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Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-15-2006, 04:23 PM
I understand what you are saying, but I'm awaiting an article to see what the motives are. I want to know his reason for doing this.

Keep in mind that nothing has been officially reported. All of this is coming from someone in the know, who is usually correct.

On scout there is a comment from Gray's dad saying he's opened his recruiting back up. It's on the free side.

LedCock
07-15-2006, 04:25 PM
Nothing wrong with Gary Gray "opening up his recruiting". Not many 17 year olds get to have their butts kissed on a red carpet by a prestigious school. No one can blame him for making the trip. I grew up a Gamecock fan and if I were in his shoes I'd go just to check it out and have a good time.

Williams-Brice
07-15-2006, 04:28 PM
It was just reported on rivals, too. They made the decision to open it back up because his mom was not able to make the trip to South Bend when Gary went earlier.

As innocent as that sounds, I still don't like it. Folks, please do not rip Gary over this. How's that going to look?

Everything is going to work out in the end. We just gotta be patient now.

Carolina Cowboy
07-15-2006, 04:35 PM
WB I don't see how you can say don't rip on Gray. He knows what effect this will have on our recruiting. I think he is gone. :brick:

Williams-Brice
07-15-2006, 04:40 PM
I can say that because recruits read message boards. They may not read this one, but they may come accross it. It's not hard to find message boards dealing with college sports. He's not gone. He's reconsidering. I wouldn't give it very long before he ends up sticking with Carolina. Let's not do anything that would make him sway to the Irish.

Carolina Cowboy
07-15-2006, 04:54 PM
Tell that to QR and Maddox. He sold them on usc ,I wonder what they are thinking about now? I still think we will have a strong class, but if a recruit makes his college decision based on a bunch of arm chair coaches thats pretty bad.

Williams-Brice
07-15-2006, 05:03 PM
It happens. People on message boards are representative of their school's fan base. Many prospects make decisions based on fans, and I know for a fact that Gary Gray reads message boards.

What do you think is worse: Recruits making decisions based on fans or fans ripping recruits for making the decision that's best for him?

Give this time. Everything will work out.

Carolina Cowboy
07-15-2006, 05:12 PM
If thats true then he knows how much the the gamecock faithful needed his commitment. He also knows that he is our hometown hero in the world of recruiting. Makes you think that Barnes might have been working Gray rather than Gray working Barnes. Just Speculation

Williams-Brice
07-15-2006, 05:22 PM
There are several insiders who know what is going on here. I do not have access to this information. However, I can tell you that one of these insiders has told people that he's never been more upset with USC because this is the most careless and inexcusable thing anyone affiliated with USC has ever done. The bottom line is that something has happened within our staff to push Gary away. That's why I'm urging people not to be too harsh on Gary. Something someone on our staff has done/is doing has definitely turned him off.

scfan5338
07-15-2006, 05:58 PM
He is the focal point of our entire recruting class. It would be devastating to loose this guy. PLEASE GARY STAY WITH CAROLINA!!!! WE NEED YOU MAN!!!!!

GatorHunter
07-15-2006, 06:12 PM
Guys...it's only July....still have nearly 7 months before NSD.

At least the guy is doing this in July...if, in fact, he is "doing" anything at all. We lost two 4star guys on NSD...that sucked! Hopefully, he'll stick with his committment to USC.

SPURED
07-15-2006, 07:00 PM
like Williams Brice said. dont bash Gray for oppening up his recruitment again. Recruits do read these message boards. have you guys bashing him ever thought about how much pressure you are putting on a 17 year old kid? remember carlos Brown and Adam Patterson last year? Both were under a TON of pressure from the Home state fans to stay home well guess what they both left there homestate to escape the enormous amounts of pressure. Now i for one would hate for that to happen to Gary because he is without a doubt the best high school DB i have ever seen. if he decides to leave i will wish him well and hope he represents the State of South Carolina well. when you get into Big Time recruiting like we are, you will win some and you will lose some it happens to all the big time programs. Just because we have Spurrier doesnt meen we are excused from that. I have complete faith that Gary's heart is still with the Gamecocks and in the end he will follow his heart.

DELTOR
07-15-2006, 07:09 PM
Gary, come to USC. We want you! If you want to look to your ultimate future, look at the defensive backs we've put into the NFL in recent years. Ko Simpson, Johnathan Joseph, Dunta Robinson, Sheldon Brown, Andre Goodman. And now Fred Bennett is a 1st team all SEC selection who will more than likely do well in the draft too. USC is "Defensive Back U" and you would be a fine addition to our recent tradition of great DBs!

Carolina Cowboy
07-15-2006, 08:47 PM
WB I don't Know whats going on down there at the athletic department but first they pissed off Mathews now Gray backs off.Last year Barnes wanted to commit to USC and that seems like a long shot. I have heard that SS is not a great recruiter and that is the part of coaching he does not like. This staff is droping the ball. Please enlightened us on what is going on up there. It appears that our summer camp was a waste of time.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-15-2006, 10:51 PM
like Williams Brice said. dont bash Gray for oppening up his recruitment again. Recruits do read these message boards. have you guys bashing him ever thought about how much pressure you are putting on a 17 year old kid? remember carlos Brown and Adam Patterson last year? Both were under a TON of pressure from the Home state fans to stay home well guess what they both left there homestate to escape the enormous amounts of pressure. Now i for one would hate for that to happen to Gary because he is without a doubt the best high school DB i have ever seen. if he decides to leave i will wish him well and hope he represents the State of South Carolina well. when you get into Big Time recruiting like we are, you will win some and you will lose some it happens to all the big time programs. Just because we have Spurrier doesnt meen we are excused from that. I have complete faith that Gary's heart is still with the Gamecocks and in the end he will follow his heart.
patterson wanted to leave here b/c he has been here all his life and he wanted to see how it is away from home... so u r wrong...u must be thinking of the basketball player mike jones who didnt want to be here and is going to syracuse b/c he cant take the pressure of the home state ....i know one thing if he go to nd he thinks he is getting blasted now he really will get blasted if he goes to nd..i know he is young but i dont respect anyone who acts like they r gamecocks and back off...also if its true that someone in this athletic department is running our recruits off then they need to get it together or they need to go....im seeing that charlie weiss is recruiting him this could get really ugly...vt coach beamer was mad we got hanna now charlie is trying to get gray...if gray goes to nd i wanna know what spurrier really feels i dont care if weiss is his friend or not....

GAMECOCKBOY
07-15-2006, 10:52 PM
July 15, 2006
Gray backs off USC commitment
According to reliable sources, DB Gary Gray (5-10, 165) of Richland Northeast has backed off his commitment to USC, which he made on March 23, after making an unofficial visit this weekend to Notre Dame with his mother.

According to sources, Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is personally recruiting Gray and the trip was his mother's first chance to see Notre Dame.

Gray is in the process of re-assessing his plans between USC and Notre Dame. He will make an official visit for the Michigan game.

Gray was USC's first commitment for the 2007 class and is rated by some as the top cornerback in the country in this year's class.

scfan5338
07-15-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm sad to say though, but I think we might have lost him. I really hope not though.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-15-2006, 11:15 PM
I'm sad to say though, but I think we might have lost him. I really hope not though.
its not over...but i am getting back in my old state of mind when he was down to us and nd...i thought he would go to nd... so i wouldnt be suprised ..so i was suprised when he picked the gamecocks....i am going to do the samething and be suprised if he is a gamecock...time will only tell...i know one thing i want another committment and we need football to hurry up and come

rabidcock
07-16-2006, 07:07 AM
This staff is dropping the ball. Please enlighten us on what is going on up there.

If this is actually the case, whereby certain members of the staff are being less than tactful, THEY are the ones that need to be removed. The job of the entire staff should be to make these kids rabid Cock fans. A well-qualified psychologist should be employed with the sole purpose of seeing to it that recruits are felt appreciated, thereby enabling the subtle integration of those recruits into the Gamecock family.

Williams-Brice
07-16-2006, 08:39 AM
The information I am gathering is telling me that Gary Gray's potential USC position coach, Ron Cooper, has never contacted Gary. This include calling him on his own time, texting him on his own time, or returning Gary's calls and text messages. I don't know about y'all, but if my position coach showed zero interest in me, then I may rethink my plans as well.

Please keep in mind that this is speculation from a lot of different people, and no article from a reliable source has been written. We may never truly know what's going on with this situation, but someone on our staff has undoubtably dropped the ball.

pc72687
07-16-2006, 12:42 PM
This is the kinda stuff I hate hearing about. I just hope others don't follow suit.

rabidcock
07-16-2006, 12:43 PM
....someone on our staff has dropped the ball.

Well, it's time for him to "pick it up"!

By the way, thanks for your gracious explanation, at least, as you have heard it. :mellow:

Carolina Cowboy
07-16-2006, 03:33 PM
Coach Explains Gray's Decision
By Phil Kornblut
Richland Northeast DB Gary Gray (5-10 165) revealed Saturday he has withdrawn his commitment to USC after making an unofficial visit to Notre Dame with his mother. Gray was USC's first commitment for the 2007 class making his announcement at a news conference March 23rd. "I'm 100% Gamecock," Gray said at the time. "It was really between Notre Dame and USC. Notre Dame is a great school. I love their facilities but I had to do what was best for me." Apparently what is best for Gray now is to take a step back and look closer at both programs before making an absolute decision. "They've opened up the recruiting again between Notre Dame and USC,' RNE coach Jay Frye said Sunday afternoon. "He's going to make an official visit to USC September 9th and one to Notre Dame September 16th. He feels like his decision to commit to USC was made in haste. With that being the case, he decided to take another look. His mother had not been to Notre Dame. This was initiated by Gary's family, not Notre Dame. He decided to go up there and take a look. His family was impressed. They are also impressed with USC. It will come down to the official visits and where he feels the most comfortable in the long run. He has a few regrets committing as early as he did with his mom seeing Notre Dame. This is going to be ticklish, I don't have to tell you that." Gray is rated by some as the top cornerback in the country. He has been nursing a broken finger since the spring but will be ready for the start of practice in two weeks.

Whatever!!!!!!!!!

Williams-Brice
07-16-2006, 03:50 PM
I'm not concerned about losing Gary because in the long run, Gary will be a Gamecock. I have concerns about what this means for some of the prospects who will be making decisions in the near future. There has been a remarkable amount of negative recruiting going around as of late, and this can't help our case. I don't fault Gary because this was provoked by someone on our staff. I'm worried that this will push others away from USC.

