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Rod Barnes of Ole Miss: "I want to compliment Carlos Powell. I've always admired his play. Whether they are good, bad or okay, he plays the way you are supposed to play with energy and emotion. He's been a model citizen on the basketball court."
Are you hearing that Coach Dennis Felton?
Jay_Lupo
03-07-2005, 11:50 AM
Ha ha. Ole Rod and Dennis seem to differ on their opinions of Carlos :)
OrangeCrush
03-07-2005, 12:03 PM
Rod Barnes of Ole Miss: "I want to compliment Carlos Powell. I've always admired his play. Whether they are good, bad or okay, he plays the way you are supposed to play with energy and emotion. He's been a model citizen on the basketball court."
Are you hearing that Coach Dennis Felton?
Well, if Rod Barnes likes a kid who knows how to flop with NBA precision, then Powell is the man. Other than the flopping, Powell is a fantastic player and brings much energy to the basketball court. And yes, it is up to the zebras to call Powell out when he starts the flopping. I just wish such a great player did not have to resort to flopping.
Well, if Rod Barnes likes a kid who knows how to flop with NBA precision, then Powell is the man. Other than the flopping, Powell is a fantastic player and brings much energy to the basketball court. And yes, it is up to the zebras to call Powell out when he starts the flopping. I just wish such a great player did not have to resort to flopping.
Oh there's not a SINGLE VOL that doesn't practice the flop?
Bulls*&^!
Yeah, and I suppose Dave Odom also has an AVON case so he can fake swollen shut eyes too huh? :rolleyes:
Flopping is part of the game. It's not against the rules. Elbowing someone in the eye is. How can he (Felton) call Carlos a cheater when he plays by the rules? I can bet you that the NCAA won't put us on probation for flopping. You see, that's not against the rules. If it's legal, it's not cheating.
First of all there isn't a coach in the country who doesn't actively practice and teach the art of the flop. Mine all did, every one. For him to get all preachy on how that is "cheating" shows the mentality of a loser: blame everything you can on somebody else, as to why you didn't win.
OrangeCrush
03-07-2005, 12:20 PM
Flopping is part of the game. It's not against the rules. Elbowing someone in the eye is. How can he (Felton) call Carlos a cheater when he plays by the rules? I can bet you that the NCAA won't put us on probation for flopping. You see, that's not against the rules. If it's legal, it's not cheating.
First of all there isn't a coach in the country who doesn't actively practice and teach the art of the flop. Mine all did, every one. For him to get all preachy on how that is "cheating" shows the mentality of a loser: blame everything you can on somebody else, as to why you didn't win.
Flopping is low-class and if that is what you want to repersent, then good for you that this is the land of the free. Flopping is bunk stuff. It is like chop-blocking in the NFL. It is not illegal, but players can be hurt by this stuff. Are you okay with chop-blocking? And no, Carlos Powell does not try to injure players. He flops and does it quite well. Just because your teachers of basketball believe in a practice that I call junk, does not make it right. And the Vols do not flop like Powell does. They just let players back them in and shoot over them. If a double team does come to help inside, then the best 3pt shooter is left wide open with a easy opportunity for a 3ptr. I have not seen Vol players fall to the ground when another player bodies them up.
Powell is a flopper and we all know it. I do not think it is needed, while you support it. As long as we all agree that Powell is a flopper, then all is well :D
Oh yeah, Felton did not make the mess at UGA. He is cleaning it up. That was a cheap shot you put out there because a coach called your player out.
Flopping is low-class and if that is what you want to repersent, then good for you that this is the land of the free. Flopping is bunk stuff. It is like chop-blocking in the NFL. It is not illegal, but players can be hurt by this stuff. Are you okay with chop-blocking? And no, Carlos Powell does not try to injure players. He flops and does it quite well. Just because your teachers of basketball believe in a practice that I call junk, does not make it right. And the Vols do not flop like Powell does. They just let players back them in and shoot over them. If a double team does come to help inside, then the best 3pt shooter is left wide open with a easy opportunity for a 3ptr. I have not seen Vol players fall to the ground when another player bodies them up.
Your sh*& doesn't stink either? :rolleyes:
Powell is a flopper and we all know it. I do not think it is needed, while you support it. As long as we all agree that Powell is a flopper, then all is well :D
Oh yeah, Felton did not make the mess at UGA. He is cleaning it up. That was a cheap shot you put out there because a coach called your player out.
What Felton did was wrong. Did you watch that game? I didn't think so. The coach going out and calling a player a "fraud" is WRONG. The coach is supposed to take the higher road. Not to mention, his little comments are against SEC rules and it got him a nice little reprimand. What kind of message is that sending when the coach is badmouthing other teams/players?
Maybe you should lose the "sour grapes" attitude and actually watch the games. Carlos Powell is about as much of a flopper as I am.
The real cheap shot was done by Dennis Felton. Calling a team/players "Cheaters" while you're at a basketball program that was just busted for cheating is rather humorous.
OrangeCrush
03-07-2005, 12:42 PM
All my first post dealt with is the fact the Powell flops. Neo, you replied to my post saying that flopping was not illegal and that all of your coaches believed in flopping. I never commented on Felton's words for Powell. I chose to give my opinion on Powell from the games I have seen him played. As I stated in my first post of this thread, Powell is a tremendous player and brings a lot of energy and good game to the basketball court. I wish he would not flop as I see him as a great SEC player that does not need to flop to help his team. Like you said, some coaches believe in it. Also, if the zebras let you get away from it, then why should a player stop doing it?
