Spurrier's recruiting seems to be going well....

[Galactus]

I noticed we're now ranked #23 according to rivals.com.

That's pretty good, if you ask me. The ranking seems to be based on sheer numbers of players...rather than any standout superstars. Honestly, I was afraid we wouldn't finish in the top 40.

I'd say if we maintain that ranking, or improve on it, we'd all have to be pleasantly surprised and fairly satisfied. Tough to do much better than that under the circumstances.....

[Neo]

I noticed we're now ranked #23 according to rivals.com.

That's pretty good, if you ask me. The ranking seems to be based on sheer numbers of players...rather than any standout superstars. Honestly, I was afraid we wouldn't finish in the top 40.

I'd say if we maintain that ranking, or improve on it, we'd all have to be pleasantly surprised and fairly satisfied. Tough to do much better than that under the circumstances.....


I can't believe that Florida is NOT in the Top-25 according to Rivals.com :eek:

[Galactus]

Well, you know....THEY had a coaching change, too. I know that they got a good one in Meyer....but still.....these coaching changes really seem to have a negative effect on recruiting.

Also notice we're only one or two notches below LSU and Florida State. Not bad.

Clemson is no. 19.

[2DamCocky]

as we have all learned in the past... these recruiting rankings are fun for Jan and Feb, but I wanna see how they pan out on the field... :p

[Stockcock]

2Dam !!! ---- welcome to AST, Jr. :D

[cocky4ever]

as we have all learned in the past... these recruiting rankings are fun for Jan and Feb, but I wanna see how they pan out on the field... :p
I agree. But since we're all suffering from college football withdrawl at least it gives us something to talk about. I

[WayzUp]

Urban Meyer might be the hot new name in college football coaching but he's yet to face a full season of SEC football and the wherewithall it takes to succeed CONSISTANTLY in this league. I think he'll do well but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Gators manage to just marginally improve from what they were doing under the Zookster.

Steve Spurrier, on the other hand....well, do I have to even say it? His track record speaks for itself.

[GTmorris1970]

I can't believe that Florida is NOT in the Top-25 according to Rivals.com :eek:

If I remember correctly, the other day they were one or two spots ahead of Carolina, then they dropped out!! :)

[Neo]

If I remember correctly, the other day they were one or two spots ahead of Carolina, then they dropped out!! :)

Bingo!!!

They are now ranked 27th if I'm not mistaken. :D

[SamuraiTater]

Wayz, you'll have to admit, your rhetoric is all too familiar.


Urban Meyer might be the hot new name in college football coaching but he's yet to face a full season of SEC football and the wherewithall it takes to succeed CONSISTANTLY in this league. I think he'll do well but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Gators manage to just marginally improve from what they were doing under the Zookster.

Steve Spurrier, on the other hand....well, do I have to even say it? His track record speaks for itself.

Urban Meyer has a ways to go to catch up with the SEC, while Steve Spurrier is held up as being even bigger than the program he inherits. :rolleyes: I don't suppose it occured to you that Meyer may have inherited superior tools to compete in the SEC. Coming to Columbia, it might be Spurrier who is stuck playing catch up with the league.

[WayzUp]

Urban Meyer might just have that gift that makes a great coach but you have to admit, that still really remains to be seen. If you give me that, I'll give you that what he's shown so far is pretty impressive so his chances are good that he does.

Familiar sounding rhetoric or no, it's a fact that no one knows how he's going to fare in his first season playing the likes of Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee and yes, South Carolina rather than New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State, North Carolina and BYU. That's all I'm saying....it's a completely different world, that's all I'm saying. It's a world that Steve Spurrier has completely dominated before and by all signs in this recruiting season, it's a world he's looking to dominate again. May the best team win, bay-bee!! :D

I know I'm biased but I still would take Steve Spurrier in Columbia over Urban Meyer in Florida any day of the week and three times on Saturday, November 12, 2005.

Good luck SamuraiTater...nice job landing Meyer, by the way. I thought for sure he was going to ND and since I hate them too, I'm actually glad he ended up at Florida.

Any Atkins update??

[Neo]

Good luck SamuraiTater...nice job landing Meyer, by the way. I thought for sure he was going to ND and since I hate them too, I'm actually glad he ended up at Florida.

Any Atkins update??

If Mr. Meyer would have gone to ND, he would have been commiting "Career Suicide". :D

[SamuraiTater]

Urban Meyer might just have that gift that makes a great coach but you have to admit, that still really remains to be seen. If you give me that, I'll give you that what he's shown so far is pretty impressive so his chances are good that he does.