GamecockDieHard
07-16-2006, 03:57 PM
If Cooper loses Gray, I'd hate to be in that first meeting he has with Spurrier. Even if the rumor about Spurrier hating recruiting is true, I fully expect him to require his coaches to damn well love recruiting.

Williams-Brice
07-16-2006, 04:19 PM
I completely agree. If all of this pans out to be true, then I won't be able to understand how the crap Ron Cooper was named interim recruiting coordinator when Rick Stockstill left at the beginning of the year.

I don't know if we'll ever truly find out what's going on. If the speculated situation is actually taking place, then I doubt we'll ever hear Ron Cooper publically called out by anyone in a position to do so, especially Gary Gray. The best thing, and the only thing, we can do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride.

By the way, there is a football season that will take place between now and Signing Day. I can't wait for that.

DELTOR
07-16-2006, 06:00 PM
He is making an official visit September 9th? That's the UGA game is it not? We better be freakin pumped for that game, and I want every Cock on this board to be as hyped for that game as if they had just won they lottery. Let's give him a good show.

GamecockDieHard
07-16-2006, 07:13 PM
Agreed W-B and DELTOR. Much of our recruiting anxiety could be alleviated if we can show something on the field. Gray is probably listening to our detractors that say we can't win and we'll never compete for a NC. It is a tough sell but a good season, showing promise under a legendary coach can cure alot of our recruiting ills. But for any potential recruits that may be reading our site, I'll say this: Spurrier gets national exposure, we play quality teams, even in defeat quality players will be spotlighted. Heck, when you think about it, a top notch player can shine even brighter on a team that lacks depth. There is no way that a young player should discount the Cocks based soley on winning a NC. A NC is a good memory, but you get more signing dollars if you actually get to play and make an impact. Some of these top teams have exceptional players that barely get noticed 'cause someone else is playing over the top and gets all the press. But I really believe Spurrier will make us contenders and those players that are instrumental in that turnaround will be highly sought in the NFL draft. IMO.

Dr. Pepper
07-16-2006, 07:15 PM
Every single 2007 commitment is still open for recruiting. I am amazed that there is so much hype about kids who have yet to play a single game during there senior year of high school. Some of these guys will get hurt. Unknowns will have great seasons. Some will get mad at their coaches and quit all together. Until the day after signing day, anything can happen.

If we have a great season, our signing class will be even better than we think. If there are internal problems among the staff, they will be worked out.

Let us not get too high on any kid, and let's certainly be grateful that a lot of top prospects are considering us. We will win a few and lose a few. We have no right to be angry at anyone.

Give these 17 year olds a break and let them prove their worth on the gridiron.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-16-2006, 07:21 PM
Every single 2007 commitment is still open for recruiting. I am amazed that there is so much hype about kids who have yet to play a single game during there senior year of high school. Some of these guys will get hurt. Unknowns will have great seasons. Some will get mad at their coaches and quit all together. Until the day after signing day, anything can happen.

If we have a great season, our signing class will be even better than we think. If there are internal problems among the staff, they will be worked out.

Let us not get too high on any kid, and let's certainly be grateful that a lot of top prospects are considering us. We will win a few and lose a few. We have no right to be angry at anyone.

Give these 17 year olds a break and let them prove their worth on the gridiron.
u can say lets not get so high on kids....the fact is this is where recruiting is and it will only get worst ....

Carolina Cowboy
07-16-2006, 07:23 PM
http://wm.wltx.gannett.edgestreams.net//news/july06/07152006_garygray_wltx.wmv

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-16-2006, 09:34 PM
So do you think if he commits to Notre Dame he'll rip his shirt off revealing a ND jersey? :thumbsdow :closedeye

Williams-Brice
07-16-2006, 10:02 PM
Hahah. I certainly don't see him holding another press conference either way.

Gary will be on campus either Tuesday or Wednesday this week. I just don't see him signing with Notre Dame when all is said and done. Spurrier will be back in town this week to clear up things for Gary when he comes to campus. Everything is going to be fine.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-16-2006, 10:42 PM
July 16, 2006
Gray, USC Coaches To Meet
By Phil Kornblut
DB Gary Gray of Richland Northeast, who backed off his commitment to USC over the weekend after making an unofficial visit to Notre Dame, will meet with USC coaches this week according to a source familiar with the situation. The source said Gray rushed his commitment to the Gamecocks in March and regretted not giving his mother a chance to visit Notre Dame as she did over the weekend. The source said Gray, and some of the people close to him, got caught up in the fervor created by his recruiting, especially on the internet, and pushed him towards making a quicker decision than he should have made. Because of that, Gray decided to step back from his USC commitment and open things back up only to the Gamecocks and Notre Dame. Gray will make an official visit to USC September 9th and will visit Notre Dame the next week.

Dr. Pepper
07-17-2006, 05:38 AM
u can say lets not get so high on kids....the fact is this is where recruiting is and it will only get worst ....
I am just saying to let the coaches do the recruiting and let the chips fall where they may. If we are letting a 17 year old kid who is 7 months away from making a firm commitment determine our happiness, then we are living some pretty sad lives. It is interesting, but nothing more.

Sure, I want Gray (and every other top recruit) to be a Gamecock. I can't imagine the pressure that he and his family are going through (as well as every other aspiring collegiate player in the country). There are so many factors which go into making a decision, and yes, negativity and bashing from disgruntled fans factor into the equation. We can cast stones at a guy and be detrimental to Spurrier's efforts, or we can say "we want you but we wish you the best if you go elsewhere."

The thing that excites me is that we are now in a whole new game as far as recruiting goes. We are actually competing for blue chippers from across the country. It won't get worse. It will get better. We are miles ahead of where we used to be, but we are not at the top yet.

We do not need to worry about Gray or anyone else right now. Many of these guys will change their minds a dozen times between now and NSD.

What we need to do is to concentrate on beating MSU and UGA. If we do that, then the rest will begin to fall into place.

GamecockDieHard
07-17-2006, 07:06 AM
Gray needs some advice from older athletes about life after the NFL. If Gray comes back to Columbia, life as a USC star followed by a good NFL career opens up alot of opportunities within his hometown community. Can't say the same about a ND star.

pc72687
07-17-2006, 01:37 PM
I think Dr. Pepper has it right. While first off I was amazed and shocked, he does have to make a choice and it is his choice. Now I believe personally that SC is the best place for him, now we just have to wait and see whether he believes that also.

pc72687
07-17-2006, 01:39 PM
Also here is this:

Gamecockcentral.com has an article that is about Richardson and Maddox.. it reads like

Richardson-"As far as I'm concerned, it's not going to affect me. I'm not taking any other visits or anything. I'll be at all the home games, so they (South Carolina) can count me in."

Maddox-"It (Gray's decision) doesn't really affect me because I know in the end he's (Gray) going to be at South Carolina, too. I don't see anything changing."

TrueGCFan
07-17-2006, 04:30 PM
I'm glad to see their still sure about their decision. In the end I know Gray will make the right decision. What ever that is.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-17-2006, 05:01 PM
July 17, 2006
Gray To Meet With USC
By Kevin McCrarey
Richland Northeast corner back Gary Gray (5-10 165) and his mother will meet with members of the USC coaching staff tomorrow. According to sources Steve Spurrier will be at the meeting. In fact, Spurrier is cutting his vacation short to attend. The meeting has been set to clear the air and possibly iron out any issues Gray has with USC. Carolina is hoping the meeting will get Gray back into its fold for 2007. Over the weekend Gray de-committed from the Gamecock and said that he was reconsidering Notre Dame.

Williams-Brice
07-17-2006, 06:13 PM
The bottom line on this situation is that Gary Gray is one of Spurrier's favorite recruits of all time. That's coming from the inside. It's not just wishful thinking. Spurrier LOVES Gray, and he's not about to lose this one. You may finally see Steve Spurrier doing everything in his power to gain a kid's (re)commitment. I feel great about this. The timing sure sucks, but we're going to be okay.

GamecockDieHard
07-17-2006, 07:27 PM
July 17, 2006
Gray To Meet With USC
By Kevin McCrarey
Richland Northeast corner back Gary Gray (5-10 165) and his mother will meet with members of the USC coaching staff tomorrow. According to sources Steve Spurrier will be at the meeting. In fact, Spurrier is cutting his vacation short to attend. The meeting has been set to clear the air and possibly iron out any issues Gray has with USC. Carolina is hoping the meeting will get Gray back into its fold for 2007. Over the weekend Gray de-committed from the Gamecock and said that he was reconsidering Notre Dame.


If a new recruit isn't impressed by a coach making a special trip back from vacation to address his concerns, then the kid doesn't see the forest for the trees. I'm very encouraged by Spur's efforts here. I'm also eager to hear any scuttle-butt on how he addresses the problem that made Gray de-commit in the first place. Lack of contact or whatever...that needs to be solved. Sure, everyone loses a commitment now and again, but not this one, not this soon. Like someone else said, that's a blow to all of our recruiting efforts, at this stage.

Williams-Brice
07-17-2006, 07:57 PM
If a new recruit isn't impressed by a coach making a special trip back from vacation to address his concerns, then the kid doesn't see the forest for the trees.

I agree except Charlie Weiss did this same thing when Gary decided to visit ND. Hahah.

This is going to get worked out when all is said and done!

GAMECOCKBOY
07-17-2006, 09:43 PM
I agree except Charlie Weiss did this same thing when Gary decided to visit ND. Hahah.

This is going to get worked out when all is said and done!
i hope its all worked out in our favor....weiss was an assistant here and nd def cor \was here 2 years ago...so they plan on recruiting here alot over the years... so we will have to start fighting the nds and other northern teams off our instate recruits....

July 17, 2006
Barnes Visiting USC Tuesday
By Phil Kornblut
DB Gary Gray won't be the only major prospect from Richland Northeast visiting the USC football coaches Tuesday. WR Mark Barnes (6-3 195) said Monday night he, too, will meet with the Gamecocks Tuesday afternoon. Barnes said he set up the meeting with USC and will be talking with Steve Spurrier and assistants David Reaves and Steve Spurrier Jr. "It's basically to see how I relate to the coaches and see where they are coming from, and to see what it takes to be at Carolina," Barnes said. Barnes said he's been talking the most this summer with USC, Louisville and Virginia Tech. He will visit Louisville this Saturday. In early August he will visit Florida, Florida State and Georgia Tech. He said he will also visit LSU in August, and he plans to take a trip to Southern Cal during the season. Gray said he has not cut his list and does not have a favorite.

