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Djshockley3
01-05-2005, 02:58 PM
I think carolina has a shot at winning the east wat do yall think?
I think carolina has a shot at winning the east wat do yall think?
I like this guy DJ! :)
USAFGAMECOCK
01-05-2005, 03:04 PM
I think carolina has a shot at winning the east wat do yall think?
Seeing a UGA fan write that puts a tear in my eye... ;) I think winning the East should be our goal, b/c I think it is acheivable, however I don't know if we'll do it in 05'. That would be oh so sweet, and I'd love to see us do it and I hope we do, but I think Spurrier will need a year or two to get things running the way he wants them to.
Djshockley3
01-05-2005, 03:06 PM
yeah i respect south carolina and if georgia dont win the east i hope they do cause i hate UT and Flordia.
yeah i respect south carolina and if georgia dont win the east i hope they do cause i hate UT and Flordia.
Well...UGA and USC have always played each other tight and every year, the game could go either way.
Djshockley3
01-05-2005, 03:23 PM
yeah we barely pulled it out last year.
yeah we barely pulled it out last year.
Hasn't USC & UGA been playing for something like 60 years or longer?
Djshockley3
01-05-2005, 03:32 PM
i do know how long?one thing i ask south carolina this year is that they beat UT?PLease
i do know how long?one thing i ask south carolina this year is that they beat UT?PLease
I'm not going to say we are going to beat UT. All I know is that USC will be more competitive than before.
Djshockley3
01-05-2005, 03:35 PM
Ok because i hate UT but the sec teams i respect
Volnooga
01-05-2005, 03:38 PM
Why didn't you just pick a screen name like IhateUT4life or something? That way you wouldn't have to type it every time you posted.
Ok because i hate UT but the sec teams i respect
Just looking at Spurrier's track record, you would be crazy to say that he won't compete in the SEC.
Spurrier has more talent at USC now than he had at Duke and his first year at Florida. Florida was in a boat that was worse off than what Alabama is.
Volnooga
01-05-2005, 03:41 PM
ii think he will. I hope he does good, I liked the rivalry. Hated him, but hated losing him in the SEC as well. Oh, BTW, did you know DJSHOCKLEY3 hates UT?
ii think he will. I hope he does good, I liked the rivalry. Hated him, but hated losing him in the SEC as well. Oh, BTW, did you know DJSHOCKLEY3 hates UT?
That's what I was telling a friend of mine. Mr. Spurrier will reanimate the rivalry between USC & UT.
GRASSHOPPER
01-05-2005, 03:52 PM
I think carolina has a shot at winning the east wat do yall think?THIS SOUNDS LIKE A SETUP! SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY HERE!
THIS SOUNDS LIKE A SETUP! SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY HERE!
Nope. I think he's right. Take a look at our previous recruiting classes via Rivals and we have a bookoo crop of talent that was redshirted this past year. :cool:
GRASSHOPPER
01-05-2005, 04:04 PM
Oh No I Believe We Can Win The East- Just Coming From A Georgia Fan Scares The Hell Out Of Me! Hey I Believe We Can Win The East Every Year But We Don't. I Believe In My Team Until They Prove Me Wrong.----go Cocks!
Oh No I Believe We Can Win The East- Just Coming From A Georgia Fan Scares The Hell Out Of Me! Hey I Believe We Can Win The East Every Year But We Don't. I Believe In My Team Until They Prove Me Wrong.----go Cocks!
I can see your point, but since the hiring of Spurrier, some people are going to view USC very differently.
GRASSHOPPER
01-05-2005, 04:09 PM
As You May Have Read In Some Of My Earlier Post Georgia Fans Are Not The Friendliest At Home Or On The Road! Not A Good Track Record With Me!
As You May Have Read In Some Of My Earlier Post Georgia Fans Are Not The Friendliest At Home Or On The Road! Not A Good Track Record With Me!
I've had bad experiences too with UGA fans, but not all of them are like that. I am willing to bet we have some fans like that at USC. :o
USAFGAMECOCK
01-05-2005, 04:11 PM
I can see your point, but since the hiring of Spurrier, some people are going to view USC very differently.
True...I think there are some other SEC coaches foaming at the mouth wanting to put it to Spurrier....but I think Spurrier thrives off of that type of stuff...should be interesting
True...I think there are some other SEC coaches foaming at the mouth wanting to put it to Spurrier....but I think Spurrier thrives off of that type of stuff...should be interesting
It's a proven fact that Spurrier loves competition. It's what drives him.
