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WayzUp
04-23-2005, 06:35 PM
The SEC is runnin away with the number of quality players drafted.....it isn't even worth keepin count anymore. But not too long ago, right after a certain quarterback got picked from a certain team that went unbeaten last year a thought crossed my mind and it needs to be recognized.

FOUR PLAYERS were chosen FROM THE SAME TEAM in the first two rounds of the 2005 NFL draft and they never were allowed to play for the national championship. No one beat them, they met every challenge, accomplished every goal....Auburn was @$%@#$% incredible last year and it will never stop bothering me that they weren't given a shot against So(low)Cal for the NC. Jason Campbell, Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, Carlos Rogers, Ronnie Brown, the list goes on...that's a team they'll be talking about 20 years from now...it's sad they never got the due they deserve but at least the 2005 NFL draft shows the talent Auburn had this past year.

Grats to you guys....awesome team you had (and have) there...u make the SEC better no doubt.

GatorNation
04-23-2005, 06:48 PM
The SEC is runnin away with the number of quality players drafted.....it isn't even worth keepin count anymore. But not too long ago, right after a certain quarterback got picked from a certain team that went unbeaten last year a thought crossed my mind and it needs to be recognized.

FOUR PLAYERS were chosen FROM THE SAME TEAM in the first two rounds of the 2005 NFL draft and they never were allowed to play for the national championship. No one beat them, they met every challenge, accomplished every goal....Auburn was @$%@#$% incredible last year and it will never stop bothering me that they weren't given a shot against So(low)Cal for the NC. Jason Campbell, Carnell "Cadillac" Williams, Carlos Rogers, Ronnie Brown, the list goes on...that's a team they'll be talking about 20 years from now...it's sad they never got the due they deserve but at least the 2005 NFL draft shows the talent Auburn had this past year.

Grats to you guys....awesome team you had (and have) there...u make the SEC better no doubt.


Yeah...Auburn was really impressive...last year AND in the draft. I hope people see the media bias for what it is. Enough of USC and OU.

The SEC clearly proved it is the best.

WayzUp
04-23-2005, 07:36 PM
So when's Faison go? :rolleyes:

JerryBeeds
04-23-2005, 07:40 PM
I think Faison will be a late 3rd or 4th round pick.

OmahaBound
04-23-2005, 07:44 PM
I know the Giants like him, so he might go to them in the 3rd if he's still available.

JerryBeeds
04-23-2005, 07:47 PM
I would love to see Faison go to the NY Giants.

OmahaBound
04-23-2005, 08:05 PM
Yeah, i'd probably prefer they get jerome mathis if he's still available. Having another blazing receiver would be awesome. But if he's gone or decide to go for an RB, Fiason would be a really nice addition.

uscrebel
04-23-2005, 08:53 PM
Yeah...Auburn was really impressive...last year AND in the draft. I hope people see the media bias for what it is. Enough of USC and OU.

The SEC clearly proved it is the best.

Would that be the same media bias that kept USC out of the NC in 2004?

Or would it be the media that falsely reported in 2002 that USC beat Auburn 24-17.

I am sure that you must mean the lying, liberal media that faked an entire game on the Plains in 2003 and falsely reported a score of 23-0.

We know this last one must have been the result of media bias, because the crappy USC team was lead by a Red-Shirt Freshman quarterback starting his first college game. Since the team he was playing against was essentially the same team that went 13-0 the following year, it only stands to reason that those lying Yankee media set it up.

Remind me again how the media is responsible for this.

jneesy
04-23-2005, 09:03 PM
carolina just got evan mathis from bama i dont know how many this is total but its fair to say were #1

WayzUp
04-23-2005, 09:15 PM
Would that be the same media bias that kept USC out of the NC in 2004?

Or would it be the media that falsely reported in 2002 that USC beat Auburn 24-17.

I am sure that you must mean the lying, liberal media that faked an entire game on the Plains in 2003 and falsely reported a score of 23-0.

We know this last one must have been the result of media bias, because the crappy USC team was lead by a Red-Shirt Freshman quarterback starting his first college game. Since the team he was playing against was essentially the same team that went 13-0 the following year, it only stands to reason that those lying Yankee media set it up.

Remind me again how the media is responsible for this.
SoCal plays in the Pac 10.....i am as unbiased as they come dood (ask anyone here) and I'm here to tell ya, USC v. Auburn would've been a very very close game. I'm not going to say Auburn would've definitely won but they wouldn't have rolled over liek OU did for you.

