR U in all the land. You had the 80's where Gault, McGee, and Miller highlighted a supurb WR unit. In the early 90's Pickens and Harper were the standouts and very good pros. In the mid to late 90's Tennessee had some fantastic college receivers who did not translate into NFL players(Craig Faulkner, Cory Flemming, Marcus Nash, Joey Kent, Andy McCaullugh, Jermaine Copeland).
I would say that it goes in cycles and UF is up near the top right now. They have some solid receivers in the pros, but not many upper level receivers. The same can be said for the Vols in the pros. There is some talented players playing WR, but none of them has caught the league on fire. Price started off well in Buffalo, but can't be a #1 for the Falcons. Stallworth is probably the best of the bunch, but he cannot stay healthy. If Kelly Washington was as good as he thinks he is, then he would be up there with TO and Moss. Only his mouth comes close to comparing to those two. Cedrick Wilson has been a solid reciever for a pretty bad 49rs team.

[Neo]

I totally agree. ;)

And how can Braylon Edwards be used to argue for Michigan as WR U? He just got drafted. :rolleyes:

Charles Rodgers hasn't done anything special either.

UF has just as much of a claim to "WR U" as anyone else. And if Meyer's system takes off, that will only increase in the near future.


I disagree....

The University of Florida has flooded the NFL with WR's but actually not one of them except for Hilliard are marquee players.

Be honest with yourselves. :cool:

[WayzUp]

The thing is, out of that group you listed, Hilliard is really the only one do do anything near outstanding. Gaffney had some mediocre years. Taylor did ok for a while in Baltimore, but none are top flight receivers. I guess you can flood the NFL with mediocre receivers and name yourselves WR U.
South Carolina's products have produced more on the pro level, though they number about three times fewer in number.

But in terms of COLLEGE FOOTBALL, which is what the Gamecocks concern themselves with, UF's wideouts have consistently been among the nation's most dangerous. They've always got a flight of guys who are all good-but-not-great. And if you have 3 good-but-not-great WR's on the field all the time, you're gonna be successful. :cool:

It's also why even the best of their WR's turn out as good-but-not-great NFL receivers. It's all about the system....the system Spurrier installed all those years ago. :rolleyes: I'll take it. :D

[WayzUp]

Caldwell was one the best in the entire league last year until he got hurt for the rest of the season. Hilliard's had some fantastic seasons. Taylor, I'll admit, has nowhere near filled his potential and probably never will. Gaffney's had a few so-so years? This is like his 3rd year in the NFL. He's got a great QB throwing to him, so watch for him to be an excellent WR in the league in the coming years.

Again, this was off the top of my head. There's got to be more.
Caldwell was flourishing cuz San Diego started throwing the ball and found they could actually do it. I bet if DC's in the NFL wanted to, they'd make Caldwell disappear. Hilliard's best season is still not all that to brag about and he's been a season-ending injury waiting to happen just about every year he's spent in the league. Travis Taylor's numbers (stats & # of teams) speak for themselves.

Good point on Gaffney, Jay. He has shown promise but he'll forever be in Andre Johnson's shadow as long as he's with the Texans and why? Cuz everyone who has any football sense can see that Andre Johnson is clearly a better WR than Gaffney, so the Texans won't waste time even seeing what Jabar can do cuz it would take away touches for Andre. Gaffney's best-case scenario is becoming one of the NFL's best decoys, a la Reggie Wayne. And it took Wayne AWHILE to finally 'get it.'

All in all, UF has had some great players but virtually none have panned out as stars in the pros. It's all about the system....a system Spurrier installed all those years ago. :cool: I'll take it. :D

[fernandomike]

Though I typically don't, I am going to have to disagree with Lupo and Gatorhead on this one. Caldwell's success is as WayZup suggests. It is heavily dependent upon teams gearing their defenses to stop arguably the two top players in the league at their respective positions, tight end Antonio Gates and running back LaDainian Tomlinson. Let's face it, he is going to get single coverage all day long with those two guys out there.
I would say that UF's quantity has been pretty good, but they haven't really made the kind of impact that pundits anticipated. In my mind, Gaffney, Taylor, Hilliard and the rest just haven't done enough to earn the distinction of wide receiver u.

