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BeeDee
05-17-2005, 12:03 PM
From http://www.collegefootballnews.com/sec/2005_Previews/Mississippi_Preview.htm

Memories are very short in Oxford. A solid program for years under head coach David Cutcliffe, Ole Miss was just this close to playing for the SEC title in 2003 finishing 10-3 with a Cotton Bowl win. One 4-7 season later and it's the start of the Ed Orgeron era.
A surprise hire, Coach O will make things very interesting in Oxford with his excitement and passion ready to wake everyone up. The former USC defensive line coach goes 100 miles per hour all the time with an infectious enthusiasm that should help turn the Rebels from a polite also-ran to a tremendous pain in the butt for the traditional SEC powers.

The experience is there for a big turnaround campaign led by a defense that could become a killer under Orgeron with a big, strong line, a decent secondary and a potentially great linebacking corps. The offense can't be much worse after only averaging 19.55 points per game and with the improvement of the quarterbacks, the attack won't be a liability anymore.

But can Ole Miss really become a yearly player in a division with Alabama, Auburn and LSU? Coach O is demanding nothing less, but it's going to take him a while to get the hang of being the boss. Expect his raw fire to make up for early mistakes with no excuses being if things go wrong. Look for the team to match the coach's personality and always play full tilt.

The Schedule: It's an interesting first month with revenge games against Memphis and Wyoming wrapped around the SEC opener at Vanderbilt. As far as road dates go in the SEC, you can't ask for anything more than playing the Commodores. The first three games are must wins with a trip to Tennessee to kick off October. If the Rebels can win at home over Alabama, they'll have a nice midseason three-game winning streak (sure to beat The Citadel and Kentucky) before the finishing kick starting off at Auburn.

Best Offensive Player: Senior OT Tre Stallings. While he's not the player former Rebel stars Chris Spencer, Doug Buckles and Marcus Johnson were, he's a big, strong lineman who could end up moving to guard if needed.

Best Defensive Player: Junior LB Patrick Willis. About to be the breakout star of 2005, the 230-pound man in the middle has great range and tremendous instincts. He'll be a top tackler from the word go.

Key player to a successful season: Senior QB Micheal Spurlock. He has a slight edge for the starting quarterback (http://www.collegefootballnews.com/sec/2005_Previews/Mississippi_Preview.htm#) job over Ethan Flatt and Robert Lane after looking far more confident than he was last year. If there's a quarterback rotation again, the offense isn't going to be much better.

The season will be a success if ... Ole Miss wins eight games. There's only one sure loss on the slate (at Tennessee) and one other more-than-likely loss (at Auburn). LSU and Alabama have to travel to Oxford where Coach O is sure to have the home crowd more than a little jacked up for the showdowns. A winning season would be nice, but a seven-plus win campaign is a reasonable goal.

Key game: Oct. 15 vs. Alabama. The Rebels have to make Vaught-Hemingway an intimidating bear trap. A win over the Tide would do just the trick. A win could mean a 6-1, or at worst, a 5-2 start.

uscrebel
05-17-2005, 03:22 PM
My general response is to be in agreement with the summary...that is, if the quarterback situation IS actually better and if the O Line can keep everybody else out, we will be in a minor bowl with 6 or 7 wins (Memphis, Vandy, Wyoming, Citadel, Kentucky, and Arkansas and maybe a home game against one of the big boys.)

I don't think that we will need more of a test than Mem & Vandy to know which way the season will go.

GeauxTo
05-17-2005, 09:48 PM
LSU and Alabama have to travel to Oxford where Coach O is sure to have the home crowd more than a little jacked up for the showdowns.

I agree; Coach Orgeron will be good, but to get the Rebs jacked up enough to beat LSU, even at Oxford, will be little short of miraculous; or, as Webster would say, "So remarkable as to elicit disbelief:
amazing, astonishing, astounding, fabulous, fantastic, fantastical, incredible, marvelous, phenomenal, prodigious, stupendous, unbelievable, wonderful, wondrous";)

rebeldude
05-18-2005, 07:24 AM
I agree; Coach Orgeron will be good, but to get the Rebs jacked up enough to beat LSU, even at Oxford, will be little short of miraculous; or, as Webster would say, "So remarkable as to elicit disbelief:
amazing, astonishing, astounding, fabulous, fantastic, fantastical, incredible, marvelous, phenomenal, prodigious, stupendous, unbelievable, wonderful, wondrous";)

Geauxto, I read a little homerism and humor in this post, but in reality I do not see that beating LSU in Oxford will require any Miracle or matter of fact any of the obove mentioned Webster references. We must remember, (and you know as well as I that LSU/Ole Miss is always a good one), Ole Miss came into Baton Rouge last season sporting a 3-5 record. Low and behold, did my eyes and ears decieve me NO, the Rebels Left Baton Rouge with ONLY a 3 point loss. So is beating LSU in Oxford this year really going to require a miracle, considering the Rebels will be greatley improved, absolutely not!! I honestly hope LSU comes into Oxford undefeated and ranked in the top 5, that is when the Rebels will be at their best. Could LSU leave Oxford with a loss? Well the answer is simple. YES!!!!!!!!!! :) :)

BeeDee
05-18-2005, 08:20 AM
I agree; Coach Orgeron will be good, but to get the Rebs jacked up enough to beat LSU, even at Oxford, will be little short of miraculous; or, as Webster would say, "So remarkable as to elicit disbelief:
amazing, astonishing, astounding, fabulous, fantastic, fantastical, incredible, marvelous, phenomenal, prodigious, stupendous, unbelievable, wonderful, wondrous";)
There are two games each year on Ole Miss' schedule that can always go either way, regardless of the records of the two competitors. Those two are LSU and Moo-U. The level of emotion between State and Ole Miss has dwindled a bit over the last few years, with Jackal Sherrie's piss poor teams and Coach Croom's rebuilding, but the animosity and intensity between Ole Miss and LSU has grown exponentially, especially after that heartbreaking loss in Oxford in 2003. You guys are gonna have your hands full. I'm not predicting a win for the Rebels, but I certainly wouldn't place any large wagers on behalf of the Tigers in this one.

uscrebel
05-18-2005, 08:46 AM
Geauxto...

Let me jump in with my brothers here. Since the 1920's, the longest winning streak that LSU has had against the Rebels is five games. In fact, most of the 15 game advantage that LSU has in the overall series can be accounted for in the years between 1894 and 1937 where LSU holds 20 - 7 advantage. Since 1938 the series is a much more respectable 32-30...and we are due.

GeauxTo
05-18-2005, 03:58 PM
Geauxto, I read a little homerism and humor in this post, but in reality I do not see that beating LSU in Oxford will require any Miracle or matter of fact any of the obove mentioned Webster references. We must remember, (and you know as well as I that LSU/Ole Miss is always a good one), Ole Miss came into Baton Rouge last season sporting a 3-5 record. Low and behold, did my eyes and ears decieve me NO, the Rebels Left Baton Rouge with ONLY a 3 point loss. So is beating LSU in Oxford this year really going to require a miracle, considering the Rebels will be greatley improved, absolutely not!! I honestly hope LSU comes into Oxford undefeated and ranked in the top 5, that is when the Rebels will be at their best. Could LSU leave Oxford with a loss? Well the answer is simple. YES!!!!!!!!!! :) :)Geauxto...
Let me jump in with my brothers here. Since the 1920's, the longest winning streak that LSU has had against the Rebels is five games. In fact, most of the 15 game advantage that LSU has in the overall series can be accounted for in the years between 1894 and 1937 where LSU holds 20 - 7 advantage. Since 1938 the series is a much more respectable 32-30...and we are due.There are two games each year on Ole Miss' schedule that can always go either way, regardless of the records of the two competitors. Those two are LSU and Moo-U. The level of emotion between State and Ole Miss has dwindled a bit over the last few years, with Jackal Sherrie's piss poor teams and Coach Croom's rebuilding, but the animosity and intensity between Ole Miss and LSU has grown exponentially, especially after that heartbreaking loss in Oxford in 2003. You guys are gonna have your hands full. I'm not predicting a win for the Rebels, but I certainly wouldn't place any large wagers on behalf of the Tigers in this one.Nice posts, BD, rebeldude and usc.
If my comments have negatively impacted your enjoyment of this forum, I do apologize! Ha-Ha

