are you guys

[bleedsgarnet]

glad that cutcliffe got canned, or do you think it was a lynching?

[Neo]

glad that cutcliffe got canned, or do you think it was a lynching?


A lynching in my book..... :cool:


In Honor Of You....."Cutcliffed"

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/ole/sports/m-footbl/99-00roster/s-cutcliff9900.jpg

Name: David Nelson Cutcliffe
Born: September 16, 1954 in Birmingham, Ala.
Wife: The former Karen Oran of Harriman, Tenn.
Married: June 23, 1984
Children: Chris (2/6/87), Katie (4/12/89), Emily (8/8/2000)
Hobbies: Family & Fishing

Position: Head Coach; 1998-2004
Record At Ole Miss: 44-29-0
Career Record: 44-29-0

[bleedsgarnet]

i read the statement that the chancellor made after the decision..he said that it was time to compete with the tennessees georgia and floridas...what? Ole Miss is a mid level program in the sec..it will always be...Some say, look at two yrs ago, we won 10 games...as far as i know, there isnt another manning in the pipeline..I can understand wanting to win more than 4 games, but that is rediculous. He had a great record at ole miss...Dumb statement, dumb decision, and dumb administration

[rebeldude]

i read the statement that the chancellor made after the decision..he said that it was time to compete with the tennessees georgia and floridas...what? Ole Miss is a mid level program in the sec..it will always be...Some say, look at two yrs ago, we won 10 games...as far as i know, there isnt another manning in the pipeline..I can understand wanting to win more than 4 games, but that is rediculous. He had a great record at ole miss...Dumb statement, dumb decision, and dumb administration

You just hit the nail on the head!!! Manning, thats right, Manning was responsible for OM 's success not Cut. The admin, along with all OM fans know that, What happened the first season Manning left. 4 wins. Same coach. You guys need get over Cut. It was Manning that was the factor not Cut, wake up!!! Question is who had the great record Cut or Manning? I know the answer I was there every Saturday.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

You just hit the nail on the head!!! Manning, thats right, Manning was responsible for OM 's success not Cut. The admin, along with all OM fans know that, What happened the first season Manning left. 4 wins. Same coach. You guys need get over Cut. It was Manning that was the factor not Cut, wake up!!! Question is who had the great record Cut or Manning? I know the answer I was there every Saturday.
And who was the coach responsible for getting Manning to Ole Miss? ;)

[Neo]

And who was the coach responsible for getting Manning to Ole Miss? ;)

Uh oh! :cool:

[rebeldude]

And who was the coach responsible for getting Manning to Ole Miss? ;)

What does that have to do his coaching ability? Actually the correct answer is not a coach, It was Peyton that persuaded Eli to go to Ole Miss and Cut. Manning went to OM and carried Cut and that is fact!!

[autiger1126]

I thought it was his dad, since he went there, and he didn't want to follow in Peyton's footsteps.

[Neo]

What does that have to do his coaching ability? Actually the correct answer is not a coach, It was Peyton that persuaded Eli to go to Ole Miss and Cut. Manning went to OM and carried Cut and that is fact!!

Okay...lets say you're right...then Cutcliffe's record pre/post Manning is;


13-11-0

(1998: 1-0)
(1999: 8-4)
(2004: 4-7)

That's still not bad 2-year stint per say. Your argument is about as watertight as the Titanic in my eyes. :cool:

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

What does that have to do his coaching ability? Actually the correct answer is not a coach, It was Peyton that persuaded Eli to go to Ole Miss and Cut. Manning went to OM and carried Cut and that is fact!!
It has a lot to do with his coaching ability. Coaching is not only how well you do on the field, but also recruiting, etc. If you can't bring in good/decent recruits, I don't care how good you are at coaching on the field, you're going to lose more often than not. With Eli's talent, I have a hard time believing that Eli would have gone to Ole Miss if he didn't believe in the coach.

[rebeldude]

It has a lot to do with his coaching ability. Coaching is not only how well you do on the field, but also recruiting, etc. If you can't bring in good/decent recruits, I don't care how good you are at coaching on the field, you're going to lose more often than not. With Eli's talent, I have a hard time believing that Eli would have gone to Ole Miss if he didn't believe in the coach.