GRASSHOPPER
01-05-2005, 04:17 PM
I've had bad experiences too with UGA fans, but not all of them are like that. I am willing to bet we have some fans like that at USC. :oKEY WORD BEING SOME. I NOT BLIND TO ALL USC FANS BUT I THINK AS A WHOLE USC FANS ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO AWAY TEAMS FANS. EXCEPT SOMETING CHANGES WHEN GEORGIA COMES TO TOWN.
Djshockley3
01-05-2005, 04:58 PM
yes,every team has some bad fans it just depends on how many are bad and UGA and USC doesnt have that many bad ones.
yes,every team has some bad fans it just depends on how many are bad and UGA and USC doesnt have that many bad ones.
Every school has a few "Dumpy" fans. :)
QuackAttackVan
01-05-2005, 11:21 PM
Spurrier winning the East in 2006 or 2007 wouldn't shock me but next year? Doubtful. UT, UF, and UGA have much more talent on both sides of the ball (even though I am not a big DJ Shockley fan and UF losses Fason) and the recruiting classes still favor the Big 3 over USC. Spurrier would be crazy to start Newton as his QB and I have heard about Blake Mitchell being a top Pro-Style QB according to the recruiting services but if he couldn't crack Holtz's top 2-3 QB's during his short time....I am questionable as to how he would suddenly become an SEC-East Winner.
GRASSHOPPER
01-06-2005, 01:07 PM
Mitchell Has Got To Put On Some Bulk Also I Think Hes Between 6'2' And 6'4" And Weighs About 190. He Would Get Killed In The Sec Right Now But He Has Potential. I Don't Think Sos Is Looking Past Him- He Will Have His Shot.
Mitchell Has Got To Put On Some Bulk Also I Think Hes Between 6'2' And 6'4" And Weighs About 190. He Would Get Killed In The Sec Right Now But He Has Potential. I Don't Think Sos Is Looking Past Him- He Will Have His Shot.
Mitchell has also got to put his butt in that film room studying that playbook and film. According to what I have been told, the guy loves 5-Points and I will leave it at that.
GRASSHOPPER
01-06-2005, 01:23 PM
Mitchell has also got to put his butt in that film room studying that playbook and film. According to what I have been told, the guy loves 5-Points and I will leave it at that.COLLEGE STUDENT FIRST FOOTBALL PLAYER SECOND
JBryant12
01-06-2005, 01:38 PM
South Carolina will be competetive but winnin the SEC east is a little out of reach i think a second or third place finish behind Georgia is more attainable.
GRASSHOPPER
01-06-2005, 01:42 PM
I Don't Think Ga Will Be Near As Good As Tenn. I Think Ga Will Be Beatable Next Year.shockly Is Not Greene- Ga Will Miss David Greene Next Year And Also The Leadership Of Big #47 Dont Underestimate His Loss.pollack Was There Leader. Ga Looses Alot Of Superstars(to The Nfl I Might Add)
SeattleGamecocks
01-06-2005, 02:13 PM
I think we have a decent shot. We always seem to be right on the brink then slide. It seems like for the last several years the UT and the UGA games are ones we should have or at least could have won, but didn't put them away. I think Spurrier's willingness to go for the jugular will close the door on those blown leads.
I think we have a decent shot. We always seem to be right on the brink then slide. It seems like for the last several years the UT and the UGA games are ones we should have or at least could have won, but didn't put them away. I think Spurrier's willingness to go for the jugular will close the door on those blown leads.
Spurrier plays to destroy and win.
Holtz played not to lose.
GeauxTo
01-06-2005, 05:42 PM
USC with Spurrier certainly makes us think differently of the Gamecocks than we did before. It is a wait-and-see situation for next year, but knowing the Gamecocks have Spurrier makes me think of them with much more respect. They are a team to be wary of, for sure. They could be a surprising SEC powerhouse right out of the gate.
;)
USAFGAMECOCK
01-06-2005, 05:43 PM
USC with Spurrier certainly makes us think differently of the Gamecocks than we did before. It is a wait-and-see situation for next year, but knowing the Gamecocks have Spurrier makes me think of them with much more respect. They are a team to be wary of, for sure. They could be a surprising SEC powerhouse right out of the gate.
;)
God willing.... ;)
USC with Spurrier certainly makes us think differently of the Gamecocks than we did before. It is a wait-and-see situation for next year, but knowing the Gamecocks have Spurrier makes me think of them with much more respect. They are a team to be wary of, for sure. They could be a surprising SEC powerhouse right out of the gate.
