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bleedsgarnet
03-09-2005, 02:15 PM
I never realized how egotistical and high and mighty they seem to be..If i hear that "i am just a plowhand" quote one more time...if you go on their site, you would swear that they are gonna win the national championship. Hey guys...you are thin, thin, thin...if you guys have even two injuries you are dead meat...When you jokers come into williams-brice and get schooled, like last year, i dont want to hear the excuses. I know you will have them..you will blame everything from the turf to the weather..not once did someone post that you got your asses handed to you by the cocks last yr..be ready boys...one thing that you guys never discuss is this..usc has beaten you twice out of four tries..that has to hurt..ouch..haha..later bozos.. :cool:

BigSpur
03-09-2005, 02:21 PM
I never realized how egotistical and high and mighty they seem to be..If i hear that "i am just a plowhand" quote one more time...if you go on their site, you would swear that they are gonna win the national championship. Hey guys...you are thin, thin, thin...if you guys have even two injuries you are dead meat...When you jokers come into williams-brice and get schooled, like ast year, i dont want to hear the excuses. I know you will have them..you will blame everything from the turf to the weather..not once did someone post that you got your asses handed to you by the cocks last yr..be ready boys...one thing that you guys never discuss is this..usc has beaten you twice out of four tries..that has to hurt..ouch..haha..later bozos.. :cool:

LoL, they are in love with themselves, But I wouldn't talk to much smack yet I'm still worried about that game.

bleedsgarnet
03-09-2005, 02:27 PM
your a veteran..i am a rookie..i want the pot shots..screw em

Neo
03-09-2005, 02:29 PM
I'm still worried about that game.


I'm not...Bleed is right about Bama just not having the depth. In 99% of our positions, we are 3-4 deep with good blue-chip talent. Our recruiting classes shows that. We'll be fine. :cool:


USC 28
Alabama 14

BigSpur
03-09-2005, 02:37 PM
I'm not...Bleed is right about Bama just not having the depth. In 99% of our positions, we are 3-4 deep with good blue-chip talent. Our recruiting classes shows that. We'll be fine. :cool:


USC 28
Alabama 14

Quiet you fools, I'm trying to make them think they have a chance.

Neo
03-09-2005, 02:38 PM
Quiet you fools, I'm trying to make them think they have a chance.


((Laughing)) :D

rebeldude
03-09-2005, 04:12 PM
I'm not...Bleed is right about Bama just not having the depth. In 99% of our positions, we are 3-4 deep with good blue-chip talent. Our recruiting classes shows that. We'll be fine. :cool:


USC 28
Alabama 14

You better hope Croyle is injured.

cocky4ever
03-09-2005, 04:54 PM
You better hope Croyle is injured.
If he isnt going into the game he may be coming out. Without an experienced O-Line I think we'll see a lot of pressure being put on him. Not to mention he will be passing against one of the best secondary's in the SEC. They better be coming to play with more than just Croyle as their saviour.

Neo
03-09-2005, 04:57 PM
You better hope Croyle is injured.

The Infamous Alabama War Cry.....

"Croyle was hurt." :cool:

jneesy
03-09-2005, 05:01 PM
you go boy

did THEY make you believe

oh y'all might acually get the honor of being stomped by bama saturday in roundball

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:01 PM
As thin as Bama is at the moment, the Tide still has more talent than carolina, in or out of jail. Bama returns the #2 ranked defense in the SEC, the best rb in the league, an abundance of talent at the wideout position, and a qb with more talent than the gamecocks have had at the position in many moons. You guys won last year, no doubt about that. This year it will take more than converting turnovers into 28 yard td drives. As for the Bama fans on the various boards, we can talk about tradition because we have some! George Rodgers is on medicare and Tannyhill has short hair now, so enjoy your 6-5, 5-6 season and save up for new locks for anything valuable in and around Williams- Bryce. RTR

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:03 PM
As thin as Bama is at the moment, the Tide still has more talent than carolina, in or out of jail. Bama returns the #2 ranked defense in the SEC, the best rb in the league, an abundance of talent at the wideout position, and a qb with more talent than the gamecocks have had at the position in many moons. You guys won last year, no doubt about that. This year it will take more than converting turnovers into 28 yard td drives. As for the Bama fans on the various boards, we can talk about tradition because we have some! George Rodgers is on medicare and Tannyhill has short hair now, so enjoy your 6-5, 5-6 season and save up for new locks for anything valuable in and around Williams- Bryce. RTR



Like I said....An Alabama fan preaching eithics....

PRICELESS! :cool:

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 05:05 PM
You better hope Croyle is injured.

I agree man. I think these Cocks are a little too cocky for their own good. But who cares? I don't care who wins that game, and honestly I hope it's USC so it's a SEC loss for Bama. But my hogs won't be in contention anyway so Roll Tide.

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:05 PM
and a qb with more talent than the gamecocks have had at the position in many moons.

I wouldn't say that....As a starter in 2000 & 2001, Phil Petty had a record of 17-7-0.

He was also 1-0 against BAMA! HA! :cool:


Hell, Syvelle Newton kicked your butts last year. Face it. You got your butts kicked by a Wide Receiver playing QB. :cool:

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:13 PM
As thin as Bama is at the moment, the Tide still has more talent than carolina, in or out of jail.



Recruiting Classes:

2005
Alabama: 18th
USC: 23rd
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=880


2004
Alabama: 15th
USC: 35th
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2004&Page=1&Type=0&Sort=0


2003
Alabama: 49th
USC: 8th
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2003&Page=1&Type=0&Sort=0


2002
Alabama: 30th
USC: 11th
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2002&Page=1&Type=0&Sort=0


Yeah...big talent gap Supergenius...Try again... :cool:

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:19 PM
you go boy

did THEY make you believe

oh y'all might acually get the honor of being stomped by bama saturday in roundball

Well...at least you all have something....

We have defeated Bama in every other sport lately. :cool:

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:22 PM
We all know that how recruiting classes are measured at the time of the signing, silly me. It would be absurd to evaluate them 2-3 years down the road. How many of those "studs" that granny Clampett signed are still on the team or ever made all-sec? Chaingang squads do not count. RTR

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:28 PM
Saturday will be just another day at the office for the Tide B-ball team. The cocks and odom may be in for a even worse beating than the one they got in T-Town a couple of weeks back. Oh well, I hear the NIT is fun.

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:29 PM
We all know that how recruiting classes are measured at the time of the signing, silly me. It would be absurd to evaluate them 2-3 years down the road. How many of those "studs" that granny Clampett signed are still on the team or ever made all-sec? Chaingang squads do not count. RTR

Well...let's look at that. Since 2000;

Record
Alabama: 30-31-0
USC: 33-26-0

Bowls
Alabama: 2 Bowls, 1 win
USC: 2 Bowls, 2 wins

Head to Head
USC leads 2-1



Does that answer your question? Before you "rib" someone, make sure the stats are in your favor. :cool:

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:31 PM
And you guys did that with no loss of schollys, you should be proud!

jneesy
03-09-2005, 05:32 PM
go back 10 years

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:33 PM
go back 10 years

Another Infamous Alabama Battle Cry: :cool:

"Look at what we have done in the past." "It doesn't matter what we have done lately."

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:34 PM
And you guys did that with no loss of schollys, you should be proud!


That was your own fault. Quit CHEATING and it won't happen. :cool:

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:36 PM
What has carolina done lately, yesterday, 5 years ago,10, 15? 2 Outback wins every 20 years is nice but not nearly enough to be so arrorgant about RTR

fernandomike
03-09-2005, 05:41 PM
Its getting lively on here again.

GeauxTo
03-09-2005, 05:42 PM
And you guys did that with no loss of schollys, you should be proud!
Oops! Isn't this sort of...
woulda
coulda
shoulda
??????
;)

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:43 PM
What has carolina done lately

Well....we went 6-5 and CRUSHED Bama at Tuscaloosa! :cool:

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:47 PM
You should buy a dictionary.

supergenius
03-09-2005, 05:48 PM
How was your bowl trip/ arraignment?

Neo
03-09-2005, 05:50 PM
How was your bowl trip/ arraignment?

Better than yours. I said it once, I'll say it again...

Alabama - A habitual cheater within the NCAA.




An Alabama fan preaching ethics.....

PRICELESS! :cool:

jneesy
03-09-2005, 06:21 PM
i'll do it for you

bama
95 8-3
96 10-3
97 4-7
98 7-5
99 10-3 sec champs
00 3-8
01 7-5
02 10-3
03 4-9
04 6-6

3-3 in bowls
1-1 in sec championship


usc
95 4-6-1
96 6-5
97 5-6
98 1-10 how did you manage that?
99 0-11 EVEN BETTER
00 8-4
01 7-5
02 5-7
03 5-7
04 6-5
3-0 in bowls

total

bama 69-52
usc 49-64

your lately is 5 years
my lately is 10 tears

history is history

AND Y'ALL SUCK

jneesy
03-09-2005, 08:02 PM
usc isnt pure as the wind driven snow

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:11 PM
usc isnt pure as the wind driven snow

Like I said....Stick to history because that's all Bama has going for it. :cool:

20-3! :cool:

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:20 PM
history is history

AND Y'ALL SUCK


Well, if that's the case, then since 1993, we are 3-1 against the great Alabama.

If we suck, then what does that say about Alabama considering in the last 11 years, we have defeated yall 3 out of 4 games????? :cool:


An Alabama fan preaching ethics.....


PRICELESS!

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:23 PM
i'll do it for you

usc
95 4-6-1
96 6-5
97 5-6
98 1-10 how did you manage that?
99 0-11 EVEN BETTER
00 8-4
01 7-5
02 5-7
03 5-7
04 6-5
3-0 in bowls

total

usc 49-64


history is history

AND Y'ALL SUCK

Where did you get your stats?....In 2001, USC went 9-3-0 with a win over Ohio State in the Outback Bowl. Ya know, the Outback Bowl is a New Years Day bowl. Something that Bama hasn't seen in a few years. :cool:

jneesy
03-09-2005, 08:28 PM
9-4 over entire history

went to the usc website and could only find records back til 2000 why is that

because anytime before that y'all sucked dirt and rest assured we will make you suck dirt again we did alright against king steve when he had talent playing for him so beating him this year shouldn't be too difficult

Jordan
03-09-2005, 08:29 PM
There are VERY FEW schools in the NCAA (especially the SEC) that haven't had some coaches/administrators playing dirty in their past. You notice that the people who played a part in this are not around anymore, and the school IS working toward rebuilding their reputation.