OK. I agree with you about recruiting, but not all head coach's are recruiters and Cut was one of those.I knew your next post would go there.When Manning left, the very following season OM won 4 games. And you said,If you can't bring in good recruits, I don't care how good you are at coachng on the field, you're going to lose more often than not. Well that is what OM did. 4-7 after Eli and with Cuts great recruits.
Where were Cuts great recruits? I end my case. Could not recruit and was not a head coach.How many games did you see Cut coach? lol. Conservative and No talent= 4-7.
Peyton had the utmost respect and believed in Cut as an offensive co-ordinator,Remember Fulmer was head coach, and The Manning's had strong Ties to OM and still do. Eli was influenced by big brother but Cut was not the only reason Eli went to OM. Did Manning sign with the giants because he believed in TC? Nope.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

OK. I agree with you about recruiting, but not all head coach's are recruiters and Cut was one of those.I knew your next post would go there.When Manning left, the very following season OM won 4 games. And you said,If you can't bring in good recruits, I don't care how good you are at coachng on the field, you're going to lose more often than not. Well that is what OM did. 4-7 after Eli and with Cuts great recruits.
Where were Cuts great recruits? I end my case. Could not recruit and was not a head coach.How many games did you see Cut coach? lol. Conservative and No talent= 4-7.
Peyton had the utmost respect and believed in Cut as an offensive co-ordinator,Remember Fulmer was head coach, and The Manning's had strong Ties to OM and still do. Eli was influenced by big brother but Cut was not the only reason Eli went to OM. Did Manning sign with the giants because he believed in TC? Nope.
Cuts had to recruit someone to catch the ball. Doesn't matter how good Manning was, he had to have someone who could catch it and run with it when Manning threw the ball.

And, although I didn't see any LIVE games that Cutcliff coached, I did see quite a few on TV duirng the Manning years, and I felt that he was a good coach and got shafted. Obviously you disagree, and that's fine.

I believe that in about three years, your signature will be stating "When will the O Era end????We want Cuts back!"

[OrangeCrush]

A new AD was hired while Coach Cut was head coach. It has been put out there that the new AD did not mesh with Coach C. There is also talk that higher ups in Ole Miss wanted Coach C to shake up his staff. He refused and this was the final straw. Only time will tell if Ole Miss made the right decision. Coach C has landed on his feet as an assistant to Charlie Weiss at Notre Dame.

[rebeldude]

Okay...lets say you're right...then Cutcliffe's record pre/post Manning is;


13-11-0

(1998: 1-0)
(1999: 8-4)
(2004: 4-7)

That's still not bad 2-year stint per say. Your argument is about as watertight as the Titanic in my eyes. :cool:

I'm not arguing, I'm discussing, there's a difference, Lets look at this. (some yrs you forgot)

1. get rid of 98. that was Tommy T's team.
2. 2000 7-5, still with Tommy T's recruits.
3. 2001 7-4, some of T's and C's recruits.
4. 2002 7-6, ain't gettin no better/Matter of fact its getting worse.
5. 2003 10-3 Eli's senior yr.
6. 2004 4-7 All C's recruits and no Eli.
NO improvement over 5yr period, with the exception of 1 yr. (Thanks Eli). If you don't improve, you change.
That's an average Stint per say. Ole Miss is like any other SEC school, they don't want to be average, they want to compete. I was time for change.What do you think about my discussion now?

[rebeldude]

Cuts had to recruit someone to catch the ball. Doesn't matter how good Manning was, he had to have someone who could catch it and run with it when Manning threw the ball.

And, although I didn't see any LIVE games that Cutcliff coached, I did see quite a few on TV duirng the Manning years, and I felt that he was a good coach and got shafted. Obviously you disagree, and that's fine.

I believe that in about three years, your signature will be stating "When will the O Era end????We want Cuts back!"

What good or decent reciever would have turnd down Ole Miss knowing Eli Manning was going to be QB? Besides that they only had decent recievers, non were great. Chris Collins, their best, didn't even get drafted.I don't agree that Cut got the shaft, He simply did not perform. There was no improvement over the 5 yr. period.He was average.

Don't get me wrong Cut was a good man, Just not a good head coach or maybe not right for the job. No want Cut back, not now anyways.

