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Neo
02-04-2005, 11:54 AM
Hokies rate highly, but Beamer bemoans the one that got away.


By KYLE TUCKER, The Virginian-Pilot
© February 3, 2005

National signing day is usually reserved for college football coaches to celebrate, to pat themselves on the back for another haul of talent.

And make no mistake, Virginia Tech coaches felt like they had plenty to applaud Wednesday. Of the 24 players who signed with the Hokies, it’s tough to find a dud.

In fact, Tech polished off what many would call one of its finest recruiting classes in recent memory — one rated No. 15 in the nation by Rivals.com. The Hokies landed players from six states, including four of the top five and 10 of the top 20 in Virginia.

“There’s probably never been a time when we’ve recruited as well as right now,” Tech coach Frank Beamer said. “We think we really helped our football team today.”

For that, he’s thrilled. But it’s the one that got away that had Beamer fighting mad.

Jonathan Hannah, one of the nation’s top tight ends , signed with South Carolina — Steve Spurrier’s new team — after orally committing to Tech just last week.

His surprising change of heart played a major part in the Hokies’ drop from ninth to 15th in the recruiting rankings.

“That was a big loss,” Rivals.com national analyst Bobby Burton said. “But late changes happen every year.”

On the same day Hannah reneged on Tech, quarterback Ryan Perrilloux — rated by some as the top overall prospect in the country — pulled out of his commitment to Texas and signed with LSU. Later in the day, LSU lost superstar defensive end Jerrell Powe, who ditched the Tigers in favor of Ole Miss.

The list goes on. And Beamer’s disgusted.

“I think we’re working against ourselves when a kid verbally commits somewhere and some people keep trying to recruit him,” Beamer said . “You’re trying to get him to break his word. You’re telling him his word doesn’t mean anything.

“It’s wrong. I don’t think we as football coaches should be going around trying to get players to break their word to other schools.”

With that rant out of the way, Beamer turned his attention to the impressive class that remained. The Hokies signed seven prep All-Americans and filled several of their needs for the future.

Cornerback Victor Harris, the consensus No. 1 recruit in Virginia and a Parade All-American, highlighted a trio of corners for Tech. The Hokies also brought in five defensive linemen, two linebackers and a safety.

“Before the season started, we put down a number that we planed to recruit at each position,” Beamer said, “and we came very close to matching numbers exactly.”

On offense, Tech signed a pair of nationally rated quarterbacks, a star running back, fullback and tight end, along with five linemen, where Tech needed the most help.

Ike Whitaker, from Germantown, Md., is rated the No. 3 dual-threat quarterback in the country by Rivals.com. Oscar Smith’s Greg Boone arrives as the No. 15 quarterback in the nation.

Tech already has three passers on the roster.

“You better be good at quarterback,” Beamer said. “Now we’ve got to go out there and see who’s the guy who plays the most.”

Phoebus tailback Elan Lewis joins the Hokies after rushing for 4,795 yards and 75 touchdowns in his last two seasons. Rivals rates him the No. 12 back in the nation.

“What a running back I think he’s going to be,” Beamer said.

Fullback Kenneth Jefferson (5-foot-10, 230 pounds), from DeMatha Catholic in Maryland, is rated ninth nationally at his position. Ed Wang, from Ashburn, is ranked the No. 14 tight end in the country.

On the line, North Stafford’s Antonio North highlights a five-man class with an average size of 6-5, 293. North is rated the nation’s No. 23 guard.

Tech even got the state’s top punter in Brent Bowden.

“The strength of their group is the overall quality,” Burton said. “It’s not any single player. They’ve got depth and quality. I don’t think they took many second-tier or Plan-B guys.”

Deveon Simmons certainly wasn’t anyone’s Plan B. The Landstown star is rated the No. 8 outside linebacker in the country and will join the Hokies alongside fellow all-state linebacker Demetrius Taylor from Kellam.