Familiar sounding rhetoric or no, it's a fact that no one knows how he's going to fare in his first season playing the likes of Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee and yes, South Carolina rather than New Mexico, Wyoming, Colorado State, North Carolina and BYU. That's all I'm saying....it's a completely different world, that's all I'm saying. It's a world that Steve Spurrier has completely dominated before and by all signs in this recruiting season, it's a world he's looking to dominate again. May the best team win, bay-bee!! :D

I know I'm biased but I still would take Steve Spurrier in Columbia over Urban Meyer in Florida any day of the week and three times on Saturday, November 12, 2005.

Good luck SamuraiTater...nice job landing Meyer, by the way. I thought for sure he was going to ND and since I hate them too, I'm actually glad he ended up at Florida.

Any Atkins update??

I hear ya, Wayz and I'll agree with you that no one really knows until we see their respective teams perform on the field next year. But since it's January and we've got nothing better to do at the moment than speculate..... ;)

To be clear, I think both coaches will be successful over the long haul. The have similar philosophies and proven track records. Granted, Meyer was a big fish in a small pond, but Spurrier is coming off an unsuccessful venture into the deep ocean. I was merely contending that Meyer may have an advantage right off the bat in that Florida's recruiting did not slip much under Ron Zook. Zook continued to recruit the skill players necessary to implement a wide open scheme. On the other hand, Lou Holtz did not leave Spurrier much to work with in the way of quarterbacks and recievers. No doubt Spurrier will get an arsenal of offesive weapons sooner or later. I just think he may have to do more with less this coming season.

[Neo]

but Spurrier is coming off an unsuccessful venture into the deep ocean.

Actually if you look at NFL statistics, Spurrier had a better "rookie" two year stint than;

Bill Walsh
Joe Gibbs
Bill Parcells
Bill Bellichick
Marty Shottenheimer
Dick Vermeil


I cannot help but question your reasoning for your assessment? Given how the Redskins were playing under the mighty Joe Gibbs this year, how can you blame it all on Spurrier? :confused:

Everyone knows that the NCAA and NFL are two totally different beasts. Just because you are successful at the college game doesn't mean that your coaching translates well into the NFL.

[SamuraiTater]

I cannot help but question your reasoning for your assessment? Given how the Redskins were playing under the mighty Joe Gibbs this year, how can you blame it all on Spurrier? :confused:

Everyone knows that the NCAA and NFL are two totally different beasts. Just because you are successful at the college game doesn't mean that your coaching translates well into the NFL.

Touche ! As well, just because one was successful in one NCAA program, how can we make the blind assumption they will duplicate the feat at another institution ? Some names come to mind; Lou Holtz, John Robinson (two stints with Southern Cal), or even Danny Ford for that matter.

I guess the point I'm getting at is that Steve Spurrier does not have some magic potion in his pocket that will make any collegiate team he coaches a national contender. Not saying he cannot make South Carolina a national contender, just that he does not deserve credit for doing so prematurely.

[Neo]

Touche ! As well, just because one was successful in one NCAA program, how can we make the blind assumption they will duplicate the feat at another institution ? Some names come to mind; Lou Holtz, John Robinson (two stints with Southern Cal), or even Danny Ford for that matter.

I guess the point I'm getting at is that Steve Spurrier does not have some magic potion in his pocket that will make any collegiate team he coaches a national contender. Not saying he cannot make South Carolina a national contender, just that he does not deserve credit for doing so prematurely.

How many losing seasons has Spurrier had in his 15 years of coaching college football? :)

[Neo]

or even Danny Ford for that matter.

Mr. Ford's reputation was damaged when the scandals at Clemson were unveiled. After that, his career was pretty much done for. After that fiasco, recruits were a little less likely to follow him to another program because of what happened at CU.

[SamuraiTater]

How many losing seasons has Spurrier had in his 15 years of coaching college football? :)

Again, Spurrier's well earned status as a living legend in no way translates directly to victories. One would think this point needs not be elaborated for USC fans. I understand your excitment and if I were in your shoes, I'd be excited too. Spurrier is a great hire. You could not have landed a better guy. However, I'm waiting for someone to show me logical reasoning that indicates South Carolina will be able to compete with the heavies in the SEC or Clemson in 2005. And as MuthaClucker would say, "just cuz" don't get it. ;)

[GTmorris1970]

Again, Spurrier's well earned status as a living legend in no way translates directly to victories. One would think this point needs not be elaborated for USC fans. I understand your excitment and if I were in your shoes, I'd be excited too. Spurrier is a great hire. You could not have landed a better guy. However, I'm waiting for someone to show me logical reasoning that indicates South Carolina will be able to compete with the heavies in the SEC or Clemson in 2005. And as MuthaClucker would say, "just cuz" don't get it. ;)

1. He has much SEC experience 2. He has a great deal of talent already here that Lou left him, plus some great speed he is recruiting this year 3. No SEC coach, especially from UGA and Tenn., have been able to figure his offense out completely in the past. I would not even put Clemson in that same category as UGA and Tenn. at this point. I see NO reason to believe he will not be successful pretty darn quick. I don't believe he thinks it is gonna take long, either!! :)

[WayzUp]

As I see it, and I admit to probably being a little biased here, all USC really needs to do is find a QB this spring. Whether it be one of the kids SOS has already received committments from or one that's already here doesn't matter; that they can get the job done and learn does.