[Neo]

I'm not arguing, I'm discussing, there's a difference, Lets look at this. (some yrs you forgot)

1. get rid of 98. that was Tommy T's team.
2. 2000 7-5, still with Tommy T's recruits.
3. 2001 7-4, some of T's and C's recruits.
4. 2002 7-6, ain't gettin no better/Matter of fact its getting worse.
5. 2003 10-3 Eli's senior yr.
6. 2004 4-7 All C's recruits and no Eli.
NO improvement over 5yr period, with the exception of 1 yr. (Thanks Eli). If you don't improve, you change.
That's an average Stint per say. Ole Miss is like any other SEC school, they don't want to be average, they want to compete. I was time for change.What do you think about my discussion now?


For starters...

#1: WRONG! Coach Cutcliffe coached Ole Miss to an Independence Bowl victory over Texas Tech. So his 1-0 record in 98 stands.

#2: Agree...

#3: Agree to a point.

#4: Downward spirial? Don't think so...A lot of new players in key positions.

#5: Told ya. 10-2 is not bad at all.

#6: You have to expect a dropoff when you lose a player of Manning's caliber. It's just idiotic to think otherwise. No team wants to be a "middle of the road" team, but sometimes it's out of your control. I will always believe that Mr. Cutcliffe got "Cutcliffe'd" and I will always dispise Ole Miss for the way he was treated. The administration at Ole Miss is so full of s*&%. They say they wanted a proven winner when they fired Cutcliffe, and then they hire someone that doesn't have ANY head coaching experience.

What a crock..... :cool:

[rebeldude]

For starters...

#1: WRONG! Coach Cutcliffe coached Ole Miss to an Independence Bowl victory over Texas Tech. So his 1-0 record in 98 stands.

#2: Agree...

#3: Agree to a point.

#4: Downward spirial? Don't think so...A lot of new players in key positions.

#5: Told ya. 10-2 is not bad at all.

#6: You have to expect a dropoff when you lose a player of Manning's caliber. It's just idiotic to think otherwise. No team wants to be a "middle of the road" team, but sometimes it's out of your control. I will always believe that Mr. Cutcliffe got "Cutcliffe'd" and I will always dispise Ole Miss for the way he was treated. The administration at Ole Miss is so full of s*&%. They say they wanted a proven winner when they fired Cutcliffe, and then they hire someone that doesn't have ANY head coaching experience.

What a crock..... :cool:


Back and forth, back and forth, man you just don't agree with anything do ya?
Oh I'm sorry #2
#1 Cut wasn't there long enough to coach that game, didn't even know what
Qb's name was.
#2 Allright!!!
#3 Almost Allright, but what I said is simply the truth, No debate here.
#4 Regardless of personel, it was cuts worst year to date. Downward spiral,
Yes it was.
#5 That is 10-3 not 10-2, again Thanks Eli.
#6 You are absolutely correct! We expected a dropoff, but not from 10-3 to
4-7 With the loss of one major player, Where were all the great recruits
Cut Had? Don't judge "O" yet, like you said he has no experience.He will be tested soon.
You don't really despise Ole Miss do ya? It's not on you profile last time I looked, but I did change mine, check it out LOL.

[Hardie]

Well at the beginnin I said I didnt agree with the decision to let Cut go but what is done is done. I can see where Ole Miss is comin from tho. They are tired of being in the middle and they wanna strive to get up to the level of the elite of the SEC. There is nothing wrong in that, and they did what they thought was best to get to the next level. I think coach O is going to do a great job at Mississippi and in my opinion in a few years no one is even going to remember ole Cut cuz of the good job coach O will be doing.

[Neo]

I think coach O is going to do a great job at Mississippi



Maybe you should drink a little.... :cool:

[uscballer101]

No maybe he should stop drinking if he thinks that Neo...

[Neo]

No maybe he should stop drinking if he thinks that Neo...

Good point...I'm just tired and not really thinking all that clearly. :cool:

[Hardie]

LOL either way I aint drinking the koolaid yall did. Yall have got to be crazy if yall dont think Coach O isnt goin to do a good job at Ole Miss.

[cocky4ever]

LOL either way I aint drinking the koolaid yall did. Yall have got to be crazy if yall dont think Coach O isnt goin to do a good job at Ole Miss.
I dont know if he is or not but I just dont see how you can be so sure.

[rebeldude]

I dont know if he is or not but I just dont see how you can be so sure.

Confidence, Just as SC is so confident about Spurrier,

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Confidence, Just as SC is so confident about Spurrier,
You're comparing Spurrier to Coach O? Hitting the bottle a little early this morning, are we? ;)

[cocky4ever]

You're comparing Spurrier to Coach O? Hitting the bottle a little early this morning, are we? ;)
LOL. Thats what Im saying. Theres a slight difference between someone who has won a championship at Duke and someone who has never been a head coach of a college team.

