Medical Marijuana

[GeauxTo]

How do you feel about medical marijuana?

[Neo]

I'm for the legalization of all narcotics. :cool:

<~ Card carrying Libertarian.

[IrmoCock]

Geaux. Where'd you come up with all the billboards. They're killing me here.

[JerryBeeds]

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[JerryBeeds]

I think you know where I stand.....

[BeeDee]

I believe that marijuana - both medicinal and recreational, should be totally legalized.

[cocky4ever]

I think you know where I stand.....
Yeah, anyone with a signature that says " I poke badgers with spoons" has had to have burned a few trees down in his lifetime. :D

[cocky4ever]

I believe that marijuana - both medicinal and recreational, should be totally legalized.
Im with you on that one.

[SeattleGamecocks]

I'm for the legalization of all narcotics. :cool:

<~ Card carrying Libertarian.
Ditto that. ESPECIALLY marijuana. My distrust of the FDA parallels that of my distrust in big government in general. And banning medical marijuana is absolutely ridiculous.

[Tator]

Legalize all drugs, then tax the hell out of them. Then take that tax revenue and build a ten story electric fence along both borders.

[uscrebel]

Yeah, anyone with a signature that says " I poke badgers with spoons" has had to have burned a few trees down in his lifetime. :D

Now that's classic.

[uscrebel]

Legalize all drugs, then tax the hell out of them. Then take that tax revenue and build a ten story electric fence along both borders.

That's fine, but if you build that big ole fence, how will the drugs get into the US.

[GamecocksRule]

That's fine, but if you build that big ole fence, how will the drugs get into the US.
Very good point indeed rebel :D

[JerryBeeds]

Yeah, anyone with a signature that says " I poke badgers with spoons" has had to have burned a few trees down in his lifetime. :D
I really do poke badgers with spoons. :p It' part of my job.... :D

[GamecocksRule]

I really do poke badgers with spoons. :p It' part of my job.... :D
(Ok, I have to say it Beeds..I have been wanting to ever since you changed your avatar)

Gosh! Freakin idiots! Get your own tots! LMAO!!!! :D :D :D

[SeattleGamecocks]

That's fine, but if you build that big ole fence, how will the drugs get into the US.
We import them legally. Pfizer and Philip Morris could ensure that they'd get here.

[USC66]

That's fine, but if you build that big ole fence, how will the drugs get into the US.

We can make and grow our own.

[Cianne]

I really do poke badgers with spoons. :p It' part of my job.... :D

That's an original sin according to Eddie Izzard. To the confession booth with you.

[scunyon]

We can make and grow our own.

What do you think is the only thing the Clemson School of Agriculture is good for ;)

[USC66]

What do you think is the only thing the Clemson School of Agriculture is good for ;)


Well.................. um........................ uh.................. ???????????????? :confused:

[Neo]

Well.................. um........................ uh.................. ???????????????? :confused:


Plucking cows...... :cool:

[scunyon]

Plucking cows...... :cool:

The cows they tip over at random provide them with an endless supply of methane marinated fertilizer.........they in turn use the MMF, as they call it, to produce the greenest, meanest, burns the cleanest sticky-icky ooooweeeee :p

[Neo]

The cows they tip over at random provide them with an endless supply of methane marinated fertilizer.........they in turn use the MMF, as they call it, to produce the greenest, meanest, burns the cleanest sticky-icky ooooweeeee :p



That stuff will strip the paint off of a locker. :cool: That stuff can kill cancer. :cool:

[Volnooga]

I am for the legalization of all narcotics as well. Instead of spending x ammount of dollars a day to keep Billy in jail for carrying a narcotic on his persons, why not use the money to finance education. You could also find the help billy needs if he is addicted with that money as well.

The black market creates a horrible scenario where gun toteing thugs fight with each other, and get rich. In the process of trying to make an extra buck or too, they start cutting the drugs with other substanses, making for a dangerous concoction. People are cooking Meth in old metal barrels and putting god knows what into the mix. If it were legal and made in a lab it could be much safer and more clean. Intake could be regulated or at least a doseage indicator could be put on the packageing.

Leave the regulation of morals in society to the parents of this nation, and leave goveronment out of it.

[WayzUp]

Legalize all drugs, then tax the hell out of them. Then take that tax revenue and build a ten story electric fence along both borders.
Anything for a big fence or wall eh, Tator? :D I agree though it makes way too much sense for it to ever happen, unfortunately.

But we can alwayz hope. ;)

[WayzUp]

That's fine, but if you build that big ole fence, how will the drugs get into the US.
Good question....