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-17-2006, 10:04 PM
No matter what happens, Gray has hurt our efforts. If he recommits then great. But he's given the Taters and all our conference foes great ammo against us on the recruiting front. Even if he comes back on board and signs, he'll have to regain my respect.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-17-2006, 10:14 PM
No matter what happens, Gray has hurt our efforts. If he recommits then great. But he's given the Taters and all our conference foes great ammo against us on the recruiting front. Even if he comes back on board and signs, he'll have to regain my respect.

we dont know what is going on ....if its true what they say about our coaches not doing what they need to do...then they need to step there game up...i am not happy with gray but he is well spoken and a good guy.... in the end i hope and want him to be a gamecock...

pc72687
07-17-2006, 10:28 PM
I think we all need to just let Gray do what is right for HIM. I know that is hard, since I too would love to see him in a Gamecock uniform. I just hope that what he decides is best for him turns out the be SC again!

Dr. Pepper
07-18-2006, 05:55 AM
[QUOTE=GAMECOCKBOY]i hope its all worked out in our favor....weiss was an assistant here and nd def cor \was here 2 years ago...so they plan on recruiting here alot over the years... so we will have to start fighting the nds and other northern teams off our instate recruits....QUOTE]


Weiss is not targeting the state of SC because of his past here. ND has forever had a national recruiting base. He wants Gray because he is one of the best DB's in the nation. Each year there may be a couple of guys from each state that the ND's, Southern Cal's, etc. are interested in and out of that group, about 20 that they really want. ND really wants Gray. It shows just how good Gray is.

ND has a lot to offer. I don't blame the kid for keeping his options open. I hope we get him, but it may take a few more years before we have the kind of program that the Gary Gray's of Texas and California, and the rest of the country want to be a part of. We are getting there. Be patient.

pc72687
07-18-2006, 09:35 AM
This season will tell us how far we have come. I think it is important for us to win 8 or 9 games to show the world that last year wasn't a fluke and be a springboard for 2007.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-18-2006, 03:46 PM
Gary Gray Update
By Kevin McCrarey
Richland Northeast defensive back Gary Gray and his mother met with USC football coach Steve Spurrier and his staff for about 45 minutes today. During the meeting Gray did not re-commit to Carolina and told Spurrier that Notre Dame remains in the picture. Gray's mother apparently was very impressed with Notre Dame. As things stand Gray still plans to visit USC on September 9th for the Georgia game and then head to South Bend the following week to watch Notre Dame and Michigan. He hopes to have a decision shortly after that.

pc72687
07-18-2006, 05:27 PM
Well that wasn't quite what I was hoping for. But I still have hope since Paulk, QR, Maddox, Addison, Garicia and Barnes are either on the team or hopefully soon to be apart. All of these guys are his friends and I have a hard time seeing him leaving these guys to go elsewhere...I hope.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-18-2006, 06:28 PM
yeah finally some good news for us...now we need more of it lol
July 18, 2006
Infielder Picks USC
By Phil Kornblut
The USC baseball team has picked up a 2007 commitment from INF White Merrifield (6-0 165) of Davie County High School in Mocksville, NC. Merrifield also considered Clemson, Georgia Tech, NC State, Wake Forest and East Carolina. His father played at Wake Forest and in the majors. Merrifield is a middle infielder who batted .462 last season and stole 30 bases. He bats right and throws right and was all state as a junior

GAMECOCKBOY
07-18-2006, 06:29 PM
July 18, 2006
Barnes USC Visit Wednesday
By Phil Kornblut
WR Mark Barnes of Richland Northeast had planned to visit USC Tuesday, but that unofficial visit was postponed until Wednesday. Barnes plans to meet with Gamecock head coach Steve Spurrier and several assistants.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 08:01 AM
Attention From ND Turned Gary Gray
By Phil Kornblut
Regular contact from Notre Dame coaches, and a lack of the same, perceived or otherwise, from USC led Richland Northeast DB Gary Gray to reopen his recruiting between the Fighting Irish and the Gamecocks. Gray had been a Gamecock commitment since March but de-committed after making an unofficial visit to South Bend last weekend with his mother. Gray's godfather, Duane Wages, an assistant coach at RNE, also made the trip. Gray declined an interview request Tuesday night after meeting earlier in the day with USC head coach Steve Spurrier. But according to informed sources, Gray has been upset over a lack of contact from USC, particulary his position coach Ron Cooper with whom he wanted to build a relationship. Gray has had regular contact from his Gamecock recruiter David Reaves, but according to a source, he had heard nothing from Cooper for weeks until earlier this week. This may have just been a simple oversight by Cooper, according to a source, because he has taken on additional duties as assistant head coach and may not have been able to spend as much time on recruiting as in the past, especially when it comes to a committed player who was thought to be lock solid. In the meantime, according to the source, Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis sent regular text messages to Gray. And defensive backs coach Bill Lewis sent a text message shortly after Gray had surgery in the spring for a broken finger. According to the source, all of this led Gray to feel Notre Dame was concerned about him beyond his football skills. Now feeling shaky about the USC commitment, Gray and Wages arrainged what they thought would be a secret unofficial visit to Notre Dame. According to the source, Gray went so far as to give associates misleading information about his weekend plans. But Gray was spotted on the Notre Dame campus and the visit was exposed on the internet. Tuesday Gray, his mother and Wages met with Spurrier for about 45 minutes. Gray informed Spurrier he no longer was committed and would make a final decision in September after official visits to the two schools. He will visit USC September 9th for the Georgia game and Notre Dame September 16th for the Michigan game.

SHOCKTOP
07-19-2006, 08:32 AM
Well, it looks like he could have told Coach Reeves if he wanted to talk
to his position coach. I hope people won't get all over our coaching
staff because of this. We need to have confidence in the people we
have running the show and not jump to conclusions based on a kid who
hasn't been getting enough attention.

Williams-Brice
07-19-2006, 08:47 AM
Cliff Matthews will be on a tour of USC at 11:30. Unfortunately, I will be giving a tour at 10:00. Obviously, I'd rather be giving Cliff the tour, but it can't be worked out. I think it would be beneficial if a USC student from Georgia was able to talk to Cliff since he is now favoring the Bulldogs. However, it's just not in the cards. I'll try to get as much information as I can.

OmahaBound
07-19-2006, 08:47 AM
i don't disagree shocktop. but if i'm in his position and all my potential coaches at ND quickly contact me to see how i'm doing after surgery and USC doesn't, i'm seriously reconsidering as well.

i see nothing disrespectful or showing lack of character from gray at all in this situation. he has to do what is best for him, and if he decides that going to South Bend is what's best then so be it. i of course hope he decides to stay in Columbia, but either way i'll wish him luck because he seems like a pretty good kid who has his head on straight (and how many 17 yr olds can we really say that about anyway).

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 08:58 AM
Cliff Matthews will be on a tour of USC at 11:30. Unfortunately, I will be giving a tour at 10:00. Obviously, I'd rather be giving Cliff the tour, but it can't be worked out. I think it would be beneficial if a USC student from Georgia was able to talk to Cliff since he is now favoring the Bulldogs. However, it's just not in the cards. I'll try to get as much information as I can.
r u giving a tour to a football player too?

SHOCKTOP
07-19-2006, 09:00 AM
You make good points. I just think that our coaches considered him
a firm commit (which is what he said he was) and were spending their
time trying to work on others. It's not like he had no contact from USC
if coach Reeves was talking to him.

Seems like the mother is pushing for ND, which in a way you can't blame
her. If I weren't a Gamecock fanatic I would probably rather my son
played there if he had a chance. They are in fact the most storied
football team in America.

pc72687
07-19-2006, 11:05 AM
I would think any mother would rather have her son closer to her. But maybe she is different.

Williams-Brice
07-19-2006, 11:20 AM
I would think any mother would rather have her son closer to her. But maybe she is different.

My mother sent me out of state to USC because she knew I would be happy here. Gary's mom has Gary's interests at heart.

Williams-Brice
07-19-2006, 11:23 AM
r u giving a tour to a football player too?

No, my tour was with general prospective students.

It turns out that the girl who ended up giving the tour to Cliff is the sister of a former stud college quarterback who went on to have a career in the NFL. I had no idea she was related to him. I'm not going to give the name of her brother in order to protect her identity, but she's the right person for this tour. The people here with Cliff knew her brother, and a connection was immediately made.

I should have more info later in the day when they get back.

TrueGCFan
07-19-2006, 02:41 PM
What do we know about this guy? Also, does he have offers from Auburn and Ol' Miss or is he just intrested?

By Phil Kornblut
USC offered DE Jonathan Williams (6-5 270) of Mississippi Delta JC earlier this month according to the Augusta Chronicle. Williams prepped at Glenn Hills High School in Augusta where he is the all time sacks leader. He has been committed to Mississippi State but now has serious interest in USC. "The coaches at South Carolina were impressed with my quickness and the way I can change direction and not miss a step," Williams told the Chronicle. Williams also is considering Auburn and Ole Miss but favors USC and Mississippi State.

Williams-Brice
07-19-2006, 02:50 PM
Rivals says he committed to Mississippi State in March, and it has no other information other than an Ole Miss offer. I wouldn't doubt it if the USC offer is true. However, he appears to be listed as a defensive tackle.

I'm no longer putting much stock into Phil Kornblut. He reported that Gary Gray won't be conducting any interviews, and then a few hours later, Tony Morrell had an interview with Gary Gray up on GamecockCentral.

Dr. Pepper
07-19-2006, 03:24 PM
r u giving a tour to a football player too?

GamecockBoy. Please check out WB's signature.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 03:39 PM
GamecockBoy. Please check out WB's signature.

dp i dont know what your problem is...but i am 21 years old ....i am grown.. i will do what i want when i want...i only have one mommy and daddy and u r not it....i will spell how i want to...im not here to be your friend...so u can take that to the bank

Williams-Brice
07-19-2006, 03:51 PM
Jeremy Davis has committed to South Carolina. He is the wide recevier USC placed at Fork Union. Rivals ranks prep school prospects based on their production at the prep school, not high school. If he performs the way he did in high school and at USC's camp not long ago, then he will debut as a 5-star WR.

Sounds good to me.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 03:55 PM
Jeremy Davis has committed to South Carolina. He is the wide recevier USC placed at Fork Union. Rivals ranks prep school prospects based on their production at the prep school, not high school. If he performs the way he did in high school and at USC's camp not long ago, then he will debut as a 5-star WR.

Sounds good to me.
thats nice to see...we r over due for some good news...i hope it keeps coming....