[rebeldude]

You're comparing Spurrier to Coach O? Hitting the bottle a little early this morning, are we? ;)

That wasn't a comparison of the two coaches. I was comparing the confidence in the fans, Go back and read.

[rebeldude]

You're comparing Spurrier to Coach O? Hitting the bottle a little early this morning, are we? ;)

Ya know they both have National championship rings.

[rebeldude]

LOL either way I aint drinking the koolaid yall did. Yall have got to be crazy if yall dont think Coach O isnt goin to do a good job at Ole Miss.

Whatever it is that you are drinking I wish you would share, It sure enables you to think clearly. :)

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Ya know they both have National championship rings.

One was a head coach, the other wasn't (BIG difference).....

Steve Spurrier AS COLLEGE HEAD COACH, compiled a 142-40-2 record in 15 seasons as a college football coach, including a 122-27-1 record and one national championship while at Florida.
Florida
2001 10-2 3 Lost SEC title game; won Orange Bowl 56-23
2000 10-3 11 Won SEC (8-1); lost Sugar Bowl 37-20
1999 9-4 14 Lost SEC title game; lost Citrus Bowl 37-34
1998 10-2 5 2nd in SEC East (7-1); won Orange Bowl 31-10
1997 10-2 4 Tied for 2nd in SEC East (6-2); won Citrus Bowl 21-6
1996 12-1 1 Won SEC (9-0); won Sugar Bowl 52-20 for national title
1995 12-1 2 Won SEC (9-0); lost Fiesta Bowl 62-24 for national title
1994 10-2-1 7 Won SEC (8-1); lost Sugar Bowl 23-17
1993 11-2 5 Won SEC (8-1); won Sugar Bowl 41-7
1992 9-4 10 2nd in SEC (6-3); won Gator Bowl 27-10
1991 10-2 7 Won SEC (7-0); lost Sugar Bowl 39-28
1990 9-2 13 Won SEC (6-1)
Duke
1989 8-4 -- Won ACC (6-1); lost All-American Bowl
1988 7-3-1 -- Went 3-3-1 in ACC (6th place)
1987 5-6 -- Went 2-5 in ACC (7th place)

Coach O: 0-0 record (I guess you could say he's undefeated?) :)

[cocky4ever]

Plus it's pretty obvious that Orgeron wasnt the guy that Ole Miss had their sites set on when they let Cutcliffe go. There were plenty of people who turned down the job there after seeing what happened. I think the Athletics Department should've handled the situation a little better instead of having to hurry up and pick someone because so much time had passed. It could turn out to be a good thing but Orgeron isnt really proven as a head coach and wasnt the guy that Ole Miss originally wanted. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things turn out.

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Plus it's pretty obvious that Orgeron wasnt the guy that Ole Miss had their sites set on when they let Cutcliffe go. There were plenty of people who turned down the job there after seeing what happened. I think the Athletics Department should've handled the situation a little better instead of having to hurry up and pick someone because so much time had passed. It could turn out to be a good thing but Orgeron isnt really proven as a head coach and wasnt the guy that Ole Miss originally wanted. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things turn out.

I agree that only time will tell, and there's no guarantee that Spurrier (or Orgeron) will succeed with theie respective schools. But, based on track record, there's no reason to think that Spurrier will fail at SC. However, there are a whole lot more unknowns in the equation where Orgeron is concerned.

[Neo]

Plus it's pretty obvious that Orgeron wasnt the guy that Ole Miss had their sites set on when they let Cutcliffe go. There were plenty of people who turned down the job there after seeing what happened. I think the Athletics Department should've handled the situation a little better instead of having to hurry up and pick someone because so much time had passed. It could turn out to be a good thing but Orgeron isnt really proven as a head coach and wasnt the guy that Ole Miss originally wanted. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things turn out.



((Standing ovation))

Very good Cocky and you're correct. Orgeron was not their first choice. He was settled on because everyone else they talked to declined the job. I wonder why??? :rolleyes:


In Honor Of You....."Cutcliffed"

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/ole/sports/m-footbl/99-00roster/s-cutcliff9900.jpg

Name: David Nelson Cutcliffe
Born: September 16, 1954 in Birmingham, Ala.
Wife: The former Karen Oran of Harriman, Tenn.
Married: June 23, 1984
Children: Chris (2/6/87), Katie (4/12/89), Emily (8/8/2000)
Hobbies: Family & Fishing

Position: Head Coach; 1998-2004
Record At Ole Miss: 44-29-0
Career Record: 44-29-0

[rebeldude]

One was a head coach, the other wasn't (BIG difference).....