;)
The only thing that bothers me is how people can compare Spurrier to Holtz. They are both totally different beasts all together. Holtz is a smash-mouth run it down your throat and then rest kinda coach.
Spurrier on the other hand is a "Go for the juggler" kinda guy. If he's up by 30 with 5 mins left, he's still going to try to score.
SPURED
01-06-2005, 08:27 PM
all i know is UGA girls are SOOOOO fine!!!
all i know is UGA girls are SOOOOO fine!!!
LOL! Spur, You're preaching to the wrong crowd dude! LOL! I know first hand that they are. :)
Djshockley3
01-06-2005, 09:43 PM
and how do you know
and how do you know
I've been to Athens several times. :) :)
troxel3
01-07-2005, 07:39 AM
Too bad for the SC program......your two WR are saying adios and headed for the NFL....but since Delorean is a "newswriter", I'm sure he already knew that.
CockyTatGuy
01-07-2005, 10:02 AM
Actually gooftroop everyone in SC already knows about it regardless of your status as anything other than a fan.
troxel3
01-07-2005, 10:15 AM
I think carolina has a shot at winning the east wat do yall think?
Yeah. And Miss. St. might win the West.
JBryant12
01-07-2005, 01:40 PM
oh well at least we'll make it to a bowl game for the first time in a few years
Too bad for the SC program......your two WR are saying adios and headed for the NFL....but since Delorean is a "newswriter", I'm sure he already knew that.
You are pathetic! LOL! You have gotten banned 5 times and you keep coming back.
When you were banned the first time, you said that you didn't want to come back. Why are you back? No one wants you here.
BTW: Only one receiver has gone to the NFL.
dudeman0501
01-07-2005, 03:48 PM
You are pathetic! LOL! You have gotten banned 5 times and you keep coming back.
When you were banned the first time, you said that you didn't want to come back. Why are you back? No one wants you here.
He's back to "pick on" you, DeL.
He's back to "pick on" you, DeL.
LOL! I doubt it. :)
I'm just a thorn is his butt.
jeffh
01-07-2005, 04:10 PM
I like your thinking but I don't see it with our schedule in 2005. Road games at UT,UGA and Auburn are going to make it very difficult but we'll see. I'm looking forward to scoring more than 10 points a game with the OBC running the show.
I like your thinking but I don't see it with our schedule in 2005. Road games at UT,UGA and Auburn are going to make it very difficult but we'll see. I'm looking forward to scoring more than 10 points a game with the OBC running the show.
If you look at history, we have always played UT better at Rocky Top than at home.
UGA is taking a major NFL Draft/Graduation hit. They won't be as strong in 2005.
Auburn is losing it's entire backfield to the Draft and graduation. OUCH! :)
QuackAttackVan
01-07-2005, 04:44 PM
UGA is losing a lot of talent but thanks to several straight years of good talent AND the demotion of Thurman during the first 3 games and thus the play of White and others....I don't think the hit will hurt too bad.
Van Gorder, believe won the Best Assis. Award last year, has done wonders at Georgia and I think with talent (including 5-Star Brandon Miller from last year) and the speed they will be fine.
I found it interesting that after 2003 SECCG Richt admitted they were too slow and they would get faster. Last year and this year's recruiting classes show that.
Tim Jennings leaving will, IMO, be a good thing as he got beat more often then I could count and Minter seems to be a good one....though he did struggle against Tech and Calvin Johnson.
rabidcock
01-08-2005, 10:26 AM
1. Tennessee (too much talent)
2. Florida (very talented, no longer sqandered with a new passing attack)
3. GA or SC (SC could surprise but receivers will be inexperienced)
4. SC or GA (GA loses a bunch but still stocked with plenty of talent; could be #2)
5. Kentucky (The cats may lose out to Vandy)
6. Vandy
1. Tennessee (too much talent)
2. Florida (very talented, no longer sqandered with a new passing attack)
3. GA or SC (SC could surprise but receivers will be inexperienced)
4. SC or GA (GA loses a bunch but still stocked with plenty of talent; could be #2)
5. Kentucky (The cats may lose out to Vandy)
6. Vandy
I don't think Florida will flourish this year. Meyer's spread offense won't work for very long in the SEC.
rabidcock
01-08-2005, 11:39 AM
I don't think Florida will flourish this year. Meyer's spread offense won't work for very long in the SEC.