[GatorNation]

All in all, UF has had some great players but virtually none have panned out as stars in the pros. It's all about the system....a system Spurrier installed all those years ago. :cool: I'll take it. :D

So, are you saying that Spurs' system is to blame? It's fine if you do; I just want to make sure I understand your point.

[WayzUp]

So, are you saying that Spurs' system is to blame? It's fine if you do; I just want to make sure I understand your point.
What else could it be? It just seems to me the smallish, wiry and fast was (is?) the mold for UF wide receivers and that usually doesn't equate to a whole lot of success in the pro game because size is almost as important as speed in their eyes.

But as a college football and Gamecocks fan, I won't complain one bit if none of our future receivers goes to 4 consecutive Pro Bowls in the NFL as long as we win 9-10 games a year! :D Just as I'm sure the UF fans could care less since they have a National Championship these "underachievers" helped them to get. :cool:

Yes, it's definitely the system...I think. ;) I've been wrong before...lol

[GTmorris1970]

What else could it be? It just seems to me the smallish, wiry and fast was (is?) the mold for UF wide receivers and that usually doesn't equate to a whole lot of success in the pro game because size is almost as important as speed in their eyes.

But as a college football and Gamecocks fan, I won't complain one bit if none of our future receivers goes to 4 consecutive Pro Bowls in the NFL as long as we win 9-10 games a year! :D Just as I'm sure the UF fans could care less since they have a National Championship these "underachievers" helped them to get. :cool:

Yes, it's definitely the system...I think. ;) I've been wrong before...lol

I believe it has something to do with the system as well. Not a problem, works in college ball just fine. I thought I read an article right after Spurrier came here that mentioned the same thing. Cannot remember where I read it, though. :cool:

[scunyon]

I believe it has something to do with the system as well. Not a problem, works in college ball just fine. I thought I read an article right after Spurrier came here that mentioned the same thing. Cannot remember where I read it, though. :cool:


Search under anything that Ron Morris wrote, it's is undoubtedly in there somewhere :p

[GeauxTo]

An article on UF's WRs and the upcoming season.

WR U (http://www.alligator.org/pt2/050630foot.php)
With all due respect, there is no way the Florida WRs are better or deeper than the LSU WRs for 2005. This is a Gator publication, so what else should we expect? The number who have gone to the NFL don't really matter and won't mean a thing for the 2005 season. The Gators have one or two good ones; LSU has 6-8 great ones!
;)

[GatorNation]

With all due respect, there is no way the Florida WRs are better or deeper than the LSU WRs for 2005. This is a Gator publication, so what else should we expect? The number who have gone to the NFL don't really matter and won't mean a thing for the 2005 season. The Gators have one or two good ones; LSU has 6-8 great ones!
;)

Um...no. We have four that could start on any roster in America, including l-essU. It's the depth that isn't so great. But with Boateng and Nelson in the wings--in addition to this year's class--we'll be locked and loaded and ready to go.

[GeauxTo]

Um...no. We have four that could start on any roster in America, including l-essU. It's the depth that isn't so great. But with Boateng and Nelson in the wings--in addition to this year's class--we'll be locked and loaded and ready to go.
Yeah, right.
Did you catch Trev Albert on ESPN Sportscenter tonight?
He's high on the Tigers' WRs and overall talent and depth.
No mention of the Gators WRs.
;)

[WayzUp]

Yeah, right.
Did you catch Trev Albert on ESPN Sportscenter tonight?
He's high on the Tigers' WRs and overall talent and depth.
No mention of the Gators WRs.
;)
Geaux-man...if Trev Alberts' predictions and/or talent evaluations were to equate to a batting average, he'd be cut by the Pirates' farm system. I always find myself surprised when he's right. I'm not saying he is regarding the Bayou WR's or that UF does or doesn't have better WR's but I'd definitely take whatever Trev says with a huge grain of salt. This is a guy who predicted 8 or 9 wins for Nebraska (his alma mater) last year. :rolleyes:

May the SEC WR corp with the best QB situation by season's end win...that's my prediction. :D

[GatorNation]

Geaux-man...if Trev Alberts' predictions and/or talent evaluations were to equate to a batting average, he'd be cut by the Pirates' farm system. I always find myself surprised when he's right. I'm not saying he is regarding the Bayou WR's or that UF does or doesn't have better WR's but I'd definitely take whatever Trev says with a huge grain of salt. This is a guy who predicted 8 or 9 wins for Nebraska (his alma mater) last year. :rolleyes:

May the SEC WR corp with the best QB situation by season's end win...that's my prediction. :D

LOL....in the words of Ed Norton, "Nicely done." ;)

Trev Alberts is the ultimate homer. I do agree with one thing, though: the QB position MUST be solidified. Miles will need acceptable production out of his QB to get the job done. You could have Moss, T.O., and Rice suiting up in those ugly purple and yellow unis, and it wouldn't make a difference unless the tiggers found someone to get them the ball. ;)

Perhaps Russell will surprise us, but I'm not buying his '05 success until I see it.

We'll know after the UT game.

[JerryBeeds]

I think Russell came into his own in the Capital One bowl last year. He showed us against one of the best defenses in the country what he's capable of. If he plays like that this year, the Tigers are going to be SCARY!

[GatorNation]

I think Russell came into his own in the Capital One bowl last year. He showed us against one of the best defenses in the country what he's capable of. If he plays like that this year, the Tigers are going to SCARY!

Maybe....but one game does not a QB make.

Also, I think all of this talk about l-essU's WRs is just a bit overinflated. Here's what I found: only one l-essU receiver (Craig Davis) cracked the top-10 in SEC receiving output in 2004. Three Florida receivers (Small, Jackson, and Caldwell) made the list. In fact, Small led the conference with 5.3 y/g.; and that was in Zook's/Fedora's conservative offense.

I'm not saying l-essU doesn't have talented receivers--they do--but they might have a disappointing season trying to live up to all of this all-world hype, imo. According to the stats, they were largely MIA as a group last season. I'm sure a portion of that had to do with the QB situation (losing Mauck) and the fact that l-essU was #8 (SEC) in receptions and #6 (SEC) in passing yards (and #1 in SEC rushing), but I haven't seen enough improvement to suggest there will be a night-and-day difference in the QB position...at least enough to imagine l-essU will shift away from a (by "necessity") run-first offensive mentality.

It's important to remember that Miles is a much more conservative coach on offense....and, to my surprise, much less balanced than I initially thought. OkieState was dead last in both receptions and passing-yard categories in the Big XII for 2004. Yes, even Nebrasska beat them through the air.

:eek:

OSU's passing output of 1,722 would have bested only MSU and Bama in the SEC in 2004, and those stats came against the likes of Baylor, SMU, Tulsa, Iowa State, and Missouri (perspective = Nebrasska hung 59 on Baylor). Ouch. And, yes, Geaux, l-essU has more talent, but to use a tired-but-popular criticism of Meyer, the SEC is a much tougher conference. Gone are the days when Miles only had one or two tough games on the schedule (UT/OU). Now he'll face top-quality teams and talent (on the field and on the sideline) each week. And with uncertainty at the QB position, that's not a good combination. Of course, if RP starts, the whisperings of which I'm hearing a bit these days, Miles is in for a loooong season.

[Cianne]

I dunno. He winged the ball around quite a bit with Josh Fields and Rashaun Woods at OSU despite the fact that he had two NFL backs in Tatum Bell and Vernand Morency.

[WayzUp]

I dunno. He winged the ball around quite a bit with Josh Fields and Rashaun Woods at OSU despite the fact that he had two NFL backs in Tatum Bell and Vernand Morency.
That is true....but the Big 12 does have a lot softer of a bottom than does the SEC. Woods scored 7 touchdowns in one game but if memory serves, it was against SMU or Baylor...some crap team. But still, I think Woods finished up in the top 5 in career NCAA receptions for his career so OSU had to be throwing the ball quite a bit to get that done.