Steve Spurrier AS COLLEGE HEAD COACH, compiled a 142-40-2 record in 15 seasons as a college football coach, including a 122-27-1 record and one national championship while at Florida.
Florida
2001 10-2 3 Lost SEC title game; won Orange Bowl 56-23
2000 10-3 11 Won SEC (8-1); lost Sugar Bowl 37-20
1999 9-4 14 Lost SEC title game; lost Citrus Bowl 37-34
1998 10-2 5 2nd in SEC East (7-1); won Orange Bowl 31-10
1997 10-2 4 Tied for 2nd in SEC East (6-2); won Citrus Bowl 21-6
1996 12-1 1 Won SEC (9-0); won Sugar Bowl 52-20 for national title
1995 12-1 2 Won SEC (9-0); lost Fiesta Bowl 62-24 for national title
1994 10-2-1 7 Won SEC (8-1); lost Sugar Bowl 23-17
1993 11-2 5 Won SEC (8-1); won Sugar Bowl 41-7
1992 9-4 10 2nd in SEC (6-3); won Gator Bowl 27-10
1991 10-2 7 Won SEC (7-0); lost Sugar Bowl 39-28
1990 9-2 13 Won SEC (6-1)
Duke
1989 8-4 -- Won ACC (6-1); lost All-American Bowl
1988 7-3-1 -- Went 3-3-1 in ACC (6th place)
1987 5-6 -- Went 2-5 in ACC (7th place)

Coach O: 0-0 record (I guess you could say he's undefeated?) :)

Great thinking, never looked at it like that, you must be drinking the same stuff Hardie is, Coach "O"-Undefeated in NCAA Football, think I'll add that to my signature.

[rebeldude]

((Standing ovation))

Very good Cocky and you're correct. Orgeron was not their first choice. He was settled on because everyone else they talked to declined the job. I wonder why??? :rolleyes:

It was the pay Neo, the pay. OM is a little country school. :p

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Great thinking, never looked at it like that, you must be drinking the same stuff Hardie is, Coach "O"-Undefeated in NCAA Football, think I'll add that to my signature.
Go for it.....Then you can change it after the 1st game. ;)

[Hardie]

Just cuz someone isnt the first choice doesnt mean they arent going to go in there and do a great job. No one was even comparing SS with coach O, all rebel was sayin was that they have the confidense that their coach will do good just as the SC fans have the confidense that SS wil do good. Theres no question that right now SS is the better coach , but whos to say that coach O couldnt one day turn out to be one of the greatest ever ? Everyone had to start somewhere yanno , SS didnt just pop out of the womb and turn into a great coach , he had to get a start too and there was the same unknowns for him when he started as are with any coach. I think all this hate towards Ole Miss is cuz they beat yall last year. Yes before you say anything I know SC beat Alabama last year , but the thing is... it dont bother us and I think thats what bothers yall lol. Dont be hatin on Ole Miss fans for believing in coach O cuz yall are doing the same thing with SS.

[rebeldude]

Go for it.....Then you can change it after the 1st game. ;)

Won't take but a second :)

[rebeldude]

Just cuz someone isnt the first choice doesnt mean they arent going to go in there and do a great job. No one was even comparing SS with coach O, all rebel was sayin was that they have the confidense that their coach will do good just as the SC fans have the confidense that SS wil do good. Theres no question that right now SS is the better coach , but whos to say that coach O couldnt one day turn out to be one of the greatest ever ? Everyone had to start somewhere yanno , SS didnt just pop out of the womb and turn into a great coach , he had to get a start too and there was the same unknowns for him when he started as are with any coach. I think all this hate towards Ole Miss is cuz they beat yall last year. Yes before you say anything I know SC beat Alabama last year , but the thing is... it dont bother us and I think thats what bothers yall lol. Dont be hatin on Ole Miss fans for believing in coach O cuz yall are doing the same thing with SS.