I know! We can make "Made In The USA" catapults and sell them to Mexico so they can just toss 'em over whenever we need an economic boost. It'd also create jobs! It's a win-win, bay-bee! :D

[BeeDee]

Why is it that we can all seem to agree on legalization. 100% of us, so far, but there's no real push for legalization in the U.S.? Do you think that if there were ever a voter referrendum on the issue, that it would pass?

[IrmoCock]

I am for the legalization of all narcotics as well. Instead of spending x ammount of dollars a day to keep Billy in jail for carrying a narcotic on his persons, why not use the money to finance education. You could also find the help billy needs if he is addicted with that money as well.

The black market creates a horrible scenario where gun toteing thugs fight with each other, and get rich. In the process of trying to make an extra buck or too, they start cutting the drugs with other substanses, making for a dangerous concoction. People are cooking Meth in old metal barrels and putting god knows what into the mix. If it were legal and made in a lab it could be much safer and more clean. Intake could be regulated or at least a doseage indicator could be put on the packageing.

Leave the regulation of morals in society to the parents of this nation, and leave goveronment out of it.

No one ever gets addicted to or killed by legal drugs, do they? I know that no one has ever been addicted to OxyContin. It's legal, it's intake is regulated, and doseage indicators are located on the packaging. This hasn't stopped countless kids (not to mention well meaning adults who really needed the stuff, at first) from having their lives distroyed. I'm just playing devil's advocate here for a minute, but I've got news for you.....Legalization of all narcotic substances is not the only answer to the drug problem in this country.

As for allowing the parents of this nation to regulate morals, I agree with you that they should, but do you think that all "parents" will hold the same standards as we do? Teaching morals is a slippery slope. Morals start off being taught as "do what's right." They progress into "as long as it doesn't hurt somebody else, what difference does it make what I do?" Before long, it becomes, "Who cares who I hurt? If it feels good do it."

I guess what I'm saying is, not everyone is blessed with parents who teach them there is such a thing as a moral compass. I know I'm probably going to get blasted for being the sole dissenting voice here, but so be it. I really don't want my kids to be able to see a junkie buying his smack at CVS and getting his fix in the parking lot. Maybe that's just me.

[OrangeCrush]

Why is it that we can all seem to agree on legalization. 100% of us, so far, but there's no real push for legalization in the U.S.? Do you think that if there were ever a voter referrendum on the issue, that it would pass?

I would have to believe this is tied to age. Your old-schoolers and baby boomers are more than likely going to be against legalization because of the goverment's stance on drugs for so many years. It is when we find ourselves as the older generation that this issue might have some legs. It will be tough as Anheiser Bush and other companies who sell alcohol do not want any competition. The other thing you have to look at is mothers and fathers. Most of them do not want drugs more readily available to their children. Even the ones who do not have as big a problem with narcotics or marijuana will be hesitant to agree to make it easier for their children to purchase. Last but not least, the goverment agencies that fight the "drug wars" such as the DEA would hate to regulation of illegal drugs as it would cost them quite a few jobs.

[WayzUp]

No one ever gets addicted to or killed by legal drugs, do they? I know that no one has ever been addicted to OxyContin. It's legal, it's intake is regulated, and doseage indicators are located on the packaging. This hasn't stopped countless kids (not to mention well meaning adults who really needed the stuff, at first) from having their lives distroyed. I'm just playing devil's advocate here for a minute, but I've got news for you.....Legalization of all narcotic substances is not the only answer to the drug problem in this country.

As for allowing the parents of this nation to regulate morals, I agree with you that they should, but do you think that all "parents" will hold the same standards as we do? Teaching morals is a slippery slope. Morals start off being taught as "do what's right." They progress into "as long as it doesn't hurt somebody else, what difference does it make what I do?" Before long, it becomes, "Who cares who I hurt? If it feels good do it."

I guess what I'm saying is, not everyone is blessed with parents who teach them there is such a thing as a moral compass. I know I'm probably going to get blasted for being the sole dissenting voice here, but so be it. I really don't want my kids to be able to see a junkie buying his smack at CVS and getting his fix in the parking lot. Maybe that's just me.
I agree with a lot of what you say, IC....but it's been my experience (being barely over 30, I understand i dont' have much), that the so-called problem children and people in general who are disadvantaged by coming from broken/dysfunctional homes are generally those who are having kids when they're not ready mentally, emotionally and financially and turn into bad parents themselves. So then they fail their kids who, in turn, turn into the next generation of disadvantaged people having kids when they aren't ready...and the cycle continues...