My s&*t does not stink? My roommates would tend to disagree with ya on that one.
And in the interest of being fair, I have a big problem with the hooking players do when they are trying to get around a defensive player. UT has plenty of players that use the hook to gain an advantage. Some times they get called for it and many other times, they get away with it. I wish the zebras would crack down on this. I do not want my team to have to cheat to win.
And I took you to task for the "flopping will not get my school on probation" I thought that was a nice, but unneeded dig at jaw-ja. I thinking somewhere along the lines of two wrongs do not make a right. Felton was reprimanded for his actions and deservedly so.
BigSpur
03-07-2005, 12:57 PM
You must really hate soccer, thats all they do is flop and roll around on the ground. How bout when a player on a basketball court points for the ball to go his way after knowingly knocking it out of bounds, is he low class, is it not the same thing, trying to persaude a ref to make a call for you. And just to defend Powell, I've seen a lot of USC games and I"ve never noticed that he has a habit of flopping. Actually I've never heard of it being mentioned before Felton said it.
cocky4ever
03-07-2005, 12:59 PM
Oh there's not a SINGLE VOL that doesn't practice the flop?
Bulls*&^!
Yeah, and I suppose Dave Odom also has an AVON case so he can fake swollen shut eyes too huh? :rolleyes:
Flopping is part of the game. It's not against the rules. Elbowing someone in the eye is. How can he (Felton) call Carlos a cheater when he plays by the rules? I can bet you that the NCAA won't put us on probation for flopping. You see, that's not against the rules. If it's legal, it's not cheating.
First of all there isn't a coach in the country who doesn't actively practice and teach the art of the flop. Mine all did, every one. For him to get all preachy on how that is "cheating" shows the mentality of a loser: blame everything you can on somebody else, as to why you didn't win.
I agree with this post. Felton just turned the attention of that game away from the fact that his players were basically hitting our players in the face. Our player gets a black eye AND gets called out for HIS playing styles. Thats messed up. Also heres a question for OrangeCrush: How do you feel about a punter rolling around like a little baby after barely getting tapped on his toe. I understand if you dont agree with it because I dont really agree with some of the recruiting tactics used by UT but if it's not against NCAA rules then more power to the people who know how to use the system to their advantage as long as they're not breaking the rules.
OrangeCrush
03-07-2005, 01:13 PM
I agree with this post. Felton just turned the attention of that game away from the fact that his players were basically hitting our players in the face. Our player gets a black eye AND gets called out for HIS playing styles. Thats messed up. Also heres a question for OrangeCrush: How do you feel about a punter rolling around like a little baby after barely getting tapped on his toe. I understand if you dont agree with it because I dont really agree with some of the recruiting tactics used by UT but if it's not against NCAA rules then more power to the people who know how to use the system to their advantage as long as they're not breaking the rules.
Do I like punters who fake pain? NO
Please give specifice examples of the recruiting tactics UT uses if you are going to have a problem with them.
Do I like punters who fake pain? NO
Please give specifice examples of the recruiting tactics UT uses if you are going to have a problem with them.
Perhaps you are familiar with LB Robert Ayers?????
He is a close friend of mine. At first during his recruiting, he was gung-ho for USC. During Mr. Fulmer's in-house visit, he said that USC was going to get nailed by the NCAA and was facing probation for serious violations. After the in-home, Robert called me and told me what happened, I told him it was a BS recruiting tactic and he should ignore it.
Well, he had to wonder if it was really true or not so to play it safe, he signed with UT.
If Fulmer would have said that USC is being investigated by the NCAA. That's one thing, but to lie to Rob's face and everyone in that room like that. That's uncalled for.
OrangeCrush
03-07-2005, 01:51 PM
I knew you were going to hit me with the Ayers stuff. I started to mention him in my previous post as I knew it would be brought up. Yes, if Fulmer told Ayers that USC was going on probation , then it was a bad and I do not like it. The SEC as a whole has the preception outside of SEC states as being extemely dirty when it comes to recruiting. Coach Spurrier is not labeled this way, so please do not believe I am labeling him. How true is all of the perception? Does anyone else have
Now, back to the basketball theme of this thread. I do not like flopping, elbowing, hooking, walking(as related to basketball), letting low post players bang too much in the pursuit of winning. It seems as the rules change as to who are the zebras and who are the coaches. Some zebras let you play a more physical, while others call everything. It works with coaches as well. Some well-established coaches work the zebras and get calls for their teams while some coaches can not get a call to go their way to save their life.
For the third and last time, Carlos Powell is a tremendous player and I would have loved to have him for 4 years in Knoxville. The flopping that he does is one part of his game that I do not like and have said so. Vlade Divac is the greatest flopper in the NBA and I do not like it. In hockey, I do not like players who take dives trying to get penalities on opposing players.
Coach Felton should have kept his mouth shut and was punished for saying what he said.
Coach Felton should have kept his mouth shut and was punished for saying what he said.
Now we are agreeing on something. :D
I hate soccer very much....
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