I don't think SoCal could have made it through Auburn's schedule undefeated...I just don't see it happening.. :cool:

cocky4ever
04-23-2005, 09:26 PM
Im not saying that Auburn would've beaten So Cal., but it would've been a much better game than OU gave them. Yeah So Cal. got left out of the NC Game the year before, but Auburn went undefeated in the same conference that the NC team from the year before, LSU, is in. Plus you cant even compare the Auburn team that So Cal. beat in 2003 to the Auburn team of 2004. Like I said Im not saying that Auburn would've beaten So Cal. in the NC game. Maybe they would've, maybe they wouldn't have. I certainly think they would've given So Cal. a better game than OU did though. Plus I gotta agree with Wayzup on another point. I dont think So Cal. would've went through Auburns schedule from last year undefeated.

uscrebel
04-23-2005, 09:55 PM
Look guys, the deal is that if you take the top six or seven teams year in and year out, any of them making it through a season undefeated is a remarkable achievement.

I was at the USC/CAL game and CAL mopped up the field with us...they just couldn't execute in the final few minutes.

Look at the two AUB/TEN games...one a blow out, one relatively close. The year we beat AUB 24-0, it would have been a much different game at the end of the season.

These are still kids playing Div I ball. That's why teams that appear to be juggernauts (like OU) make it to a big game and fold...LSU and USC wanted those games more than the Sooners. I would bet on the end of the Universe before I would bet on College Football.

AND THAT'S WHY I FREAKIN' LOVE IT!!!

So, let's play nice. It's not about the media. It's about eleven 18 to 22 year-olds, in peak condition, playing for their state or school or (in some cases) their favorite booster.

College football is still about marching bands at halftime...not wardrobe malfunctions.

College football is still about rings, not bonuses.

College football is still the only major sport in which everybody can lay claim to the championships, because everybody knows the BCS makes about as much sense as Donald Duck on acid.

Listen guys, if SC or UCLA are not in town, I will go to E. B. Miller Stadium to watch the Pomona College Sagehens play the Whittier Poets.

cocky4ever
04-23-2005, 09:59 PM
Look guys, the deal is that if you take the top six or seven teams year in and year out, any of them making it through a season undefeated is a remarkable achievement.

I was at the USC/CAL game and CAL mopped up the field with us...they just couldn't execute in the final few minutes.

Look at the two AUB/TEN games...one a blow out, one relatively close. The year we beat AUB 24-0, it would have been a much different game at the end of the season.

These are still kids playing Div I ball. That's why teams that appear to be juggernauts (like OU) make it to a big game and fold...LSU and USC wanted those games more than the Sooners. I would bet on the end of the Universe before I would bet on College Football.

AND THAT'S WHY I FREAKIN' LOVE IT!!!

So, let's play nice. It's not about the media. It's about eleven 18 to 22 year-olds, in peak condition, playing for their state or school or (in some cases) their favorite booster.

College football is still about marching bands at halftime...not wardrobe malfunctions.

College football is still about rings, not bonuses.

College football is still the only major sport in which everybody can lay claim to the championships, because everybody knows the BCS makes about as much sense as Donald Duck on acid.

Listen guys, if SC or UCLA are not in town, I will go to E. B. Miller Stadium to watch the Pomona College Sagehens play the Whittier Poets.
Great post.

Neo
04-24-2005, 08:34 AM
Let's look at it this way,

PAC-10 = Store brand beefaroni / Dr. Thunder
SEC = Chef Boyardee beefaroni / Dr. Pepper


:cool:


There is no way in hell that Southern Cal would have gone undefeated with AU's schedule. Let's see how good those Trojans are without the backbone of their offense. (Norm Chow) :cool:

Neo
04-24-2005, 09:45 AM
Would that be the same media bias that kept USC out of the NC in 2004?

Or would it be the media that falsely reported in 2002 that USC beat Auburn 24-17.

I am sure that you must mean the lying, liberal media that faked an entire game on the Plains in 2003 and falsely reported a score of 23-0.

We know this last one must have been the result of media bias, because the crappy USC team was lead by a Red-Shirt Freshman quarterback starting his first college game. Since the team he was playing against was essentially the same team that went 13-0 the following year, it only stands to reason that those lying Yankee media set it up.

Remind me again how the media is responsible for this.

The fact that Southern Cal was in the 2005 NC game was at best, a pity vote. As for the rest of your argument, I am referring you to the picture posted below.

http://www.wrrx.com/thumbs/DarthMaul/bsmeter.jpg (http://www.wrrx.com/images/DarthMaul/bsmeter.gif)

ColonelKurtz
04-24-2005, 10:17 AM
The fact that Southern Cal was in the 2005 NC game was at best, a pity vote. As for the rest of your argument, I am referring you to the picture posted below.

http://www.wrrx.com/thumbs/DarthMaul/bsmeter.jpg (http://www.wrrx.com/images/DarthMaul/bsmeter.gif)

I'd honestly have to agree with uscrebel here Neo, for entering the season, the condoms were undefeated and in my view, deserved to remain #1. Nobody managed to beat them in '04 so defending their title was in my mind only right, fair, and proper.

Where many of us find fault is with the promotion of the nawth texicans as #2 from July on. The media hype of the sooners continued despite the evidence that the B12 was nothing more than the Big2, them and Texico. Us SEC fans are firing in the rear view mirror on this one, because there is no fixing the BCS as it currently stands.

You can no more deny the University of Spoiled Children their consecutive MNC's anymore than you can the last team to pull it off, Nebraska in '94 & '95. What I will be watching for is to see if the offseason tumult will upset the delicate chemistry so important to such an impressive accomplishment as this, remember that NU "stumbled" to two losses in '96 but "rebounded" to win it again in '97. If So.Cal can equal that or better it, we will all have had the priviledge of witnessing some great College Footall history.

Neo
04-24-2005, 10:28 AM
I'd honestly have to agree with uscrebel here Neo, for entering the season, the condoms were undefeated and in my view, deserved to remain #1. Nobody managed to beat them in '04 so defending their title was in my mind only right, fair, and proper.

No one beat them, but there were quite a few teams that came very damn close. An unranked Stanford, UCLA and Oregon State come to mind fairly quickly.

No one can deny that even with a Div. IAA team on their schedule, Auburn had the toughest schedule.

Using your logic Colonel, what gave them the right to take the limelight from LSU? Why weren't the Tigers the undisputed NC's? The PAC-10 can't hold a candle to the SEC. That much is fact. When Southern Cal starts playing ranked teams and plays a schedule like the SEC does, then maybe I'll give them their props. Until then, they're a bunch of overrated flower-power hippies that had their lunch money stolen, by the "UK's" and "Vandy's" of the PAC-10.

Waitaminute...that got me thinking. Stanford, UCLA and OS aren't the "UK's" and "Vandy's" of the PAC-10. That's their elite teams. :rolleyes: :cool:

uscrebel
04-24-2005, 10:31 AM
The fact that Southern Cal was in the 2005 NC game was at best, a pity vote. As for the rest of your argument, I am referring you to the picture posted below.

http://www.wrrx.com/thumbs/DarthMaul/bsmeter.jpg (http://www.wrrx.com/images/DarthMaul/bsmeter.gif)

Ha ha ha ha.....Your argument is such a compelling, intellectual retort...ha ha ha ha.... that I have decided to contact you in future anytime I wish to know the truth about anything.... ha ha ha ha.

Oh yeah, about the Ace Freehly avatar...nevermind, it speaks for itself.

Neo
04-24-2005, 10:36 AM
Ha ha ha ha.....Your argument is such a compelling, intellectual retort...ha ha ha ha.... that I have decided to contact you in future anytime I wish to know the truth about anything.... ha ha ha ha.

Oh yeah, about the Ace Freehly avatar...nevermind, it speaks for itself.


It's spelled Frehley.

Before questioning someone else's intelligence, you should question your own.

As for intellectual responses, it has been shown that trying to talk to you is like trying to call a retarded man out for travelling in basketball. There's no point. :cool:

jneesy
04-24-2005, 10:40 AM
back to the original heading ofthis thread travis daniels of lsu just went to miami

uscrebel
04-24-2005, 10:46 AM
It's spelled Frehley.

Before questioning someone else's intelligence, you should question your own.

As for intellectual responses, it has been shown that trying to talk to you is like trying to call a retarded man out for travelling in basketball. There's no point. :cool:

Oh my gosh, you mean that I didn't know how to spell the name of the fabulous what-ever-his-washed-up-name-is? Now I am REALLY embarassed. Especially, because it happened on a sports chat board!

Neo...you are so funny. I hope my sons grow up to be just like you...I mean the clever part.

Sorry, gotta cut this short. I need to get out to Tower and see if they have the boxed set of Kiss live...I clearly have a lot to learn.

jneesy
04-24-2005, 10:53 AM
fason from florida went to minnesota

cocky4ever
04-24-2005, 11:04 AM
fason from florida went to minnesota
Looks like the Vikings are making some good picks this year.

JBryant12
04-24-2005, 11:07 AM
yeah its makin me mad cuz they are getting better through the draft and my Packers are lookin more toward the future when this year could be Favre's last hurrah....BTW how many SEC players have been drafted so far???

autiger1126
04-24-2005, 11:09 AM
a bunch, around 25

GatorNation
04-24-2005, 11:18 AM
Yeah, i'd probably prefer they get jerome mathis if he's still available. Having another blazing receiver would be awesome. But if he's gone or decide to go for an RB, Fiason would be a really nice addition.

All-SEC back, but he needed to stay another year....coming out early hurt him. But apparently he needed immediate financial help for his family.

I still think he should have gone higher than idiot Clarett.

nooneLT
04-24-2005, 11:22 AM
didn't clarett run a 4.8 on his 40? freakin evan mathis, OG, ran a 4.9...why is he even getting drafted?

JBryant12
04-24-2005, 11:26 AM
Cuz Denver produces so many good RBs so i guess they thought he had some potentila but in the 3rd round???? thats crazy.....

uscrebel
04-24-2005, 11:34 AM
All-SEC back, but he needed to stay another year....coming out early hurt him. But apparently he needed immediate financial help for his family.

I still think he should have gone higher than idiot Clarett.

I have a friend who is a sports agent. He said that he thought Clarett would go high, not because of his ability, but because he would be relatively cheap. Apparently, because of his "citizenship" issues, he will have to have a lot of his money built in to the contract as incentives. The kid will really have to put up or shut up.

autiger1126
04-24-2005, 11:42 AM
Fred Gibson gonna team up with Hines Ward for Pittsburgh

WayzUp
04-24-2005, 01:24 PM
Fred Gibson gonna team up with Hines Ward for Pittsburgh
:D I don't think they'll miss Plaxico even a little bit....Fred will do just fine and probably without the attitude. :D

jneesy
04-24-2005, 02:11 PM
yep pittsburg is just gonna get stronger


which pleases me greatly

JBryant12
04-24-2005, 02:15 PM
Bama fan that likes the steelers....thats different but hey i cant talk im from VA and i love the Packers....

ColonelKurtz
04-24-2005, 09:41 PM
No one beat them, but there were quite a few teams that came very damn close. An unranked Stanford, UCLA and Oregon State come to mind fairly quickly.

No one can deny that even with a Div. IAA team on their schedule, Auburn had the toughest schedule.

Using your logic Colonel, what gave them the right to take the limelight from LSU? Why weren't the Tigers the undisputed NC's? The PAC-10 can't hold a candle to the SEC. That much is fact. When Southern Cal starts playing ranked teams and plays a schedule like the SEC does, then maybe I'll give them their props. Until then, they're a bunch of overrated flower-power hippies that had their lunch money stolen, by the "UK's" and "Vandy's" of the PAC-10.

Waitaminute...that got me thinking. Stanford, UCLA and OS aren't the "UK's" and "Vandy's" of the PAC-10. That's their elite teams. :rolleyes: :cool:

Hold on there, I didn't diss L$U by leaving them out, they weren't in the topic. Fact is, L$U MIGHT have rated higher in the preseason, but with their grad losses, not I or very few if any voted them as a preseason #1. That they were pummelled by UGA midseason ended any notion they may have harbored.

I got to see USC play several times last season and they weren't looking so hot in a couple of matchups, but the fact is, they kept on winning and then put it all together for that one bigtime showing vs. OU. We see teams peak too early as UGA did last year and we see others doing so at different junctures as well, but the Spoiled Children saved their best for last and it was truely impressive.

Though I've chided the B12 here, the Pac10 hasn't been a strong top to bottom conference in my estimation either, but the computers sure love 'em.

ColonelKurtz
04-24-2005, 09:44 PM
:D I don't think they'll miss Plaxico even a little bit....Fred will do just fine and probably without the attitude. :D

Fred gotta get jiggy with his physicality...i.e. he's got to block if he is to survive in the Not For Long....

jneesy
04-24-2005, 09:59 PM
Bama fan that likes the steelers....thats different but hey i cant talk im from VA and i love the Packers....

grew up in maryland and i have family in western pennsylvania loved the steelers from the iron curtain days terry, franco, mean joe, and the boys
also been a lifelong penguins and pirates fan where are you from in virginia?

GeauxTo
04-24-2005, 10:22 PM
Note:
The team Southern Cal DIDN'T play for the NC had two running backs and a QB taken in the top 5 or so of the NFL draft.

The team that Southern Cal DID play for the NC had LATE, if any, NFL draft pics.

Go figure...
;)