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 04:01 PM
July 19, 2006
Matthews At USC A Day Early
By Phil Kornblut
DE Cliff Matthews (6-5 223) of Cheraw was scheduled to make his final unofficial visit to USC Thursday. Instead, he made that visit Wednesday. "I had a good time," Matthews said in a brief conversation as he was driving back to his home." We'll have a further update from Matthews later. Richland Northeast WR Mark Barnes and Spring Valley OL Quintin Richardson also were at USC Wednesday for unofficial visits.

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Story about ND's negative recruiting:

http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=98262&section=sports

TrueGCFan
07-19-2006, 05:07 PM
Jeremy Davis has committed to South Carolina. He is the wide recevier USC placed at Fork Union. Rivals ranks prep school prospects based on their production at the prep school, not high school. If he performs the way he did in high school and at USC's camp not long ago, then he will debut as a 5-star WR.

Sounds good to me.
When can we expect him to come in?

Dr. Pepper
07-19-2006, 08:11 PM
dp i dont know what your problem is...but i am 21 years old ....i am grown.. i will do what i want when i want...i only have one mommy and daddy and u r not it....i will spell how i want to...im not here to be your friend...so u can take that to the bank

At the moment, you are my problem. I am glad that I am not your parent. Show some respect to your fellow SECTalk members. This is not a text messaging site. It is a place to share information and to have intelligient (and sometimes irreverent) conversation about said information.

Dr. Pepper
07-19-2006, 08:13 PM
July 19, 2006
Matthews At USC A Day Early
By Phil Kornblut
DE Cliff Matthews (6-5 223) of Cheraw was scheduled to make his final unofficial visit to USC Thursday. Instead, he made that visit Wednesday. "I had a good time," Matthews said in a brief conversation as he was driving back to his home." We'll have a further update from Matthews later. Richland Northeast WR Mark Barnes and Spring Valley OL Quintin Richardson also were at USC Wednesday for unofficial visits.

WB, did you happen to bump into Richardson and Barnes today?

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 09:35 PM
At the moment, you are my problem. I am glad that I am not your parent. Show some respect to your fellow SECTalk members. This is not a text messaging site. It is a place to share information and to have intelligient (and sometimes irreverent) conversation about said information.
u havent earn my respect....u the one that when i say something ...u try to be a smart ass and tell me what to do...i am strong willed and u can say what u want....but i am going to do what i want....i am going to spell the way i want too...i am not changing for u or anyone else....this is me....i have an idea how about u dont say anything to me... unless i made a mistake about a comment i made on our team our someone else....lets face it...u dont like me and i dont like u ...so that is best for both of us....

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 09:43 PM
July 19, 2006
Matthews Gets Full Attention At USC
By Phil Kornblut
DE Cliff Matthews (6-5 223) of Cheraw spent several hours at USC Wednesday on an unofficial visit. "When I got there I went into coach Spurrier's office and he talked about winning a national championship and conference titles at Florida," Matthews said. "He also talked about winning the Heisman. Coach Reaves took us around campus and showed me some things I didn't see before...the library, the academic center, the cafeteria, the dorms. We went back to the coaches offices and I talked to coach Lawing. We watched some film and he showed me some things that they run and moves they use for the defensive ends to get to the quarterback. He talked about me staying in state. After that I met with coach Nix and we watched some film, too. It's still Georgia, Clemson and USC in that order but all three have a shot.
Matthews said Georgia's lead was pretty large and USC did make up some ground but is still third. He plans to take another unofficial visit to Clemson but the date has not been set. And he might take another visit to Georgia before he decides in August before his season. Tomorrow Matthews leaves for Las Vegas for an AAU basketball tournament.

Williams-Brice
07-19-2006, 10:04 PM
When can we expect him to come in?

He'll count towards this class. He is our 5th commitment.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-19-2006, 10:15 PM
He'll count towards this class. He is our 5th commitment.
do u have any stats on him...do u know if he was offered by anyone else?..i love it when we find diamonds in the rough and they turn into stars like sidney rice,ko simpson...i hope we have that with some of the players here and some of the future gamecocks...

Dr. Pepper
07-20-2006, 05:12 AM
u havent earn my respect....u the one that when i say something ...u try to be a smart ass and tell me what to do...i am strong willed and u can say what u want....but i am going to do what i want....i am going to spell the way i want too...i am not changing for u or anyone else....this is me....i have an idea how about u dont say anything to me... unless i made a mistake about a comment i made on our team our someone else....lets face it...u dont like me and i dont like u ...so that is best for both of us....

I do not care whether you like me or respect me. However, take a look around. You are the only one that writes like that and it is annoying. If you want to be annoying, go right ahead, but I would expect a 21 year old to be a little wiser about his or her environment. I could care less about your "this is me" attitude. One day you will die and the preacher will stand up and say, "you know, there is not a lot I can say about Mr. Gamecockboy, except he sure was annoying." Good luck, sir. :brick:

palmettocock
07-20-2006, 06:49 AM
Hey ya'll I've been out of the country since the 11th, and I guess I've missed a lot. Come on, ya'll couldnt keep everything in order? I leave for 10 days and all hell breaks loose. I'm all filled in on Gray now, but wasn't Garcia supposed to announce at the Elite 11 camp?

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 06:52 AM
The Elite 11 camp isn't until the 24th of July. I doubt he will commit there because he and the staff both want him to come to campus at some point before he pulls the trigger.

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 06:58 AM
u havent earn my respect....u the one that when i say something ...u try to be a smart ass and tell me what to do...i am strong willed and u can say what u want....but i am going to do what i want....i am going to spell the way i want too...i am not changing for u or anyone else....this is me....i have an idea how about u dont say anything to me... unless i made a mistake about a comment i made on our team our someone else....lets face it...u dont like me and i dont like u ...so that is best for both of us....

GAMECOCKBOY, first off let me say that I don't care about spelling and such as much as my signature implies, and my signature is not directed to any one person in particular. All I ask is that your posts be readable. To be honest, they've been a lot more readable in the past week or two. I don't know if Doc would still have a problem if they were always readable. Let's not all get into a shouting match over this; especially not on the USC Recruiting News thread. Let's just post information and opinions that can be read by all. I ask that you please continue to post the information you post. The articles you have brought to the site have been worth reading. I just want to ask that the posts you post with your own words will be readable. Thank you.

Carolina Cowboy
07-20-2006, 07:12 AM
I do not care whether you like me or respect me. However, take a look around. You are the only one that writes like that and it is annoying. If you want to be annoying, go right ahead, but I would expect a 21 year old to be a little wiser about his or her environment. I could care less about your "this is me" attitude. One day you will die and the preacher will stand up and say, "you know, there is not a lot I can say about Mr. Gamecockboy, except he sure was annoying." Good luck, sir. :brick:
DP don,t let this pain in the ars get to you. As you know we get a loud mouth like this every year thats why I spend more time at the CockyTalk site now. I think that we need to call the vet and geld this one.-Cowboy

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 07:58 AM
DP don,t let this pain in the ars get to you. As you know we get a loud mouth like this every year thats why I spend more time at the CockyTalk site now. I think that we need to call the vet and geld this one.-Cowboy
why dont u go back to cockytalk where u belong

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 08:00 AM
GAMECOCKBOY, first off let me say that I don't care about spelling and such as much as my signature implies, and my signature is not directed to any one person in particular. All I ask is that your posts be readable. To be honest, they've been a lot more readable in the past week or two. I don't know if Doc would still have a problem if they were always readable. Let's not all get into a shouting match over this; especially not on the USC Recruiting News thread. Let's just post information and opinions that can be read by all. I ask that you please continue to post the information you post. The articles you have brought to the site have been worth reading. I just want to ask that the posts you post with your own words will be readable. Thank you.
i will continue to post...even if i have haters...

SHOCKTOP
07-20-2006, 08:14 AM
i will continue to post...even if i have haters...


I don't think anybody hates you, you post some interesting things and
could be a real plus for this site. It's just that you take offense when
some people ask you to be more polite, is that such a hard thing?

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 08:24 AM
I don't think anybody hates you, you post some interesting things and
could be a real plus for this site. It's just that you take offense when
some people ask you to be more polite, is that such a hard thing?
i take offense when people try to change me...i like writing in lower case letters....this is a message board...i will do what i want how i want too...i will keep posting great recruiting articles..no one is going to tell me how i should be...that is all to it...i am my own man...i am polite if i wasnt i would have cussed a couple of these guys out a long time ago....i stay to myself...they the ones who have to start with me..take that carolina for example...no one was talking to him but he has to but in...i am done talking about this...it has gotten old..moving on i hope we get more good news on some committments...

July 19, 2006
Clemson & USC Still In On McNeil
By Phil Kornblut
Clemson and USC are not among the leaders with DB Michael McNeil (6-3 200) of Mobile, AL right now but both are still working him. "I get a text message from coach Koenning (Clemson) almost every day, " McNeil said. "And I talked to coach Spurrier (USC) about three weeks ago. He invited me in for a game along with my grandad (a former teammate of Spurriers in the NFL)." McNeil has 24 offers and says Alabama, Auburn and Florida State are his three favorites "but I haven't closed any of my recruiting." McNeil said three of his official visits likely would be Alabama, Auburn and Florida State

July 19, 2006
Davis Still Hearing From USC
By Phil Kornblut
WR Roderick Davis (6-0 185) of Memphis says he's getting more mail now from USC than he has before and has exchanged text messages this summer with recruiter Steve Spurrier Jr. Davis says USC has offered along with Texas Tech, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi State, Marshall and Ole Miss. He says his top four are Auburn, Tennessee, Mississippi and Texas Tech. He does not plan a decision until sometime during his season

bigbadbird
07-20-2006, 09:39 AM
dp i dont know what your problem is...but i am 21 years old ....i am grown.. i will do what i want when i want...i only have one mommy and daddy and u r not it....i will spell how i want to...im not here to be your friend...so u can take that to the bank

Maybe grown but not grown up.

TrueGCFan
07-20-2006, 10:13 AM
:nonono: I will be more than happy to start a grammar thread if we want to talk about that. Please keep this thread on recruiting. Thanks. :nonono:

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 10:15 AM
i will continue to post...even if i have haters...

Maybe you misunderstood. I'm not asking for you to stop posting. I'm not even asking you to not type in all lower-case letters. I'm just asking that we be able to read your posts. Some of your posts have been so bad that some people couldn't understand them. We want you here, and we want all Gamecock fans on here to at least respect each other. We'd like to be able to read the posts, too.

pc72687
07-20-2006, 11:54 AM
This sounds like some sick grammar school battle. Everyone spell and write korectly!!! Back to recruiting!!