If the slippery slope starts anywhere, it's with too much sex/violence in the media. These 'bad parents' use the TV as a babysitter...if you ever watch MTV through the eyes of a parent, you'll know a lot of stuff on there are things a 9 year old shouldn't be watching 6 hours a day. And since the parents who let them learn about growing up by what they see in Christina Aguilera videos are obviously not involved enough to draw the line where it should be drawn, these 9 year olds turn into 13 year olds having sex.

As long as we have parents who put the time in and stay involved with their childrens' lives and have the parents who let the TV/Internet raise their kids, there will always be the kids who do well and stay out of trouble and there will always be the kids who do everything but. I guess my point is there will always be drug users as long as there are bad parents.....by finding a way to regulate them & tax the crap out of it, we'd be better prepared to identify and help those addicted, divert funds from fighting them (add tax revenue too) to education or whatever and it'd take a huge chunk of them off the streets. To me, it's a Pros versus Cons thing and I see more benefit than harm....i'm sure there are those out there who will disagree.

[uscrebel]

I agree with a lot of what you say, IC....[snip]

As long as we have parents who put the time in and stay involved with their childrens' lives and have the parents who let the TV/Internet raise their kids, there will always be the kids who do well and stay out of trouble and there will always be the kids who do everything but. ...[snip]

So Wayz, do your parents know how much time you spend on the Internet?
;) ;) ;)

[SeattleGamecocks]

Why is it that we can all seem to agree on legalization. 100% of us, so far, but there's no real push for legalization in the U.S.? Do you think that if there were ever a voter referrendum on the issue, that it would pass?
There was an innitiative here in WA that passed a couple years ago that all but decriminalized possession of marijuana. It made it the police's lowest priority. I thought it was kind of pointless at first cuz it doesn't mean they can't arrest you for it... but it does mean they can't waste yours and their time looking for a little weed. This could have spared me a little police harassment in Charleston on a couple occasions. :cool:

[WayzUp]

So Wayz, do your parents know how much time you spend on the Internet?
;) ;) ;)
:D Probably not...i would say I'm very fortunate to not have had the internet diversion in my formative years. Who knows how I would have turned out...lol :eek: But I work from home via VPN so I can justify my decadence somewhat now. I have to be online...FOR WORK! ...Anyone buying that? :rolleyes: nevermind. heh

But I will be keeping an extremely close eye on what my kids do on the computer & what they watch on TV. Not making excuses but it's quite easy to look back at my life and see where the supervision virtually disappeared is where I went from straight A's to nothing-but-trouble in a very short amount of time. Divorce & several moves can do that and trouble is an extremely easy thing to fall into...

[cocky4ever]

I basically look at it like this, if it grows in the ground it should be legal.

[Tator]

As a secondary plan to my "tax & big wall" idea, I would say to make narcotics legal only on the third Wednesday of every other February, for ten seconds(which ten seconds will be randomly chosen by lottery each time) and only if this day corresponds to your 37th birthday and the ten seconds falls within the minute that you where born as indicated on your original (no copies) birth certificate.

If you meet all requirments, you may legally purchase and use any narcotic of your choosing but, only at locations designated by the local police. However, youmust consume all narcotics prior to the ten second deadline. Afterwhich, if you are found to have any remaining narcotics, or are still under the influence of said narcotics, you will be shot.

Those caught purchasing or using narcotics outside of these "free use" periods will be shot without question.


See, we can make drugs legal AND get rid of the addiction problem all in one fell swoop.

[cocky4ever]

I basically look at it like this, if it grows in the ground it should be legal.
Its like Bill Hicks said:

Why is marijuana against the law? It grows naturally upon our planet. Doesn't the idea of making nature against the law seem to you a bit... unnatural? You know what I mean? It's nature. How do you make nature against the #&$%#% law?

[USC66]

I've posted something about this before. The reason marijuana is illegal is MONEY. If it were legal, it would practically put the cotton industry out of business. If it were legal, it would cut a huge chunk out of the Timber industries profits. That's why it is illegal. The people passing our laws are looking out for others. The hemp stalk is one of the strongest fibers in the world, one of the best producers of pulp, and it grows easily in most climates. If you want to know why something is, look to see who stands to lose the most money! :)

[GTmorris1970]

I've posted something about this before. The reason marijuana is illegal is MONEY. If it were legal, it would practically put the cotton industry out of business. If it were legal, it would cut a huge chunk out of the Timber industries profits. That's why it is illegal. The people passing our laws are looking out for others. The hemp stalk is one of the strongest fibers in the world, one of the best producers of pulp, and it grows easily in most climates. If you want to know why something is, look to see who stands to lose the most money! :)

Marijuana is a sore subject for Carolina fans right now. :D ;)

[USC66]

Marijuana is a sore subject for Carolina fans right now. :D ;)

What if it was legal? I know it's not but would it make a difference if it were? You can bet it would.