Man ya gotta tell me what that stuff is your drinkin. Somewhere in this thread these USC guys missed something (reading 101). I was just playing along with em. Thanks for settin it straight

[GAMECOCK_FAN]

Won't take but a second :)

I like the signature rebeldude. Glad we've all got a sense of humor. Got to do something to get us through until football season starts.

[Hardie]

LOL Rebel its a truth drink called water. It enables me to read corrrectly and figure out the real meaning of the post instead of the fire water (alcohol) everyone else is drinkin and seein what they wanna see lol

[rebeldude]

I like the signature rebeldude. Glad we've all got a sense of humor. Got to do something to get us through until football season starts.

Thanks, look how long I will get to keep the signature, or It could change if you keep drinking That Hardie stuff. That stuff generates Ideas.

[rebeldude]

LOL Rebel its a truth drink called water. It enables me to read corrrectly and figure out the real meaning of the post instead of the fire water (alcohol) everyone else is drinkin and seein what they wanna see lol

Thats funny! I'm like you I say away from the fire water.

[Hardie]

lol firewater is the work of the devil , thats how you end up with some of them women in ya bed that you wouldnt even take a second look at without alcohol lol

[Neo]

LOL Rebel its a truth drink called water. It enables me to read corrrectly and figure out the real meaning of the post instead of the fire water (alcohol) everyone else is drinkin and seein what they wanna see lol


I would get my water tested for Benzine and Chromium if I were you. You seem to be forgetting what you said about Shula. As for Auburn, they went 13-0 last season and I think we can draw our own conclusions. :cool:


I think Alabama is going to come out and surprise everyone just like Auburn did this year.

[rebeldude]

lol firewater is the work of the devil , thats how you end up with some of them women in ya bed that you wouldnt even take a second look at without alcohol lol

I remember those days(20yrs ago).

[cocky4ever]

It was the pay Neo, the pay. OM is a little country school. :p
It may have something to do with the pay, but then again maybe they didnt wanna be the co-SEC coach of the year one year and get fired the next. I know I wouldnt take a job with that kind of stability.

[Neo]

It may have something to do with the pay, but then again maybe they didnt wanna be the co-SEC coach of the year one year and get fired the next. I know I wouldnt take a job with that kind of stability.


You and the rest of the world.....

I know I wouldn't. :cool:

[rebeldude]

It may have something to do with the pay, but then again maybe they didnt wanna be the co-SEC coach of the year one year and get fired the next. I know I wouldnt take a job with that kind of stability.

Heck I would work 1 yr for that salary.

[Hardie]

LOL Id coach friggin Southwest Alabama Tech State University for one year for the kinda money them crackers make lol

[Hardie]

Alabama is going to be the surprise team cuz of the players returning , I am not puttin all the hype on coach Shula. He is doing a great job and has kept the program running clean and has done a great job of recruiting in my opinion. I think we have the talent ( tho we dont have the depth) to make alot of noise and be the 2005 version of Auburn.

[Neo]

I think we have the talent ( tho we dont have the depth) to make alot of noise and be the 2005 version of Auburn.


And you call USC fans dellusional??? :cool:

What a crock!


Hot Dog with a Pepsi and chips = 8.00
Tickets to an Alabama football game = 35.00
Getting smeared 20-3 in your own house on ESPN and still find a way to talk trash afterwards..... :cool:

This is Alabama football......


PRICELESS!!

[cocky4ever]

Alabama is going to be the surprise team cuz of the players returning , I am not puttin all the hype on coach Shula. He is doing a great job and has kept the program running clean and has done a great job of recruiting in my opinion. I think we have the talent ( tho we dont have the depth) to make alot of noise and be the 2005 version of Auburn.
I'm actually starting to think that Auburn could win the West again next year. I wouldnt be surprised if there was a rematch in the SECCG between Auburn/UT. They have a great coach and seem to do better when no one expects much out of them. Between Auburn and LSU I dont see Bama winning the West.

[Hardie]

Garnet colored glasses are a great thing arent they Del lol. When Ole Miss whoops up on ya precious Gamecocks again , then you are going to see who the dellusional one is. AS for Auburn repeating , I dont see it happening considerin how much they lost from last seasons team. I didnt see them doing it last year either but that goes to show anything can happen in the SEC.

