McGee's retirement: A good or bad thing?

[Galactus]

I can see positives and negatives.

He made some impressive hires.....and I'll never forget him for giving us the Colonial Center....a building I really love.

However, I felt he should've hired Cremins back and forgotten the past.....and I also feel McGee has put so much time and effort into making the minor, non-revenue sports competitive (baseball, track, tennis, etc.).....but overall, the two biggies, football and basketball, haven't gotten a whole lot better. Of course, winning in those sports is a tougher challenge, too.

Also think Williams-Brice needs major renovations.

I hope under the next AD's watch those two sports will improve. Because, as much as many Gamecock fans don't wanna hear this, if you ain't winning in either football or men's basketball, you're not gonna get much respect nationally......or in the SEC.

Statistics don't lie. Those are the two sports that make the most money....because those are the two sports fans care most about across the country. We've got to do better in both, IMO.

Is McGee our best AD ever? Tough question.

[GRASSHOPPER]

I Look At It Like Lou Holtz--- He Did Alot Of Great Things- What Else Can He Do. His Legacy Is Sealed Lets Get New Blood And Fresh Ideas. Lets Build The South Endzone And Lets Forget Bobby Cremmins. I Respect Mcgee For Not Trying To Rehire Him At A Later Date- Sorry Gal. You Are Stuck W/ Odum For A While!

[SPURED]

i just want to know who is going to be taken over his position. and what SS thinks about this because from what i gathered from SS press conference when he was hired he was very excited about working with mcgee. and i hope the new guy will be as good as mcgee was. the football and basketball teams are on the right track just need to get over that hump

[Neo]

i just want to know who is going to be taken over his position. and what SS thinks about this because from what i gathered from SS press conference when he was hired he was very excited about working with mcgee. and i hope the new guy will be as good as mcgee was. the football and basketball teams are on the right track just need to get over that hump

Don't laugh...


Since September when I first reported that he was stepping down, I kept hearing the name "Dan Reeves." The former coach of the Denver Broncos and Atlanta Falcons. :D

[GRASSHOPPER]

Don't laugh...


Since September when I first reported that he was stepping down, I kept hearing the name "Dan Reeves." The former coach of the Denver Broncos and Atlanta Falcons. :DFIRST OF ALL I AM SURE SOS KNEW OF THIS WHEN HE WAS HIRED AND ISNT DAN A LITTLE OLD TO START THIS POSITION. DON'T GET ME WRONG I THINK HE WOULD BE GOOD BUT HOW LONG CAN HE LAST?

[Neo]

FIRST OF ALL I AM SURE SOS KNEW OF THIS WHEN HE WAS HIRED AND ISNT DAN A LITTLE OLD TO START THIS POSITION. DON'T GET ME WRONG I THINK HE WOULD BE GOOD BUT HOW LONG CAN HE LAST?

He's in his 50's, but he is a USC allumni, has a distinguished NFL career and could bring quite a bit to the USC table. :D

[GRASSHOPPER]

He's in his 50's, but he is a USC allumni, has a distinguished NFL career and could bring quite a bit to the USC table. :DI THOUGHT HE WAS OLDER THEN THAT. 50'S IS COOL MOST OF THESE GUYS HAVE ABOUT A TEN YEAR TENURE ANYWAY!

[SPURED]

He's in his 50's, but he is a USC allumni, has a distinguished NFL career and could bring quite a bit to the USC table. :D
well lets see if you are right again about this one! just hope he does a good job :D

[Neo]

well lets see if you are right again about this one! just hope he does a good job :D


The title of the thread is "Lou Holtz's last year at USC? No Joke!"

Just go up and click search and enter in the title above. :D

PS: Notice the date on the posts....

[Neo]

I THOUGHT HE WAS OLDER THEN THAT. 50'S IS COOL MOST OF THESE GUYS HAVE ABOUT A TEN YEAR TENURE ANYWAY!

Correction....

He is 61 this year. Dan Reeves was born on 1/19/1944. :D

[IBC2]

Don't thing Reeves will be it, I would love to see Brad Edwards get the job however. He has paid his dues. He is also alum, and he has experiance here.