I don't think Miles is afraid to throw the ball...he's just going to find it a little harder to do when there are no Big 12 bottom feeders to bully around.

[GatorNation]

That is true....but the Big 12 does have a lot softer of a bottom than does the SEC. Woods scored 7 touchdowns in one game but if memory serves, it was against SMU or Baylor...some crap team. But still, I think Woods finished up in the top 5 in career NCAA receptions for his career so OSU had to be throwing the ball quite a bit to get that done.

I don't think Miles is afraid to throw the ball...he's just going to find it a little harder to do when there are no Big 12 bottom feeders to bully around.

Exactly....and I updated my post with some new Miles' stats at OSU. It'll help put things into broader perspective.

[Cianne]

That is true....but the Big 12 does have a lot softer of a bottom than does the SEC. Woods scored 7 touchdowns in one game but if memory serves, it was against SMU or Baylor...some crap team. But still, I think Woods finished up in the top 5 in career NCAA receptions for his career so OSU had to be throwing the ball quite a bit to get that done.

I don't think Miles is afraid to throw the ball...he's just going to find it a little harder to do when there are no Big 12 bottom feeders to bully around.

In 2002, Woods had 226 yards receving against Oklahoma. In 2003, 118 yards against Kansas State and 223 against Ole Miss (who really committed more to stopping Bell and Morency and limiting them to 110 yards). But, Woods was the only receiver worth throwing to in all these years and he still put up the numbers. He only accounted for more than half of Fields' passing yardage both years, and Fields through for 3145 yards in 2002 with 31 TDs. Even if it's against Baylor, they are going to be double covering him and these are players in D-1 schools that were undoubtedly recruited by other Big XII powerhouses.

[WayzUp]

In 2002, Woods had 226 yards receving against Oklahoma. In 2003, 118 yards against Kansas State and 223 against Ole Miss (who really committed more to stopping Bell and Morency and limiting them to 110 yards). But, Woods was the only receiver worth throwing to in all these years and he still put up the numbers. He only accounted for more than half of Fields' passing yardage both years, and Fields through for 3145 yards in 2002 with 31 TDs. Even if it's against Baylor, they are going to be double covering him and these are players in D-1 schools that were undoubtedly recruited by other Big XII powerhouses.
Righty-O...remember Carl Pickens was awesome with the Bengals when Jeff "I only throw to one receiver no matter what" Blake was looking in his direction constantly. Blake left Cincy and Pickens was barely heard from again in the NFL. Blake shows up in Arizona and a relative unknown rookie WR by the name of Anquan Boldin has a record breaking year while no other Arizona receiver gets over 500 yards or half the TDs. You only have to look at what Woods did in his first year in the NFL (14 games, 7 receptions, 160 yards, 1 TD) on a team who was playing from behind to see that he could have been a product of the Miles system instead of a bona-fide WR prodigy.

Does LSU have a WR with Rashaun Woods' physical ability? My guess is yes. Will Miles be able to turn that player's numbers into the kind Woods produced? That remains to be seen. :)

[Cianne]

Righty-O...remember Carl Pickens was awesome with the Bengals when Jeff "I only throw to one receiver no matter what" Blake was looking in his direction constantly. Blake left Cincy and Pickens was barely heard from again in the NFL. Blake shows up in Arizona and a relative unknown rookie WR by the name of Anquan Boldin has a record breaking year while no other Arizona receiver gets over 500 yards or half the TDs. You only have to look at what Woods did in his first year in the NFL (14 games, 7 receptions, 160 yards, 1 TD) on a team who was playing from behind to see that he could have been a product of the Miles system instead of a bona-fide WR prodigy.

Does LSU have a WR with Rashaun Woods' physical ability? My guess is yes. Will Miles be able to turn that player's numbers into the kind Woods produced? That remains to be seen. :)

I'm sure a lot of LSU fans wouldn't mind a receiver turning mediocre in the NFL if they dominated the college ranks like that :cool: Besides, I chalk up Woods' numbers in San Fran to the fact that he was playing in San Fran. I mean seriously, Tim Rattay and Ken Dorsey? Good thing they finally drafted a QB that has good arm strength. Now if they can only get a veteran QB to actually come out there and play for that whackjob owner they have.