[JBryant12]

Auburn has a better chance than Bama though.....and ole miss beatin USC stands as much chance as the 49ers winnin te super bowl next season...(sorry Neo had to do it to ya) :)

[Neo]

Auburn has a better chance than Bama though.....and ole miss beatin USC stands as much chance as the 49ers winnin te super bowl next season...(sorry Neo had to do it to ya) :)

It's ok....I love the niners, but they just flat out suck..... :(

[JBryant12]

at least ya have loyalty....

[Cap'n]

He got canned get over it people. He's not comin back.

[Neo]

He got canned get over it people. He's not comin back.


That doesn't make it right. :cool:

[Cap'n]

He didn't do his job and he got fired so what's wrong with that?! Since when is it illegal to fire a coach?

[Neo]

He didn't do his job and he got fired so what's wrong with that?! Since when is it illegal to fire a coach?


When he's the reigning SEC coach of the year and has a 44-29-0 record in the SEC. :cool:

[Neo]

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:


In Honor Of You....."Cutcliffed"

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/ole/sports/m-footbl/99-00roster/s-cutcliff9900.jpg

Name: David Nelson Cutcliffe
Born: September 16, 1954 in Birmingham, Ala.
Wife: The former Karen Oran of Harriman, Tenn.
Married: June 23, 1984
Children: Chris (2/6/87), Katie (4/12/89), Emily (8/8/2000)
Hobbies: Family & Fishing

Position: Head Coach; 1998-2004
Record At Ole Miss: 44-29-0
Career Record: 44-29-0

[cocky4ever]

When he's the reigning SEC coach of the year and has a 44-29-0 record in the SEC. :cool:
Say what you will but Neo has a damn good point there.

[rebeldude]

Say what you will but Neo has a damn good point there.


Good point, but not when all the facts are presented, Remember, Cut took over a program that included recruits by Tommy T. and them he was able to get Eli Manning, When Eli left and Cut was working with all his own players, Well how does 4-7 sound.

[bleedsgarnet]

Ok, i have read all the posts..i started this whole deal, so here is my take..44-29 at ole miss is exceptional. Coach O was not the first or second choice. Rebeldude blamed it on money..he said it was because "we are a country sec school" was why the others did not take the job. How can you expect a program to compete with the Tennessees, floridas, and Auburns of the sec if you cant pay a coach. The administrators at ole miss must be graduates of the same "country sec school" they operate to expect to fire a coach with a very good record, for someone they did not really want in the first damn place. I am not saying coach O does not have potential, or will not do well..the whole idea behind the original post was to get an opinion on if it was a good idea. I am sure you fans will be behind him. you dont really have a choice, do you. Universties live and die by decisions like this..I hope it works out, because to the general public, your administors look assinine :cool:

[Neo]

Say what you will but Neo has a damn good point there.


Thank you very much Cocky...... :cool:

[cocky4ever]

Thank you very much Cocky...... :cool:
No problem, I see what you're saying. I know this is a "What have you done lately" business but the Cutcliffe situation seems a little extreme.

[rebeldude]

Ok, i have read all the posts..i started this whole deal, so here is my take..44-29 at ole miss is exceptional. Coach O was not the first or second choice. Rebeldude blamed it on money..he said it was because "we are a country sec school" was why the others did not take the job. How can you expect a program to compete with the Tennessees, floridas, and Auburns of the sec if you cant pay a coach. The administrators at ole miss must be graduates of the same "country sec school" they operate to expect to fire a coach with a very good record, for someone they did not really want in the first damn place. I am not saying coach O does not have potential, or will not do well..the whole idea behind the original post was to get an opinion on if it was a good idea. I am sure you fans will be behind him. you dont really have a choice, do you. Universties live and die by decisions like this..I hope it works out, because to the general public, your administors look assinine :cool:


Money is a big factor in getting an A-1 coach,and you are right, how does a school (any school) compete when they don't have the money? There were other issues that prove Cut was not going continue the good fortune at Ole Miss, and I have posted these reasons throught this thread, I followed Cut his entire career at OM. I didn't become familiar with this issue the minute he was fired. Didn't have to read about it in Newspapers, sports magazines RIVALS.COM or hear about it on ESPN. Already had an idea what was going to happen as early as the begining of last season. One of the other issues, I have not mentioned is that Cut refused to honor a request made by the Admin. Hate to say this but everyone has a boss, yes even Cut. When you refuse to do what the boss asks, well normally you get fired especially when your performance is on a downhill ride, as Cuts was.Not a single one of us on this board know all the details of Cuts firing and probabley never will. I challenge anyone that reads this post, to say they know all the details. LOL. Cut was a good man and I wish him all the luck in the world, but I will now pull for the Rebels and their new leadership headed up by Coach Orgeron. You are right about the Admin, they are a little nutty and two very controversial issues prove this. Rod Barnes just renewed his contract and the removal of our beloved mascot, Colonel Reb. Hopefully Coach "O" and his new staff will be successful at OM. We will soon see.