Tell me then, what is the difference between Mayer's spread offense and Steve Spurrier's passing attack? [Curiosity]
Tell me then, what is the difference between Mayer's spread offense and Steve Spurrier's passing attack? [Curiosity]
There isn't that much difference except simplicity. Meyer's "Spread Offense" is very simple in nature and uses 4 WR's and 1 TE. Meyer likes the "Option" also and Leak is not an "Option" playing QB.
Spurrier's version of the spread uses 3 WR's and occasionaly, 2 TE's. Spurrier's system is about "timing" and that's why it failed in the NFL. NFL defenses are too complex and FAST.
That's why Spurrier recruits speedy players. You have got to run the 40 in 4.4 or better to run Spurrier's Fun-N-Gun.
Tell me then, what is the difference between Mayer's spread offense and Steve Spurrier's passing attack? [Curiosity]
If you watched the Fiesta Bowl this year? (Utah/Pitt)
Meyer kept calling the same three (3) plays the whole game. :)
TKE223
01-08-2005, 01:33 PM
I think carolina has a shot at winning the east wat do yall think?
God bless you Dj.
sburks40
01-08-2005, 02:02 PM
Not so early in the Steve Superior regime! I look for it to, maybe, happen in about 3 or 4 years! He's gotta build that team up!
JBryant12
01-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Build the team up? we arent talkin aobut a scrub team here this is the same Carolina that plays Georgia and Tennessee close almost every year. I'm not sayin we are gonna win the SEC east but we sure have a chance to.
Not so early in the Steve Superior regime! I look for it to, maybe, happen in about 3 or 4 years! He's gotta build that team up!
The talent is there. This team is not as bare as you would think. We have two back to back Top-15 recruiting classes and right now, we are ranked 37th. Considering that Spurrier didn't begin to recruit until December, that speaks volumes.
The only positions we are thin at are DT and DE. The list below are our class rankings per Rivals.com
2005 Class: http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Year=2005&School=69
2004 Class: http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Sport=1&Year=2004&School=69
2003 Class: http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Sport=1&Year=2003&School=69
2002 Class: http://rivals100.rivals.com/commitlist.asp?Sport=1&Year=2002&School=69
JBryant12
01-08-2005, 02:22 PM
Whatever happened to CJ Barber i havent heard anything about him in a while.
Whatever happened to CJ Barber i havent heard anything about him in a while.
He didn't qualify so he sat on his butt for months and now that USC has hired Spurrier, he wants to enroll.
I look at it this way. He's sloppy, his work ethic stinks and if he really wanted to play here, his butt would have been at a JC getting his GPA/SAT/ACT scores up instead of sitting around.
JBryant12
01-08-2005, 02:29 PM
well we have plenty of DBs anyway so it wont hurt us if he doesnt qualify again.
well we have plenty of DBs anyway so it wont hurt us if he doesnt qualify again.
Last I heard, Spurrier was NOT offering him a scolly.
JBryant12
01-08-2005, 03:07 PM
well if he didnt do anything all year he soesnt deserve one and unless he shows some determination and a want to play hes not gonna get one. if i were him id go to south carolina as a walk on and show my worth and then next year get a scholarship
well if he didnt do anything all year he soesnt deserve one and unless he shows some determination and a want to play hes not gonna get one. if i were him id go to south carolina as a walk on and show my worth and then next year get a scholarship
That's what a logical person with some intelligence would do. ;)
QuackAttackVan
01-08-2005, 08:26 PM
Georgia has 15 committs right now and I believe 11 are Out-of-state committments....this could be the best class Richt has put together.
I wouldn't be shocked to see them pull an Auburn and come out of the SEC as the Champion next year, the year after their "National Title" year...
Georgia has 15 committs right now and I believe 11 are Out-of-state committments....this could be the best class Richt has put together.
I wouldn't be shocked to see them pull an Auburn and come out of the SEC as the Champion next year, the year after their "National Title" year...
Not with DJ Shockley at the helm. He just doesn't look like a championship QB.
SPURED
01-08-2005, 10:08 PM
im still amazed at the people that think spurrier needs to rebuild this team.
im still amazed at the people that think spurrier needs to rebuild this team.