[GatorNation]

In 2002, Woods had 226 yards receving against Oklahoma. In 2003, 118 yards against Kansas State and 223 against Ole Miss (who really committed more to stopping Bell and Morency and limiting them to 110 yards). But, Woods was the only receiver worth throwing to in all these years and he still put up the numbers. He only accounted for more than half of Fields' passing yardage both years, and Fields through for 3145 yards in 2002 with 31 TDs. Even if it's against Baylor, they are going to be double covering him and these are players in D-1 schools that were undoubtedly recruited by other Big XII powerhouses.

Yeah...he had a few good games. But if I remember correctly, Nebrasska's corners shut Woods down in 2003. So, it seemed to be hit or miss with him. Like OU's overinflated, media-darling status, I think most success in the Big XII can be chalked up to playing against poor-to-moderate talent.

Fields' 3K passing year might have been 1,500 against the top 5-7 SEC defenses.

[Cianne]

1700+ yards receiving in a season is more than just a few good games as well as saying hit or miss.

[GatorNation]

1700+ yards receiving in a season is more than just a few good games as well as saying hit or miss.

When he's the only offensive WR target on a team in a mediocre Big XII conference? I disagree.

If Cutler was a QB in the Big XII north, he'd win the Heisman on numbers alone.

[Cianne]

When he's the only offensive WR target on a team in a mediocre Big XII conference? I disagree.

If Cutler was a QB in the Big XII north, he'd win the Heisman on numbers alone.

Not true or Brad Smith would win it at Missouri. Cutler has a better receiver in Erik Davis to work with than Smith does.

[GatorNation]

Not true or Brad Smith would win it at Missouri. Cutler has a better receiver in Erik Davis to work with than Smith does.

Nah.....BS is all legs. Unless he had an Eric Crouch season and played in the NC, Smith wouldn't win it. He was only on the 2004 pre-season Heisman lists because Mizzu was supposed to take the north.

The Big XII just isn't that good. On the whole, it makes good talent look amazing. TTech scored 70 on Nebrasska, whose defense made Leach's offense look like it could take down the Patriots.

And we all saw what "big, bad, mighty" OU really had in the stables after USC's nationally-televised blowout.

[GeauxTo]

Geaux-man...if Trev Alberts' predictions and/or talent evaluations were to equate to a batting average, he'd be cut by the Pirates' farm system. May the SEC WR corp with the best QB situation by season's end win...that's my prediction. :D

Normally, I would agree with your assessment of Trev Alberts' predictions, but in this case, the boy was talking good about my Tigers.
:D

[WayzUp]

Normally, I would agree with your assessment of Trev Alberts' predictions, but in this case, the boy was talking good about my Tigers.
:D
LOL...i hear that. I've been bashing the Big 12 and Stoops forever but I saw Bob Stoops on the Budweiser Hot Seat on ESPNNEWS and when asked how many points per game he thought South Carolina would score per game this year under Spurrier. He answered "Oh I don't know....34?" and he instantly climbed my credibility meter. :D I do think Stoops has earned every bit of respect he gets...it's just the favoritism the media shows Oklahoma that creases me.

But yah, it's funny how a guy you think is overrated and/or an idiot gets a lot smarter when he talks good about your team. :D

[OmahaBound]

as a NY Giants fan I find it hard to believe that Ike Hilliard is being lauded as a quality example of UF possibly being WR U. admittedly injuries have been a problem for him, but his career with the Giants was a huge disappointment. he never had 1,000 yds receiving (though he came close once), and he never had 10 TD receptions in a season. he had that one year three seasons ago (or somewhere around then) where he got hot the second half and had 6 or 7 TD catches....but I think that created a total of 7 or 8 for the season.

more power to him if he succeeds with the Bucs, but i'm not too upset that he's gone, hehe. for a top 10 draft pick he's been a HUGE bust.

caldwell has some promise for the chargers though, with antonio gates taking up all the attention.