Dude, I honestly hope LSU comes into Oxford undefeated and ranked in the top 5, too, because I certainly want to see the Rebels at their best.

And usc, we are all due, some more than others. But statistician that you are, you realize that the Qualitative elements in football often outweigh the Quantitative elements; statistically speaking, of course.
:p

rebeldude
05-18-2005, 05:01 PM
Nice posts, BD, rebeldude and usc.
If my comments have negatively impacted your enjoyment of this forum, I do apologize! Ha-Ha

Dude, I honestly hope LSU comes into Oxford undefeated and ranked in the top 5,too, because I certainly want to see the Rebels at their best.

And usc, we are all due, some more than others. But statistician that you are, you realize that the Qualitative elements in football often outweigh the Quantitative elements; statistically speaking, of course.
:p

Negative impact? Absolutely not Geaux. I am Rebeldude, here me roar.The rougher it gets, the more fun it is.(I'm talking about discussing). Just ask BD. LOL

GeauxTo
05-18-2005, 05:12 PM
Negative impact? Absolutely not Geaux. I am Rebeldude, here me roar.The rougher it gets, the more fun it is.(I'm talking about discussing). Just ask BD. LOLOutstanding, Rebeldude! Ha-Ha
By the way, I am hoping that I can come over to Oxford this year to enjoy that great Grove atmosphere! Will I be safe in my LSU wash n wear?
;)

uscrebel
05-18-2005, 06:22 PM
Outstanding, Rebeldude! Ha-Ha
By the way, I am hoping that I can come over to Oxford this year to enjoy that great Grove atmosphere! Will I be safe in my LSU wasn n wear?
;)

To my knowledge, there has never been a fight in the Grove. The party after the game does not seem to change much, win or lose. The Last time I was there, Alabama had just beaten us. Four Tidepoolers we had never seen before came to our site and starting talking. They joined us and when i left at 2:00am, they were still there...having a hell of good time.

GeauxTo
05-18-2005, 08:27 PM
To my knowledge, there has never been a fight in the Grove. The party after the game does not seem to change much, win or lose. The Last time I was there, Alabama had just beaten us. Four Tidepoolers we had never seen before came to our site and starting talking. They joined us and when i left at 2:00am, they were still there...having a hell of good time.
I sure hope we can go. The Grove is my kind of place, and the Hotty Toddy crowd is usually very congenial and classy, as are most of the people in Mississippi.
;)

rebeldude
05-19-2005, 07:14 AM
Outstanding, Rebeldude! Ha-Ha
By the way, I am hoping that I can come over to Oxford this year to enjoy that great Grove atmosphere! Will I be safe in my LSU wash n wear?
;)

You might hear a little trash talk and smell some good food, but other than that it's typical SEC football.Wear your LSU colors proud and enjoy the game. I don't think your going to leave real happy, :) but you'll have a good time. Make sure your in the Grove during the walk of Champions, Thats pretty exciting.

bbqit
05-21-2005, 12:07 AM
You might hear a little trash talk and smell some good food, but other than that it's typical SEC football.Wear your LSU colors proud and enjoy the game. I don't think your going to leave real happy, :) but you'll have a good time. Make sure your in the Grove during the walk of Champions, Thats pretty exciting.


All true Rebeldude. My brother n law is excited about this year too. I gave him a grill top that says OLE MISS so when he cooks the brisket it will have branded OLE MISS on it. He is hotty toddy ready.