All of this is over and done with now, and should be put behind everybody by now.... I would be shocked to see anything like this happen with Shula around, unlike my thoughts with some of the past coaches. He actually seems to have some respect for himself, his athletes, and the program! Our program committed the crimes and paid the price for it.... now it's time to put all that behind us and focus on the game again.

Also, isn't it a little early still to be making predictions on next years scores? Heck, I thought preseason ranking were bad! :)

And what's the deal with this "our recruits vs your recruits" over the past several years? While having a good recruiting class is important, it doesn't always mean the difference between a win and a loss. There have been plenty of top-recruits who have practially washed out in college with nobody even remembering their name. Our defense last year showed that recruit rankings don't necessarily mean everything. If that were the case, our opponents would have had a lot easier time on offense this past year. :)

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:30 PM
9-4 over entire history

went to the usc website and could only find records back til 2000 why is that

because anytime before that y'all sucked dirt and rest assured we will make you suck dirt again we did alright against king steve when he had talent playing for him so beating him this year shouldn't be too difficult

Another Infamous Alabama Battle Cry:

"We did alright against King Steve."

That was also when you were CHEATING.


Suck dirt? I think you are talking about the wrong team here. Who has owned who's butt in the last 10 years?????? :cool:

Jordan
03-09-2005, 08:34 PM
Another Infamous Alabama Battle Cry:

"We did alright against King Steve."

That was also when you were CHEATING.


Suck dirt? I think you are talking about the wrong team here. Who has owned who's butt in the last 10 years?????? :cool:
Oh please.... this is just getting laughable now. While I'll admit we did cheat, which is obviously wrong... you can't blame a couple of recruiting infractions for us winning a game. I seriously doubt those few players (especially since I believe one of them wasn't even signed in the end) made THAT big of a difference to contribute a win to their recruitment.

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:34 PM
There are VERY FEW schools in the NCAA (especially the SEC) that haven't had some coaches/administrators playing dirty in their past. You notice that the people who played a part in this are not around anymore, and the school IS working toward rebuilding their reputation.

All of this is over and done with now, and should be put behind everybody by now.... I would be shocked to see anything like this happen with Shula around, unlike my thoughts with some of the past coaches. He actually seems to have some respect for himself, his athletes, and the program! Our program committed the crimes and paid the price for it.... now it's time to put all that behind us and focus on the game again.

Also, isn't it a little early still to be making predictions on next years scores? Heck, I thought preseason ranking were bad! :)

And what's the deal with this "our recruits vs your recruits" over the past several years? While having a good recruiting class is important, it doesn't always mean the difference between a win and a loss. There have been plenty of top-recruits who have practially washed out in college with nobody even remembering their name. Our defense last year showed that recruit rankings don't necessarily mean everything. If that were the case, our opponents would have had a lot easier time on offense this past year. :)


I agree with you 150% about Shula Jordan. He runs a tight/clean ship and you don't have to worry about the NCAA sniffing around while he's there. The problem is too many Alabama fans believe that after one year, they are going back to the "Bear" days and it's not happening. At least not right now.

After USC whipped Bama, all we heard from MOST Bama fans is excuses. Some of them are worse than Kentucky fans. At least Kentucky fans admit that they suck. Some Bama fans are in denial and won't admit that it's going to take more than one (1) year to rebuild that program and now the SEC is more competitive than it's ever been. :cool:

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:36 PM
Oh please.... this is just getting laughable now. While I'll admit we did cheat, which is obviously wrong... you can't blame a couple of recruiting infractions for us winning a game. I seriously doubt those few players (especially since I believe one of them wasn't even signed in the end) made THAT big of a difference to contribute a win to their recruitment.

One season, you had to forfeit I believe 11 games because he played in those games. Are you trying to tell me that the person in question didn't have anything to do with those wins? :cool:

jneesy
03-09-2005, 08:42 PM
it was 1994 and florida beat us that year

and i was wrong we are terrible we have 4 major infractions against us and usc only has 3 so i guess you guys ARE pure as the wind driven snow

https://goomer.ncaa.org/dev60cgi/rwcgi60?p_mostinf


currently were behind

auburn
georgia
kentucky
miss st

and tied with florida

but thats only half the sec

we just got CAUGHT

Jordan
03-09-2005, 08:42 PM
I agree with you 150% about Shula Jordan. He runs a tight/clean ship and you don't have to worry about the NCAA sniffing around while he's there. The problem is too many Alabama fans believe that after one year, they are going back to the "Bear" days and it's not happening. At least not right now.

After USC whipped Bama, all we heard from MOST Bama fans is excuses. Some of them are worse than Kentucky fans. At least Kentucky fans admit that they suck. Some Bama fans are in denial and won't admit that it's going to take more than one (1) year to rebuild that program and now the SEC is more competitive than it's ever been. :cool:

But see, that's the problem.... Kentucky has always sucked, with the exception of the random good year every decade or so. That's what UK fans grew up with, so they're used to it.

Look at the timeframe of Bama's "glory years" and what do you see? I see that most of the people who grew up with that are now around 50 years old, with their kids being of college age and likely attending UofA in their family's footsteps. These are the majority of Bama fans, and they grew up during the glory years of Bama always being good.... and their now-college-age kids grew up living/breathing the glory that their parents experienced. This means that the expectations of both 40-50 y/o fans, as well as most of the student population, are extremely high. I think this contributes a lot to why Bama fans as a whole are always expecting the best season to be just around the corner again.

cocky4ever
03-09-2005, 08:44 PM
So let me get this straight, you can consider all the things Bama has done good on he field in their history but not at any of the things they've done bad off of it. When they talk about their tradition the rule breaking always comes up. So then they want to talk about the present and how they've moved past that. Then you talk about how they arent doing much lately and they jump back to the past. Hmmm, ever think that if Bama had played by the rules all those years their history wouldnt be as great as it is now. If you wanna bring up the good then you gotta consider that maybe that was a result of some other things that werent so good. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

Neo
03-09-2005, 08:46 PM
it was 1994 and florida beat us that year

and i was wrong we are terrible we have 4 major infractions against us and usc only has 3 so i guess you guys ARE pure as the wind driven snow

https://goomer.ncaa.org/dev60cgi/rwcgi60?p_mostinf


Did you even bother to look at the sports that were charged with that?????

Our last football violation was in 1967! That's a whole 38 years! Only one (1) of those three (3) violations were from the football team.

All of Bama's major infractions were for their football team alone! :cool:

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 08:52 PM
Since 1990, USC is 2-3 vs. Alabama. This is giving Bama their 17-6 victory that was foreited in 1993. So nobody's really owned anybody here.

Since ya'll like the past, here's some history for ya.

USC versus SEC teams:

Alabama 3-9
Arkansas 5-8
Auburn 1-4-1
Florida 3-19-3
Georgia 13-42-2
Kentucky 9-6-1
LSU 2-14-1
Ole Miss 5-8
Miss. St. 5-6
Tennessee 2-19-2
Vanderbilt 12-2

Lead Series against: Vanderbilt and Kentucky

Oh, and 35-63-4 against Clemson.

Jordan
03-09-2005, 08:52 PM
So let me get this straight, you can consider all the things Bama has done good on he field in their history but not at any of the things they've done bad off of it. When they talk about their tradition the rule breaking always comes up. So then they want to talk about the present and how they've moved past that. Then you talk about how they arent doing much lately and they jump back to the past. Hmmm, ever think that if Bama had played by the rules all those years their history wouldnt be as great as it is now. If you wanna bring up the good then you gotta consider that maybe that was a result of some other things that werent so good. You cant have your cake and eat it too.
But you could say the same for just about any team out there! Looking back at the past years, you can't say what would have happened. Plus, I bet there are PLENTY of recruiting/coaching/etc violations with just about every team in the NCAA over the years of college football that went undiscovered (or at least untouched). Just because one team was caught doesn't mean there weren't others doing the same thing during other years. We'll just never know....

And if you look at most of my posts, I don't go from past to present to past to present depending on the topic. I wish more than anything that all Bama fans would just put the past behind them for the most part. I'm not saying get rid of the traditions/memories/etc, but just not use it for competitive argument in the present time.

jneesy
03-09-2005, 08:53 PM
wrong yet again

feb 1 2002 football
feb 9 1999 basketball
aug 2 1995 football
jan 5 1964 football

cheater is a cheater

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 08:54 PM
My Hogs aren't much better though. We only lead against Ole Miss, Miss. St., South Carolina and Vandy. We're tied with Kentucky 2-2 :(. We are close with Bama and Auburn though. But LSU, UT, Fla, and UGA have owned our ass, but I'm not ashamed of that. Those are all great programs.

Djshockley3
03-09-2005, 08:56 PM
Since 1990, USC is 2-3 vs. Alabama. This is giving Bama their 17-6 victory that was foreited in 1993. So nobody's really owned anybody here.

Since ya'll like the past, here's some history for ya.

USC versus SEC teams:





Georgia 13-42-2







.

Yeah you see that record vs UGA.

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 09:00 PM
Yeah you see that record vs UGA.

Haha Shockley :D , I thought that might bring out a little smack talk. UGA's owned their fare share of teams, including the Pigs (3-7) or (7-3) for you. :confused:

Neo
03-09-2005, 09:03 PM
wrong yet again

feb 1 2002 football
feb 9 1999 basketball
aug 2 1995 football
jan 5 1964 football

cheater is a cheater

Oh...excuse me... :cool: 3 out of 4 were made by the football team. Big difference. :cool:

Neo
03-09-2005, 09:07 PM
Since 1990, USC is 2-3 vs. Alabama. This is giving Bama their 17-6 victory that was foreited in 1993. So nobody's really owned anybody here.

Since 1992, USC is 3-2 against Alabama. Forfeit or not, a win is a win. You cannot take away a NCAA mandated forfeit due to CHEATING.

I was going to post Arkansas' record against the SEC, but it looks like you have already summed it up. Face it, both Arky and USC are in the same boat. We are the new kids on the block. :cool:

Djshockley3
03-09-2005, 09:08 PM
Haha Shockley :D , I thought that might bring out a little smack talk. UGA's owned their fare share of teams, including the Pigs (3-7) or (7-3) for you. :confused:

USC is right up there with vandy and UK with us,lol.

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 09:12 PM
Since 1992, USC is 3-2 against Alabama. Forfeit or not, a win is a win. You cannot take away a NCAA mandated forfeit due to CHEATING.