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 03:39 PM
I've got no recruiting news today. Nothing has happened. With the way things are going lately, I think no news is good news. Travian visits Pickens County A&T tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed. We need this guy.

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 03:59 PM
Actually, I have some news. Remember the defensive lineman who just received an offer from USC and has been committed to Mississippi State? He just visited Carolina. There is no word on anything having to do with the visit, yet. It was a few days ago.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 06:11 PM
Maybe you misunderstood. I'm not asking for you to stop posting. I'm not even asking you to not type in all lower-case letters. I'm just asking that we be able to read your posts. Some of your posts have been so bad that some people couldn't understand them. We want you here, and we want all Gamecock fans on here to at least respect each other. We'd like to be able to read the posts, too.
i dont have a problem with u....the ones i have a problem know who they r....they want me gone but i am not going anywhere.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 06:11 PM
July 20, 2006
Barnes Gets Close Up With USC
By Phil Kornblut
Richland Northeast WR Mark Barnes (6-3 195) has made several unofficial visits to USC in the past year, but Wednesday's visit was unique. "It was the first time actually going over there to sit down and chat with all the coaches," he said. "I met first with coach Spurrier Jr. We always talk about family and football and what's important to us. We went over some film to see where we fit and where we don't fit. After that I met with coach Reaves. We talked a lot about stuff going on right now and a lot about philosophy and about how many balls are being caught. Then I met with coach Spurrier and sat down in his office. We talked about how coaches come at you the right way and the wrong way. We talked about his past and winning a national championship and the types of teams he's had and how he made it especially at Duke. If he can win at Duke, he can win with anybody to me. We talked as if we were basically family. I felt very comfortable there." Barnes will embark Friday on a few more unofficial visits with a trip to Louisville. He also plans to see Georgia Tech, Florida, Florida State, Virginia Tech and LSU. "My leader will come after I take my unofficial visits," he said.

Dr. Pepper
07-20-2006, 06:23 PM
GAMECOCKBOY, first off let me say that I don't care about spelling and such as much as my signature implies, and my signature is not directed to any one person in particular. All I ask is that your posts be readable. To be honest, they've been a lot more readable in the past week or two. I don't know if Doc would still have a problem if they were always readable. Let's not all get into a shouting match over this; especially not on the USC Recruiting News thread. Let's just post information and opinions that can be read by all. I ask that you please continue to post the information you post. The articles you have brought to the site have been worth reading. I just want to ask that the posts you post with your own words will be readable. Thank you.

I am disappointed in you WB. The truth is Gamecockboy does not bring us interesting posts. He cuts and pastes information from Korn and others which is nothing new to this site. It is just that he does it before anyone else does. If he went away, every bit of infomation he posts would show up at some point later in the day. Most of it I had already read on palmettosports anyway.

I agree with those of you who are tired of this, so this is my last post on Gamecockboy. I received a email from a former Ole'Miss poster that I had sent an invitation to come back to this site. The reason stated for his absence was that he was tired of the Administrators not taking action to address what some posters were doing. If noone calls Gamecockboy (and other like him) out, then this site will continue to decline. Personally, I like this site, and I want others to join us - not leave us.

I understand from another member that there is a way that I can prevent Gamecockboy's posts from coming up on my computer. I hope they are right. If they are, he will be history with me.

Thanks to the other posters who spoke up for me on this subject.

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-20-2006, 06:35 PM
Seriously, you have some valid points but couldn't you and gcb have discussed this through pm's or something? You've basically hijacked two pages on what's supposed to be a recruiting thread because you don't like the way some kid posts. Put him on your ignore list and you'll never have to read one of his posts again.

Dr. Pepper
07-20-2006, 06:40 PM
For your information, you can click "Quick links" at the top of the page and the click "edit options". The menu will the have a "buddy/ignore" option under miscellaneous. Click that and you can add anyone to your ignore list. I did it with Gamecockboy and everyone of his posts disappeared.

This is a serious action for me. It is not based on disagreement or, obviously, his choice of team (he is a Gamecock which makes this all the more troubling for me). As most of you know, I love a good debate. However, life is too short to deal with rude people.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 06:58 PM
Actually, I have some news. Remember the defensive lineman who just received an offer from USC and has been committed to Mississippi State? He just visited Carolina. There is no word on anything having to do with the visit, yet. It was a few days ago.
do u have anymore news on him WB...we need a de like him...if i am thinking correctly he is like 6'6 270?...we need some good news..i hope he is a gamecock

scfan5338
07-20-2006, 07:35 PM
do u have anymore news on him WB...we need a de like him...if i am thinking correctly he is like 6'6 270?...we need some good news..i hope he is a gamecock


6'4" 285. rivals has him as a "soft verbal" to MSU. I wouldnt be surpised if Spurrier and company give him full attention, to see him in a gamecock uniform next year.

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 07:45 PM
Well, I just about posted a long post about what direction our DE class may be taking. However, I just realized that Jonathan Williams is listed as a DT. We want to sign two DTs this year, and I'm not against one of them being a JUCO prospect. We need help there now. There still isn't any word on his visit to Carolina, yet.

Here's a question: For anyone who was questioning Gary Gray's character when he decommitted, what will you think of Jonathan Williams if he decommits from Mississippi State and commits to Carolina?

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-20-2006, 08:23 PM
Here's a question: For anyone who was questioning Gary Gray's character when he decommitted, what will you think of Jonathan Williams if he decommits from Mississippi State and commits to Carolina?

Did he hold a press conference and rip off his shirt to reveal an MSU jersey and then state that he was 100% Bulldog?

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 08:56 PM
A commitment is a commitment, right? Fluff or no fluff.

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-20-2006, 09:04 PM
Apples and oranges IMHO.

Williams-Brice
07-20-2006, 09:29 PM
Agreed. I am still somewhat bitter about the entire Gray situation, from him visiting ND all the way down to some fans ripping him. The whole thing just makes me sick from every angle I look at it.

pc72687
07-20-2006, 09:42 PM
I think WB has got it right, what is so different from us changing someone's mind to others changing ours? I think we should consider what we have to offer to be the best, no matter if someone tries to sway them. Either they like what we have to offer or they don't. Hopefully that made sense, I tried to get it on paper but it didn't seem to come out how I felt. Maybe it will make better sense to a third party.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 09:44 PM
Agreed. I am still somewhat bitter about the entire Gray situation, from him visiting ND all the way down to some fans ripping him. The whole thing just makes me sick from every angle I look at it.
so true...i totally agree..everything will work itself out only a matter of time...football is coming...

GAMECOCKBOY
07-20-2006, 09:45 PM
July 20, 2006
USC & CU Still Working Florida LB
By Phil Kornblut
USC and Clemson are among the offers for LB Deshawn Barnes (6-2 190) of Tallahassee and both were in touch this week. He received a text message from Gamecock recruiter Dave Wommack and talked with Tiger recruiter Dabo Swinney. Both recruiters have some work to do. Barnes says his current top five are Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Florida and UCLA. He has not taken any visits this summer and won't. And he won't make a decision until after the season and after he takes some official visits. He does not have a favorite.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-21-2006, 07:04 AM
July 20, 2006
Union Lineman Likes USC
By Phil Kornblut
Union DL Devon Thompson (6-2 275) has not picked up any offers thus far but says USC has been showing the most interest and he likes the Gamecocks the most. "I'm getting some text messages from coach Nix," he said. Thompson camped at USC and attended the Nike camp at Clemson. He is also getting some interest from Middle Tennessee State.


July 20, 2006
USC Checking Florida TE
By Phil Kornblut
TE A.J. Thompson (6-4 240) of Ft. Lauderdale attended camp at USC this summer. The Gamecocks have not offered but he has been in touch with recruiter Robert Gillespie. Thompson has offers from Florida International, Florida Atlantic, Central Florida, South Florida, Illinois, Rutgers, Western Michigan, Connecticut and Temple. He's also getting strong interest from Auburn and is hopeful of an offer from the Tigers. Thompson has also been hearing from Maryland, Boston College, Florida State, NC State and Georgia Tech. Last season Thompson had 18 catches for 326 yards and 1 touchdown.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 08:29 AM
I don't see us landing a TE in this class. We may end up signing 6 receivers. We aren't going to sign one just for the sake of adding depth. If the staff had to pick 6 receivers from the ones they've offered or 5 receivers and a tight end, then they'd go with 6 receivers. I don't see A.J. Thompson getting an offer.

palmettocock
07-21-2006, 08:35 AM
I don't see us landing a TE in this class. We may end up signing 6 receivers. We aren't going to sign one just for the sake of adding depth. If the staff had to pick 6 receivers from the ones they've offered or 5 receivers and a tight end, then they'd go with 6 receivers. I don't see A.J. Thompson getting an offer.

I'm kind of clueless when it comes to our TE situation, but I would figure we would need a TE. It seems like we only sign a TE once in a blue moon. I know Jared Cook will be hell for D coordinators, but do we have depth at all at that position? At WR, we still have a lot of good young players like Freddie Brown, Moe Brown, etc....will we really need 6 WR's in this class?

pc72687
07-21-2006, 10:32 AM
We still need some more big play threats. Some of our big recruits of past have yet to fulfill there hype. Others went over and beyond.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-21-2006, 11:49 AM
I'm kind of clueless when it comes to our TE situation, but I would figure we would need a TE. It seems like we only sign a TE once in a blue moon. I know Jared Cook will be hell for D coordinators, but do we have depth at all at that position? At WR, we still have a lot of good young players like Freddie Brown, Moe Brown, etc....will we really need 6 WR's in this class?
we need to be deeper at wr...consider after this year 3 of our wrs might be gone....with whiteside,newton (gone )and sidney (maybe gone)..i hope to see more wrs step it up like murdock, and freddie....

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 12:44 PM
I hate to say this because many of you won't like it. Our staff is selling our recruits by telling them Sidney will leave for the NFL after this season. We have to be prepared for it, even though I'm sure the coaches even seriously doubt it will happen. Sidney claims he will stay at least through his junior year, but when he said that, he didn't have millions of dollars being thrown at him. We don't know what's going to happen. If we want Sidney to stay, then the emergence of other receiving threats has to happen.

We do not have great quality depth at this position. WR is a huge selling point in a SOS offense regardless, and the lack of depth helps.

