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OmahaBound
06-15-2005, 12:00 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159606,00.html

i fear bringing this up again considering how the initial debate lasted forever, but this is pretty much the end of the story so it can't be ignored.

plus it might be amusing to read some more debate on the topic....dance, puppets, dance!!!

Autopsy: Schiavo Was Not Abused
Wednesday, June 15, 2005

Terri Schiavo (search) died from dehydration and was not abused before her 1990 collapse, an autopsy report revealed Wednesday.

The report also showed there was no evidence Schiavo was given harmful drugs or other substances before her death. The severely brain-damaged woman, who was at the heart of a right-to-die battle, died March 31, 13 days after being disconnected from her feeding tube.

Jon Thogmartin (search), the Pinellas-Pasco medical examiner, told reporters that Schiavo would not have lived after her feeding tube was removed even if she had been fed or given liquids by mouth.

"Removal of her feeding tube would have resulted in her death whether she was fed or hydrated by mouth or not," Thogmartin told reporters.

Her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, had fought their son-in-law, Michael Schiavo, in court for seven years over her fate. The Schindlers also had wanted to give Terri Schiavo nutrition through her mouth after her tube was removed.

The autopsy revealed there was no conclusive evidence that Schiavo had an eating disorder. The report said Schiavo drank a lot of tea and caffeine could have led to her heart attack in 1990, which resulted in a persistent vegetative state.

"There's nothing in her autopsy report that is inconsistent with a persistent vegetative state," said Dr. Stephen J. Nelson, a medical examiner who assisted in the autopsy.

Thogmartin also said Schiavo was blind, her brain was half its normal size and she was suffering from severe osteoporosis at the time of death.

"The brain weighed 615 grams, roughly half of the expected weight of a human brain. ... This damage was irreversible, and no amount of therapy or treatment would have regenerated the massive loss of neurons."

The autopsy was unable to reveal much about what led to Schiavo's collapse in 1990. Thogmartin said a review of hospital records of her collapse showed she had a diminished potassium level in her blood. But he said that did not prove she had an eating disorder, because the emergency treatment she received at the time could have affected the potassium level.

The cause of her collapse has never been definitely proven, but testimony in a 1992 civil trial indicated that she probably was suffering from an eating disorder that led to a severe chemical imbalance.

The Schindlers, though, don't believe she had an eating disorder and have accused Michael Schiavo of abusing his wife, a charge he vehemently denied.

Speaking before the report was issued, Michael Schiavo's attorney, George Felos, said the Schindlers continue to engage in a "smear campaign against Michael to deflect the real issues in the case, which were Terri's wishes and her medical condition."

Bill Pellan, chief investigator for the medical examiner's office, said Tuesday that Thogmartin reviewed police reports, medical records and other documents in trying to determine the cause of her brain damage.

During the long legal battle, numerous abuse complaints made to state social workers were ruled unfounded.

Michael Schiavo convinced the courts his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially with no hope of recovery, contending that she made statements to that effect before her collapse.

Her parents doubt she had any such end-of-life wishes and also disputed that she was in a persistent vegetative state. They believed she could get better with therapy.

Neo
06-15-2005, 12:02 PM
Now where are all of those people that said Mr. Schiavo beat up his wife?

Complete and utter vindication! :cool:

rebeldude
06-15-2005, 12:15 PM
These reports are good news, years of tragedy in this family can now be put to rest. Hopefully.

GamecocksRule
06-15-2005, 12:42 PM
These reports are good news, years of tragedy in this family can now be put to rest. Hopefully.
I agree. I am very glad that the autopsy was done..I hope everyone's 'doubts' can be put to rest now..not just the family's.

cocky4ever
06-15-2005, 12:50 PM
I agree. I am very glad that the autopsy was done..I hope everyone's 'doubts' can be put to rest now..not just the family's.
Yeah, and hopefully everyone involved can move on, especially direct family members.

scunyon
06-15-2005, 03:17 PM
Terri can rest in peace, Michael can live in peace and her parents lawyers can break off a piece of their nest egg.