I was going to post Arkansas' record against the SEC, but it looks like you have already summed it up. Face it, both Arky and USC are in the same boat. We are the new kids on the block. :cool:

Our boat's a little bigger and faster though. We're 7-8 against Bama and all we need to do is play Kentucky one more time and we'll have that series. So we'd have the series against 5/11 teams, and if we can get bama two more, which i know we won't this year, it'd be 6/11, but 5 is ok. Plus, if you go down the line, we weren't just dominated by most of these teams. I think Tennessee (2-12) and Florida (1-5) were really the only teams that just completely owned us. You guys were completely owned by quite a few teams. But yeah, our boats are right next to each other. Arkansas' boat is just a little bigger and a little faster. Plus, we've got 2 SEC west championships in football since we've joined the conference and last year was the first time in 7 years we haven't been to a bowl. We're a basketball school anyway ;)

Oh, and I knew you'd come back with our stuff cuz I know that's how you are, so you should thank me for saving you the work. :D

Neo
03-09-2005, 09:27 PM
Our boat's a little bigger and faster though.

Not that much faster.... :cool:

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 09:52 PM
Not that much faster.... :cool:

Very true, not that much faster at all. Maybe a couple of mph, but that's it. We've got a few extra seats on our boat b/c of the SEC West crowns though. Remember we're the red-headed step children of the conference. :D This is football though. B-ball's a different story.

We pimped up in this confernce with a mofrickin (see no cuss) yacht. We had a bad wreck a few years ago and are still trying to rebuild it. :D

why am I talking about boats? I'm a jackass, sorry :D

jneesy
03-09-2005, 10:01 PM
the funny thing about it all(as i look back at the title to this thread) is

EVERYONE CANT WAIT TO PLAY BAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jay_Lupo
03-09-2005, 10:06 PM
the funny thing about it all(as i look back at the title to this thread) is

EVERYONE CANT WAIT TO PLAY BAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I ain't jneesy. Even if ya'll weren't going to be good, I still wouldn't b/c we've kind of got ya'll the last few times and we're due to loose to Bama.

Neo
03-09-2005, 11:16 PM
I ain't jneesy. Even if ya'll weren't going to be good, I still wouldn't b/c we've kind of got ya'll the last few times and we're due to loose to Bama.

We actually look forward to the Bama game. Is it a game we can lose? Doubtful but possible. Playing them is the only way to shut em up for at least a year. :cool:

Hardie
03-10-2005, 12:00 AM
How sad is this??? South Carolina fans workin themselves up for a big let down. Face it yall Yall dont ever do anything in football and beating an Alabama team on NCAA sactions is yalls claim to greatness,umm something is wrong with that.Im sorry to say but just cuz yall got Steve Spurrier dont instantly make yall a legit threat. Spurrier is a good coach but this is South Carolina football we are talkin about. Yall have a long way to go if yalls big thrill is beatin an Alabama team not at full strength. The reason that victory means so much to yall anyways is cuz of the type of school we are. It took all them "past" victories and championships to make that victory against us even in a down year mean something. Thats something yall should think about. I havent seen yall beat Georgia in awhile or even Tennessee. Yall need to prove yallself before yall even begin to critisize Alabama football cuz SC football really doesnt have anything to brag about.

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:07 AM
How sad is this??? South Carolina fans workin themselves up for a big let down. Face it yall Yall dont ever do anything in football and beating an Alabama team on NCAA sactions is yalls claim to greatness,umm something is wrong with that.Im sorry to say but just cuz yall got Steve Spurrier dont instantly make yall a legit threat. Spurrier is a good coach but this is South Carolina football we are talkin about. Yall have a long way to go if yalls big thrill is beatin an Alabama team not at full strength. The reason that victory means so much to yall anyways is cuz of the type of school we are. It took all them "past" victories and championships to make that victory against us even in a down year mean something. Thats something yall should think about. I havent seen yall beat Georgia in awhile or even Tennessee. Yall need to prove yallself before yall even begin to critisize Alabama football cuz SC football really doesnt have anything to brag about.

For starters, welcome to the "Talk Smack" room. :)


Secondly, here we go with excuses again. We were having a down year. See what I mean? Injuries occur on every single team and going by what you're saying there, the loss shouldn't count because it was a "down year or not at full strength"? A loss is a loss and Bama frankly, got decked. Why is it so hard for Tider's to admit when they get outplayed???? We had injuries to our players too. Excusing a loss due to injuries is a cop-out.

Why do we have to prove ourselves to be worthy of beating Bama by beating Georgia and Tennessee? :cool:

Hardie
03-10-2005, 12:20 AM
LOL yall beat us no doubt but its not an excuse to say we was dealin with NCAA sactions come on now. Im not sayin yall have to beat anyone else to be worthy of beatin us , Im just pointin out the fact yall are beatin 3rd stringers but i mean if beatin us makes yall that happy then by all means savior in it . Again you are avoidin the whole STEVE SPURRIER instantly makes us a champion threat deal. You down us Bama fans for sayin Croyle is goin to make a big diffrence but hes just one man.. well last time i checked SS was one man as well. Also you dont like the fact we keep referin to our history and tradition... well bud the fact is what we do in the past helps make us what we are today, thats true for football programs too. When SC actualy gets a football history then lets see if you feel the same way. Yalls biggest history moment to throw up is the omg we are bowl eligable after countless years. As bad as yall wana be in the Alabama , Tennessee, Georgia, LSU league yall arent and beatin an admittively bad Alabama team dont classify ya to think you are. Win some SEC championships or some National titles then you can say something.

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:35 AM
LOL yall beat us no doubt but its not an excuse to say we was dealin with NCAA sactions come on now. Im not sayin yall have to beat anyone else to be worthy of beatin us , Im just pointin out the fact yall are beatin 3rd stringers but i mean if beatin us makes yall that happy then by all means savior in it.


So Croyle, Darby, etc, etc were third stringers? How did you get the NCAA on your backs to begin with?



Again you are avoidin the whole STEVE SPURRIER instantly makes us a champion threat deal. You down us Bama fans for sayin Croyle is goin to make a big diffrence but hes just one man.. well last time i checked SS was one man as well.


I have NEVER said in ANY of my posts that Steve Spurrier was going to win this or that in 2005. I have said that I think Spurrier will win an SEC title within his tenure here at USC. More than likely, 2007 or 2008. Hell, we were leading the SEC East this past year until the Tennessee game. We really screwed the pooch on that one.



Also you dont like the fact we keep referin to our history and tradition... well bud the fact is what we do in the past helps make us what we are today, thats true for football programs too. When SC actualy gets a football history then lets see if you feel the same way. Yalls biggest history moment to throw up is the omg we are bowl eligable after countless years. As bad as yall wana be in the Alabama , Tennessee, Georgia, LSU league yall arent and beatin an admittively bad Alabama team dont classify ya to think you are. Win some SEC championships or some National titles then you can say something.


Nope..What we are saying is exactly what Cocky said earlier in the thread. When someone criticizes the UA program, you bring up your winning tradition. When people mention the scandals involved with UA during that tradition, you then mention how much you are above that now. When someone mentions the current state of the program, you revert back to your tradition. You can't have your cake and eat it to? You have to accept the bad with the good. With all of the scandals involved at the UA program, it could be safe to assume that you may not have had such success in the late 90's if you didn't break the rules.

We don't need to win SEC titles or MNC's to critique our conference brothers. As long as we beat them on the field, court, or whatever, that gives us every right.

GeauxTo
03-10-2005, 02:42 AM
So let me get this straight, you can consider all the things Bama has done good on he field in their history but not at any of the things they've done bad off of it. When they talk about their tradition the rule breaking always comes up. So then they want to talk about the present and how they've moved past that. Then you talk about how they arent doing much lately and they jump back to the past. Hmmm, ever think that if Bama had played by the rules all those years their history wouldnt be as great as it is now. If you wanna bring up the good then you gotta consider that maybe that was a result of some other things that werent so good. You cant have your cake and eat it too.
Wham! Bam! Thank you, Mam!
;)

Hardie
03-10-2005, 03:41 AM
LOL Alabama has paid for their crimes and we have suffered cuz of it , no doubt about that but to imply all the years of success we had we cheated through is just insane. Alabama ran a clean program up until the Albert Means distaster. The current state of the program is that we are on the road to recovery and are doing a very good job considering what has happend. We are no where near to where we should be tho but We did go to a bowl last year even with most of our 1st stringers and 2nd stringers out so we got the job done even without the dept. This year we are gettin our 1st and 2nd stringers back and yeah we going to be a lil t hin in certain spots but we will be able to get the job done again and continue to improve. You can down grade all ya want to but the thing is Alabama is still at the top of everyones to beat list year in and year out no matter what the state of the program is and that is due to the success of the past. If you beat Alabama then that means something that means for one year you have the edge on argueably the greatest football program in the country. So i can see where beatin us when we are down is a big deal but again its cuz of our past that it is. I do happen to know a lil bit about pickin winners tho yanno, incase you have forgotten I am the SEC and NFL pickems champion. I think Alabama is going to come out and surprise everyone just like Auburn did this year. Its ok if you believe it or not , just tell yaself whatever you need to and we will see it play out on the field, just be ready to admit when your wrong just as I'll eat my words if I am.

jneesy
03-10-2005, 07:19 AM
yep i feel these threads will see the light of day again in lets say....september

Chris
03-10-2005, 07:57 AM
Recruiting Classes:

2005
Alabama: 18th
USC: 23rd
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=880


2004
Alabama: 15th
USC: 35th
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2004&Page=1&Type=0&Sort=0


2003
Alabama: 49th
USC: 8th
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2003&Page=1&Type=0&Sort=0


2002
Alabama: 30th
USC: 11th
http://rivals100.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2002&Page=1&Type=0&Sort=0


Yeah...big talent gap Supergenius...Try again... :cool:

How many of these have panned out? How many are in jail now?

Chris
03-10-2005, 07:58 AM
Well...let's look at that. Since 2000;

Record
Alabama: 30-31-0
USC: 33-26-0

Bowls
Alabama: 2 Bowls, 1 win
USC: 2 Bowls, 2 wins

Head to Head
USC leads 2-1



Does that answer your question? Before you "rib" someone, make sure the stats are in your favor. :cool:
Neo? How many of those years were we BOWL INELIGIBLE for our "cheating"?

Neo
03-10-2005, 11:34 AM
Neo? How many of those years were we BOWL INELIGIBLE for our "cheating"?

I think yall were on probation for three (3) years. Is that correct? :cool:

Neo
03-10-2005, 11:36 AM
How many of these have panned out? How many are in jail now?

Right now we have three (3) players in jail. :(

Neo
03-10-2005, 11:42 AM
How many of these have panned out? How many are in jail now?