Their signing, plus Boone’s, will bring the number of South Hampton Roads’ players on Tech’s roster to just under 20.

“We feel great about how our recruiting has gone in that area,” Beamer said. “You look at our football team and that’s one of the reasons we’ve been to 12 straight bowls.

“Boone’s just a talented guy. Excellent quarterback, excellent athlete. Tough as heck. Deveon, you’re talking about a player. He’ll chase you down and he’ll whack you when he gets there. Taylor? Same deal.”

Minus the day’s one disappointment, the class of 2005 has been declared a success. Pleased as he was, Beamer was still in a skeptical mood.

“I think it makes for great conversation,” Beamer said. “But things change a lot in the next three or four years. They need to get in and see where they fit and how they live up to their billing.” But for now, there’s something to celebrate.

Reach Kyle Tucker at 446-2374 or at kyle.tucker@pilotonline.com
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=81545&ran=171597

Neo
02-04-2005, 11:57 AM
I saw this and had to post it here too. It was by a USC fan from another site.

"I'm sure Beamer's heard the one about the shoe and what happens when it's on the other foot. I doubt he built that strong program at VT by behaving like Mother Theresa."

Neo
02-04-2005, 12:15 PM
Obviously Bunting from UNC is crying too....

“It means something different to every recruit,” said North Carolina coach John Bunting, who had 10 commitments by August but eventually lost two of them. “There was one player that as of last night was committed to one school, told two of us that he was coming to us, then went to somebody else’s school. Wow! All in a night’s work. So you just don’t know.”

Bunting was likely referring to highly rated tight end Jonathan Hannah from Hope Mills. He committed to Virginia Tech a few weeks ago but signed with new South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier.

http://www.news-record.com/sports/local/recruits_020305.htm

OmahaBound
02-04-2005, 01:07 PM
Hopefully they'll still be crying about Hannah three or four years from now as well.

I understand their point, but like the 'mother teresa' comment above stated, it's not like beamer wouldn't have been calling Hannah if the roles were reversed. At least in this instance it really was just a change of heart on Hannah's part and not a lie to VTech all along. It would be nice if there was more honesty and integrity involved in the recruiting process as a whole though, that's for sure. But I highly doubt we'll be seeing that anytime soon.

bucksutton
02-04-2005, 01:30 PM
Hokies rate highly, but Beamer bemoans the one that got away.


By KYLE TUCKER, The Virginian-Pilot
© February 3, 2005

National signing day is usually reserved for college football coaches to celebrate, to pat themselves on the back for another haul of talent.

And make no mistake, Virginia Tech coaches felt like they had plenty to applaud Wednesday. Of the 24 players who signed with the Hokies, it’s tough to find a dud.

In fact, Tech polished off what many would call one of its finest recruiting classes in recent memory — one rated No. 15 in the nation by Rivals.com. The Hokies landed players from six states, including four of the top five and 10 of the top 20 in Virginia.

“There’s probably never been a time when we’ve recruited as well as right now,” Tech coach Frank Beamer said. “We think we really helped our football team today.”

For that, he’s thrilled. But it’s the one that got away that had Beamer fighting mad.

Jonathan Hannah, one of the nation’s top tight ends , signed with South Carolina — Steve Spurrier’s new team — after orally committing to Tech just last week.

His surprising change of heart played a major part in the Hokies’ drop from ninth to 15th in the recruiting rankings.

“That was a big loss,” Rivals.com national analyst Bobby Burton said. “But late changes happen every year.”

On the same day Hannah reneged on Tech, quarterback Ryan Perrilloux — rated by some as the top overall prospect in the country — pulled out of his commitment to Texas and signed with LSU. Later in the day, LSU lost superstar defensive end Jerrell Powe, who ditched the Tigers in favor of Ole Miss.

The list goes on. And Beamer’s disgusted.