Reeves really has nothing that would indicate he would be a good AD. Coaching NFL ain't exactly the same

[Neo]

Don't thing Reeves will be it, I would love to see Brad Edwards get the job however. He has paid his dues. He is also alum, and he has experiance here.

Reeves really has nothing that would indicate he would be a good AD. Coaching NFL ain't exactly the same

He is one of the winningest coaches in the history of the game.
He is in USC's Hall of Fame.
He is a household name. By that, he could increase donations, put the school on a higher level. He also coached one of the greatest QB's to play the game.

Coaching in the NFL is like a business. Judging by Reeves' record, he was very successful at it. :D

How is Brad Edwards going to be a better AD than Reeves? Specifics..... :confused:

You say Edwards is a allumni, well so is Reeves. Going by your standards, how did Dr. McGee fit in as AD? :confused:

[Neo]

Dr. McGee's Statement:

Since January 1993, I have approached each day of my responsibilities as Carolina's athletics director with a steadfast commitment to pursue the best for Gamecock Athletics.
That reality was foremost in my mind last spring, as my wife Ginger and I approached 2004, my 11th year as Carolina's athletics director. At that time, Ginger and I prayerfully considered whether we were prepared to sustain

that level of activity and commitment throughout 2005. Our considerations were influenced by our desire to spend more time with our family, particularly our 13 grandchildren, who are now located across various parts of the country.

In addition, in recent years we have delayed fulfilling our desire to have more time in pursuit of our other interests.

Based upon those factors, last May, Ginger and I concluded that the 2004-05 athletics seasons would be our last at Carolina. Consequently, in May of 2004, I advised Dr. Sorensen of my decision to retire as Carolina's athletics director, effective June 30, 2005. We have each delayed until now announcement of this decision in order to continue to maintain stability and permit me to focus on a head football coaching search if that became necessary.

For the next five months, I will be available to Dr. Sorensen, as he might like, as he seeks Carolina's next athletics director. In addition, I will continue to serve and support our programs' pursuit of conference and nationalchampionships. I have also been blessed to serve with a group of outstanding coaches, administrators and support staff, whose experience has taught them how to value the needs and opportunities of student-athletes within the context of a multi-million dollar operation. They are truly among the best in our profession. They have a very strong loyalty to USC.

To that end, it is my hope that the university will give every consideration to fill my position from within.

Importantly, between now and June 30, I will seek the appropriate opportunities to thank the student-athletes; coaches; administrative staff; faculty and staff; board members; legislators; and other public servants who have been an important part of the USC athletics program's successes of the past 12 years and who have so greatly enriched life for Ginger and me. Today, however, and each day thereafter for the duration of my tenure as Carolina's athletics director, I will offer continuing and sincere gratitude to the Gamecock Club leadership and the thousands of Gamecock Club members and Gamecock faithful who, since January 1993, have so devotedly and generously supported Carolina's athletics program and its athletics department.

My vision when I arrived from Southern California to THE USC, was to build a rock-solid foundation within the athletics program that would forever ensure consistent championship athletic performance, academic excellence and financial responsibility. With the help of our outstanding staff, coaches, student-athletes and community support, I think we have achieved our goal of laying and solidifying this permanent foundation.

My blood will always run garnet and black and the McGee family will always be tried and true Gamecocks.

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/sports/colleges/university_of_south_carolina/10673483.htm

[SPURED]

wow that is a good article. glad he was a part of THE USC!

[Stockcock]

61 - thats still not bad. How is his health? Didn't he have a heartattack awhile back. Seems like he used to do commercials for Zocor. If he could give us 5 years that would be great. I like the idea of having a successful USC alum heading up the AD. He would give us instant credibility.

I wonder how much he knows about NCAA regs and stuff? Is he up on all that stuff and does he really need to be?

[Drakeman]

Don't thing Reeves will be it, I would love to see Brad Edwards get the job however. He has paid his dues. He is also alum, and he has experiance here.