Our offense will be better which will keep our defense off the field more often which will make them better late in games. Anyone familiar with Carolina football will chuckle before answering if you ask them if our defense has spent too much time on the field these past few years.

We have a good kicker coming in (Ryan Succopp) which makes me stop and think when the last time we've had a good kicker was. Would we have tried to kick a 40something yard field goal against Ole Miss last year if we'd have had a decent kicker? Would we have even been behind at all? We had a need and it's now all-but-filled. I see that all over the place thus far in recruiting...we've had needs and Spurrier looks like he's going right for them.

Everywhere you look, we're going to be an improved football team. We were already 6-5 with a couple "could've, should've" games...so in all seriousness, our excitement could just be that we know our team and what they're capable of RIGHT NOW, not 3-4 years from now. Can Spurrier bring it all together so soon? I don't think he has all that much work to do outside of finding a legitimate starting QB for his system and in that effort, I put all of my faith in him. :)

UF might have showing up Spurrier as motivation come November 12 but USC will have a 48-14 loss at the swamp to put on the bulletin board WITH Spurrier's wanting to show up UF as icing.

Like I said, MAY THE BEST TEAM WIN, BAY-BEE!!! :D

[Drakeman]

Well, Spurrier got his first real taste of bad news as WR Sledge decommits from us & is going to UF while the lineman Hannah from NC announced he's going to VPI. :mad:

[JBryant12]

Lets see how he handles it...

[Neo]

Lets see how he handles it...

Spurrier will handle it fine. He always has a "Plan B".


If you noticed, in the article below, they have stayed in contact with this guy. It sounds like to me that Spurrier was planning on losing one or two.

USC Loses WR, Looks Elsewhere
It was confirmed on several internet reports Sunday night that WR Eric Sledge (6-4 195) of Apopka, FL had dropped his commitment to USC in favor of one to Florida. One prospect the Gamecocks might turn to to fill the void, if they feel the need to do so, is WR Ruben Jackson (5-10 190) of City College of San Francisco. USC has maintained contact with Jackson through assistant coach Steve Spurrier Jr. Jackson said Sunday night Spurrier called him last week and plans to contact him again this week. He said USC wants him to visit February 4th, the weekend after National Signing Day. Jackson said he would consider doing that because he's not sure he'll sign February 2nd. Jackson has visited Oregon State and is scheduled to visit Arizona this coming weekend. This season Jackson had 76 catches for 1493 yards and 15 touchdowns.

[DENTSVILLECOCK]

We will win with those who want to be Gamecocks!!!!

[Neo]

We will win with those who want to be Gamecocks!!!!

Nice sig dude!!! LOL! :D

[Galactus]

Well, from what I read, Sledge was only a 3-star recruit anyway....not a 5-star Parade All American or something......


it doesn't appear Spurrier is making any inroads into any of the nation's elite regardless. He's just bringing in bodies.

I think what we have to hope is that Spurrier's SYSTEM will achieve some immediate results, because he is just not going to have the talent.

It's incredible to me that USC has such a hard time in football and basketball recruiting. Columbia's not a bad spot compared to some of these other places.....but I guess the lack of a winning tradition really kills you.

[Neo]

Well, from what I read, Sledge was only a 3-star recruit anyway....not a 5-star Parade All American or something......


it doesn't appear Spurrier is making any inroads into any of the nation's elite regardless. He's just bringing in bodies.

I think what we have to hope is that Spurrier's SYSTEM will achieve some immediate results, because he is just not going to have the talent.

It's incredible to me that USC has such a hard time in football and basketball recruiting. Columbia's not a bad spot compared to some of these other places.....but I guess the lack of a winning tradition really kills you.

I agree with part of your post. I think when you win, the recruits will come. Assuming that we go 8-3 as I have predicted, we WILL have a great recruiting year in 06. First things first though, we need to close the doors to our state. Don't let the blue-chips leave the state.

[cocky4ever]

Its not like we've had terrible recruiting classes lately. We have a lot more talent at our school than our record shows over the last few years.

[SPUR-rierisBACK]

losing chips is a big problem, and we will lose a few, but I think that "plan b" will ultimately be our saviour.

[Neo]

Its not like we've had terrible recruiting classes lately. We have a lot more talent at our school than our record shows over the last few years.