[Neo]

One of the other issues, I have not mentioned is that Cut refused to honor a request made by the Admin. Hate to say this but everyone has a boss, yes even Cut. When you refuse to do what the boss asks, well normally you get fired


According to Cutcliffe's contract, he didn't have to honor the admin's request. In his contract, he had total control over the hirings/firings within his staff. :cool:

[cocky4ever]

Money is a big factor in getting an A-1 coach,and you are right, how does a school (any school) compete when they don't have the money? There were other issues that prove Cut was not going continue the good fortune at Ole Miss, and I have posted these reasons throught this thread, I followed Cut his entire career at OM. I didn't become familiar with this issue the minute he was fired. Didn't have to read about it in Newspapers, sports magazines RIVALS.COM or hear about it on ESPN. Already had an idea what was going to happen as early as the begining of last season. One of the other issues, I have not mentioned is that Cut refused to honor a request made by the Admin. Hate to say this but everyone has a boss, yes even Cut. When you refuse to do what the boss asks, well normally you get fired especially when your performance is on a downhill ride, as Cuts was.Not a single one of us on this board know all the details of Cuts firing and probabley never will. I challenge anyone that reads this post, to say they know all the details. LOL. Cut was a good man and I wish him all the luck in the world, but I will now pull for the Rebels and their new leadership headed up by Coach Orgeron. You are right about the Admin, they are a little nutty and two very controversial issues prove this. Rod Barnes just renewed his contract and the removal of our beloved mascot, Colonel Reb. Hopefully Coach "O" and his new staff will be successful at OM. We will soon see.
You are right that very few people know all the details. I guess Cut thought that since he had such a good record he could act on his own a little bit and have a little bit more control over the team and coaching staff since he was the most successful coach Ole Miss had seen in a long time. The AD and President probably didnt like that and quickly put him in his place. I think it was a stupid move on their part and that seemed to be the case when it took them so long to get another coach to come there. As much as Cut got screwed I think the real people who got the raw end of the deal are the fans. I have nothing but respect for someone who pulls for their team through the good,bad, and ugly, which seems to be the case with you. Its sad that because of a power struggle with the people at the top the fans lost a great coach. I guess the great coach part could be debated but anyway...Im sure you're about tired of hearing how stupid it was for them to fire him but that will probably be the case at least until next season and even after that if Orgeron doesnt do good. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it was a good decision to let him go or not.

[rebeldude]

According to Cutcliffe's contract, he didn't have to honor the admin's request. In his contract, he had total control over the hirings/firings within his staff. :cool:

You know as well as I do that contracts are made to be broken, today a contract is worth about as much as the paper it is written on, contracts are bought out and breached everyday, like I said everybody has a boss and we all know who Cuts boss' were. This isn't smart alec reply, just the truth.

[Cap'n]

Well if he was so good then why isn't he a head coach somewhere else?!

[Neo]

Well if he was so good then why isn't he a head coach somewhere else?!


I'm not even gonna diginify that comment with a response. :cool:

[Cap'n]

I rest my case then, ha ha.

[Spurrierismyhomeboy]

Ole Miss is so overrated, just because you have two Mannings you think you deserve the SEC every year! You must realize that your not Oklahoma or USC your Ole Miss a mid-level SEC school! I will bet in 5 years Miss. St will have a better football program than Ole Miss!

[JerryBeeds]

Ole Miss is so overrated, just because you have two Mannings you think you deserve the SEC every year! You must realize that your not Oklahoma or USC your Ole Miss a mid-level SEC school! I will bet in 5 years Miss. St will have a better football program than Ole Miss!
Croom's got that program headed in the right direct.

[autiger1126]

I give it two.

[bbqit]

Rebeldude and Cap'n, the entire sc group writing on this thread knew about everything you have written long ago. Unless you just enjoy their mosquito like attacks, don't pay any attention to them. They are just putting down Universities like Ole Miss to build their own ego. Coach Cut is old news, Coach O is new news, Spurrier is both.