“I think we’re working against ourselves when a kid verbally commits somewhere and some people keep trying to recruit him,” Beamer said . “You’re trying to get him to break his word. You’re telling him his word doesn’t mean anything.

“It’s wrong. I don’t think we as football coaches should be going around trying to get players to break their word to other schools.”

With that rant out of the way, Beamer turned his attention to the impressive class that remained. The Hokies signed seven prep All-Americans and filled several of their needs for the future.

Cornerback Victor Harris, the consensus No. 1 recruit in Virginia and a Parade All-American, highlighted a trio of corners for Tech. The Hokies also brought in five defensive linemen, two linebackers and a safety.

“Before the season started, we put down a number that we planed to recruit at each position,” Beamer said, “and we came very close to matching numbers exactly.”

On offense, Tech signed a pair of nationally rated quarterbacks, a star running back, fullback and tight end, along with five linemen, where Tech needed the most help.

Ike Whitaker, from Germantown, Md., is rated the No. 3 dual-threat quarterback in the country by Rivals.com. Oscar Smith’s Greg Boone arrives as the No. 15 quarterback in the nation.

Tech already has three passers on the roster.

“You better be good at quarterback,” Beamer said. “Now we’ve got to go out there and see who’s the guy who plays the most.”

Phoebus tailback Elan Lewis joins the Hokies after rushing for 4,795 yards and 75 touchdowns in his last two seasons. Rivals rates him the No. 12 back in the nation.

“What a running back I think he’s going to be,” Beamer said.

Fullback Kenneth Jefferson (5-foot-10, 230 pounds), from DeMatha Catholic in Maryland, is rated ninth nationally at his position. Ed Wang, from Ashburn, is ranked the No. 14 tight end in the country.

On the line, North Stafford’s Antonio North highlights a five-man class with an average size of 6-5, 293. North is rated the nation’s No. 23 guard.

Tech even got the state’s top punter in Brent Bowden.

“The strength of their group is the overall quality,” Burton said. “It’s not any single player. They’ve got depth and quality. I don’t think they took many second-tier or Plan-B guys.”

Deveon Simmons certainly wasn’t anyone’s Plan B. The Landstown star is rated the No. 8 outside linebacker in the country and will join the Hokies alongside fellow all-state linebacker Demetrius Taylor from Kellam.

Their signing, plus Boone’s, will bring the number of South Hampton Roads’ players on Tech’s roster to just under 20.

“We feel great about how our recruiting has gone in that area,” Beamer said. “You look at our football team and that’s one of the reasons we’ve been to 12 straight bowls.

“Boone’s just a talented guy. Excellent quarterback, excellent athlete. Tough as heck. Deveon, you’re talking about a player. He’ll chase you down and he’ll whack you when he gets there. Taylor? Same deal.”

Minus the day’s one disappointment, the class of 2005 has been declared a success. Pleased as he was, Beamer was still in a skeptical mood.

“I think it makes for great conversation,” Beamer said. “But things change a lot in the next three or four years. They need to get in and see where they fit and how they live up to their billing.” But for now, there’s something to celebrate.

Reach Kyle Tucker at 446-2374 or at kyle.tucker@pilotonline.com
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=81545&ran=171597
Beamer is entitled to his opinion, but what he is complaining about has been going on in college football for many moons. The bottom line is that player followed his heart to South Carolina or he would have signed with VTech.

USAFGAMECOCK
02-04-2005, 02:06 PM
Beamer is entitled to his opinion, but what he is complaining about has been going on in college football for many moons. The bottom line is that player followed his heart to South Carolina or he would have signed with VTech.