2005: (26th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2005&School=69
2004: (35th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2004&School=69
2003: (8th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2003&School=69
2002: (11th) http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2002&School=69


Like you said Cocky! The "recruits" don't lie! :D

[Galactus]

Well, we had a couple of good recruiting classes. One a top 10.....another a top 15.

But unfortunately, that's not nearly enough. We are competing against schools in the SEC that have been recruiting like that for 50 years. They have depth of talent we can only dream about right now. That's what our fans have to understand (though I hate to hear it, myself!).

I was afraid when we landed those recruiting classes we wouldn't be able to keep the momentum going, and we couldn't. That's why that year we went 5-7 (when Corey Jenkins was at QB) hurt so badly. We desperately needed to at least make a bowl game that year and show some consistency. But plays like the turnovers vs. Georgia that year (in a 7-13 loss) really hurt. I knew the program would soon take a dive......No consistency, no recruiting.

Now we have to climb back up again. Very tough task.....but if anyone can take such a task on, it's Steve Spurrier. We REAAALLLYYY need to get back to a bowl this season and show some progress.

[Neo]

All I was trying to prove with those recruiting classes is the fact that there is plenty of talent here and now at USC. The key is taking advantage of that talent.:)

[Stockcock]

Well, from what I read, Sledge was only a 3-star recruit anyway....not a 5-star Parade All American or something......


it doesn't appear Spurrier is making any inroads into any of the nation's elite regardless. He's just bringing in bodies.

I think what we have to hope is that Spurrier's SYSTEM will achieve some immediate results, because he is just not going to have the talent.

It's incredible to me that USC has such a hard time in football and basketball recruiting. Columbia's not a bad spot compared to some of these other places.....but I guess the lack of a winning tradition really kills you.

There are still quite a few uncommitted 3 and 4 star players out there that still show some interest in USC.

Slick Shelly -- WR
Julius McClellan -- WR
Rueben Jackson -- WR
Lavarus Dollar -- LB
Taalib Tucker -- LB
Quinton Brown -- OL
Charles Gamble -- LB
Mike Davis -- RB
Hivera Green -- DE
Chris Todd -- QB

In addition, I have heard that Tavares Kearney is a soft commit to UGA and Avery Atkins is a soft commit to Florida. Those are both 5 star players.

We can still end up with a top 20 class.

[Neo]

Slick Shelly -- WR --Personal Issues
Julius McClellan -- WR -- Academics
Rueben Jackson -- WR
Lavarus Dollar -- LB
Taalib Tucker -- LB
Quinton Brown -- OL
Charles Gamble -- LB
Mike Davis -- RB -- Rumored to commit this week to USC. Cannot confirm though.
Hivera Green -- DE
Chris Todd -- QB

As for Atkins, he's now a soft verbal to Florida State.

[SamuraiTater]

I've never put much stock into anyone's interpretation of recruiting rankings. By any standard, you get a higher ranking if you collect a greater number of stars. Bigger classes potentially mean more stars, but does that accurately reflect the value of a given class ??? Class rankings also fail to compensate for non-qualifiers, not to mention players that fall by the way-side for various reasons (transfers, off-field issues, career ending injuries, etc.).

I think it simply comes down to addressing your teams immediate needs and whether you can get quality players to fill those voids. .....Now for the part you'll all want to crucify me for bringing to the forefront: Lou Holtz did not systematically identify and address the needs of his team. My personal opinion is that he had no offensive vision and therefore did not prioritize adequately. He went about chasing atheletic studs with little regard for what he intended to do with them. :confused: :confused:

As it stands, Steve Spurrier is most pressed for a quality, passing quarterback and a corps of recievers. This is likely the most vital ingredient needed for his style of offense. You're also thin at offensive line depth.

Kids today don't remember Steve Spurrier quite as well as all of us do. We know what he is capable of, but 3 years ago is a long time to them. They hardly remember his reputation for being a win at all cost, go for the jugular sort of football coach. :( He'll have to impress a new generation all over again. Until he does so, he'll take what he can get and try to do his thing.

Just the way I see it, don't shoot me. ;)

[Neo]

I think it simply comes down to addressing your teams immediate needs and whether you can get quality players to fill those voids. .....Now for the part you'll all want to crucify me for bringing to the forefront: Lou Holtz did not systematically identify and address the needs of his team. My personal opinion is that he had no offensive vision and therefore did not prioritize adequately. He went about chasing atheletic studs with little regard for what he intended to do with them. :confused: :confused:

I'm not going to crucify you for that comment on Coach Holtz. Part of it is true. He did recruit talent and then not use that talent effectively or properly.




As it stands, Steve Spurrier is most pressed for a quality, passing quarterback and a corps of recievers. This is likely the most vital ingredient needed for his style of offense. You're also thin at offensive line depth.



We have 15 returning OL's not including the thieves. Three (3) of them are starters. That tells me that we are not shallow in the OL dept. :D

[SamuraiTater]

Delo, how did I know you'd still be up at this hour ? Don't you ever sleep ? ;)

I was looking at an old 2004 pre-season mag today and I noted they had two different offensive linemen listed twice in your two-deep. If you have 15 returning, you must have red-shirted an awfull lot last year.

[Neo]

Delo, how did I know you'd still be up at this hour ? Don't you ever sleep ? ;)

I was looking at an old 2004 pre-season mag today and I noted they had two different offensive linemen listed twice in your two-deep. If you have 15 returning, you must have red-shirted an awfull lot last year.

We redshirted 7 OL's last year if I'm not mistaken.

BTW: Are you a Clemson fan? If so, we do have Clemson Avatar's if you want one. :D

[Neo]

I hardly ever sleep! :)

[SamuraiTater]

...BTW: Are you a Clemson fan? If so, we do have Clemson Avatar's if you want one. :D

I'm a sword-wielding, starchy garden vegetable with a top-knot hair-doo, adhering to the Bushido code of conduct. ;)

Seriously, thanks for the info. I'll get around to editing my preferences one of these days. Probably when I find an appropriate military avatar. :cool:

[Neo]

I'm a sword-wielding, starchy garden vegetable with a top-knot hair-doo, adhering to the Bushido code of conduct. ;)

Seriously, thanks for the info. I'l get around to editing my preferences one of these days. Probably when I find an appropriate military avatar. :cool:

No problemo.

It's like I've said many times. We welcome anyone and everyone. We already have a few Clemson, Minnesota, Ohio State and Oregon fans here. It's kinda nice to have different people that cheer different teams ya know? :D

[SamuraiTater]

Hey, I'm just here to provide contrast. Without a few of us around, ya'll might spontaneously start one of those,

GA------------------------------------ME

CO-----------------------------------CKS threads. ;)

As the hip-hop generation would say, "I'm just keepin' it real." ;)

[Neo]

Hey, I'm just here to provide contrast. Without a few of us around, ya'll might spontaneously start one of those,

GA------------------------------------ME

CO-----------------------------------CKS threads. ;)

As the hip-hop generation would say, "I'm just keepin' it real." ;)

LOL!

I hear ya! :D

[Neo]

<~~~ Un-biased USC fan

[cocky4ever]

Hey, I'm just here to provide contrast. Without a few of us around, ya'll might spontaneously start one of those,

GA------------------------------------ME

CO-----------------------------------CKS threads. ;)

As the hip-hop generation would say, "I'm just keepin' it real." ;)
Glad to have a clemson fan on here who can hold an inteligent conversation in a post. Most of my family are clemson fans, but after going to the State's forum I was starting to think that most were un-intelligent haters. Now I see that the State's forum isnt a place to judge any teams fans. For the most part that place is horrible. Welcome, and yes, I will even refer to your team as clemson and not chumpson when I post to you. LOL

[WayzUp]

Delo, how did I know you'd still be up at this hour ? Don't you ever sleep ? ;)

I was looking at an old 2004 pre-season mag today and I noted they had two different offensive linemen listed twice in your two-deep. If you have 15 returning, you must have red-shirted an awfull lot last year.
Didn't you know? Delo is Santa Claus...y'know the song! He knows when you are sleeping, he knows when you're awake....

Every year after Christmas, he fills up his time with giving us USC recruiting updates and we all know Santa doesn't need to sleep. ;)

[IBC2]

I'm a sword-wielding, starchy garden vegetable with a top-knot hair-doo, adhering to the Bushido code of conduct. ;)

Seriously, thanks for the info. I'll get around to editing my preferences one of these days. Probably when I find an appropriate military avatar. :cool:

Sammi, of the rusty sword and tangled top knot :o wazzzzzzzz up?

Glad to have you my friend.

The thing being commented on about USC having talent but not always using it. well its partly true.
But as I mentioned last yr(another board :cool: ) I talked to a talk show guy in Tn and he and the fans who called later all agreed, USC is recruiting well, the problem is most of the top SEC teams recruit not well, but tremendously well. We have some starting talent, they have 2 deep talent, 3 deep at critical positions like Def tackles. Do we have 3 SEC starters on squad in first 3 deep roster...................Nope :(
Tn, LSU, UGA, FLA. and soon Ala all end up with higher ranked class'es than we will.
So, we get talent yeah, but the rest of conf ain't sitting waiting till we catch up.
That is why we find it so tuff to move up in SEC (IMHO) ;)

[Galactus]

If I haven't said it already.....welcome, Samurai!!

Yeah...IBC, Delorean.......Spurrier will just have to do more with less to start with. That's the trick, of course. So far, we've yet to find anyone who could quite do it.

Also, I have to agree with Samurai that kids may not remember Spurrier quite as clearly as we do!

Just this week I was reminded of how different my perspective is from someone even in their 20s! When Johnny Carson passed on, it was amazing the number of people at my office who hadn't a clue as to what the fuss was about! Kinda scary, really.....

Anyway......it's simple: If you want recruiting to improve, then you've got to win first. Somehow, someway....you have to find ways to win with less talent to attract better talent. Hopefully, Spurrier's system will come through for us.

[Chikin Scratch]

Also, I have to agree with Samurai that kids may not remember Spurrier quite as clearly as we do!

Just this week I was reminded of how different my perspective is from someone even in their 20s! When Johnny Carson passed on, it was amazing the number of people at my office who hadn't a clue as to what the fuss was about! Kinda scary, really.....
Do you realize the kids being recruited were born in 1987?! When SS won the NC at UF, they were 9 years old! :eek:

[GRASSHOPPER]

If I haven't said it already.....welcome, Samurai!!

Yeah...IBC, Delorean.......Spurrier will just have to do more with less to start with. That's the trick, of course. So far, we've yet to find anyone who could quite do it.

Also, I have to agree with Samurai that kids may not remember Spurrier quite as clearly as we do!

Just this week I was reminded of how different my perspective is from someone even in their 20s! When Johnny Carson passed on, it was amazing the number of people at my office who hadn't a clue as to what the fuss was about! Kinda scary, really.....

Anyway......it's simple: If you want recruiting to improve, then you've got to win first. Somehow, someway....you have to find ways to win with less talent to attract better talent. Hopefully, Spurrier's system will come through for us.SOMETIMES AS A FAN THIS TYPE OF THOUGHT PROCESSS DOS'NT ENTER INTO THE EQUATION. WE TEND TO THINK BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY KNOW.

[Galactus]

Do you realize the kids being recruited were born in 1987?! When SS won the NC at UF, they were 9 years old! :eek:

Yep......Weird, isn't it?

Think back....remember when you were younger.....say.....about 10 or 12 years old....and how long 3 o 4 years seemed to you? Nowadays, 10 or 15 years seems like nothing to me!! Like I say....scary....

[SamuraiTater]

I have a 20 year old son from a previous marriage. He was born and raised in Columbia and since he was not raised by me, he was misguided in his college allegiances. ;) I mention notable names who've played in the Lou Holtz era and he doesn't recognize them. :confused:

[Chikin Scratch]

I mention notable names who've played in the Lou Holtz era and he doesn't recognize them. :confused:
I know the feeling...if people mention Derrick Watson, I ask, "Who??" :confused:
Just kidding...I know what you mean,
P.S. Maybe your son will get you straigtened out one day and you'll be posting as SamuraiCock. :D

[SamuraiTater]

I know the feeling...if people mention Derrick Watson, I ask, "Who??" :confused:
Just kidding...I know what you mean,
P.S. Maybe your son will get you straigtened out one day and you'll be posting as SamuraiCock. :D

Hey, I was born and raised in this town too. As a kid I spent many a Saturday in, get this....... "Carolina Stadium" :eek: (Search it on the net. It doesn't look the same without the east side upper deck.) #11 was always my favorite number and playing basketball in the backyard, I used to cross myself before each free throw ( in spite of my protestant upbringing ), in an effort to emulate a certain Gamecock hoopster. :cool: In the spring, if Bobby Richardson's daughter wasn't there at The Roost, I usually got to be the batboy. I always wore Jeff Grantz's or Henry Pankovitz's earless batting helmet out to the plate area.

.......Then I saw that fateful Gator Bowl game with Ohio State, Steve Fuller's pass to Jerry Butler and several more defining moments of Clemson football. I began to notice the absolute contempt people in Columbia have for Clemson and to be honest, interpreted it then (as now) as mostly sour grapes. Choices were made back then and I have never regreted them. :D

[DENTSVILLECOCK]

P.S. Maybe your son will get you straigtened out one day and you'll be posting as SamuraiCock. :D

He will start wearing Air Force garb before that will ever happen. ;)

[Chikin Scratch]

He will start wearing Air Force garb before that will ever happen. ;)
What's so bad about the Air Force...???

[SPURED]

i will be 19 in march. and all i know about spurrier is that he doesnt lose much and he loves to throw the ball. something i havnt seen carolina do in a while. so i can see kinda why these kids wouldnt come to carolina this year. but if spurrier wins we will see a very good recruiting class next off season

[Neo]

i will be 19 in march. and all i know about spurrier is that he doesnt lose much and he loves to throw the ball. something i havnt seen carolina do in a while. so i can see kinda why these kids wouldnt come to carolina this year. but if spurrier wins we will see a very good recruiting class next off season

Winning = Blue Chip recruits :D

[DENTSVILLECOCK]

What's so bad about the Air Force...???

Not a thing from my house. It was part of my family for 43 years.

But Samuri is a water boy. A boat person. One of dem swimmers. :D

[USAFGAMECOCK]

What's so bad about the Air Force...???


Yeah what's so bad about the Air Force???? :D

[Chikin Scratch]

Not a thing from my house. It was part of my family for 43 years.

But Samuri is a water boy. A boat person. One of dem swimmers. :D
Did not know that about Samurai. I was an AMMO Troop in the Air Force for 6 years so I was just curious...I figured he must have been military when you wrote that. BUT, wearing Air Force Blue is MUCH BETTER than those Navy Bell-Bottoms!!
:D

[DENTSVILLECOCK]

BUT, wearing Air Force Blue is MUCH BETTER than those Navy Bell-Bottoms!!
:D

Roger that!!!


Oh Samurai.............. :D

[USAFGAMECOCK]

Did not know that about Samurai. I was an AMMO Troop in the Air Force for 6 years so I was just curious...I figured he must have been military when you wrote that. BUT, wearing Air Force Blue is MUCH BETTER than those Navy Bell-Bottoms!!
:D

:D Just as I stand up for the USAF, I'll have to say that there's nothing wrong with the USN either....just different roles. But I do agree with the bell bottom statement however I very seldom see any Navy folk actually wear those...

[Chikin Scratch]

:D Just as I stand up for the USAF, I'll have to say that there's nothing wrong with the USN either....just different roles. But I do agree with the bell bottom statement however I very seldom see any Navy folk actually wear those...
Couldn't agree with you more. Are you still in the service?

I love picking at other branches of the service but the truth is I've had many good friends in all of them and have been stationed at bases where members of other services were assigned. No doubt that those were the best 6 years of my life. All the services have different jobs but they are ALL vital.

I firmly believe it can never be said enough: THANK YOU to all of you (Active/Reserve/Guard) for your service to this great country!!! You are constantly in my family's thoughts and prayers!

[USAFGAMECOCK]

Couldn't agree with you more. Are you still in the service?

I love picking at other branches of the service but the truth is I've had many good friends in all of them and have been stationed at bases where members of other services were assigned. No doubt that those were the best 6 years of my life. All the services have different jobs but they are ALL vital.

I firmly believe it can never be said enough: THANK YOU to all of you (Active/Reserve/Guard) for your service to this great country!!! You are constantly in my family's thoughts and prayers!


Yeah man I'm still in...I'm a logistics officer at Robins AFB Georgia. Almost two years in so far...so I'm still a young buck! ;) Those guys and gals over there (and here too) are doing a hell of a job, I just wish the media would show some of the good things they are actually doing....but you know how that goes. Anyway, sorry to get off of the thread topic but thanks for your generous comments. :D

[SamuraiTater]

What's so bad about the Air Force, you ask ? Not a thing. Matter of fact, I considered going that route at one time. But then, ......I decided I didn't want to be mistaken for a Greyhound bus driver. :p :p :p

Seriously, my father is retired ANG and my older brother is still active as an Air Force LTCOL. As a kid, I loved gawking at the old F-102's in the hangar at McEntire. Sleek and mean with sharp angles all over and that old delta wing design. :cool: As a real little kid, walking in front of it's looooong pitot - static probe used to intimidate me. :eek: :o

I've always been the blacksheep of the family, what can I say ? ;) Turned my back on the Gamecocks in favor of football tradition at an early age. Opted for adventure instead of better base golf courses...... ;)

I'm with you on the bell bottom issue, though. The navy got rid of those back around 1999, all except for the service dress blue uniform. The term dungaree does not even exist anymore. They are "utility" uniforms which more closely resemble the coast guard's underway working attire. The service dress blue is still bell bottom, but then again the whole trouser leg is very baggy.

Navy hangs onto tradition more than the other services. Ancient traditon and terminology is engrained into the everyday routine. Sometimes you think about the way we do things and it seems sort of cool that history never really got relegated to the past. The use of a bosun's pipe, marking time with a brass bell, making 12 o'clock reports to the Captain, Captains Mast (Article 15 NJP) are just a few that come to mind. ......There are so many obscure traditions you continue without even conscious thought. One I almost always observed was to "show a leg". This practice dates back to when mariners brought their wives along for company. In the morning, sailors were rousted from their slumber but women would not be disturbed. To display a non-hairy, non-masculine lower leg from the covers would prevent unwanted harrassment. Today the tradition is used to let shipmates know you heard reville and you'll drag your own carcass out of your rack in a few moments.