Do we need a TE in this class? The simple answer is 'yes'. However, we are not going to be able to bring in a full class this year. I see us signing 18, MAYBE 20. With such a limited number of scholarships to offer, there is no way SOS will bring in a kid unless he is a playmaker. We will not sign a TE for the sake of needing to sign a TE. If the right one falls into our laps, then we may do it, but it doesn't look like that will happen.

We received great production from Carson Askins last fall, considering he was a walk-on. Jared Cook is going to explode this year. We have our TE for the next four years, and getting one in this class is not as important as it may seem.

scfan5338
07-21-2006, 01:36 PM
Foxy Foxworth is also another TE that is going to be a walk-on this year. He should be pretty good for us. I agree we are set with Cook, Askins, and Foxworth. Unless this guy is really really good and SOS see's a lot of potential I dont think we are going to offer any tight ends.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 01:40 PM
Askins is no longer on the team. He graduated and has enrolled in law school, but your point is well taken.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 03:14 PM
Travian's visit to Clemson reportedly "could not be going any better than it is right now".

Ugh.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 03:17 PM
GamecockBoy, I beat you to a Kornblut article. Where are you today? We've got good news!

July 21, 2006
Hemingway To See USC Tuesday
By Phil Kornblut
WR Junior Hemingway (6-2 205) on Conway will make an unofficial visit to USC Tuesday to meet with Gamecock coaches and tour the campus. While he's been to games at USC, Hemingway says he's never been on the actual campus. "I hope they show me how everything is," he said. "I just want them to show me around." Hemingway recently made visits to Florida and Miami. He's also visited Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan this summer. "All the schools are nice," he said. "Right now I couldn't pick one over the other." Hemingway said he does have a top five right now of Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida and Miami. He said USC will get its chance to move in to that group on Tuesday. He is planning to make a decision before his season.

JCisLord
07-21-2006, 03:42 PM
Hey, I'm confused. I know the whole deal with Gray and all, but Rivals has USC listed high, and ND listed Med. Is he backing off of them. I wish he would recommit. The guy is an athelete and seems pretty cool too.

larryt4111
07-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Under SOS you can NEVER [repeat] NEVER have too many wr's. You have to remember that the system is set up to throw the ball to the ALWAYS open man. Just how many teams can put 2 on 1 in coverage and get away with it?

With a 1 back set and 5 receivers all speedy and with good hands I know there will be hell to pay if someone is doubled up on if we have a QB who reads the D.

YOU GUYS HAVE TO REMEMBER … It’s SOS in charge of the passing game not LOU!

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 04:12 PM
We still lead for Gray, and he has said that in his interviews. That's why the interest for USC is high.

Carolina Cowboy
07-21-2006, 05:51 PM
I just read this.



I was just told that he committed to the clempson coaches.

He'll announce next Thursday. Oh well. Have fun riding the pine for the next 3 or so years is about all I can say now. Because if in fact true, he's now the enemy.
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Carolina Cowboy
07-21-2006, 06:02 PM
WB what do you think about Garcia going to friday night lights? This is his fourth or fifth visit to florida.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-21-2006, 06:14 PM
I AM NOT happy at all..one bright thing is we want players who want to be here...if robertson doesnt wanna be here then go to clemson...i cant wait for us to start beating clemson and all the other big boys

July 21, 2006
Clemson To The Front With Robertson
By Phil Kornblut
DE Travian Robertson (6-4 230) of Laurinburg, NC made a second unofficial visit to Clemson Friday, this time primarily to meet with Tiger head coach Tommy Bowden whom he did not meet the first time. And with his decision down to Clemson and USC, Robertson said the Tigers are on top. "I'm liking Clemson a lot more than any other school, they lead," Robertson said. Robertson said he went on a tour of the campus again and saw the West End Zone project. He also talked to a few players. But the objective of the trip was to talk face to face with Bowden. "I wanted to meet him," he said. "I saw everything last trip. I wanted to get to know him a little better. He's a good person. I like him. This is it. I'm going to make my decision next week, probably Thursday." Robertson said he will meet with his family and his coach over the next few days to discuss the decision and set up plans for his announcement.

July 21, 2006
Barnes Chooses Team Over Trip
By Phil Kornblut
Forced to make a decision between playing with his Richland Northeast team in a seven on seven tournament Saturday at Airport or making an unofficial visit to Louisville, WR Mark Barnes (6-3 195) has decided to stick with his boys. Barnes had planned to visit Louisville Friday but the timing couldn't be worked out to get him back in time for the passing league tournament. So Barnes decided to scratch that visit for now. He does plan to get in unofficial visits to Louisville, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech and USC before August 18th. And Barnes has decided on two of his official visits for the fall...LSU and Southern Cal. Barnes made an unofficial visit to USC earlier this week.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-21-2006, 06:23 PM
GamecockBoy, I beat you to a Kornblut article. Where are you today? We've got good news!

July 21, 2006
Hemingway To See USC Tuesday
By Phil Kornblut
WR Junior Hemingway (6-2 205) on Conway will make an unofficial visit to USC Tuesday to meet with Gamecock coaches and tour the campus. While he's been to games at USC, Hemingway says he's never been on the actual campus. "I hope they show me how everything is," he said. "I just want them to show me around." Hemingway recently made visits to Florida and Miami. He's also visited Notre Dame, Ohio State and Michigan this summer. "All the schools are nice," he said. "Right now I couldn't pick one over the other." Hemingway said he does have a top five right now of Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Florida and Miami. He said USC will get its chance to move in to that group on Tuesday. He is planning to make a decision before his season.

lol wb u beat me ...i was napping

scfan5338
07-21-2006, 07:07 PM
I hate this. Every year Clemson steals a player or two from us. Because they beat us every year they have the upper notch at that. But there stadium is really coming together and from what I've read their facilities are really good. We really need to start upgrading ours because that is what is bringing us down every single year. Clemson is loaded in this year's class already and they aren't slowing now. I dont know the exact number but they have like 13 commitments or something and like 11 of them are 4 stars and 1- 5 star. This really sucks. We need to get some commitments.

This happens to us every year. We lose recruits early in the summer and we can never really catch up. We have to get guys early in the year. Look at Clemson, ND, Texas, Alabama, Florida. Spurrier's gotta work his magic. I still have hope in Spurrier and that he will bring in some GOOD DEFENSIVE guys. Everyone always talks about ohh we are going to bring in 6 WR's and what not. What about defense yall? He signs big offensive guys but defense is what wins championships and we need to sign good defensive players.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 07:36 PM
WB what do you think about Garcia going to friday night lights? This is his fourth or fifth visit to florida.

He's not going. Florida pulled Garcia's offer to their Friday Night Lights Camp. I wonder if they'll rethink it. Their number one QB target, Tyrod Taylor, just committed to Va Tech.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 07:36 PM
lol wb u beat me ...i was napping

What is a nap?

GAMECOCKBOY
07-21-2006, 07:40 PM
I hate this. Every year Clemson steals a player or two from us. Because they beat us every year they have the upper notch at that. But there stadium is really coming together and from what I've read their facilities are really good. We really need to start upgrading ours because that is what is bringing us down every single year. Clemson is loaded in this year's class already and they aren't slowing now. I dont know the exact number but they have like 13 commitments or something and like 11 of them are 4 stars and 1- 5 star. This really sucks. We need to get some commitments.

This happens to us every year. We lose recruits early in the summer and we can never really catch up. We have to get guys early in the year. Look at Clemson, ND, Texas, Alabama, Florida. Spurrier's gotta work his magic. I still have hope in Spurrier and that he will bring in some GOOD DEFENSIVE guys. Everyone always talks about ohh we are going to bring in 6 WR's and what not. What about defense yall? He signs big offensive guys but defense is what wins championships and we need to sign good defensive players.

clemson is building good facilitles,but if the best they can do is win 7 or 8 games this year that isnt saying much...we need to start on our facilites....i totally agree,we need more studs on defense.....i wanna see some mean nasty de, and lbs...i wanna see us have a defense with a nasty attitude and take no prisoners...i am ready for some footballl

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 07:42 PM
I hate this. Every year Clemson steals a player or two from us. Because they beat us every year they have the upper notch at that. But there stadium is really coming together and from what I've read their facilities are really good. We really need to start upgrading ours because that is what is bringing us down every single year. Clemson is loaded in this year's class already and they aren't slowing now. I dont know the exact number but they have like 13 commitments or something and like 11 of them are 4 stars and 1- 5 star. This really sucks. We need to get some commitments.

This happens to us every year. We lose recruits early in the summer and we can never really catch up. We have to get guys early in the year. Look at Clemson, ND, Texas, Alabama, Florida. Spurrier's gotta work his magic. I still have hope in Spurrier and that he will bring in some GOOD DEFENSIVE guys. Everyone always talks about ohh we are going to bring in 6 WR's and what not. What about defense yall? He signs big offensive guys but defense is what wins championships and we need to sign good defensive players.

Let's just calm down. It's going to be okay. If Travian doesn't want to be here, then there is nothing we can do. Brad Lawing recruited the crap out of Travian for two years. Sometimes you can't do anything more than what you have already done.

Plus, it's friggin' July. I'm as guilty as anyone else keeping up with recruiting, but recruiting classes aren't built in July. They are built in February. We're going to be okay. We have several other DE prospects on the board, including three more 4-star guys. We'll be okay.

Also, Clemson has 11 total commitments. One 5-star, four 4-star, and six 3-star. It's not as drastic as some are making it out to be. I can't stress enough that we are going to be okay. I can also assure that Brad Lawing is not going to quit on this kid. I promise you that if Gary Gray can open his recruitment back up, then there is a possibility for any prospect to do the same.

We're going to be okay!

Avoid the rush and START HATING CLEMSON NOW!

cocky4ever
07-21-2006, 08:20 PM
Let's just calm down. It's going to be okay. If Travian doesn't want to be here, then there is nothing we can do. Brad Lawing recruited the crap out of Travian for two years. Sometimes you can't do anything more than what you have already done.

Plus, it's friggin' July. I'm as guilty as anyone else keeping up with recruiting, but recruiting classes aren't built in July. They are built in February. We're going to be okay. We have several other DE prospects on the board, including three more 4-star guys. We'll be okay.

Also, Clemson has 11 total commitments. One 5-star, four 4-star, and six 3-star. It's not as drastic as some are making it out to be. I can't stress enough that we are going to be okay. I can also assure that Brad Lawing is not going to quit on this kid. I promise you that if Gary Gray can open his recruitment back up, then there is a possibility for any prospect to do the same.

We're going to be okay!

Avoid the rush and START HATING CLEMSON NOW!

Dont worry about him. SCfan has always been obsessed with chumpson.

rabidcock
07-21-2006, 08:21 PM
Avoid the rush and START HATING CLEMSON NOW!

Hating Clemson is a rush. :tongue:

Carolina Cowboy
07-21-2006, 08:24 PM
He's not going. Florida pulled Garcia's offer to their Friday Night Lights Camp. I wonder if they'll rethink it. Their number one QB target, Tyrod Taylor, just committed to Va Tech.
From my understanding he is not dressed but he is on the side lines. Urban probably called him last night or this morning. He did not dress because of the elite 11 camp.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 09:12 PM
From my understanding he is not dressed but he is on the side lines. Urban probably called him last night or this morning. He did not dress because of the elite 11 camp.

Where did you get the information? I don't doubt that he's there, but he is not going to end up at Florida unless something crazy happens.

scfan5338
07-21-2006, 09:20 PM
Dont worry about him. SCfan has always been obsessed with chumpson.

I was reading Korn's website, which always talks about clemson sign this and that, so I was just stating that. And we have to talk about chumpson cause this year it seems like every player we want, Clemson does too and they are getting more of them. I dont know how many times I gotta tell you before you get it through your stupid head, I'm not a clemson fan.

cocky4ever
07-21-2006, 09:23 PM
I was reading Korn's website, which always talks about clemson sign this and that, so I was just stating that. And we have to talk about chumpson cause this year it seems like every player we want, Clemson does too and they are getting more of them. I dont know how many times I gotta tell you before you get it through your stupid head, I'm not a clemson fan.
I know you're not a chumpson fan...but you always compare us to them and talk about their success and how they always do better than we do. Your not a clemson fan, you're a SC fan who talks about clemson a lot.

Williams-Brice
07-21-2006, 10:32 PM
And we have to talk about chumpson cause this year it seems like every player we want, Clemson does too and they are getting more of them.

Actually, if you look at the players we wanted and they got versus the players they wanted and we got, then we are even. We wanted Gilchrist, Cooper, and (if he goes to CU) Robertson BADLY. They wanted Gray, Richardson, and Maddox BADLY. Head to head, it's even. Based on total numbers, they have us. However, we haven't gone after more than half of their class.

You know who Clemson has left on their board with a high amount of interest? Travian Robertson, a 3-star offensive lineman, and four players without a ranking. As far as 4-star or 5-star guys are concerned, we are going to land Gray, Garcia, Lecorn, Barnes, Dunlap, potentially Cortez Myles, etc.

We'll see where the South Carolina-Pickens County A&T battle on the recruiting front is in February. That's when I'll point out a winner. In the end, I have no doubt it will be us.

Go freakin' Gamecocks.

By the way, what the crap can Brad Scott possibly be saying to these recruits to turn them away from Carolina? Man, look what a great job I did RUNNING THAT PROGRAM INTO THE GROUND! I did such a great job, the best coach in America is still having to pay the price! Come play for me, and you can have all of the Heinz 57 ketchup you want!

If I had one fellow American I could hurt without having any consequences brought upon me, then it would be Fat Brad.

Dr. Pepper
07-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Actually, if you look at the players we wanted and they got versus the players they wanted and we got, then we are even. We wanted Gilchrist, Cooper, and (if he goes to CU) Robertson BADLY. They wanted Gray, Richardson, and Maddox BADLY. Head to head, it's even. Based on total numbers, they have us. However, we haven't gone after more than half of their class.

You know who Clemson has left on their board with a high amount of interest? Travian Robertson, a 3-star offensive lineman, and four players without a ranking. As far as 4-star or 5-star guys are concerned, we are going to land Gray, Garcia, Lecorn, Barnes, Dunlap, potentially Cortez Myles, etc.

We'll see where the South Carolina-Pickens County A&T battle on the recruiting front is in February. That's when I'll point out a winner. In the end, I have no doubt it will be us.

Go freakin' Gamecocks.

By the way, what the crap can Brad Scott possibly be saying to these recruits to turn them away from Carolina? Man, look what a great job I did RUNNING THAT PROGRAM INTO THE GROUND! I did such a great job, the best coach in America is still having to pay the price! Come play for me, and you can have all of the Heinz 57 ketchup you want!

If I had one fellow American I could hurt without having any consequences brought upon me, then it would be Fat Brad.

I have tried to give you some rep points, WB, but the site will not let me. It says that I have to spread my rep points around. I have given a couple of guys a positive vote, but there have not been too many that earn it from me. All the whining about who Clemson is getting is ridiculous. All the whining about Gray is ridiculous as well.

You are right. Success for a recruiting class is determined in February. These guys will commit, de-commit, and re-commit. Until they sign on the dotted line, their verbal promises mean nothing. Spurrier will have an amazing class in February.

Dr. Pepper
07-21-2006, 11:17 PM
Under SOS you can NEVER [repeat] NEVER have too many wr's. You have to remember that the system is set up to throw the ball to the ALWAYS open man. Just how many teams can put 2 on 1 in coverage and get away with it?

With a 1 back set and 5 receivers all speedy and with good hands I know there will be hell to pay if someone is doubled up on if we have a QB who reads the D.

YOU GUYS HAVE TO REMEMBER … It’s SOS in charge of the passing game not LOU!

Someone has already pointed out that Spurrier is about 50/50 pass and run. I used to think the same as you larry, but the truth is, you win with a balanced attack.

Dr. Pepper
07-21-2006, 11:24 PM
I hate this. Every year Clemson steals a player or two from us. Because they beat us every year they have the upper notch at that. But there stadium is really coming together and from what I've read their facilities are really good. We really need to start upgrading ours because that is what is bringing us down every single year. Clemson is loaded in this year's class already and they aren't slowing now. I dont know the exact number but they have like 13 commitments or something and like 11 of them are 4 stars and 1- 5 star. This really sucks. We need to get some commitments.

This happens to us every year. We lose recruits early in the summer and we can never really catch up. We have to get guys early in the year. Look at Clemson, ND, Texas, Alabama, Florida. Spurrier's gotta work his magic. I still have hope in Spurrier and that he will bring in some GOOD DEFENSIVE guys. Everyone always talks about ohh we are going to bring in 6 WR's and what not. What about defense yall? He signs big offensive guys but defense is what wins championships and we need to sign good defensive players.

You have bought into an old wives tale. No coach really believes that you win with defense. They say so for the papers, but having a well oiled offensive machine is what is needed. The name of the game is to put points on the scoreboard.

The truth is, you win with the guys in the trenches. Nothing proves that more than the Independence Bowl. We did great in the beginning, but our guys were not deep, and when a couple of guys got knocked out late in the first half, we did not stand a chance.

From what I hear on another thread, our linemen are beefing up. This is good news. If they are doing what they need to do, then the hole opens a little wider for the running back or Mitchell has an extra second or two to let the play develop.

The line - that is where championships are won.

Carolina Cowboy
07-22-2006, 05:58 AM
Where did you get the information? I don't doubt that he's there, but he is not going to end up at Florida unless something crazy happens. gatorbait.net reported that last night.

Williams-Brice
07-22-2006, 08:30 AM
Yeah, I just read the article. No big news other than he was there. He's now on his way to California.

larryt4111
07-22-2006, 11:35 AM
Someone has already pointed out that Spurrier is about 50/50 pass and run. I used to think the same as you larry, but the truth is, you win with a balanced attack.

You missed the point, let me make it CLEARER. [ look at the old Fla game tapes] SOS's system has always depended on alot of fast good hands receivers to riddle the D and open up the running game. At USC last year you didn't see much of the true SOS system, because of several factors. Among them a lack of depth at receiver positions, an inexperienced QB in a new system, depleted O line, Rb's that couldn't stumble forward enough to make the top 100 rushing teams. The old SOS bread and butter play that he has stung everyone with for year’s -fake to the RB and then toss it to him over the middle was almost never used. WHY? because the lack of quality receivers to threaten the D from sideline to sideline as he did so many many times over the yrs at Fla.
I am a transplanted FORMER GATOR, and have watched his magic since he was in college.
I said all along it would take 3-4 yrs to get the talent to see his system flourish. He got some speed in yr1 and is getting beef in yr2, year 3 and beyond is about filling the holes to make the system smooth.

I expect that this year he'll bring out a few more plays from the old SOS play library and may draw some up In the dirt of the practice field, and you'll see the ball tossed more and more, but SIDNEY won't be the only target as he was all of last year. At Fla you never knew where the ball was going, except for the fact that it was going downfield and someone with speed and good hands was going to be in the RIGHT SPOT to catch it. At USC we haven't seen that yet, but it's coming SOON!
Sorry about the ramble !

Dr Pepper,
YOU SEEM TO BE ANNOYED BY OTHER POSTERS RATHER EASILY.
AND ALSO SEEN TO GET A KICK OUT OF CORRECTING PEOPLE.
HAVE A GOOD DAY, :happy:

GatorHunter
07-22-2006, 12:40 PM
He's not going. Florida pulled Garcia's offer to their Friday Night Lights Camp. I wonder if they'll rethink it. Their number one QB target, Tyrod Taylor, just committed to Va Tech.

Garcia decided to "attend" FNL on Wednesday....before Taylor committed to V-Tech...I was hoping Taylor would visit UF before pullin' the trigger...but his family and coach explained that he didn't want be far from home...

Now to Garcia...he showed up, didn't dress out...that lasted for about 2 minutes....Garcia went up to Coach Meyer and asked if he could participate...a few minutes later, he was dressed-out and throwing to the top receivers in the country....talk about a bunch of talent...129 prospects from all over the country....40 players that were tops in each of their respect positions...from what I've heard...everyone had a great time.

I've watched some video from the camp...Garcia is a stud...he has it all, footwork, and a cannon for an arm...although, there was another QB there that was bigger and equally as impressive...can't remember his name right now...Garcia spent a lot of time with Meyer and our OC....he stayed for the entire event. Don't know if this changes anything...but it's nice that, even though he didn't have an "official" invite, he came anyway and worked out.

Williams-Brice
07-22-2006, 01:28 PM
I've watched some video from the camp...Garcia is a stud...he has it all, footwork, and a cannon for an arm...although, there was another QB there that was bigger and equally as impressive...can't remember his name right now...Garcia spent a lot of time with Meyer and our OC....he stayed for the entire event. Don't know if this changes anything...but it's nice that, even though he didn't have an "official" invite, he came anyway and worked out.

I read the same article. You are talking about Cam Newton from Atlanta.