It always feels good when a person is vindicated like this, especially when (not to sound sexist) a man is cleared of a abusing his wife. Too many times men get a bad rap as being unsupportive (in addition to being abusive), and I believe that he did more than his fair share to try and help his wife.

It's a shame that her parents could not be more realistic and trust the people that went to medical school for umpteen years, who basically told them that it was over for Terri and that she was never going to be the same again.

scunyon
06-15-2005, 03:18 PM
On the way down from their soap-box, her parents owe Michael an apology, not like he'll get it though :rolleyes:

Neo
06-15-2005, 03:22 PM
On the way down from their soap-box, her parents owe Michael an apology, not like he'll get it though :rolleyes:


What I think is funny is the fact that the parents accused Michael Schiavo of being "Money-Hungry" while they in fact, sold the names/addresses/telephone numbers of people that registered at their website to a telemarketing firm for roughly 1.8 million dollars. :cool:

GamecocksRule
06-15-2005, 03:40 PM
What I think is funny is the fact that the parents accused Michael Schiavo of being "Money-Hungry" while they in fact, sold the names/addresses/telephone numbers of people that registered at their website to a telemarketing firm for roughly 1.8 million dollars. :cool:
Exactly what I was thinking.. :)

OmahaBound
06-15-2005, 03:45 PM
What I think is funny is the fact that the parents accused Michael Schiavo of being "Money-Hungry" while they in fact, sold the names/addresses/telephone numbers of people that registered at their website to a telemarketing firm for roughly 1.8 million dollars. :cool:

wow! i had never heard that before. credibility dwindling....dwindling....dwindling...gone.

Neo
06-15-2005, 03:47 PM
wow! i had never heard that before. credibility dwindling....dwindling....dwindling...gone.


It was all over the news the day after she died. I'm surprised that you didn't hear about it. I believe I posted a link to the story somewhere on here. :cool:

OmahaBound
06-15-2005, 03:52 PM
It was all over the news the day after she died. I'm surprised that you didn't hear about it. I believe I posted a link to the story somewhere on here. :cool:

the story dragged on too long so at a certain point i just stopped paying attention. it was all the same info being vocalized over and over again....apparently i left too quickly though, hehe.

Neo
06-15-2005, 03:54 PM
the story dragged on too long so at a certain point i just stopped paying attention. it was all the same info being vocalized over and over again....apparently i left too quickly though, hehe.


I'm pretty sure I posted it in the Terri Schiavo thread. It's just plain sick. :cool:

cocky4ever
06-15-2005, 04:36 PM
I'm pretty sure I posted it in the Terri Schiavo thread. It's just plain sick. :cool:
Exactly. Its like:

"Hey guys. Thanks for supporting us in the exploitation of our daughter. Thanks for missing work and sending your children to get arrested. We swear we hear her talking (even though, as it turned out, her brain was only half the size of an average brain and was basically null and void.) She is in pain right now and they are doing things to her that are cruel and unusual. Oh, but once again, hey thanks for the support. Wait a minute...whats that? She just died. Oh, in that case thanks for all the addresses. Now go to hell.

scunyon
06-15-2005, 05:09 PM
What I think is funny is the fact that the parents accused Michael Schiavo of being "Money-Hungry" while they in fact, sold the names/addresses/telephone numbers of people that registered at their website to a telemarketing firm for roughly 1.8 million dollars. :cool:


:eek: WTF?!?! Are you serious?! I mean, I know that you are, but WTF?! And they call him money hungry?! That must be what they used for their legal bill :rolleyes:

Neo
06-15-2005, 05:11 PM
:eek: WTF?!?! Are you serious?! I mean, I know that you are, but WTF?! And they call him money hungry?! That must be what they used for their legal bill :rolleyes:


I'm serious as a heart attack. Do a search on here for "Terri Schiavo" and read the official Schiavo thread here. You will be surprised. :cool: