Spurrier is Overrated...

[BetweenTheHedges]

I can't wait for these USC fans, who think Spurrier is going to duplicate what he did at UF, to fall flat on their faces again. SOS will not have the same success he had at UF simply because he doesn't have the talent. Back in his glory days, UGA had a mediocre program with mediocre talent and mediocre coaching. All he had to beat was Tenn. This is a different era. UGA has arguably the most talent, arguably the best program, and arguably the best coaching. Its ludicrous to think that SOS will take USC to the promise land like he did UF.

The last 'legend coach' you guys brought in didn't exactly do that great outside of one or two decent years.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I can't wait for these USC fans, who think Spurrier is going to duplicate what he did at UF, to fall flat on their faces again. SOS will not have the same success he had at UF simply because he doesn't have the talent. Back in his glory days, UGA had a mediocre program with mediocre talent and mediocre coaching. All he had to beat was Tenn. This is a different era. UGA has arguably the most talent, arguably the best program, and arguably the best coaching. Its ludicrous to think that SOS will take USC to the promise land like he did UF.

The last 'legend coach' you guys brought in didn't exactly do that great outside of one or two decent years.
I knew this was coming. Shift the focus from "Shockley Sucks!" to "Spurrier is Overrated..." Priceless! :rolleyes:

One BIG difference - We're not saying Spurrier will take us to the promised land this year.

[BetweenTheHedges]

I guess USC fans can have an opinion on Shockley but UGA fans can't have an opinion on Spurrier? Now thats priceless.

[Neo]

I knew this was coming. Shift the focus from "Shockley Sucks!" to "Spurrier is Overrated..." Priceless!


Yep...Spurrier is overrated even though he's 11-1-0 against UGA and outscored them 436-199. :rolleyes:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_opponents.php?coachid=2206


See.....Spurrier has coached in the SEC before, he knows good and well what's involved. :cool:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

I can't wait for these USC fans, who think Spurrier is going to duplicate what he did at UF, to fall flat on their faces again.
Hope you're ready for a long wait........ ;) because it won't happen in your lifetime.

[JBryant12]

I can't wait for these USC fans, who think Spurrier is going to duplicate what he did at UF, to fall flat on their faces again. SOS will not have the same success he had at UF simply because he doesn't have the talent. Back in his glory days, UGA had a mediocre program with mediocre talent and mediocre coaching. All he had to beat was Tenn. This is a different era. UGA has arguably the most talent, arguably the best program, and arguably the best coaching. Its ludicrous to think that SOS will take USC to the promise land like he did UF.

The last 'legend coach' you guys brought in didn't exactly do that great outside of one or two decent years.

i dont know what your talking about??? Holtz did a great job...before him we just wanted to win a game or two and maybe not be the worst team in the SEC and now we expect to play in a bowl game every year...i dunno about you but i see an extremely BIG difference....before Holtz 5 and 6 win seasons would never have been big dissapointments....Holtz got us to the level of being able to compete with SEC opponents and now Spurrier will take us to the next level....the level where we compete for SEC championships....

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Yep...Spurrier is overrated even though he's 11-1-0 against UGA and outscored them 436-199. :rolleyes:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_opponents.php?coachid=2206


See.....Spurrier has coached in the SEC before, he knows good and well what's involved. :cool:
Wow, we've got a better record against Spurrier than UGA does. :) lol

[Neo]

Wow, we've got a better record against Spurrier than UGA does. :) lol


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[Cocky1]

"This is a different era. UGA has arguably the most talent, arguably the best program, and arguably the best coaching."

It may be true that UGA has more talent, definitely not the best program nor the best coaching however with the recruiting that Steve Spurrier is capable of do you not believe that in the near future if not this year that USC and Spurrier will be one hell of a force to reckon with. UGA has had an abundance of talent over the past few years with teams that had the capabilities of winning a NC, however what did your coaching staff do with it. The leader in wins in the SEC (Greene) couldn't even propel y'all to a NC. On a yearly basis UGA falls short of their potential which is a sign that your coaching staff ain't $*it. So you worry bout y'all, we will worry bout us and we will see on 9/10/05.

[uscrebel]

This coaching stuff is a lot more complicated than it seems. Despite his less than stellar performance in the NFL, I have to admit that I was quite chagrined when Spurrier went to SoCar. Although we have done well against Florida the last few years, I am realistic about the talent and assumed that they would never be a "sure win" on our schedule. SoCar, however, had that potential. I know that for several years when I would look at our schedule, I if the Cocks were on there, I would list them as a win. Holtz did bring their level of play up just a bit and I fear that over time, Spurrier may do the same. It may take hem a bit longer than it did at Florida, but I believe that at the worst he will be able to make 8 or 9 games the standard expectation at SoCAR. Being in the division with TEN, UGA, and FLA will always be a problem for them...but no more than Ole Miss faces by being in a division with LSU, AUB, & ALA.

I kinda like the visor-tossing, smack-talking arrogant SOB image...but then again, I liked Fran Kush and Woody Hayes, too.

[BetweenTheHedges]

Yep...Spurrier is overrated even though he's 11-1-0 against UGA and outscored them 436-199. :rolleyes:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/coaching/alltime_coach_opponents.php?coachid=2206


See.....Spurrier has coached in the SEC before, he knows good and well what's involved. :cool:

As I said before, Those days are over. We have MUCH more talent, MUCH better coaching, and a MUCH better program. What was Tennessee's record against UGA before Richt arrived? What is it since? Stop living in the past Neo.

[Neo]

As I said before, Those days are over. We have MUCH more talent, MUCH better coaching, and a MUCH better program. What was Tennessee's record against UGA before Richt arrived? What is it since? Stop living in the past Neo.


I'm not...I'm just refuting an otherwise radical comment.

Okay, but I will play the game your way. I will just use the last five (5) years that Spurrier played UGA as the model.

Spurrier is 4-1-0 against UGA. (Last 5 years)
Spurrier's team outscored UGA 143-91. (Last 5 years)

:cool:

[BetweenTheHedges]

Also, if you want to compare coaches...

Spurrier was 5-8-1 against Florida St. where Richt was Offensive Coordinator.

[Neo]

Also, if you want to compare coaches...

Spurrier was 5-8-1 against Florida St. where Richt was Offensive Coordinator.



Now you're REALLY reaching! LOL!!!!! :D :cool:


I didn't start to compare anyone. This was a Spurrier vs. UGA comparison. You said Spurrier was overrated and I was just posting statistics. You know you have won an argument when someone brings up another teams success against your so-called team.

[BetweenTheHedges]

Now you're REALLY reaching! LOL!!!!! :D :cool:


I didn't start to compare anyone. This was a Spurrier vs. UGA comparison. You said Spurrier was overrated and I was just posting statistics. You know you have won an argument when someone brings up another teams success against your so-called team.

Your talking about Coaches. You're comparing Spurrier against Goff, Donnan, etc....coaches that aren't even with us anymore.

[Neo]

Your talking about Coaches. You're comparing Spurrier against Goff, Donnan, etc....coaches that aren't even with us anymore.


Nope...

I was comparing Spurrier to UGA. Not individual coaches.

BTW: Spurrier coached against Richt and won. :cool:

[BetweenTheHedges]

Nope...

I was comparing Spurrier to UGA. Not individual coaches.

BTW: Spurrier coached against Richt and won. :cool:

That was Richt's first year and 1 game is sort of a small sample size.

Not that this has any relevance but Steve Spurrier was listed in the ESPN bracket of overrated individuals...

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/overrated/bracket/finalfour.html

[Neo]

Not that this has any relevance but Steve Spurrier was listed in the ESPN bracket of overrated individuals..


You need to read a little closer. Here, I'll quote it for ya.

"Still waiting to see on-field pro performance to match his underrated college rep."

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/overrated/round1/jeter_spurrier.html

I think someone just got OWNED!

[BetweenTheHedges]

You need to read a little closer. Here, I'll quote it for ya.

"Still waiting to see on-field pro performance to match his underrated college rep."

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/overrated/round1/jeter_spurrier.html

No...I read that. If he was such a good coach, you would think it would translate to the next level.

[drkralc]

How can you be overrated with a 142-40-2 record in two of the arguably best conferences on the planet?

[Neo]

No...I read that. If he was such a good coach, you would think it would translate to the next level.



That is the MOST asinine comment I've seen on SECTalk.com since joining. Do you really believe that?????? Here's a short list of coaches that were great in college, but busted in the NFL.

Steve Spurrier
Butch Davis
Lou Holtz
Pete Carroll
Al Groh
Dennis Erickson
Tom Coughlin

The NFL is a totally different beast than college football and it's just plain crazy to compare the two. :cool:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Also, if you want to compare coaches...

Spurrier was 5-8-1 against Florida St. where Richt was Offensive Coordinator.

“You Know You’ve Lost The Argument If:”
(read it like “You May Be A Red Neck If”):
1. You divert the attention from one topic to another (questions on
Shockley’s abilities in one thread to Spurrier’s non-existing deficiencies).
2. You deny the record of a man that OWNED you because you think your
team is different than it used to be.
3. However, you go back in time and compare Spurrier’s record against
another school to your coach’s record when he was JUST an assistant at
that school.
4. You admit you are an UGA fan. ;)

[Volnooga]

I wouldn't say Spurrior is overrated, he is an excellent X's and O's guy. An offensive Mastermind. However, when he first came to UF, I'd say he was ahead of his time. I think the last few years at UF, the rest of the SEC Elite had caught on to his schemes and had pretty good Ds in place to make it a game. I don't think he is going to have any where near the same kind of success at USC that he had at UF, but he is still going to get USC a couple more wins per season than holtz did. With a big upset from time to time as well.

Now, on to the Shockley Sucks thread :D

[fernandomike]

No...I read that. If he was such a good coach, you would think it would translate to the next level.

No doubt that his style did not translate well to the NFL. That is why when I talk about him I always mention that he is a great COLLEGE coach. I love having the man back in the league and I don't think that the USC fans on this site have been out-of-line at all with their expectations. Very few Cocks have made outlandish comments. Most are simply optimistic. I have seen between 6-8 wins predicted by them with 7 sounding about right to me.
Spurrier will have an impact. COACHES DO NOT GO TO THE NFL AND GET DUMBER. I don't think that he will dominate in the way that he did in the past, but USC can reasonably expect to get in the mix in the east.

[Neo]

No...I read that. If he was such a good coach, you would think it would translate to the next level.


Damn!!!

You know you've lost an argument when you get Tennessee fans in the thread defending Spurrier. That's taking into consideration how much UT fans hate SOS. :D :cool:

[BetweenTheHedges]

Damn!!!

You know you've lost an argument when you get Tennessee fans in the thread defending Spurrier. That's taking into consideration how much UT fans hate SOS. :D :cool:

When does the season start??? ;)

[Volnooga]

<~~~~~~~~ Loved hating Spurrior and is extremely glad he is back. Especially at USC and not UF...

[drkralc]

When does the season start??? ;)
USC' starts on Sep 1st, UGA starts on Sep 17th

[JBryant12]

we play UGA on the 10th....

[SPURED]

I wouldnt be suprised if a few SEC schools see something New from spurrier that he picked up while in the NFL. and about Spurriers record against Free Shoes, Who is there coach??How many Wins does that guy have?? Bowden was winning many football games before Richt was even an assistant so i highly doubt he was the Main Reason FSU had a winning record against Spurs.

[IrmoCock]

UGA has arguably the most talent, arguably the best program, and arguably the best coaching. The most important word in this entire thread. I beg to differ. Here goes: Please, please, puleeeeze let me differ. Ok, enough begging. I agree, UGA has good talent, a good program, and pretty good (at best) coaching. Best is waaaaay too strong a word for you guys. Just my .02. :D

[jneesy]

WOOOOOOHOOOOO I'm a happy boyneo found a new bullseye


ok when you gonna change that sig?

[BetweenTheHedges]

I wouldnt be suprised if a few SEC schools see something New from spurrier that he picked up while in the NFL. and about Spurriers record against Free Shoes, Who is there coach??How many Wins does that guy have?? Bowden was winning many football games before Richt was even an assistant so i highly doubt he was the Main Reason FSU had a winning record against Spurs.

Actually richt was OC starting in the early 90's.

[hmsdawgs]

And now I realize how many Cock fans there really are on this board...and while we are all entitled to our own opinions...how can you, Neo, sit and bash our QB who has virtually no game time experience and tell me how bad he is going to suck; and some one else cant say that your coach who has never coached a game at South Carolina is going to be overrated? Spurrier has been out of the college game for a while and has definitely been out of the game with an average team like SC for even longer.
We will just have to wait and see how things play out this year...until then, you Cock fans shouldn't get so defensive when someone claims your new coach may be overrated.

[BetweenTheHedges]

And now I realize how many Cock fans there really are on this board...and while we are all entitled to our own opinions...how can you, Neo, sit and bash our QB who has virtually no game time experience and tell me how bad he is going to suck; and some one else cant say that your coach who has never coached a game at South Carolina is going to be overrated? Spurrier has been out of the college game for a while and has definitely been out of the game with an average team like SC for even longer.
We will just have to wait and see how things play out this year...until then, you Cock fans shouldn't get so defensive when someone claims your new coach may be overrated.

HMS...you should know by now...this board is full of Carolina fans who are experts at other teams. They know more about our team than we do. :p

[SilverBritches]

On a yearly basis UGA falls short of their potential which is a sign that your coaching staff ain't $*it.

We fell short one year and that was this past year. And 10-2 is not bad at all. USC dreams for a 10 win season and we have had 3 in a row. Just shows you how good our program really is when 10 wins is disappointing. In 2002 and 2003 we overachieved. Take a look at the winning percentages the past 5 years. That will show you just how "$hitty" our coaches are. Did you know our former DC won the broyles award for best assistant coach in the land and that he is now caoching in the NFL? Yep, must be really "$hitty" according to your moronic logic. But you know, we will see in September right.

[Djshockley3]

We fell short one year and that was this past year. And 10-2 is not bad at all. USC dreams for a 10 win season and we have had 3 in a row Just shows you how good our program really is when 10 wins is disappointing. In 2002 and 2003 we overachieved. Take a look at the winning percentages the past 5 years. That will show you just how "$hitty" our coaches are. Did you know our former DC won the broyles award for best assistant coach in the land and that he is now caoching in the NFL? Yep, must be really "$hitty" according to your moronic logic. But you know, we will see in September right.

Oh man silver when I read this I was mad,but I see that you have taken care of it great job.

[Djshockley3]

HMS...you should know by now...this board is full of Carolina fans who are experts at other teams. They know more about our team than we do. :p

I know they are so worried about bama and UGA that they dont even realize they have there own problems.

[Neo]

And now I realize how many Cock fans there really are on this board...and while we are all entitled to our own opinions...how can you, Neo, sit and bash our QB who has virtually no game time experience and tell me how bad he is going to suck; and some one else cant say that your coach who has never coached a game at South Carolina is going to be overrated?



Show me the statistics that shows Spurrier is overrated? That's just a plain ol' ignorant statement. How can you say he's overrated when he has an 11-1 career record against UGA? That sounds like sour grapes to me. If you wanna make a point, at least make a rational point and have evidence to back up your conclusion. :cool:



Spurrier has been out of the college game for a while and has definitely been out of the game with an average team like SC for even longer.
We will just have to wait and see how things play out this year...until then, you Cock fans shouldn't get so defensive when someone claims your new coach may be overrated.


I have to agree with Fernando. You don't get dumber by going to the NFL. You can actually benefit in college by bringing some NFL aspects to the college game.

We're not getting defensive. We're just responding to a "Hate Driven" statement. What is your argument on how he's overrated? What I think is super funny is that USC has a better record against Spurrier than UGA does. :cool:

[SPURED]

Actually richt was OC starting in the early 90's.
Bowden would have won with or without Richt as OC. thats why the man has over 300 wins. that just shows you that not many Coaches have succeeded against Bowden. So there is no way you could possibly argue that Richt is the reason Bowden has been so successfull and beatin Spurrier head to head 8-5(?) so for spurrier to beat the winningest coach in college football 5 times pretty damn good if you ask me. not to mention if Spurrs had stayed with the gators and played FSU the last three years there is no doubt in my mind he would have tied that series up, with the way FSU has been playing recently. Remember Bowden made Richt a better coach not the other way around

[bbqit]

When does the season start??? ;)


104 days 13 hrs 41 min

[BetweenTheHedges]

Bowden would have won with or without Richt as OC. thats why the man has over 300 wins. that just shows you that not many Coaches have succeeded against Bowden. So there is no way you could possibly argue that Richt is the reason Bowden has been so successfull and beatin Spurrier head to head 8-5(?) so for spurrier to beat the winningest coach in college football 5 times pretty damn good if you ask me. not to mention if Spurrs had stayed with the gators and played FSU the last three years there is no doubt in my mind he would have tied that series up, with the way FSU has been playing recently. Remember Bowden made Richt a better coach not the other way around

Ever since Richt left, the FSU winning has gone down. Coincidence?

[Neo]

Ever since Richt left, the FSU winning has gone down. Coincidence?


Yep...

Where are you getting your stats from??? If you are referring to FSU winning MNC's, then you are correct.

Florida State won;

11 in 2000
8 in 2001
9 in 2002
10 in 2003
9 in 2004

Where are these so called losses or dropoffs? To me, it would appear that FSU is still on the top of their game. :cool:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/acc/florida_state/yearly_results.php?year=2000

[SPURED]

Yep...

Where are you getting your stats from??? If you are referring to FSU winning MNC's, then you are correct.

Florida State won;

11 in 2000
8 in 2001
9 in 2002
10 in 2003
9 in 2004

Where are these so called losses or dropoffs? To me, it would appear that FSU is still on the top of their game. :cool:

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/acc/florida_state/yearly_results.php?year=2000

Neo did you look at floridas records since 2000?

2000: 10-3-0
2001: 10-2-0
2002: 8-5-0
2003: 8-5-0
2004: 7-5-0

In 2000 and 2001 were teams coached under Spurrier. 2002-04 were coached under Zook.. Since 1990 under Spurrier Florida had 3 seasons where they won less than 10 games. in the 3 years since spurrier left florida they have yet to win 10 games. But spurrier is Overated

[GatorNation]

UGA has arguably the most talent, arguably the best program, and arguably the best coaching.

The most important word in this entire thread. I beg to differ. Here goes: Please, please, puleeeeze let me differ. Ok, enough begging. I agree, UGA has good talent, a good program, and pretty good (at best) coaching. Best is waaaaay too strong a word for you guys. Just my .02. :D

Uh-ga is one of the elite programs in the SEC....even in the nation. Not sure how anyone else could argue it differently. BUT I think Hedges is overstating the dawg's case. Yes, I think Richt's offensive skills helped Bowden.....and F$U's offensive struggles of late seem to confirm that (and, yes, I'm aware that a good portion of that had to do with Rix, but he can't be blamed for it all). The "failure" of the 2003 season makes me question whether Richt is a better OC than he is a HC.

Georgia is certainly not the best program. They can't be, if only because their record of success is more spotty than some of the other top teams: one NC in the early 80s, one isolated SEC title in 2002, only SIX appearances in "BCS" bowl games since 1960, and a bunch of underachieving seasons following a host of over-hyped pre-season predictions. According to my files, Uh-ga has only even BEEN to 2 SECCGs....at least while the SECCG existed. When you throw in Spurrier's "decade of dominance," one should eliminate even the most fleeting thoughts of "best program of all time" honors. Individually, of course, those things are not THAT damaging because the SEC is such a difficult conference, but when they are taken as a whole, the resultant historical commentary is not as optimistic as dawg fans would like it to be.

Uh-ga is a quality program, top-15 (maybe even top-10) of all time.....but not any better than that, imo.

[SilverBritches]

Uh-ga is one of the elite programs in the SEC....even in the nation. Not sure how anyone else could argue it differently. BUT I think Hedges is overstating the dawg's case. Yes, I think Richt's offensive skills helped Bowden.....and F$U's offensive struggles of late seem to confirm that (and, yes, I'm aware that a good portion of that had to do with Rix, but he can't be blamed for it all). The "failure" of the 2003 season makes me question whether Richt is a better OC than he is a HC.

Georgia is certainly not the best program. They can't be, if only because their record of success is more spotty than some of the other top teams: one NC in the early 80s, one isolated SEC title in 2002, only SIX appearances in "BCS" bowl games since 1960, and a bunch of underachieving seasons following a host of over-hyped pre-season predictions. According to my files, Uh-ga has only even BEEN to 2 SECCGs....at least while the SECCG existed. When you throw in Spurrier's "decade of dominance," one should eliminate even the most fleeting thoughts of "best program of all time" honors. Individually, of course, those things are not THAT damaging because the SEC is such a difficult conference, but when they are taken as a whole, the resultant historical commentary is not as optimistic as dawg fans would like it to be.

Uh-ga is a quality program, top-15 (maybe even top-10) of all time.....but not any better than that, imo.

Gator, I like you. You post what you think as a football fan, not as Florida fan.

[DENTSVILLECOCK]

We beat you without him, we will certainly beat you with him.

Now, go watch your gymdawgs.

[SilverBritches]

We beat you without him, we will certainly beat you with him.

Now, go watch your gymdawgs.

Is there something wrong with the gymdawgs? They did just win yet another national championship.

[BeeDee]

2. You deny the record of a man that OWNED you because you think your
team is different than it used to be.
Isn't that exactly what USC fans are doing? In another thread USC fans claim that they'll beat Bama - who they're 3-9 against and Clemson, who they're 35-63-4 against. If having a different team isn't a valid criteria for improvement against a team/coach that you've had problems with, then what is valid? And besides, what exactly is it other than change, that Spurrier is supposed to be bringing to USC? Has he not put together a different team than Holtz?

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Isn't that exactly what USC fans are doing? In another thread USC fans claim that they'll beat Bama - who they're 3-9 against and Clemson, who they're 35-63-4 against. If having a different team isn't a valid criteria for improvement against a team/coach that you've had problems with, then what is valid? And besides, what exactly is it other than change, that Spurrier is supposed to be bringing to USC? Has he not put together a different team than Holtz?

BeeDee, you must be having a slow night. ;) This was a statement I made a month ago when someone was comparing Spurrier's record against Free Shoes University while Richt was an an offensive coordinator at FSU. Go back and read the entire post (and what triggered the post). They were trying to justify that Richt was a better coach than Spurrier based on that flawed logic. Plus the post was a stab at humor (similar to "You might be a Redneck if"). Geez...... :p

[BeeDee]

BeeDee, you must be having a slow night. ;) This was a statement I made a month ago when someone was comparing Spurrier's record against Free Shoes University while Richt was an an offensive coordinator at FSU. Go back and read the entire post (and what triggered the post). They were trying to justify that Richt was a better coach than Spurrier based on that flawed logic. Plus the post was a stab at humor (similar to "You might be a Redneck if"). Geez...... :p
Slow night, indeed. I read the entire thread before I posted and I stand behind what I said. I understand that you were trying to be humorous in your delivery (albeit poorly executed, IMO), but there was no sarcasm denoted in regards to the content of your statement.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

(albeit poorly executed, IMO)
OK, now you've done it. You've gone and hurt my feelings. However, I'll get over it one day..............................





OK, I'm over it. ;)

[GTmorris1970]

Slow night, indeed. I read the entire thread before I posted and I stand behind what I said. I understand that you were trying to be humorous in your delivery (albeit poorly executed, IMO), but there was no sarcasm denoted in regards to the content of your statement.

He has brought change in every aspect. He brings records and achievements as a head coach that may never be matched, he brings a new sense of excitement to the city and to the football players, he has brought more speed to this roster than certainly I have EVER seen since 98, he brings fun to the table for the players, almost demanding they have fun in practice and on the field. He is not the bastard many people, including myself, used to think he was. At least not so far. He is strict, but he will laugh and cut up with the players as well. He brings hope of a better day. He constantly says he realizes the expectations, and takes them seriously. He uses that as a challenge to himself. Yes, everything is different about this football team under Spurrier. If you had trouble with the talent on this team with us running the QB draw 2 out of 3 plays in the past, just consider what you could be facing now. :cool:

[BeeDee]

He has brought change in every aspect. He brings records and achievements as a head coach that may never be matched, he brings a new sense of excitement to the city and to the football players, he has brought more speed to this roster than certainly I have EVER seen since 98, he brings fun to the table for the players, almost demanding they have fun in practice and on the field. He is not the bastard many people, including myself, used to think he was. At least not so far. He is strict, but he will laugh and cut up with the players as well. He brings hope of a better day. He constantly says he realizes the expectations, and takes them seriously. He uses that as a challenge to himself. Yes, everything is different about this football team under Spurrier. If you had trouble with the talent on this team with us running the QB draw 2 out of 3 plays in the past, just consider what you could be facing now. :cool:
Precisely my point, GT. He has brought change.

[BeeDee]

OK, now you've done it. You've gone and hurt my feelings. However, I'll get over it one day..............................
OK, I'm over it. ;)

Hehe, you ain't no Larry the Cable Guy ;)

[jbuzbee]

Spurrier hasn't done anything yet....except trim the roster size! Pretty soon Tenn. and USC are gonna be playin their games from a prison yard. Who is USC's quarterback? It's sad when the only person getting pub for a team is the coach....(just so you know USC fans...he ain't strappin on the pads this year). The only player I hear about on USC is Ko Simpson and ex-players on their way to prison....oh, and that 50 year old receiver ya'll have. good luck.

[AFWarrior83]

Spurrier is a great ball coach, Flordia just had the beach as a recruiting tool, I think it's going to take at least 3 years, but they will be a force to deal with soon, but as for now, I am writting a W on our schedule this year against them, he hasn't had enough time to build the program. When kids hear about him all the time, they will want to go there and play for him, Lou Holts was just too old to have anything in common with his players/recruits. I hope Nutt can turn around our only loosing season under him, 5-6 isn't acceptable for Arkansas, 7-4 is and I think that's going to be our record this year.

[GTmorris1970]

Spurrier hasn't done anything yet....except trim the roster size! Pretty soon Tenn. and USC are gonna be playin their games from a prison yard. Who is USC's quarterback? It's sad when the only person getting pub for a team is the coach....(just so you know USC fans...he ain't strappin on the pads this year). The only player I hear about on USC is Ko Simpson and ex-players on their way to prison....oh, and that 50 year old receiver ya'll have. good luck.

Thanks. We are gonna have a great year. Do some research my friend. If that is all you know about Carolina's roster, you know nothing about Carolina's roster. :cool:

[GatorNation]

He has brought change in every aspect. He brings records and achievements as a head coach that may never be matched, he brings a new sense of excitement to the city and to the football players, he has brought more speed to this roster than certainly I have EVER seen since 98, he brings fun to the table for the players, almost demanding they have fun in practice and on the field. He is not the bastard many people, including myself, used to think he was. At least not so far. He is strict, but he will laugh and cut up with the players as well. He brings hope of a better day. He constantly says he realizes the expectations, and takes them seriously. He uses that as a challenge to himself. Yes, everything is different about this football team under Spurrier. If you had trouble with the talent on this team with us running the QB draw 2 out of 3 plays in the past, just consider what you could be facing now. :cool:

The only problem I see is that Spurrier's "fun-n-gun" is no longer an innovative offense. It's a system that had been on the decline near the end of the 90s. I think Spurrier will eventually push usc past Holtz's limits, but the offense will probably not generate the output of the early-mid 90s. SEC coaches have seen it. They know it. And those who don't know it now have plenty of film on how to stop it.

[GTmorris1970]

The only problem I see is that Spurrier's "fun-n-gun" is no longer an innovative offense. It's a system that had been on the decline near the end of the 90s. I think Spurrier will eventually push usc past Holtz's limits, but the offense will probably not generate the output of the early-mid 90s. SEC coaches have seen it. They know it. And those who don't know it now have plenty of film on how to stop it.

It will be interesting to see how it works and if there are any twists in it. :)

[GatorNation]

It will be interesting to see how it works and if there are any twists in it. :)

And I'd also be concerned with the long-term affect that Spurs' horrific NFL stint will have at usc. If you're a top flight recruit, you have to at least consider whether Spurs' systems will prepare you for the next level. Maybe they did in the mid 90s (though with the recent criticism of UF as "WR U," perhaps that isn't the case...), but the NFL is 10 years older and more developed. Maybe it's nothing to worry about, but simply something interesting to ponder.

It's just my opinion, but it seems like football, in general, has adapted and progressed while Spurs remained static, relying upon previous tatics and strategies.

[GTmorris1970]

And I'd also be concerned with the long-term affect that Spurs' horrific NFL stint will have at usc. If you're a top flight recruit, you have to at least consider whether Spurs' systems will prepare you for the next level. Maybe they did in the mid 90s (though with the recent criticism of UF as "WR U," perhaps that isn't the case...), but the NFL is 10 years older and more developed. Maybe it's nothing to worry about, but simply something interesting to ponder.

It's just my opinion, but it seems like football, in general, has adapted and progressed while Spurs remained static, relying upon previous tatics and strategies.

So far, a lot of top offensive prospects have at least talked to Spurrier, and have said great things about their visits to Carolina. Like you said, we will have to wait and see.

[Noah.Dreams]

Steve Spurrier is a genius. He will attract the talent to put USC in the championship game in 2007.

[GatorNation]

Steve Spurrier is a genius. He will attract the talent to put USC in the championship game in 2007.

Yeah, if Fulmer, Richt, and Meyer slide in three years. Not likely to happen, imo.

[scgamecock27]

Yes we are so bad thats why yall beat us by 40 points last year with your high powered offense and your super deffense oh thats right yall beat little old usc by 4 points Im so sorry that we are so bad s.s is not a proven winner but the mighty coach m.r is the man of the hour.So just meet us on the 50 yrd line

[scgamecock27]

see we are looking forward to the future because we have no past but these bulldogs are looking at the past because they have no future

[Cianne]

Yes we are so bad thats why yall beat us by 40 points last year with your high powered offense and your super deffense oh thats right yall beat little old usc by 4 points Im so sorry that we are so bad s.s is not a proven winner but the mighty coach m.r is the man of the hour.So just meet us on the 50 yrd line

Someone needs to come up with some device that shocks the keyboard's user when they spout out such an abomination of the English language. Punctuation atleast would make this readable. Who and what are you talking about?

[HSVTider]

Someone needs to come up with some device that shocks the keyboard's user when they spout out such an abomination of the English language. Punctuation atleast would make this readable. Who and what are you talking about?

He's calling out UGA..

[Djshockley3]

Yes we are so bad thats why yall beat us by 40 points last year with your high powered offense and your super deffense oh thats right yall beat little old usc by 4 points Im so sorry that we are so bad s.s is not a proven winner but the mighty coach m.r is the man of the hour.So just meet us on the 50 yrd line


How old are you,do you need to go back to 1st grade Billy Madison. :D

[pc72687]

My God, lets learn how to be civil. Yes Stevie's offense is revolutionary any more (many offenses now pass, alot). But a passing offense brings alot more to the table in today's game then an old school just run the ball every down like we have been doing. And I am not sure if any USC fans are saying UGA or Bama are sure wins they are just games we see as possible victories. Not sure ones. But then again no game is a sure victory.

[hudstud09]

UGA may not have mediocre talent or coaching any more but I have to say they're the third most over rated program in the country. Behind Texas and Notre Dame respectively. You always here big things about Georgia every year but they never live up to expectations. It would be like taking my LSU team of 1998 and repeating year after year. And there's only been one game out of six that I've been to at Sanford stadium where the fans showed up on time and stayed for the whole game. The talent and coaching may not be mediocre but the fans still are.

[rabidcock]

The only problem I see is that Spurrier's "fun-n-gun" is no longer an innovative offense. It's a system that had been on the decline near the end of the 90s. I think Spurrier will eventually push usc past Holtz's limits, but the offense will probably not generate the output of the early-mid 90s. SEC coaches have seen it. They know it. And those who don't know it now have plenty of film on how to stop it.

This may be very true, however, if Spurs is really an offensive mastermind, perhaps his mind is still mastering. In other words, he may have a few tweaks and twists to add to the previous offense of the 90's (which, at that time, needed no altering because of its effect).

All true innovative coaches, who have been successful for more than a few enigmatic years, have made constant modifications to their systems, in order to maintain their effective qualities.

[LedCock]

This may be very true, however, if Spurs is really an offensive mastermind, perhaps his mind is still mastering. In other words, he may have a few tweaks and twists to add to the previous offense of the 90's (which, at that time, needed no altering because of its effect).

All true innovative coaches, who have been successful for more than a few enigmatic years, have made constant modifications to their systems, in order to maintain their effective qualities.

Agreed rabid. A lot of guys think that Spurrier may have rusted up while he's been gone from the college sidelines. But I have to remind you that he was coaching most of those years and it was in the NFL. He may not have been successful during those brief years there but you know he learned as much as you can about the game while he was there. Seeing new offenses and defenses can only broaden your creativity. ;)

[rabidcock]

And I'd also be concerned with the long-term affect that Spurs' horrific NFL stint will have at usc. If you're a top flight recruit, you have to at least consider whether Spurs' systems will prepare you for the next level. Maybe they did in the mid 90s (though with the recent criticism of UF as "WR U," perhaps that isn't the case...), but the NFL is 10 years older and more developed. Maybe it's nothing to worry about, but simply something interesting to ponder.

It's just my opinion, but it seems like football, in general, has adapted and progressed while Spurs remained static, relying upon previous tatics and strategies.

It is obvious that he thought his system was so perfect, that it would translate well on the pro level. After two short years (if I recall correctly), he found this not to be the case. However, if he had stayed around, the outcome may have been different, as his record wasn't all that bad, albeit below .500.

I'm sure an intelligent fellow like Spurs realizes that things have changed, so whether or not he has remained static remains to be seen. My guess is he has not. Only time will tell.

[Hunkerdown_hairydawg]

Spurrier is a good coach I hate him but hes good but hes never been between the Hedges the thing they called "half way meeting" when Georgia and Fla played Georgia had to go 3 times as far as Fla did mark it down guys spurrier wont win in the sec.....Sorry but its true

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

Spurrier is a good coach I hate him but hes good but hes never been between the Hedges the thing they called "half way meeting" when Georgia and Fla played Georgia had to go 3 times as far as Fla did mark it down guys spurrier wont win in the sec.....Sorry but its true
If Lou Holtz can beat UGA in Sanford then Spurrier can win Between the Hedges, and if I remeber correctly when the Jaguars where renovating Alltell, they played a home and home, and Neo can look this up but the Ole Ball Coach put up a 50 spot on the Dawgs in Sanford so he can win there. But dont worry that wont happen this year Dawg fans USC doesnt have the depth yet but just wait in 2007! ;)

[pc72687]

I am not so sure. I think we will at least put up a fight with Georgia. No matter how good they really are they seem to always play a close game with us. Not sure if it is early season jitters or if they just don't start off well.