I see what he's crying about, but all recruits are fair game until they sign. And Beamer would probably do the same if the roles were reversed just like it was stated in a previous post. Spurrier didn't have as much time to recruit as Beamer did, and Spurrier is obviously bringing a different type game plan to USC, one that recruits may not be aware of due to Holtz being there just a few months ago. I don't think Spurrier was doing anything wrong in this case, he was just letting recruits know another option they have b/c they may not have been aware of it a short time ago. Now with all of that being said, I'm sure it will happen to us sometime.... :rolleyes:

WayzUp
02-04-2005, 03:31 PM
Y'all don't forget Eric Sledge now, y'hear? ;)

Neo
02-04-2005, 03:45 PM
Y'all don't forget Eric Sledge now, y'hear? ;)

Yeah...Did you hear Spurrier whining like a little baby (Beamer/Bunting) when he went to Florida. Nope! He just went to plan "B" and executed it. :D

GTmorris1970
02-04-2005, 03:52 PM
Yeah...Did you hear Spurrier whining like a little baby (Beamer/Bunting) when he went to Florida. Nope! He just went to plan "B" and executed it. :D

At least Spurrier is on people's minds. I am sure he gets a sick kick out of that!! :D

Neo
02-04-2005, 04:04 PM
At least Spurrier is on people's minds. I am sure he gets a sick kick out of that!! :D

Beamer just needs to get off of his soapbox. C'mon now, that's the rules of the game and if you don't like it, get out of the game.

There's no way in hell you can tell me that Beamer doesn't do it either. :rolleyes:

GTmorris1970
02-04-2005, 04:05 PM
Beamer just needs to get off of his soapbox. C'mon now, that's the rules of the game and if you don't like it, get out of the game.

There's no way in hell you can tell me that Beamer doesn't do it either. :rolleyes:

Anybody that doesn't do that probably ain't winnin!! :)

GTmorris1970
02-04-2005, 04:06 PM
Just cause Beamer likes to throw to his TE 30 times a game isn't Spurriers fault!!

JerryBeeds
02-04-2005, 04:44 PM
Maybe Hannah didn't want to endure 10 degree weather in september. Or maybe he didn't want to catch passes from a drug dealer. (Marcus Vick). I think Bunting is mainly pissed about Hardesty getting away.

Neo
02-04-2005, 04:45 PM
Maybe Hannah didn't want to endure 10 degree weather in september. Or maybe he didn't want to catch passes from a drug dealer. (Marcus Vick). I think Bunting is mainly pissed about Hardesty getting away.


Life is a b....! Get used to it.

JerryBeeds
02-04-2005, 04:50 PM
From what I understand Marcus Vick makes Bryan Brownlee and Woody Telfort look like Dudley Do-Right.

Fightin' Gamecock
02-04-2005, 10:45 PM
"Tech even got the state’s top punter in Brent Bowden."
Bowden is the third player from my high school (Westfield High School, Chantilly, Virginia) to go to tech...i just wanted to give a shout out because we've only been open 5 years and we are churning out great players left and right and got a state championship last year...our alumni include, WR Eddie Royal (4 star freshman) who lead the hokies in rec and QB Sean Glennon (4 star freshman) who will be a dark horse to win the starting job (marcus is not a fav of the alumni and boosters)...watch out for RB evan royster for 2006 cuz he is massive and fast, he is most likely going to end up a 5 star prospect. GO WESTFIELD BULLDOGS!!

USC05
02-10-2005, 01:23 PM
Stealing The Tight End From Virgina Tech Is Great But Im Anxious To See
How The 2 New Quarter Backs Are.thats Were We Have Been Lacking Since
Phil Petty Left.

dudeman0501
02-10-2005, 01:26 PM
Welcome to SEC Talk, USC05. I see that you're from Japan. Pretty cool!

Sambacocker
02-15-2005, 09:33 AM
Is it against any rules to talk to kids while they are committed and prior to their signing? Nope. Beamer does it too. This was a pathetic display by Beamer to attack someone's character when they are playing by the rules. Until they actually sign, nothing is official. This is a sign of a coaching staff that doesn't want to recruit up until NSD, rather they'd like to get commitments early and then relax. Hey Beamer, you snooze, you lose.