This could end up being a dog fight to get Garcia.

Williams-Brice
07-22-2006, 01:33 PM
Dr Pepper,
YOU SEEM TO BE ANNOYED BY OTHER POSTERS RATHER EASILY.
QUOTE]

He may get annoyed sometimes, but the post you are referencing doesn't show that. He was stating his observations of Spurrier's system, which are obviously going to be different than your's because you watch him all the time at Florida.

[QUOTE-larryt4111]
AND ALSO SEEN TO GET A KICK OUT OF CORRECTING PEOPLE.

Well, isn't that what you just did with your post? Don't come down on someone for correcting someone if you are going to do the same thing.

scfan5338
07-22-2006, 01:50 PM
The line - that is where championships are won.

How did Texas get the ball in the last minutes to win the championship? from their defense. Their defense stopped bush, leinart, and company. The lines are very important I agree, but defense is where you win championship. Look at the Steelers, Patriots, LSU couple of years ago, Oklahoma, USC (fake one), Miami Hurricanes. Defense is where everything is done. Look at the Indy Colts. They have tremendous Offensive and Defensive lines, but hell they cant make it pass the AFC championship game. When they went to the super bowl they had great lines but their defense at best was mediocre.

scfan5338
07-22-2006, 02:19 PM
This is about recruting but some awesome South Carolina and Sidney Rice wallpapers. Thought maybe some of you might enjoy them.


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gamecockcentral.com/images/wallpaper/rice/1024x768.jpg&imgrefurl=http://southcarolina.rivals.com/content.asp%3FCID%3D519169&h=768&w=1024&sz=242&hl=en&start=12&tbnid=E6pPTX_wk7-zqM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsidney%2Brice%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den% 26lr%3D

Sidney Rice: http://southcarolina.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1017&CID=543230

Williams-Brice
07-22-2006, 03:07 PM
Look at the Indy Colts. They have tremendous Offensive and Defensive lines, but hell they cant make it pass the AFC championship game. When they went to the super bowl they had great lines but their defense at best was mediocre.

I know it's off topic, but Indy hasn't made it to a Super Bowl because Peyton Manning can't win in the playoffs. He's the most overrated quarterback in the leauge. You can throw all the touchdowns you want, but if you can't throw them when the game is on the line or, in particular, in the playoffs, then it doesn't matter. The Colts had a good enough defense to win last year, but when the most accurate passer in the leauge starts overthrowing guys by 20 yards when the game is on the line, it tells you something.

Peyton Manning: 3-6 in the playoffs; no AFC Championships
Tom Brady: 10-1 in the playoffs; 3 rings

I'll take the rings over stats.

Sorry, back to recruiting.

larryt4111
07-22-2006, 04:27 PM
Carolina Announces Pre-Season Practice Schedule
I hope this link works, if not it's on the Carolina's Athletic web site

http://uscsports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/072106aad.html

SPURED
07-22-2006, 05:34 PM
I know it's off topic, but Indy hasn't made it to a Super Bowl because Peyton Manning can't win in the playoffs. He's the most overrated quarterback in the leauge. You can throw all the touchdowns you want, but if you can't throw them when the game is on the line or, in particular, in the playoffs, then it doesn't matter. The Colts had a good enough defense to win last year, but when the most accurate passer in the leauge starts overthrowing guys by 20 yards when the game is on the line, it tells you something.

Peyton Manning: 3-6 in the playoffs; no AFC Championships
Tom Brady: 10-1 in the playoffs; 3 rings

I'll take the rings over stats.

Sorry, back to recruiting.
Yeah but he is the best QB for Fantasy football!! thats all that matters right?
:laugh:

Williams-Brice
07-22-2006, 05:54 PM
AHHHH yes, I can't wait for my draft.

Dr. Pepper
07-23-2006, 05:51 AM
You missed the point, let me make it CLEARER. [ look at the old Fla game tapes] SOS's system has always depended on alot of fast good hands receivers to riddle the D and open up the running game. At USC last year you didn't see much of the true SOS system, because of several factors. Among them a lack of depth at receiver positions, an inexperienced QB in a new system, depleted O line, Rb's that couldn't stumble forward enough to make the top 100 rushing teams. The old SOS bread and butter play that he has stung everyone with for year’s -fake to the RB and then toss it to him over the middle was almost never used. WHY? because the lack of quality receivers to threaten the D from sideline to sideline as he did so many many times over the yrs at Fla.
I am a transplanted FORMER GATOR, and have watched his magic since he was in college.
I said all along it would take 3-4 yrs to get the talent to see his system flourish. He got some speed in yr1 and is getting beef in yr2, year 3 and beyond is about filling the holes to make the system smooth.

I expect that this year he'll bring out a few more plays from the old SOS play library and may draw some up In the dirt of the practice field, and you'll see the ball tossed more and more, but SIDNEY won't be the only target as he was all of last year. At Fla you never knew where the ball was going, except for the fact that it was going downfield and someone with speed and good hands was going to be in the RIGHT SPOT to catch it. At USC we haven't seen that yet, but it's coming SOON!
Sorry about the ramble !

Dr Pepper,
YOU SEEM TO BE ANNOYED BY OTHER POSTERS RATHER EASILY.
AND ALSO SEEN TO GET A KICK OUT OF CORRECTING PEOPLE.
HAVE A GOOD DAY, :happy:

I was not annoyed with you. I was just commenting that
Spurrier runs a more balanced attack than it appears. I think maybe my annoyance posts towards another poster has tarnished my reputation. What I was referring to was that last year at this time (before the season) I was saying that Spurrier was going to wear the defensive backs down by sending a WR deep, replacing him with another WR to go deep, and then sending the first WR back into the game after he caught his breath. I was thinking that because he was loading the stables with speedy WR's.

Now, I know differently, but I was even more surprised when the other poster pointed out that he is about 50/50. With the added beef, we should see a much improved team this year. I also agree that we are a couple of years away from having the depth we need to establish us a a powerhouse in the nation. I am one of those who see 9 wins this year, and I don't think that I will be disappointed.

By the way, you will know it if I am annoyed. Disagreement does not equal annoyment. I am not annoyed by differences of opinion, just by disrespectfulness.

Dr. Pepper
07-23-2006, 05:57 AM
Yeah but he is the best QB for Fantasy football!! thats all that matters right?
:laugh:

I like his commercials.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-23-2006, 10:40 PM
well like i said a few days ago he is with us or against us...well congrads u r against us...cant wait to play against u or those taters...lets the taters get the spotlight...as usual in the end we will get the spotlight

July 23, 2006
Robertson Headed To Clemson
By Phil Kornblut
His official announcement won't be made until a news conference at his school at 5:00 PM Thursday, but DE Travian Robertson (6-4 230) of Laurinburg, NC said Sunday night his decision is basically made and he's most likely headed to the South Carolina upstate. "I'm pretty sure it's going to be Clemson," Robertson said adding that on a scale of one to five, with five being large, Clemson's lead on USC is a five. "It's just the environment and the coaches. They have everying I think I need. Watching the defense on film, I think I will fit in well with their defense. It's the same way we use the defensive ends in high school, so I'm use to it." Robertson said he talked to USC recruiter Brad Lawing Sunday night and told him of his feelings and his plans to commit to Clemson.


July 23, 2006
USC, CU Like NC D-Lineman
By Phil Kornblut
DL Kyle Linney (6-3 275) of Taylorsville, NC has offers from USC, NC State and East Carolina while Clemson and North Carolina are also showing interest. "I'm a slight lean to NC State but I'm still mostly open," Linney said. "I want to make my decision during the season after I take in some games." Linney has not attended any camps or made any unofficial visits this summer. He said he hopes to take a visit to Clemson within a couple of weeks and USC has invited him in for a visit as well. He said most of his contact from his USC and Clemson recrutiers has gone through his coach.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-23-2006, 11:26 PM
well finally some good news i can report on....

July 23, 2006
USC Out Front With Mississippi Star
By Phil Kornblut
DE Cortez Myles (6-3 250) of Madison, MS said Sunday night he favors USC over several other major offers and is thinking about making a commitment before his season. "They are knocking on my door," Myles said of the Gamecocks. "We (recruiter Robert Gillespie) talk every day and they want me really bad." Myles did not attend any camps this summer nor make any unofficial visits. He said he will try to get to Columbia before the season. USC leads his top four with Auburn, LSU and Florida also in the mix. He also has offers from Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Memphis, Florida State, Georgia, Southern Miss and Tennessee. Last season Myles had 48 tackles and 3 sacks. He can also play outside linebacker.

DELTOR
07-23-2006, 11:49 PM
That's VERY good news on Myles

Williams-Brice
07-24-2006, 06:18 AM
See! All is not lost at the DE position.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-24-2006, 07:20 AM
See! All is not lost at the DE position.
now we have to get him signed

pc72687
07-24-2006, 12:57 PM
I haven't heard much about Myles.

Williams-Brice
07-24-2006, 01:39 PM
You probably haven't heard much about him because we have all, myself included, been so obsessed with the Cliff Matthews and Travian Robertson sagas. Myles is a 4-star DE with offers from Auburn, South Carolina, Florida, Memphis, Ole Miss, Southern Miss, and Mississippi State, who is still a gimmie.

GAMECOCKBOY
07-24-2006, 02:44 PM
You probably haven't heard much about him because we have all, myself included, been so obsessed with the Cliff Matthews and Travian Robertson sagas. Myles is a 4-star DE with offers from Auburn, South Carolina, Florida, Memphis, Ole Miss, Southern Miss, and Mississippi State, who is still a gimmie.
myles was one of my first i was focused on...the funny part is i was looking at him lastnite, on scout saying i hope we get him...then i go on phils site and see he has us number one..

DELTOR
07-24-2006, 03:44 PM
Anyone see the news on Antonio Allen and Dion Lecorn? Allen has us as high on his interest list, and said a commitment is possible when he goes to visit USC. Lecorn has us and florida atop his list. These guys are teammates. Anyone see these guys both committing to the same school.... at the same time? That'd be great!!!!!

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-24-2006, 04:03 PM
They are both supposed to be on campus later this week. I think thursday is the day they're coming. They are going to get the whole treatment from our staff. Coach Spurrier is going to meet personally with both of them. We have Junior Hemingway coming tomorrow. I know Hemingway is a long shot, but I know through some people who know Hemingway's family that his dad really wants him to go to USC.

Mr._Mojo_Rising
07-24-2006, 04:06 PM
I know mostly Gamecocks read this thread so I wanted to s