I pose that question to you... :cool:

RAULLS JR., EZZIE
4/03
Alabama running back Ezzie Raulls Jr., and three companions were charged Friday with invading a motel room and robbing nine people at gunpoint to raise money for a friend's jail bond, police said. Raulls, 19, and the three others were charged with armed robbery and armed burglary, a duty officer at the Bay County Jail said early Saturday. Larry White, a spokesman for the university's athletic department, told The News Herald of Panama City that if Raulls is convicted of a felony, he will be taken off the Crimson Tide's roster. The 5-foot-8, 210-pound Raulls did not play last season, but rushed for 1 yard on one carry during Alabama's spring game on March 29.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?...ov=ap&type=lgns



It happens at Bama too, the media just doesn't jump all over it like everyone else. Check out the Bama/Scout pages and see what they have to say.

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:00 PM
I do happen to know a lil bit about pickin winners tho yanno, incase you have forgotten I am the SEC and NFL pickems champion.

Now you have me really laughing. You are really basing your opinions on a contest??? :cool:

jneesy
03-10-2005, 12:07 PM
I pose that question to you... :cool:

RAULLS JR., EZZIE
4/03
Alabama running back Ezzie Raulls Jr., and three companions were charged Friday with invading a motel room and robbing nine people at gunpoint to raise money for a friend's jail bond, police said. Raulls, 19, and the three others were charged with armed robbery and armed burglary, a duty officer at the Bay County Jail said early Saturday. Larry White, a spokesman for the university's athletic department, told The News Herald of Panama City that if Raulls is convicted of a felony, he will be taken off the Crimson Tide's roster. The 5-foot-8, 210-pound Raulls did not play last season, but rushed for 1 yard on one carry during Alabama's spring game on March 29.
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?...ov=ap&type=lgns



It happens at Bama too, the media just doesn't jump all over it like everyone else. Check out the Bama/Scout pages and see what they have to say.

never heard of him that probably why the media didn't run with it

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:13 PM
never heard of him that probably why the media didn't run with it


See what I mean? Every school has their criminals. :cool:

BigSpur
03-10-2005, 12:24 PM
This is a sad thread, The mighty Tide fans are realizing that the days of Bama dominance are over and they must now bow to the lowly Gamecocks, soon to be the leaders of the pack in the SEC. But as the torch is passed in this the year of the rooster, the Tide fans will not go quietly into the night, but don't you worry we have ways of dealing with "hard cases". A trip to the Brice with a heavy dose of Cory Boyd and some stingy D ought to do the trick. Off with thier tusk!

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:30 PM
This is a sad thread, The mighty Tide fans are realizing that the days of Bama dominance are over and they must now bow to the lowly Gamecocks, soon to be the leaders of the pack in the SEC. But as the torch is passed in this the year of the rooster, the Tide fans will not go quietly into the night, but don't you worry we have ways of dealing with "hard cases". A trip to the Brice with a heavy dose of Cory Boyd and some stingy D ought to do the trick. Off with thier tusk!


Not saying a word...I'm letting my signature do all the talking. :cool:

jneesy
03-10-2005, 12:36 PM
This is a sad thread, The mighty Tide fans are realizing that the days of Bama dominance are over and they must now bow to the lowly Gamecocks, soon to be the leaders of the pack in the SEC. But as the torch is passed in this the year of the rooster, the Tide fans will not go quietly into the night, but don't you worry we have ways of dealing with "hard cases". A trip to the Brice with a heavy dose of Cory Boyd and some stingy D ought to do the trick. Off with thier tusk!

BWHHHAAAAAAAHHAAHHAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHAAA.......breathe ....
BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHHHAAAHHAAAAAA......just passed out

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:37 PM
BWHHHAAAAAAAHHAAHHAAAAHHHAAAAAHHHAAA.......breathe ....
BWAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHHHAAAHHAAAAAA......just passed out

OWNED! :cool:

jneesy
03-10-2005, 12:41 PM
OWNED! :cool:

whatever floats your boat

Tidetalk
03-10-2005, 12:43 PM
never heard of him that probably why the media didn't run with it

he was a non-scholarship walk-on. never saw the field in a game and never would have.

Tidetalk
03-10-2005, 12:49 PM
This is a sad thread, The mighty Tide fans are realizing that the days of Bama dominance are over and they must now bow to the lowly Gamecocks, soon to be the leaders of the pack in the SEC. But as the torch is passed in this the year of the rooster, the Tide fans will not go quietly into the night, but don't you worry we have ways of dealing with "hard cases". A trip to the Brice with a heavy dose of Cory Boyd and some stingy D ought to do the trick. Off with thier tusk!

Actually, it is sad that you USC fans are making comparisons between one of the best 5 year periods in USC history vs one of the worst 5 year periods in Alabama history. Surprise, you compare favorably.

We could compare UA to UK in basketball from '89-92 when they were on probation. We feasted and won 3 or 4 SEC championships, but mainly because they were out of the running. When they came back, they took their place on the SEC throne again. Enjoy your "dominance" (3-2) while it lasts.

Neo
03-10-2005, 12:50 PM
Enjoy your "dominance" (3-2) while it lasts.

It may last quite a while...... :cool:

Hardie
03-10-2005, 12:55 PM
Good point there Tide and yeah Imma base my knowledge against yours del. I may not be a sports writer but the contest speaks for itself. I know college football and me beating you proves I know just as much as you do. The day the Tide football programs bows to the SC program will be the day that SC gets that 13th national title or maybe that 24th SEC championship, since yall have neither one right now yall need to slow yalls roll and remember yalls place in the SEC...... below the Tennessees, Floridas , Georgias, Alabamas , LSU's , and Auburns. Gettin all excited cuz of Spurrier isnt going to do anything is set yaselves up for a let down but we will see. Hes a good coach no doubt but he has alot of work to do.

Neo
03-10-2005, 01:01 PM
Good point there Tide and yeah Imma base my knowledge against yours del. I may not be a sports writer but the contest speaks for itself. I know college football and me beating you proves I know just as much as you do.


You beat me by one (1) game. One single game.....Enjoy it. :cool: How many months did I lead that thing? You got lucky, but to judge a football team based on a contest is absurd. :cool:



The day the Tide football programs bows to the SC program will be the day that SC gets that 13th national title or maybe that 24th SEC championship, since yall have neither one right now yall need to slow yalls roll and remember yalls place in the SEC...... below the Tennessees, Floridas , Georgias, Alabamas , LSU's , and Auburns. Gettin all excited cuz of Spurrier isnt going to do anything is set yaselves up for a let down but we will see. Hes a good coach no doubt but he has alot of work to do.


It's like I said before, we don't need MNC's or SEC titles to OWN Shula. I find it funny that you say we're below Alabama. If we have whipped Bama back to back and 3/5 games, what does that say for Bama? Before I would start judging Spurrier and his abilities, I would look at my own program. :cool:

BTW: Don't you have to beat those teams this century also?????

JerryBeeds
03-10-2005, 01:02 PM
Brody Croyle is horrible. Even when he's healthy the Tide still went 4-7 and lost at home to Tyrone Nix's Southern Miss. team. Focus on basketball from now on Tide fans.

Hardie
03-10-2005, 01:06 PM
LOL bud the point is I beat you so that says I know a lil about football wether you wanna admit it or not. Im not judgin a football team based on what I can do Im telling you that South Carolina isnt in Alabamas league if you wanna stack things up. Yeah over the last 5 yrs yall have been on our level but hey our level over the past 5 yrs has been around the Vandy / Kentucky level so if yall are happy bein on that level then rejoice lol. Im lookin at our program and we are definatly heading in the right direction. YOu dont come back from probation and loss of scholarships over night but the progress we have made since the loss of coach Fran is noticable. YOu get ya cracks in now while you can but like Tide said about Kentucky and basketball is going to ring true for Alabama and a return to where we belong in football. Tradition does still mean something to ppl out there and for that reason right there we are going to be on the road back to the top cuz that tradition will lure talent to the capstone.

JerryBeeds
03-10-2005, 01:10 PM
Yea just like Notre Dame is on the way back right? At one point Army and Navy had "tradition" but how is that working out for them?

Neo
03-10-2005, 01:11 PM
Yea just like Notre Dame is on the way back right? At one point Army and Navy had "tradition" but how is that working out for them?

OUCH! :eek:

Neo
03-10-2005, 01:15 PM
http://imagevenue.com/loc235/th_b67_tantrum_edited.jpg

Hardie
03-10-2005, 01:22 PM
Hey Notre Dame will be back you can count on that as well. Like I said comin back isnt something that happens over night it takes time. YOu have to have the right pieces in place and at Alabama our pieces are right in place. Better enjoy the time we are down while you can cuz Alabama wont be down for much longer

jneesy
03-10-2005, 01:25 PM
we didn't bow down to king steve when he was at florida we sure aren't gonna do while he coaches at a farm school

Hardie
03-10-2005, 01:29 PM
As I recall back in 99 we beat ole king Steves Florida Gators twice in the same season to win yet another SEC championship.

JerryBeeds
03-10-2005, 01:43 PM
Yea wasn't most of that 99 team paid by Mike (can't keep his quill out of the company ink) Dubose. See you in september boys.

Neo
03-10-2005, 01:44 PM
we didn't bow down to king steve when he was at florida we sure aren't gonna do while he coaches at a farm school

You're thinking of Clemson.... :cool: DUH!

Neo
03-10-2005, 01:45 PM
Yea wasn't most of that 99 team paid by Mike (can't keep his quill out of the company ink) Dubose. See you in september boys.

OUCH!!! :cool:

Hardie
03-10-2005, 01:59 PM
lol can you prove that ? I didnt see Albert Means out there playin then so I highly doubt that we paid the 99 team. HOw about SC current bunch of football players. Yall keep going like yall are and the only rival game yall will have will be against the prison guards hehe

JerryBeeds
03-10-2005, 02:01 PM
Old regime buddy. You can't blame W for things that happened on Clinton's watch can you?

Neo
03-10-2005, 02:02 PM
lol can you prove that ? I didnt see Albert Means out there playin then so I highly doubt that we paid the 99 team. HOw about SC current bunch of football players. Yall keep going like yall are and the only rival game yall will have will be against the prison guards hehe

Don't make me bring out the list of criminals on the Tide's team...

Armed Robbery? Ring a bell? :cool:

Tidetalk
03-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Brody Croyle is horrible. Even when he's healthy the Tide still went 4-7 and lost at home to Tyrone Nix's Southern Miss. team. Focus on basketball from now on Tide fans.

Alabama lost to Southern Miss in 2000, before Brodie was in college.

JerryBeeds
03-10-2005, 02:12 PM
My mistake, but he does have a Dondrial Pinkins like won-loss record. :D

Neo
03-10-2005, 02:17 PM
My mistake, but he does have a Dondrial Pinkins like won-loss record. :D

I still like what Volnooga had to say......


I don't know, maybe look at UA's last decade of football, and relize that bama is no longer a Top tier SC football Program?

Jordan
03-10-2005, 07:01 PM
Brody Croyle is horrible. Even when he's healthy the Tide still went 4-7 and lost at home to Tyrone Nix's Southern Miss. team. Focus on basketball from now on Tide fans.
Now that is the year that even with my open-mindedness, I DO give an excuse for... We played like crap that year, no doubt about it. But what can you expect that year? Heck, I'm just glad we won four games that season! We had our coach leave us at the last minute to go to another school after saying he was going to stay on board, giving us just months to find a replacement for him. When Shula got on board, it was already May.... well, after the usual spring practices begin. Upon his hire date, he had just over 3 months to gain the trust of his fellow teammates (most of whom felt very betrayed and confused by the whole Franchione departure), get them up to speed on his game plans, and try to deal with all of the media exposure surrounding everything. That's not easy for any coach/program, and again, I'm just glad we won 4 games that year.

Jordan
03-10-2005, 07:04 PM
Hey Notre Dame will be back you can count on that as well. Like I said comin back isnt something that happens over night it takes time. YOu have to have the right pieces in place and at Alabama our pieces are right in place. Better enjoy the time we are down while you can cuz Alabama wont be down for much longer
I completely agree Hardie. Everything's beginning to build up again around our program, but it's not going to happen immediately. It might still be 2-3 more years of solid recruiting before we have the depth we need to be a serious contender in the SEC, but we are slowly getting stronger every year.

Neo
03-10-2005, 09:18 PM
I completely agree Hardie. Everything's beginning to build up again around our program, but it's not going to happen immediately. It might still be 2-3 more years of solid recruiting before we have the depth we need to be a serious contender in the SEC, but we are slowly getting stronger every year.

Thank you Jordan!

That's what we've been trying to say and even then, you may not peak like you did in the past. :cool:

BamaFan
03-11-2005, 05:53 AM
That was your own fault. Quit CHEATING and it won't happen. :cool:

This is almost pointless, name one single SEC team that somehow wasnt implicated in the Means Scandal.
Cheating? Least we dont keep a Bondsman on retainer :)

And call it a battle cry if you want to but yeah Historically we are the BEST hands down when talking the #1 team in College history there is no question, #2 is not even close. SC wouldnt even be considered in the top 50, so ya strung along a few wins over Bama.....so what......you have to talk now because you know it wont last long. Arkansas has won 36% of there conference games historically while Alabama has won nearly 70%. Do the math Im quite sure you SC boys can add, its ok if you use scratch paper we wont hold it against you.

Cockrocker
03-11-2005, 08:05 AM
This is almost pointless, name one single SEC team that somehow wasnt implicated in the Means Scandal.
Cheating? Least we dont keep a Bondsman on retainer :)

And call it a battle cry if you want to but yeah Historically we are the BEST hands down when talking the #1 team in College history there is no question, #2 is not even close. SC wouldnt even be considered in the top 50, so ya strung along a few wins over Bama.....so what......you have to talk now because you know it wont last long. Arkansas has won 36% of there conference games historically while Alabama has won nearly 70%. Do the math Im quite sure you SC boys can add, its ok if you use scratch paper we wont hold it against you.

Testy little suckers, aren't they?

Neo
03-11-2005, 09:48 AM
This is almost pointless, name one single SEC team that somehow wasnt implicated in the Means Scandal.
Cheating? Least we dont keep a Bondsman on retainer :)


USC wasn't implicated and before you start spewing about criminals, Alabama has had their fair share of drug dealing and armed robberies. :cool:



And call it a battle cry if you want to but yeah Historically we are the BEST hands down when talking the #1 team in College history there is no question, #2 is not even close. SC wouldnt even be considered in the top 50, so ya strung along a few wins over Bama.....so what......you have to talk now because you know it wont last long. Arkansas has won 36% of there conference games historically while Alabama has won nearly 70%. Do the math Im quite sure you SC boys can add, its ok if you use scratch paper we wont hold it against you.


What would that percentage be for the last 5-10 years? :cool: And around we go....Start preaching about what we did 30 years ago instead of what we've done lately.

Tidetalk
03-11-2005, 11:12 AM
USC wasn't implicated and before you start spewing about criminals, Alabama has had their fair share of drug dealing and armed robberies. :cool:





What would that percentage be for the last 5-10 years? :cool: And around we go....Start preaching about what we did 30 years ago instead of what we've done lately.
Could you tell us what history we can use? You have gone digging for an arrest of a walk-on that occurred 2 years ago. So we can use history for criminal convictions. You have gone back as far as you possibly can to cite NCAA violations. So, I guess we can use history for that. But, for some reason, we can't cite any of the championships or where we stand nationally in all-time winning %, bowl appearances and wins, etc. Do we have to delete the NCAA & SEC record books? Just tell us the ground rules and we will play by them.

fernandomike
03-11-2005, 12:54 PM
Could you tell us what history we can use? You have gone digging for an arrest of a walk-on that occurred 2 years ago. So we can use history for criminal convictions. You have gone back as far as you possibly can to cite NCAA violations. So, I guess we can use history for that. But, for some reason, we can't cite any of the championships or where we stand nationally in all-time winning %, bowl appearances and wins, etc. Do we have to delete the NCAA & SEC record books? Just tell us the ground rules and we will play by them.

Your use of the term "we" here is misplaced. I have no doubt that "you" will play by the ground rules, but I doubt that you can speak for the rest of the Tide faithful. You and several other Bama fans are classy, sensible, and knowledgeable posters. The sensible guys may poke a little fun, talk a little smack, and acknowledge your team's past success but always with a measure of respect for your opponents.

But, if you review this board. There is also a different kind of Tide fan. Its the guy that blames the sanctions that Bama received on the NCAA, the SEC, Fulmer, anybody except those who were truly responsible for the situation. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard the inarticulate mutterings "fat phil...snitch...fat..SOB...cheating...fat," I would be a rich man. This guy does nothing, but talk about how his rivals are loaded with a bunch of thugs. I am sorry, but this isn't the Ivy League. Every team has thugs. As you know, a team may be filled with quality individuals, but a few incidents obscure the real picture. This second kind of fan doesn't want to hear about that. They are all about casting disparaging remarks and talking about Bama's glorious past. The reality is that we live in "what have you done for me lately," quick-fix, microwave country. Sure, there is nothing wrong with paying homage to the past, but when it becomes your focus then that says a lot about your present status.

I concede that each school has both polite fans and idiots on this board. Perhaps, I am hyper-sensitive to Bama's idiots because much of their anger is directed toward UT. This could be the case. It also could be that Bama's worst really are that bad because they are the angriest. At any rate, I am bracing myself for lots of flak from Tide fans. Its okay though, I am a big boy.

Neo
03-11-2005, 04:14 PM
Very good post Fernando.

Excellent view that even I must agree with. :cool:

fernandomike
03-11-2005, 05:12 PM
Very good post Fernando.

Excellent view that even I must agree with. :cool:

thanks, neo.

Tidetalk
03-11-2005, 09:19 PM
Your use of the term "we" here is misplaced. I have no doubt that "you" will play by the ground rules, but I doubt that you can speak for the rest of the Tide faithful. You and several other Bama fans are classy, sensible, and knowledgeable posters. The sensible guys may poke a little fun, talk a little smack, and acknowledge your team's past success but always with a measure of respect for your opponents.

But, if you review this board. There is also a different kind of Tide fan. Its the guy that blames the sanctions that Bama received on the NCAA, the SEC, Fulmer, anybody except those who were truly responsible for the situation. If I had a nickel for everytime I heard the inarticulate mutterings "fat phil...snitch...fat..SOB...cheating...fat," I would be a rich man. This guy does nothing, but talk about how his rivals are loaded with a bunch of thugs. I am sorry, but this isn't the Ivy League. Every team has thugs. As you know, a team may be filled with quality individuals, but a few incidents obscure the real picture. This second kind of fan doesn't want to hear about that. They are all about casting disparaging remarks and talking about Bama's glorious past. The reality is that we live in "what have you done for me lately," quick-fix, microwave country. Sure, there is nothing wrong with paying homage to the past, but when it becomes your focus then that says a lot about your present status.

I concede that each school has both polite fans and idiots on this board. Perhaps, I am hyper-sensitive to Bama's idiots because much of their anger is directed toward UT. This could be the case. It also could be that Bama's worst really are that bad because they are the angriest. At any rate, I am bracing myself for lots of flak from Tide fans. Its okay though, I am a big boy.

I appreciate yor kind words, Fernando. Admittedly, there are Bama fans that are less than gracious. Unfortunately, all schools have them (as this board has proven). Several posters on this board (and in this thread) refer to Alabama as "cheaters." I promise that most of them have very little knowledge of the facts of Alabama's case.

There are some Bama fans that frustrate me. For instance, those that want Shula gone because he went 4-9 in his first season even under almost impossible circumstances (I have to careful here or I will get blasted for making excuses for a poor season).

There are many Bama fans that think Bama should go 13-0 every year, no matter what, just because we are Bama. Obviously, that is irrational on one hand. On the other, I am proud that we expect to win every game. I think we will go 7-4 next season as of now. But, I promise you that when UF, UT, and LSU roll into town, I will head to those games fully expecting to win them even though we are not as deep as any of those teams. There is nothing wrong with that.

Keep in mind that the poster who started this thread went to a UA board and got mad at what the posters were posting about Alabama. Yes, most Alabama fans, including me, expect to beat South Carolina. Sorry. (If Brodie goes down the week before we play them, I might change my prediction.) If you don't like to hear that, don't go to an Alabama board. If you are a conservative, stay away from the ACLU web site.

I have not yelled and screamed because the USC fans expect to beat Bama this year, or that they say they "own" us when they have actually won 2 of 4 on the field against us. If they are going to talk smack, they need to be ready when someone points out that they don't have much to talk about.

supergenius
03-11-2005, 09:31 PM
Well said, God Bless America RTR!

jneesy
03-11-2005, 10:39 PM
amen brother

fernandomike
03-12-2005, 09:42 AM
As always nice response, Tidetalk. I think that the developing animosity between Bama and Gamecock fans is logical. I think that the matchup is critical. The teams are so closely matched that each schools fans legitimately believe that they will win the game. Further, both teams are struggling to take a step up into the top teams in the conference. Realistically though, it might take awhile longer for each. Like we have talked about before, if I were a Tide fan, I would be very concerned about depth on the offensive side of the ball. More specifically, there is a lack of experience and depth on the offensive line. The Gamecocks will undoubtedly be hurt by the loss of Summers and the other suspensions/dismissals. I do not know there roster very well, but I would have to think that there depth will be a cause of concern too. Although, I like neither team, I do think that this will be one of the more interesting games this upcoming season.

Tidetalk
03-12-2005, 09:58 AM
As always nice response, Tidetalk. I think that the developing animosity between Bama and Gamecock fans is logical. I think that the matchup is critical. The teams are so closely matched that each schools fans legitimately believe that they will win the game. Further, both teams are struggling to take a step up into the top teams in the conference. Realistically though, it might take awhile longer for each. Like we have talked about before, if I were a Tide fan, I would be very concerned about depth on the offensive side of the ball. More specifically, there is a lack of experience and depth on the offensive line. The Gamecocks will undoubtedly be hurt by the loss of Summers and the other suspensions/dismissals. I do not know there roster very well, but I would have to think that there depth will be a cause of concern too. Although, I like neither team, I do think that this will be one of the more interesting games this upcoming season.

Right on as usual Fernando. Although, I think we are a lot better off in some positions with regard to depth than we were last year. And, certainly, by the grace of God, we will stop having the absurd number of critical injuries at some point. Still, more true Freshmen will have to play than I would like again this year. Probably 13-16 just like last year. (Only 2 true frosh played in Fran's 2 years here).

I break Bama's schedule up like this: There are 4 teams with more depth and talent - UF, LSU, UT, AU. 2-3 teams with equivalent talent - Ark, SC, OM. The other 4-5 we should be expected to win on paper. That makes the SC game a critical road game since we play 3 of our 4 toughest opponents at home.

That is how I come up with 7-4 on paper. Anything can happen with Auburn and we have a better record down there than we do at home lately. If we can steal 1 or 2 out of UF, LSU and UT at home, then who knows. UF will still be learning Meyer's new system when we play. The same goes for USC with Spurrier. Ark plays the real USC the week before we play them, so they will be a little weary. Things could fall into place for a good year for us if we get a few breaks, which we are due after last year.

Neo
03-12-2005, 10:08 AM
I appreciate yor kind words, Fernando. Admittedly, there are Bama fans that are less than gracious. Unfortunately, all schools have them (as this board has proven). Several posters on this board (and in this thread) refer to Alabama as "cheaters." I promise that most of them have very little knowledge of the facts of Alabama's case.


The facts were dictated by the NCAA. I cannot speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself. If you really want people to stop questioning Alabama and their tactics, it's going to take a while to earn that trust back. I mean, really look at the situation. Alabama was busted twice (2) within a ten (10) year window. By the rules, they should have gotten the Death Penalty per the repeat violation/violator rule.



There are some Bama fans that frustrate me. For instance, those that want Shula gone because he went 4-9 in his first season even under almost impossible circumstances (I have to careful here or I will get blasted for making excuses for a poor season).


That season I can understand. Even though it was a result of Alabama's NCAA violations, in no way, shape or form should Shula been reamed over that year. If I'm not mistaken, he had something to the tune of eight (8) weeks to install an offense & defense. Given the circumstances, 4-9 was a blessing in disguise. In defense of what Fernando said though, there's only one (1) thing to blame and it's not Phillip Fulmer.




There are many Bama fans that think Bama should go 13-0 every year, no matter what, just because we are Bama. Obviously, that is irrational on one hand. On the other, I am proud that we expect to win every game. I think we will go 7-4 next season as of now. But, I promise you that when UF, UT, and LSU roll into town, I will head to those games fully expecting to win them even though we are not as deep as any of those teams. There is nothing wrong with that.


Once again, I agree with your statement here. It's totally irrational and just plain ignorant that given the competitive level in college football and the SEC to expect a 13-0 season every year. To expect/hope for victories is fine. Nothing wrong with that, we all do it. Considering some of the posters positions here, some of them are just way out in left field. Given Bama's current situation, I would not be predicting SEC Championships and such anytime soon. This team is not going to recover from the iron fist of the NCAA in one (1) year. It's just not gonna happen.



Keep in mind that the poster who started this thread went to a UA board and got mad at what the posters were posting about Alabama. Yes, most Alabama fans, including me, expect to beat South Carolina. Sorry. (If Brodie goes down the week before we play them, I might change my prediction.) If you don't like to hear that, don't go to an Alabama board. If you are a conservative, stay away from the ACLU web site.


I cannot vouch for that because I wasn't on the Bama boards. I can say this though, while the Tide fans can expect to beat USC, that doesn't mean it's going to happen. Alabama fans in general (Not all of them) have more often than not, been totally unrealistic. Take last year for example, you and Jordan were the only ones that came out and admitted that you got whipped. A few other Bama fans make up excuse after excuse and some of us (USC fans) just grow tired of hearing it. It seems like, sometimes a Tide fan has more excuses than a man going to jail. When we ask about these excuses, then it falls back on tradition. Well, the year is 2005. There's nothing wrong with wanting the best, but be reasonable. In my humble opinion, I don't ever see Alabama returning to the glory from the 60's-80's. There is wayyy too much competition in college football now, let alone in the SEC for that to happen.

While Alabama has gotten weaker, the rest of the SEC has gotten stronger.



I have not yelled and screamed because the USC fans expect to beat Bama this year, or that they say they "own" us when they have actually won 2 of 4 on the field against us. If they are going to talk smack, they need to be ready when someone points out that they don't have much to talk about.



We as USC fans do not have a lot to talk about, but we are looking at the present and towards the future. We don't rely on ol' Grandpa stories. We are focusing on the "now" because what's the past going to do for you now? :cool:

JBryant12
03-12-2005, 10:55 AM
i hear bout ole Grandpa stories all the time.....might be cuz ma grandpa played for USC but still we have some history...

Hardie
03-12-2005, 12:50 PM
Thats the diffrence in Alabama fans and SC fans my friend. We know we arent going to win every game but we take each game as being winable. Thats not sayin we expect 13 -0 seasons but we arent going to be surprised by one either. I think as a true fan you go for ya team no matter what and you have the mindset that anything can happen on any given Saturday and you will win ya game on Saturday. If Alabama was to play USC Trojans this year for example... we all know Alabama would probably lose but we are going into that sayin we are going to win and we are going to believe we are going to win just because thats how you should approach games. Why bow down to someone just cuz they have more talent and more depth an that #1 beside their name, we wont and we will play them with all we have and we are going to expect to win. If we dont win t hen its going to hurt , every loss hurts , but we are going to pick ourselves up and go on to our next game which we expect to win. You keep bringin up how Bama fans live on the past , well the thing is without the past you will have no future. We have a proud tradition and we are very proud of that tradition as would yall be if yall had the tradition we do. Yes Alabama has questions on the O-line and depth issues but when it comes down to it , its heart that wins football games and if they show the heart I know they can then we will over come the problems we have , come together and just shock everyone. I believe that because I believe thats what Alabama football is... HEART and TRADITION.

bleedsgarnet
03-12-2005, 03:17 PM
dude, the past is important to a degree..it gives you something to always remember.."remember in 92"..blah blah....you cannot live on the past..perfect example is Notre Dame..they live in the past...Notre Dame talks of legends and all..that does not help next yr...Notre Dame is past its football prime...they will never compete again..You guys better shape up too...with the parity of scholarships it is much more even..Bear got every kid on the east coast to walk on, just because he did not want auburn to have them...right the ship..Alabama is not feared anymore

jbuzbee
03-15-2005, 01:27 PM
dude, the past is important to a degree..it gives you something to always remember.."remember in 92"..blah blah....you cannot live on the past..perfect example is Notre Dame..they live in the past...Notre Dame talks of legends and all..that does not help next yr...Notre Dame is past its football prime...they will never compete again..You guys better shape up too...with the parity of scholarships it is much more even..Bear got every kid on the east coast to walk on, just because he did not want auburn to have them...right the ship..Alabama is not feared anymore

I agree that to a certain extent Alabama is not feared anymore but I don't know that any team is really feared in the SEC because (with the exception of Vandy and UK) any team can beat any other team regardless of current or all time records. Just look at MSU's victory over Florida last year. How can you say that Notre Dame "will never compete again"? They just hired a really good coach who knows football and especially offense. ND already has a pretty good D and they just need the O. Kids still come from all around wanting to play for ND----mainly because of the history that you dismiss. The present is more important but a rich history doesn't hurt either.

bleedsgarnet
03-17-2005, 02:40 PM
its easy//Notre Dame has a higher set of admission standards//they cannot get a group of 85 players to compete with a school who has lower entrance requirements..that is a fact..they do not recruit jc transfers..dont take prop 48s anymore...they are tied by who they can bring in

BAMA NATE
03-18-2005, 08:20 PM
I don't understand how in the hell y'all USC guys can go pickin' on Alabama. Alabama has the best tradition of all but y'all ain't never been nothing special. I just don't understand.

I'm also tired of hearing about our NCAA infractions. The NCAA loves to pick on us. They even ignored violations at UT in exchange to come after us. Now there is no excuse for that kind of crap. Y'all act like Alabama is the only school that has ever done anything wrong. Its Disgusting!!!! :mad:

Bamabelle in georgia
03-18-2005, 08:31 PM
I never realized how egotistical and high and mighty they seem to be..If i hear that "i am just a plowhand" quote one more time...if you go on their site, you would swear that they are gonna win the national championship. Hey guys...you are thin, thin, thin...if you guys have even two injuries you are dead meat...When you jokers come into williams-brice and get schooled, like last year, i dont want to hear the excuses. I know you will have them..you will blame everything from the turf to the weather..not once did someone post that you got your asses handed to you by the cocks last yr..be ready boys...one thing that you guys never discuss is this..usc has beaten you twice out of four tries..that has to hurt..ouch..haha..later bozos.. :cool:

last year and every other year in Tuscaloosa and I'll say I was sickened at the play of our team. You beat us fair and square. But forgive us if we grew up with winning. Some of us still believe we will win every saturday, regardless. I offer no excuses like you accuse in your text. Bring it on next year SC, if you still have enough to field a team.

roll tide.

uscballer101
03-18-2005, 08:33 PM
I pick Bama to win the west this next year...So its not all USC fans, but you guys arent picked on, its called illegal actions...The actions have to be there, its not like they are planting things on you guys...

Neo
03-18-2005, 08:40 PM
I don't understand how in the hell y'all USC guys can go pickin' on Alabama. Alabama has the best tradition of all but y'all ain't never been nothing special. I just don't understand.