[GTmorris1970]

What if it was legal? I know it's not but would it make a difference if it were? You can bet it would.

I suppose it would depend on if he allowed it, kind of like alcohol. Most of these guys are not old enough to drink, but we all know many of them do. :cool:

[BeeDee]

I've posted something about this before. The reason marijuana is illegal is MONEY. If it were legal, it would practically put the cotton industry out of business. If it were legal, it would cut a huge chunk out of the Timber industries profits. That's why it is illegal. The people passing our laws are looking out for others. The hemp stalk is one of the strongest fibers in the world, one of the best producers of pulp, and it grows easily in most climates. If you want to know why something is, look to see who stands to lose the most money! :)
OK, I understand the cotton industry comment, but please explain the timber industry thing... I don't get that part.

[WayzUp]

OK, I understand the cotton industry comment, but please explain the timber industry thing... I don't get that part.
What's not to understand? People who want to smoke at home simply build their house out of the stuff. Don't tell me you've never heard the term "smoking me out of house and home." :rolleyes:


joking.:D

[supergenius]

OK, I understand the cotton industry comment, but please explain the timber industry thing... I don't get that part.
That is a new angle I have not thought of but I think there are other reasons. 1. The medical industry would no longer get to gig cancer patients $300 plus per pill for nausea relief or $500 plus for a shot.
2. The government has yet to find a way to tax it.

Bottom line is we agree, it all comes down to the allmighty greenback.

[cocky4ever]

OK, I understand the cotton industry comment, but please explain the timber industry thing... I don't get that part.

Legalizing industrial hemp has the potential to yield substantial environmental benefits, especially as a substitute for wood in paper making. Industrial hemp yields two-to-four times more pulp per acre under cultivation than do trees. Paper made from industrial hemp is also stronger, able to be recycled more times and longer lasting than paper from trees. Compared to wood, fewer chemicals are required to convert hemp into paper pulp.


http://www.lightparty.com/Energy/Hemp6.html

Of course, thats just for hemp and not marijuana. Marijuana probably wouldnt be very good at all for making paper. Either way, if they wont legalize hemp they sure as hell arent gonna legalize marijuana.

[SeattleGamecocks]

Before its legalized I want to get some of those marijuana "tax" stamps they're selling in SC. For collecting of course; my days of that have long passed. I know there are some dumb dealers out there, but no one would actually comply w/ this stamp idea. Do any other states have these?

And yeah, its all about the $$.

[BeeDee]

Legalizing industrial hemp has the potential to yield substantial environmental benefits, especially as a substitute for wood in paper making. Industrial hemp yields two-to-four times more pulp per acre under cultivation than do trees. Paper made from industrial hemp is also stronger, able to be recycled more times and longer lasting than paper from trees. Compared to wood, fewer chemicals are required to convert hemp into paper pulp.


http://www.lightparty.com/Energy/Hemp6.html

Of course, thats just for hemp and not marijuana. Marijuana probably wouldnt be very good at all for making paper. Either way, if they wont legalize hemp they sure as hell arent gonna legalize marijuana.

Aaaah, paper. Makes sense.

[USC66]

OK, I understand the cotton industry comment, but please explain the timber industry thing... I don't get that part.

Sorry BeeDee and all other posters. I'm not keeping up with the posts like I should (working too much) but I see cocky4ever has already answered. Pulp.

[USC66]

Legalizing industrial hemp has the potential to yield substantial environmental benefits, especially as a substitute for wood in paper making. Industrial hemp yields two-to-four times more pulp per acre under cultivation than do trees. Paper made from industrial hemp is also stronger, able to be recycled more times and longer lasting than paper from trees. Compared to wood, fewer chemicals are required to convert hemp into paper pulp.


http://www.lightparty.com/Energy/Hemp6.html

Of course, thats just for hemp and not marijuana. Marijuana probably wouldnt be very good at all for making paper. Either way, if they wont legalize hemp they sure as hell arent gonna legalize marijuana.

I hadn't thought of the oil but it's just another reason to legalize it. The article is a good argument for industrial hemp(IH) being legalized. Still, it comes back to $$$$. I didn't realize the difference in IH and the actual marijuana stem. I thought they were one and the same(dagummit). :D Good find.