[GatorNation]

as a NY Giants fan I find it hard to believe that Ike Hilliard is being lauded as a quality example of UF possibly being WR U. admittedly injuries have been a problem for him, but his career with the Giants was a huge disappointment. he never had 1,000 yds receiving (though he came close once), and he never had 10 TD receptions in a season. he had that one year three seasons ago (or somewhere around then) where he got hot the second half and had 6 or 7 TD catches....but I think that created a total of 7 or 8 for the season.

more power to him if he succeeds with the Bucs, but i'm not too upset that he's gone, hehe. for a top 10 draft pick he's been a HUGE bust.

caldwell has some promise for the chargers though, with antonio gates taking up all the attention.

Yeah, well someone cited Braylon Edwards as a reason to consider Meeechigan as WR U. At least Hilliard played a down in the NFL.

[Cianne]

Yeah, well someone cited Braylon Edwards as a reason to consider Meeechigan as WR U. At least Hilliard played a down in the NFL.

You can throw in Tai Streets whose been as good as any Gator WR over the past years and Amani Toomer in for the proponents of the Michigan WR. There's nothing wrong with being a #2 WR or being a solid WR like Streets or Hilliard.

[Cianne]

Actually looking at the NFLPlayers website...Michigan State might be the best. They have 4 WRs in the NFL and all four are #1 or should be #1 in the case of Burress in New York. Derrick Mason is the #1 in Baltimore, Charles Rogers is the #1 in Detroit (now only if he wouldn't get hurt), and Muhsin Muhammed is the new #1 in Chicago taking passes from Grossman. That's pretty efficient.

[GeauxTo]

LOL...i hear that. I've been bashing the Big 12 and Stoops forever but I saw Bob Stoops on the Budweiser Hot Seat on ESPNNEWS and when asked how many points per game he thought South Carolina would score per game this year under Spurrier. He answered "Oh I don't know....34?" and he instantly climbed my credibility meter. :D I do think Stoops has earned every bit of respect he gets...it's just the favoritism the media shows Oklahoma that creases me.

But yah, it's funny how a guy you think is overrated and/or an idiot gets a lot smarter when he talks good about your team. :D
Yeah, and also, Trev Alberts has NEVER been a fan of LSU; quite the opposite. Boy, when Stoops says Darth Visor will score 34, that does make his stock rise. Who should know better than him what the Visor can do.
;)

[fernandomike]

Actually looking at the NFLPlayers website...Michigan State might be the best. They have 4 WRs in the NFL and all four are #1 or should be #1 in the case of Burress in New York. Derrick Mason is the #1 in Baltimore, Charles Rogers is the #1 in Detroit (now only if he wouldn't get hurt), and Muhsin Muhammed is the new #1 in Chicago taking passes from Grossman. That's pretty efficient.

That is an impressive group. Nice job, Cianne.

[WayzUp]

Yeah, well someone cited Braylon Edwards as a reason to consider Meeechigan as WR U. At least Hilliard played a down in the NFL.
They've had their share though...Anthony Carter, Amani Toomer, Desmond Howard, Derrick Alexander, Tai Streets....I know there are more...but for every former Wolverine who has produced, there's a Marquise Walker or David Terrell who have done nothing but disappoint.

[WayzUp]

The perfect find to spur more life to this debate. :D

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/Columnists/HistoricalDebate_WRURC.htm

This one does rank UF #1 though a quick look-through of the players mentioned proves my point that having the best WR in college does not necessarily mean those same WR's will be good on the pro level. In terms of strictly college football, the sheer number and frequency with which Florida produces solid WR's, there is no better school.

An added plus for GN....UT is #2. :D

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The perfect find to spur more life to this debate. :D

http://www.collegefootballnews.com/2004/Columnists/HistoricalDebate_WRURC.htm

This one does rank UF #1 though a quick look-through of the players mentioned proves my point that having the best WR in college does not necessarily mean those same WR's will be good on the pro level. In terms of strictly college football, the sheer number and frequency with which Florida produces solid WR's, there is no better school.

An added plus for GN....UT is #2. :D

HAHA....I love it. Anytime we can beat the Vols.... :D

And no one can really argue with EIGHT pro-bowlers.