Tradition will only get you so far. Army & Navy have tradition and where are they now? The thing that bothers me is the fact that Bama fans as a whole, try to have their cake and eat it to. When someone criticizes the UA program, you bring up your winning tradition. When people mention the scandals involved with UA during that tradition, you then mention how much you are above that now. When someone mentions the current state of the program, you revert back to your tradition. You can't have your cake and eat it to? You have to accept the bad with the good.



I'm also tired of hearing about our NCAA infractions. The NCAA loves to pick on us. They even ignored violations at UT in exchange to come after us. Now there is no excuse for that kind of crap. Y'all act like Alabama is the only school that has ever done anything wrong. Its Disgusting!!!! :mad:

Quit breaking the rules and people will stop. Per the NCAA Guidelines, (For being a repeat offender) Alabama should have received a min of a 1 year Death Penalty. Did they? Nope and that's called selective punishment. It's hypocrisy at it's most purest form. If it was UTEP or Vanderbilt, they would have gotten the death penalty like SMU did.

Can you prove that Mr. Fulmer sold you out? If not, then your accusation is meritless to say the least. If Bama would have been playing by the rules, then nothing would have happened. Put simply, it's not that we think Bama is the only one. It's just that Bama is CONSTANTLY breaking the rules and it makes us all look bad. Quit blaming UT for everything and start accepting responsibility for the actions of your university.

As for you Bambelle, I will give you your props. At least you didn't try to come up with some lame excuse for the loss. BTW: Don't worry, we'll be ready to stomp you again this year. :cool:

uscballer101
03-18-2005, 08:42 PM
Man they should not be able to "kill" any program...look at SMU now, its just not right to do that to a team, no matter who it is...Not even Clemson would deserve that...

Neo
03-18-2005, 08:43 PM
Man they should not be able to "kill" any program...look at SMU now, its just not right to do that to a team, no matter who it is...Not even Clemson would deserve that...


Yes they would...I support the NCAA Death Penalty for repeat offenders. It sends a strong message to play by the rules. :cool:

uscballer101
03-18-2005, 08:44 PM
Yeah, I just think its alittle too harsh, thats all...

Neo
03-18-2005, 08:47 PM
Yeah, I just think its alittle too harsh, thats all...

When teams cheat, it costs other schools millions of dollars. If you don't cheat, you have nothing to worry about. :cool:

Imagine if your team lost the Orange Bowl to a team that was full of players bought and paid for. Let's also say they have been busted three (3) times since their initial bust and they continued to do it. How would you honestly feel?

uscballer101
03-18-2005, 08:50 PM
Pissed...but they should just keep cutting the number of scholarships that they are able to give out...like say if they are repeat offenders like bama is then cut their available scholarships to 50...that would teach them...

Neo
03-18-2005, 08:51 PM
Pissed...but they should just keep cutting the number of scholarships that they are able to give out...like say if they are repeat offenders like bama is then cut their available scholarships to 50...that would teach them...


That doesn't work...The NCAA did that to Bama the first time and it kept going on. :cool:

Hardie
03-19-2005, 03:41 AM
Well what do you think the NCAA should do to SC since they cant seem to keep their players under control?

CockyTatGuy
03-19-2005, 04:56 AM
How sad is this??? South Carolina fans workin themselves up for a big let down. Face it yall Yall dont ever do anything in football and beating an Alabama team on NCAA sactions is yalls claim to greatness,umm something is wrong with that.Im sorry to say but just cuz yall got Steve Spurrier dont instantly make yall a legit threat. Spurrier is a good coach but this is South Carolina football we are talkin about. Yall have a long way to go if yalls big thrill is beatin an Alabama team not at full strength. The reason that victory means so much to yall anyways is cuz of the type of school we are.

No, the reason it was such a big victory was because it showed the true colors of a bunch of Bama fans. I swear I couldn't hear the announcers call the game for all of the car doors slamming. You know, before this site Bama was my 2nd team in college football. I think I would rather beat yall than I had Clemson or Tennessee now, I may even pull a "bama fan" and start pulling for the Bayou Bengals as my other team.

Also, the NCAA should keep their nose out of what is going on down here. We have a coach that is committed to runing (is that spelled right, sorry just got off working a 14) a clean program and making sure that the kids we have are going to represent our school with the dignity that is Gamecock football (which by the way is what distinguishes us from a certain other orange and purple wearing school in SC that shall remain nameless). I hate to say it, but if this was happening and Lou was still the coach I would be calling for the NCAA to put a stop to it.

Neo
03-19-2005, 08:28 AM
Well what do you think the NCAA should do to SC since they cant seem to keep their players under control?

Technically, USC hasn't broken any rules as of yet. Spurrier is dismissing players that go outta line and that's all he can do. :cool:

BAMA NATE
03-19-2005, 09:20 AM
You guys are so freakin' jealous!

DeL, the only reason you keep downing our tradition is because y'all don't have one at USC. And don't even dare say that we make everybody else look bad. In fact, we're the only school that the SEC should be proud of. Jealousy is an ugly thing. Y'all act like that we should apologize for having so great of a program. We can't help it that we've always been winners and y'all ain't never been nothing but losers!

Neo
03-19-2005, 09:26 AM
You guys are so freakin' jealous!

DeL, the only reason you keep downing our tradition is because y'all don't have one at USC. And don't even dare say that we make everybody else look bad. In fact, we're the only school that the SEC should be proud of. Jealousy is an ugly thing. Y'all act like that we should apologize for having so great of a program. We can't help it that we've always been winners and y'all ain't never been nothing but losers!


You just proved my point. When confronted about the current state of the program...you revert back on your tradition. :cool:

Playing by the rules is more important to me than winning.

BAMA NATE
03-19-2005, 09:30 AM
Yeah sure.

You'd be just fine with cheating if it could get y'all more than 6 wins in a season. ;)

Neo
03-19-2005, 09:34 AM
Yeah sure.

You'd be just fine with cheating if it could get y'all more than 6 wins in a season. ;)

Just because you are fine with cheating...doesn't mean we all are. That's one thing I have always prided myself on. USC's football team hasn't had a NCAA violation since 1967.

We may not have the success of Alabama, Florida State or Miami, but at least we earn our wins by the rules. :cool:

cocky4ever
03-19-2005, 10:18 AM
You guys are so freakin' jealous!

DeL, the only reason you keep downing our tradition is because y'all don't have one at USC. And don't even dare say that we make everybody else look bad. In fact, we're the only school that the SEC should be proud of. Jealousy is an ugly thing. Y'all act like that we should apologize for having so great of a program. We can't help it that we've always been winners and y'all ain't never been nothing but losers!
The only school the SEC should be proud of. I must say I think that is about the most egotistical post I've ever seen on this forum, and I've seen some pretty bad ones.

GAMECOCK_FAN
03-19-2005, 10:29 AM
I'm also tired of hearing about our NCAA infractions. The NCAA loves to pick on us. They even ignored violations at UT in exchange to come after us. Now there is no excuse for that kind of crap. Y'all act like Alabama is the only school that has ever done anything wrong. Its Disgusting!!!! :mad:

Yea, the NCAA has it in for you. Right.....That's about as ridiculous a statement I've heard in a while. I'm sure the NCAA dreamed up all those violations just to get Alabama, when Alabama did absolutely nothing wrong. ;)

In fact, we're the only school that the SEC should be proud of.
What a pathetic statement! :(

JBryant12
03-19-2005, 12:35 PM
the only school to be proud of...yeah right thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard....if the SEC isnt proud of all of their schools they would kick em out...

Jordan
03-19-2005, 01:30 PM
Wow.... this thread's starting to get pretty ugly.

As for the Bama fan stating that "we're the only school that the SEC should be proud of".... that's just stupid thinking. There are plenty of other teams that have made the SEC what it is. Where would the SEC be right now if we'd never had LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, Ole Miss, Florida, and really all of the others. Our conference would be right down there on the bottom of the list. Bama obviously helped the conference gain strength in the early days, but without the contributions of the other teams in recent years, the SEC would simply have fallen apart by now.

And my 2 cents on Neo's comment about never having an NCAA violation.... I agree with that to a degree, but I also look at ANY school in the SEC or any other conference, and think you can only put so much pride in that. I don't know that much about USC, so I can't comment for y'all. But there are plenty of schools out there that don't have an official violation down in the books, but I guarantee there have been some that went on at those schools. This doesn't apply to all schools by any means, but you can only put so much into comparing schools based on number of violations.

I could go out and steal 100 cars and never get caught until my 101st car, therefore I've only got 1 GTA on my record. But someone else could go out and steal 6 cars and get caught each time and have all of them on their record. I stole a TON more cars than the person with 6 on their record, but I look like a much better person than them if you just look at our records. :)

Again, I'm not saying that USC has done anything wrong, as I don't know much about the program. But I can almost guarantee you that there are plenty of schools who have slipped by on plenty of things. Heck, I'm sure we've probably done some other things in the past that didn't get caught. It's just a part of life, there's always going to be people who make bad decisions.

Hardie
03-20-2005, 02:38 AM
Well the long and short of it , SC has a good coach , had a couple of over .500 years and now they think they are on the brink of being great. Yeah Alabama as of late hasnt been the greatest of programs but yanno what..... it sure got ya pretty excited to finally beat us. As much as you would hate to admit it you wish SC had the tradition Alabama had up until the NCAA infractions. Thats not going back to the past thats just sayin yall dont have a past worth going back too. I could care less if you feel Alabama isnt as good as SC or that SC is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I love Alabama , I love the football program, basketball, baseball, gym, all the sports. I love the educational system , the campus, the feeling of going to bryant denny and watchin in my opinion the greatest university of them all play football. Your opinion on things is appreciated and makes for interesting reading but thats as far as it goes. I aint going to go out and cry or get mad cuz you think like you do about something. Im an Alabama fan born , an Alabama fan bread, and I'll be an Alabama fan dead. If you ask me I think you might be takin this post a lil personal but thats just an opinion on my part and we all know what they say about opinions lol

uscballer101
03-20-2005, 02:47 AM
Trust me, your opinion is very much appreciated as this is a message board...But we USC fans have never experienced a consistently winning program, so when we think we see one on the horizon, we get excited...But like all fans on this message board we are proud of our program so we may take a few things personal as well...

Neo
03-20-2005, 10:05 AM
Damn!

You guys from Bama are really full of yourselves huh? This is pretty egotistical if you ask me. :cool:



In fact, we're the only school that the SEC should be proud of.

As much as you would hate to admit it you wish SC had the tradition Alabama had up until the NCAA infractions.

Jordan
03-20-2005, 10:43 AM
Come on man, you know EVERY school has plenty of fans that think their school is the best team in the country. That's just a part of many sports fans. They stick with their team no mtter what the situation.

As you can see by my posted reaction to BAMA NATE's comments, I think those statements were ridiculous. So to say "you guys from Bama are really full of yourselves" includes fans like me who do not feel that way. You can look at any school and see the same types of fans. Looking here and around the web, there are plenty of USC fans who think that USC is going to win the SEC this year b/c they have Spurrier. There are plenty of LSU, Tennessee, UGA, and Florida fans who think their school is the best in the SEC. It happens everywhere, so why are we singling out fans from one school?

autiger1126
03-20-2005, 11:57 AM
You didn't include AU.... Oh wait, we don't think that we are the best in the SEC. We ARE the best in the SEC. ;) ;)

JBryant12
03-20-2005, 11:59 AM
you were the best in the SEC...spring practice has started meaning a new season has started...

autiger1126
03-20-2005, 12:06 PM
We're the best in the SEC till someone knocks us off as far as I'm concerned.

JBryant12
03-20-2005, 12:07 PM
allright ill give you that...but once SEC play starts your not going undefeated...

cocky4ever
03-20-2005, 12:27 PM
We're the best in the SEC till someone knocks us off as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, anytime your team goes undefeated you have the right to talk S^% until someone beats you.

nooneLT
03-20-2005, 04:37 PM
there's excuses and then there's facts. excuses include the refs were against us (although it did happen in the lsu and the minnesota game last year -_-), they were playing dirty...facts would be we lost our entire backfield, we have no depth. (of course we have to be blamed for having no depth because of our infractions).

us bama fans have a reason to look forward to this season. most experts think we're sleeepers in the sec, and it's true. sure we have our depth problems, and our offensive line is gonna be green, but we have the #2 defense in the nation working on that o-line, brodie croyle will be healthy (hopefully for the whole season).

like i said before, i expect a 7-4 season, maybe 8-3 if we can pull off some upsets. i do expect us to beat usc, but only because it's spurrier's first year. it'll take more than a year to set up. if you ask what the difference between last year and this year is, it's clear, our qb. before brodie got injured he threw 6 TD's and had 0 picks, and i think pennington and guillon combined for 5 picks against usc? this is of course if brodie manages to stay off the injury list.

Neo
03-20-2005, 11:49 PM
Those are some BIG ifs.... :cool:

nooneLT
03-21-2005, 01:09 AM
all we need is a little good luck when it comes to injuries :p

BAMA NATE
03-21-2005, 07:01 PM
Why are those big IFs?

Is it just because he expects us to beat USC?

Why do you think that y'all be so great this year? Y'all MIGHT be as good as us if you work hard. DeL, I'll be the first one to post you when the Tide Rolls out of Williams-Brice with another Big W!!!!

Neo
03-21-2005, 09:15 PM
I'll be the first one to post you when the Tide Rolls out of Williams-Brice with another Big W!!!!


Then you woke up with a wet spot in the crotch.... :cool:

supergenius
03-21-2005, 09:43 PM
Yada Yada Well said as usual by our resident scholar. RTR!

Neo
03-21-2005, 09:56 PM
Why are those big IFs?

IF Croyle can stay healthy
IF the offense will click
IF Darby can play this year
IF you can stay injury free


Those are some mighty big "IF's". :cool:

jbuzbee
03-21-2005, 10:38 PM
IF Croyle can stay healthy
IF the offense will click
IF Darby can play this year
IF you can stay injury free


Those are some mighty big "IF's". :cool:


You'd be hard pressed to find any team without some of those "if's"...especially the second one and the fourth one.

Hardie
03-21-2005, 11:19 PM
Exactly right Jbuzbee, every team has the ifs to worry about. What if Spurrier dont click at USC ... what if the entire Offensive goes to jail .. what if the defense joins them lol. Ok thats reachin alot but yall see my point right. Everyone is going to have ?'s going into the season and alot of them are going to be health related and its not just Alabama its everyone.

BAMA NATE
03-22-2005, 09:32 PM
There ain't no such thing as a team without "ifs".

Look what Mike Shula did with the scholarship limits and the countless injuries. He made it to a bowl game and he did'nt have a losing season this past year. Just think of what he could do without those problems. We can be a BCS team if there ain't so much of these. We have the players to do it.

Hardie
03-22-2005, 10:52 PM
Im in total agreement with ya Nate.

Neo
03-23-2005, 12:46 PM
There ain't no such thing as a team without "ifs".

Look what Mike Shula did with the scholarship limits and the countless injuries. He made it to a bowl game and he did'nt have a losing season this past year. Just think of what he could do without those problems. We can be a BCS team if there ain't so much of these. We have the players to do it.


Tue...but there are more teams with a lot LESS ifs. :cool:


BCS team? I think that's pushing it.

Bamabelle in georgia
03-23-2005, 05:22 PM
You didn't include AU.... Oh wait, we don't think that we are the best in the SEC. We ARE the best in the SEC. ;) ;)

and what a shame....you only have cracker jack rings to show for it.
:cool:

Jordan
03-23-2005, 06:42 PM
and what a shame....you only have cracker jack rings to show for it.
:cool:
Actually, he said "the best in the SEC" so technically they DO have championship rings to show for it.

But all I can say is wait till this year. Whether it be LSU or Bama to knock them off the top, Auburn won't win the SEC west this year to even get a shot at defending their title in Atlanta.

bleedsgarnet
03-25-2005, 11:20 AM
heck i didnt realize i was gonna start a post that lead to all this..too bad it has taken 30 turns since the original post..ha

BamaDude06
03-25-2005, 11:53 AM
Since Tubberville has been at Auburn his best years have been even years:
1999: 5-6
2000:9-4-Lost SEC CG (UF) and Citrus Bowl (Michigan)
2001:7-5-Lost Peach Bowl (UNC)
2002:9-4-Won Capitol One Bowl (Penn State)
2003:8-5-Started 0-2 and only scored field goal betweel the two games, Won Music City Bowl (Wisc), but AU President and AD Talk to Louisville's Bobby Petrino about replacing Tubberville the week before Iron Bowl.

Also just for fun: in 1998 Bama played in the Music City Bowl and then won the SEC in 1999. Georgia played in the Music City Bowl in 2001 the won the SEC in 2002. Auburn played in the 2003 MCB then won the SEC in 2004. Bama played in 2004 MCB---SEC Champions in 2005 :D ?? Probably not, but its interesting how so many SEC teams have improved dramatically the next year.

autiger1126
03-25-2005, 11:58 AM
2004: 13-0 Won SECCG, Won Sugar Bowl (VT), beat Bama, LSU, UGA, and Tennesee twice

Neo
05-07-2005, 01:39 PM
We can be a BCS team if there ain't so much of these. We have the players to do it.
HA! HA! HA! :D

http://re2.mm-a.yimg.com/image/1074285482

jneesy
05-07-2005, 02:32 PM
whats up neo trying to repick an old fight?

Neo
05-12-2005, 12:46 AM
whats up neo trying to repick an old fight?


I'm attracted to "Way out in left field" comments. :D :cool:

jneesy
05-12-2005, 09:12 AM
go beat on shockley and give us a break



i've been a good boy............ for the last day or two anyway

IrmoCock
05-12-2005, 03:55 PM
go beat on shockley and give us a break
That's asking for a lot, don't you think?

Neo
06-21-2005, 11:09 PM
That's asking for a lot, don't you think?


Not really.... :cool:

jneesy
06-21-2005, 11:21 PM
those puppy fans just dont fight back like good ol neesy

except maybe the good colonel

bamafan0001
06-21-2005, 11:25 PM
Neo I thought you might be the founder of this famine! lol...Here this is how well settle it, a friendly wager if yall win me and the Bama fans will sign our posts with "Spurrier is my daddy!" But, when or if you guys lose you must A) stop making Shula waffle house farks for at least a day and B) sign your posts with a fark of Steve Spurrier with a rattle and pacifier in his mouth.

bamafan0001
06-21-2005, 11:26 PM
Neo I thought you might be the founder of this famine! lol...Here this is how well settle it, a friendly wager if yall win me and the Bama fans will sign our posts with "Spurrier is my daddy!" But, when or if you guys lose you must A) stop making Shula waffle house farks for at least a day and B) sign your posts with a fark of Steve Spurrier with a rattle and pacifier in his mouth.
Oh with a SC bib on of course.

jneesy
06-21-2005, 11:26 PM
there is already one of those bets going all you have to do is find it and sign on

Neo
06-21-2005, 11:32 PM
Neo I thought you might be the founder of this famine! lol...Here this is how well settle it, a friendly wager if yall win me and the Bama fans will sign our posts with "Spurrier is my daddy!" But, when or if you guys lose you must A) stop making Shula waffle house farks for at least a day and B) sign your posts with a fark of Steve Spurrier with a rattle and pacifier in his mouth.


We already have a bet going. I'm not part of it though because I'm the enforcer. The bet is;

If Bama wins, the USC participants must change their signatures for one (1) week to whatever the Bama fans want as long as it falls within the TOS.

If USC wins, vice versa.

The losers must come on and post at least once a day for seven (7) days.


As for the SOS fark, that's a good idea. I'm gonna work on that tomorrow anyways. :cool:

bamafan0001
06-21-2005, 11:39 PM
We already have a bet going. I'm not part of it though because I'm the enforcer. The bet is;

If Bama wins, the USC participants must change their signatures for one (1) week to whatever the Bama fans want as long as it falls within the TOS.

If USC wins, vice versa.

The losers must come on and post at least once a day for seven (7) days.


As for the SOS fark, that's a good idea. I'm gonna work on that tomorrow anyways. :cool:
That sounds good enough to me!! Where do I sign up??

Neo
06-21-2005, 11:43 PM
That sounds good enough to me!! Where do I sign up??


You're taking the bet>???? :cool:

If so...Okey Dokey! :cool:

Neo
06-21-2005, 11:44 PM
I guess I'm not really the enforcer....just the judge... :cool:

bamafan0001
06-21-2005, 11:45 PM
You're taking the bet>???? :cool:

If so...Okey Dokey! :cool:
Oh I'm iiin, who are the SC flunkies?

Neo
06-21-2005, 11:47 PM
Oh I'm iiin, who are the SC flunkies?


I have it written down somewhere here in my office. I know Cocky4Ever was one of them. I'll have to dig out the list. :cool:

GTmorris1970
06-21-2005, 11:50 PM
I have it written down somewhere here in my office. I know Cocky4Ever was one of the