Agree with this. Brad came back to USC after his stint in the NFL & has been a big part of the Ath Dept for several years. IMO it would make for a smooth transition, & Edwards could follow through on some of the plans McGee has implemented while bringing some of his own ideas to the table. He's also 100% Gamecock through & through.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that Edwards is being groomed. We'll see.

[Drakeman]

Jeff Barber's another possibility too.

[Beebop]

The word in the clubhouse is that Brad Edwards is the frontrunner.....

[raptorcox]

All I heard on the local radio was Brad Edwards.... but Dan Reeves is an interesting possiblity, some also said Ray Tanner... so who knows???

[Neo]

All I heard on the local radio was Brad Edwards.... but Dan Reeves is an interesting possiblity, some also said Ray Tanner... so who knows???

Tanner needs to stay in the dugout. :D

[Stockcock]

Is Brad Edwards the #2 guy in the AD office now? If so, he must be the heir apparent.

[Le Coq Sportif]

Agree with this. Brad came back to USC after his stint in the NFL & has been a big part of the Ath Dept for several years. IMO it would make for a smooth transition, & Edwards could follow through on some of the plans McGee has implemented while bringing some of his own ideas to the table. He's also 100% Gamecock through & through.

I've been of the opinion for some time now that Edwards is being groomed. We'll see.

Ditto. I'd be a little disappointed if it wasn't Edwards, quite honestly.

This Reeves talk seems more than a little far fetched.

As for experience, Brad has a few years as an assistant AD. Reeves has none. Being an NFL coach for 20+ years, while admirable, doesn't qualify one for an AD job these days.

[IBC2]

He is one of the winningest coaches in the history of the game.
He is in USC's Hall of Fame.
He is a household name. By that, he could increase donations, put the school on a higher level. He also coached one of the greatest QB's to play the game.

Coaching in the NFL is like a business. Judging by Reeves' record, he was very successful at it. :D

How is Brad Edwards going to be a better AD than Reeves? Specifics..... :confused:

You say Edwards is a allumni, well so is Reeves. Going by your standards, how did Dr. McGee fit in as AD? :confused:

DeL.....I didn't mean anything negative towards Reeves, its just that as an AD he has no experiance. The NFL is not exactly the same thing.

Brad Edwards has been asst AD.
Being an alum is not my standard, I only mentioned that because you stated Reeves was. I don't think you need to be alum, it would just be easier sell to fans if one were. A good AD is a good AD. Except for someone from Klempzon I don't care where they are from.

And if Reeves gets the job I will be just as happy as I would if Brad gets it.
I just want one who can fill McGees shoes.

Like him or hate him, McGee did a lot for USC and he always put USC FIRST.
Anything else be da_ _ _ _d

10-4:cool:

About the only thing I think McGee did not quite make the grade in would be our overall facilities. BBall arena is nice but we need to do major upgrade on football facilities. In that area we are middle of pack in SEC.
Track facility needs to be upgraded where Frye can host SEC events NCAA events. Track may be "minor" sport but Frye is best there is and we need to keep him. Baseball fac. Well everyone knows that situation and what needs to hurry up and be done
Theres more to be done, thats just highlights

[IBC2]

Tanner needs to stay in the dugout. :D

Darn Skippy.........just play ball coach. Dats yo callin

[Galactus]

DeLorean....I kinda hope you are right about Reeves. I think it'd be great to bring him back to USC.

However.....I wouldn't be unhappy with Edwards, by any means. Edwards is my age and I actually remember sitting in English class at USC with him. He's a good guy and would be great for USC as well.

Frankly, it sounds like a win-win to me. Don't think we'd do too badly with either one, really.

[Neo]

DeLorean....I kinda hope you are right about Reeves. I think it'd be great to bring him back to USC.

However.....I wouldn't be unhappy with Edwards, by any means. Edwards is my age and I actually remember sitting in English class at USC with him. He's a good guy and would be great for USC as well.

Frankly, it sounds like a win-win to me. Don't think we'd do too badly with either one, really.

So you understand what I'm saying huh Gal? :D

Dan Reeves brings instant credibility and national exposure. Who outside of USC knows Brad Edwards that well? Reeves on the other hand is a "household" name.

[Galactus]

Well, I thought we should've hired him in 1975 instead of Jim Carlen.

But that's me.

[GRASSHOPPER]

Yea I Heard The Ray Tanner Senario And Though Ray Would Be A Good Choice, Him Leaving The Dugout When Carolina Is So Close To A Nc Would Drive Me Nuts. Brad Edwards Makes A Better Choice In My Opinion. Ray Can Coach Another 15 Years And Win Us At Least 5nc's. I Hope Its Not A Situation That If Ray Does'nt Get It It Will Hurt His Relationship W/ The University! I Would Rather See Him Take The Job Than Leave!

[Le Coq Sportif]

So you understand what I'm saying huh Gal? :D

Dan Reeves brings instant credibility and national exposure. Who outside of USC knows Brad Edwards that well? Reeves on the other hand is a "household" name.

I'm not sure I understand why we need a "household name" as our AD. An AD's responsibilities are less in the Public Relations vein and more in the hard-line business one, and a "household name" doesn't do a whole heckuva lot when it comes to business negotiations (with state and local governments for land/arena deals, with prospective coaches for salary/term agreements, etc).

Take McGee, for example. I doubt many of us had ever heard of him when he was hired out of SoCal. But, he was a shrewd businessman, and a professional AD, and turned out to be an asset to our university.

I hope we go after someone like him, but if Brad is our choice, I'll be content that he had time to be "groomed" for the position.

[Galactus]

Well, it's usually a bad sign when the public and the media are familiar with the AD's name....I will say that.......If an AD is doing his job, most people should be unaware of him/her.

How many of us could, for example, name the athletic directors at Southern Cal, Oklahoma or Auburn? Not me.

[Drakeman]

Good points Gal & 'Coq. I don't really see the need for a high profile AD either. It might lead to a barrage of flash bulbs, camera's & mics for a short time, but an AD is more of an admin type position that's working behind the scenes IMO.

[JBryant12]

I have to agree with Drakeman on this one we need a guy who gets the job done not a guy who get the press

[jesse james]

Well, I thought we should've hired him in 1975 instead of Jim Carlen.

But that's me.

Hey Gal, didn't you mean "But that's ON me" :D

[Galactus]

LOL! Yes, Jesse....I guess that WOULD be more appropriate!

[King Ward]

I'm late getting into this discussion. Here are a few quick thoughts.

I believe and hope that the new AD will be an experienced athletic administrator, totally versed on the business aspects, compliance issues and gender equity issues that are unavoidable aspects of what that job entails today. I'm not high on gender equity. But if you are a public institution, you have to get in line.

I hope it will be someone who is onboard now, like a Brad Edwards or a Jeff Barber. Either of those gentlemen has the background to step into the job. I don't want a retreaded football coach given the job because he is an alum.

I think it is entirely possible that Sorensen will go outside to bring in his man. That way, he will never place himself in the unenviable position of being in a turf war with someone with strong ties to the university.

I think Mike McGee was an outstanding AD, well respected in his profession, who took on a tough task, stuck with it, and produced significant results. I only fault him for spurning the Panthers; because in so doing, he cost the school and the community a hell of a lot of money - money we could have used right now.

That said, he was our greatest AD ever, especially since that position was separated from the football coach's position. Dick Bestwick would have been a fine AD had his health permitted him to continue.

Jim Carlen was a good AD who first believed that USC should be in the SEC. But he always would have been in open conflict with somebody.

Paul Dietzel had great visions for fundraising and facitilities improvements. But he was an incandescent headline grabber. When he finally returned to LSU as AD, they showed him the gate after only two or three years. I was sorry we didn't retain him as AD, but it was probably a good thing he wasn't. After all, he pulled the worst move in the history of any school by taking us out of the ACC.

I know this is an SEC board, but what if one of the school presidents - other than that clown at Vandy - led a charter member school out of the SEC to go it alone as an independent? You'd think he was pretty crazy, right?