I agree. People make it sound as if we are Kentucky or Vanderbilt. :rolleyes:
SPURED
01-08-2005, 10:16 PM
I agree. People make it sound as if we are Kentucky or Vanderbilt. :rolleyes:
maybe you really have to watch all of our games to see the talent we do have. i dont know :rolleyes:
maybe you really have to watch all of our games to see the talent we do have. i dont know :rolleyes:
Or maybe it's wishful thinking. :D
QuackAttackVan
01-08-2005, 10:59 PM
Not with DJ Shockley at the helm. He just doesn't look like a championship QB.
Let me state that I don't believe UGA will make it to the NC game....heck...I dont have them winning the East in all my predictions...
But
No one can say exactly what Shockley does or doesn't have when he had yet to play a full game.
For every Tech 2nd half Shockley has played, he also has a Clemson 2002 game in which he won the game literally for UGA.....for every LSU game in 2003 he has a UGA/UK game.....it goes back and forth.
QuackAttackVan
01-08-2005, 11:04 PM
im still amazed at the people that think spurrier needs to rebuild this team.
What is amazing about that thought?
In order for USC to compete (and in that I mean compete for the EAST...not individual games against UF, UT, or UGA), I think he does have to rebuild the team. It's obvious what Holtz tried did not work at all in knocking down the Big 3 and despite early success against UGA....Richt was putting that down with I believe 3 wins in a row.
I know about a lot of the talent that South Carolina has but from an outside looking in....UGA, UF, and UT have a lot more due to success in recruiting and those teams having played in the SECCG. Bottom line is that USC has yet to beat UF since 1939 (yes, I know the big gap), UT since 1992, and have been beaten 3 times in a row by UGA, who is murdering their area in recruiting.
SPURED
01-08-2005, 11:19 PM
What is amazing about that thought?
In order for USC to compete (and in that I mean compete for the EAST...not individual games against UF, UT, or UGA), I think he does have to rebuild the team. It's obvious what Holtz tried did not work at all in knocking down the Big 3 and despite early success against UGA....Richt was putting that down with I believe 3 wins in a row.
I know about a lot of the talent that South Carolina has but from an outside looking in....UGA, UF, and UT have a lot more due to success in recruiting and those teams having played in the SECCG. Bottom line is that USC has yet to beat UF since 1939 (yes, I know the big gap), UT since 1992, and have been beaten 3 times in a row by UGA, who is murdering their area in recruiting.
but look at how close we have played UT and UGA the past few years! throw the ball some and we would have won most of those games. and winning those games would have us competing for the sec championship! we have talent it just hasnt been used correctly under holtz. but NOW it will finally be used correctly.
but look at how close we have played UT and UGA the past few years! throw the ball some and we would have won most of those games. and winning those games would have us competing for the sec championship! we have talent it just hasnt been used correctly under holtz. but NOW it will finally be used correctly.
Weren't we in the lead of the SEC East just prior to the Tennessee game?
SPURED
01-08-2005, 11:23 PM
Weren't we in the lead of the SEC East just prior to the Tennessee game?
i believe we were tied with tennessee for first. but im not quite sure. :confused:
QuackAttackVan
01-08-2005, 11:32 PM
but look at how close we have played UT and UGA the past few years! throw the ball some and we would have won most of those games. and winning those games would have us competing for the sec championship! we have talent it just hasnt been used correctly under holtz. but NOW it will finally be used correctly.
Right. And to add to that, the team with the most "talent" does not always win the Conference...Iowa in 2002 was far and away the 4th-5th most talented team in the Big10 yet still won (or tied...whatever) their conference.
With Shockley, you never know....USC could very well come down to a UF/USC game winner decides the East
BUT
I still think that Spurrier's system will need 2 years to fully come together.
He won 9 games in his first year at UF because the team was quite talented and suited for his offense....
SPURED
01-08-2005, 11:37 PM
I still think that Spurrier's system will need 2 years to fully come together.
He won 9 games in his first year at UF because the team was quite talented and suited for his offense....
well im not going to complain if we win 9 games and not win the east. as long as we go bowling again. but from what i saw from our team this year i do believe we CAN win with the talent we have now
QuackAttackVan
01-08-2005, 11:43 PM
Well, that is one thing I think makes a team a Champion....winning Titles.
I think UGA is a great program and has a great coach but I think they could be a little over-rated as they still have just 1 SEC Title.
I think of powerhouse programs as ones who have won several Conference titles within a short span. Maybe that is me.
cocky4ever
01-09-2005, 07:10 AM
well im not going to complain if we win 9 games and not win the east. as long as we go bowling again. but from what i saw from our team this year i do believe we CAN win with the talent we have now
I think SC will probably win about 9 games next season including the bowl game.
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