[drkralc]

Did not know that about Samurai. I was an AMMO Troop in the Air Force for 6 years so I was just curious...I figured he must have been military when you wrote that. BUT, wearing Air Force Blue is MUCH BETTER than those Navy Bell-Bottoms!!
:D
The Navy doesn't wear bell-bottoms (Dungarees) anymore. What's the problem with the Navy?

[Chikin Scratch]

The Navy doesn't wear bell-bottoms (Dungarees) anymore. What's the problem with the Navy?
Nothing...read my last post (#64).

[bucksutton]

Urban Meyer might be the hot new name in college football coaching but he's yet to face a full season of SEC football and the wherewithall it takes to succeed CONSISTANTLY in this league. I think he'll do well but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Gators manage to just marginally improve from what they were doing under the Zookster.

Steve Spurrier, on the other hand....well, do I have to even say it? His track record speaks for itself.

If you go back and look over the last 3 years, Zook was really good at recruiting. So if this Meyer, can coach, better watch Florida this year. They could come out :eek: swinging!

[IBC2]

Sami, well he was always known as what you call your "strange little guy down on the corner"

[GTmorris1970]

If you go back and look over the last 3 years, Zook was really good at recruiting. So if this Meyer, can coach, better watch Florida this year. They could come out :eek: swinging!

I think Florida is going to be very good this year. If Carolina starts to surprise people, that could be a slugfest!! :p

[USAFGAMECOCK]

What's so bad about the Air Force, you ask ? Not a thing. Matter of fact, I considered going that route at one time. But then, ......I decided I didn't want to be mistaken for a Greyhound bus driver. :p :p :p

Seriously, my father is retired ANG and my older brother is still active as an Air Force LTCOL. As a kid, I loved gawking at the old F-102's in the hangar at McEntire. Sleek and mean with sharp angles all over and that old delta wing design. :cool: As a real little kid, walking in front of it's looooong pitot - static probe used to intimidate me. :eek: :o

I've always been the blacksheep of the family, what can I say ? ;) Turned my back on the Gamecocks in favor of football tradition at an early age. Opted for adventure instead of better base golf courses...... ;)

I'm with you on the bell bottom issue, though. The navy got rid of those back around 1999, all except for the service dress blue uniform. The term dungaree does not even exist anymore. They are "utility" uniforms which more closely resemble the coast guard's underway working attire. The service dress blue is still bell bottom, but then again the whole trouser leg is very baggy.

Navy hangs onto tradition more than the other services. Ancient traditon and terminology is engrained into the everyday routine. Sometimes you think about the way we do things and it seems sort of cool that history never really got relegated to the past. The use of a bosun's pipe, marking time with a brass bell, making 12 o'clock reports to the Captain, Captains Mast (Article 15 NJP) are just a few that come to mind. ......There are so many obscure traditions you continue without even conscious thought. One I almost always observed was to "show a leg". This practice dates back to when mariners brought their wives along for company. In the morning, sailors were rousted from their slumber but women would not be disturbed. To display a non-hairy, non-masculine lower leg from the covers would prevent unwanted harrassment. Today the tradition is used to let shipmates know you heard reville and you'll drag your own carcass out of your rack in a few moments.

Like I said man, not a thing wrong with the Navy....got some good friends that joined....upmost respect for them and all of the other branches. Greyhound bus driver huh?? That's funny, I haven't heard that one yet! I'm surprised my friends in the USN never said that to me, we call each other stuff all the time, but it's just all in fun, nothing serious. Thanks for your service.

[SamuraiTater]

Like I said man, not a thing wrong with the Navy....got some good friends that joined....upmost respect for them and all of the other branches. Greyhound bus driver huh?? That's funny, I haven't heard that one yet! I'm surprised my friends in the USN never said that to me, we call each other stuff all the time, but it's just all in fun, nothing serious. Thanks for your service.

I used to mess with my dad all the time, telling him that all they (the USAF) ever did was train, train, train. :o While we (the USN) on the other hand, took the show on the road. We'd go directly to the hottest spots of the world and flex our red, white and blue muscles. :cool: I was an aircraft electrician in the F-14 community at the time. (Where's a waaay cool smiley when you need one ? ;) )

In the first gulf war, more than any other aircraft you saw on the news were the F-16's with "SC" on the tails. When it was all said and done, he made sure to point out that the 369th TFW at McEntire had flown more sorties and delivered more ordnance than any other unit (Navy or Air Force, active, reserve or otherwise) participating in the campaign. :cool:

Thank you as well, USAFGAMECOCK. I hope you enjoy your time in the military.

[larryt4111]

Evreything will be fine, SOS knowg his job, and is doing it well.