View Full Version : A Letter To Lou Holtz
SCTAO
11-13-2004, 10:42 PM
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I don't think any coach, including Steve Spurrier can win at SC, in football anyways, I think we should switch or focus to Basketball and baseball, two sports which we can succeed at.....
Payindews
12-16-2004, 09:06 PM
I do believe SC can and will have a winning program. I don't expect it to happen overnight, however the faith will grow and winning will become anticipated rather than hope.
I do believe SC can and will have a winning program. I don't expect it to happen overnight, however the faith will grow and winning will become anticipated rather than hope.
I think that Mr. Spurrier will have success here. I have to agree with the "PTI" guys on ESPN. They say South Carolina will run for the National Championship within 5 years.
For instance, look at the talent already available. No rebuilding. Just pure talent. He has more talent now than his 1st year at Florida.
Payindews
12-16-2004, 09:21 PM
Do you think that the 12-20 record he had in the NFL made him a better coach or a worse coach?
I know that some may say the experience he had with the Redskins could only add to his knowledge.
What do yall think?
Do you think that the 12-20 record he had in the NFL made him a better coach or a worse coach?
I know that some may say the experience he had with the Redskins could only add to his knowledge.
What do yall think?
I agree. The college and pro game are two totally different beasts! He may bring some NFL stuff to USC.
Like I said before, if you go back to NFL records, Spurrier had a better 2 year record in the NFL than...
Bill Parcells
Bill Belecheck
Joe Gibbs
Bill Walsh
I could have found more, I just didn't feel like looking. heh heh
Hardie
12-17-2004, 06:02 AM
I think his NFL experience will be a positive thing for him. It kinda humbled him in my opinion. It showed him he wasnt to good to lose and not be successful. I think he is going to take that and what he learned from it and become a better coach and make better decisions especially in times where his team is blowing someone out.
I think his NFL experience will be a positive thing for him. It kinda humbled him in my opinion. It showed him he wasnt to good to lose and not be successful. I think he is going to take that and what he learned from it and become a better coach and make better decisions especially in times where his team is blowing someone out.
I disagree with only part of that. I think that if Mr. Spurrier has the chance, he's going to run the score up so high, they will have to add a 3rd digit to the scoreboard. LOL! :p
(UGA, Florida and Tennessee mainly)
rabidcock
12-17-2004, 06:18 AM
[QUOTE=DeLoreanfan1]I disagree with only part of that. I think that if Mr. Spurrier has the chance, he's going to run the score up so high, they will have to add a 3rd digit to the scoreboard. LOL! :p
OMIGOD! You mean there's not ALREADY a third digit?!
[QUOTE=DeLoreanfan1]I disagree with only part of that. I think that if Mr. Spurrier has the chance, he's going to run the score up so high, they will have to add a 3rd digit to the scoreboard. LOL! :p
OMIGOD! You mean there's not ALREADY a third digit?!
LOL!!! :D :p :D :p :D :p
Hardie
12-17-2004, 06:22 AM
LOL well hes shown in the past hes not afraid to do that lol I mean come on tho after like 21 points why punish the other team lol I aint a fan of runnin the scores up and I would hope after some of the beatings Spurrier took in the NFL that he would realize there is no need in that.
LOL well hes shown in the past hes not afraid to do that lol I mean come on tho after like 21 points why punish the other team lol I aint a fan of runnin the scores up and I would hope after some of the beatings Spurrier took in the NFL that he would realize there is no need in that.
He may do it because teams this past year decided that they wanted to run the score up on us. So...paybacks are hell. (Tennessee & Florida)
Hardie
12-17-2004, 06:35 AM
Probably so , I dunno I think after 21 points or so its pretty much a done deal.
Probably so , I dunno I think after 21 points or so its pretty much a done deal.
Well take Zook for example, he was winning by 27 points with 2 mins left in the game and he throws another TD. That isn't called for and that's why I think it's time for a little payback!
Hardie
12-17-2004, 06:49 AM
I agree the Zooker was wrong for doing that. I know revenge is sweet so have at it lol.
rabidcock
12-17-2004, 06:50 AM
I don't think any coach, including Steve Spurrier can win at SC, in football anyways, I think we should switch or focus to Basketball and baseball, two sports which we can succeed at.....
Jim Carlen won at SC..................Joe Morrison won at SC..................
Don't be so pessimistic, RW. The only intangible needed in the equation is CONSISTENCY. What stopped these two men were scandal and death. [The chicken curse?]
The only thing needed now is the continuation of the influx of talent. TALENTED COACHES AND TALENTED PLAYERS=SUCCESS!! All sucessful coaches know this (just look at what happened to Joe Pa). With our fans, facilities (AND an energetic coaching genius), we can not possibly be held down forever; any gambling man will tell you; the cards are already in place.
[Now, watch Steve be run down by a truck.]-----By the way, Lou stopped himself. With a bit more inventive offense, our previous two 5-2 starts would not have ended so disastrously. Why, we came within a hair of winning 8 games this year.
But all that's behind us. RW.........call it intuition, or whatever..........but I believe you and I (and a cast of others) are soon going to be dancing in the stands in a state of delirium. I feel it in my bones.------Imagine......a Gamecock........wandering around with dreamy orbs.............mumbling incoherently..........in a state of dreamlike ecstacy, Clemson fans, coming in a state of DREAD to Williams-Brice. And you know vengeful Steve is gonna wanna erase that 45 point disaster from the record books (you know whereof I speak).
I tell ya, RW, I can't wait to see the euphoric look in your eyes.
See you at the Sugar Bowl!
I agree the Zooker was wrong for doing that. I know revenge is sweet so have at it lol.
Take the Bama/USC game for instance, we were up 20-3 with 2 mins left in the 4th on Bama's 20 yard line. Instead of going for the TD, Holtz told em to sit on the ball.
See! That's classy there. That whole game we were raping yall and it could have been worse, but Holtz didn't want to rub it in. You gotta respect that!
rabidcock
12-17-2004, 07:00 AM
Take the Bama/USC game for instance, we were up 20-3 with 2 mins left in the 4th on Bama's 20 yard line. Instead of going for the TD, Holtz told em to sit on the ball.
See! That's classy there. That whole game we were raping yall and it could have been worse, but Holtz didn't want to rub it in. You gotta respect that!
Del, you just never know. I remember a time when we were up 21-3 0n Florida........and LOST something like 52-21. Steve just doesn't like to take chances is all.
LOL
cocky4ever
12-17-2004, 08:52 PM
Yeah...ok! LOL
I think it's also important to look at the crazy BCS system. Very few of us agree with it but until it's changed that is the system that college football runs on. With all the statistics that go into rankings I don't see anything wrong with running up the score 283-2. The coaches try to make their team as good as possible and it helps in the rankings to run up scores and shut down the opponents offenses. Look at some of the wins Oklahoma has had the past 2 years. I think I remember a game that ended 77-0. That kind of stuff makes new,helps rankings,and makes future recruits take a good look at that school. It does, however, make the game boring to most people who aren't fans of the winning team and hurts ratings. Also look at what happened to Bama this season. Their starting qb was injured during a game that was easily won for them and they paid for it the rest of the season. To run up the score should help in rankings and help develop depth because towards the end younger players should be put in. I say run up the score as much as you want to but be smart about it.
I think it's also important to look at the crazy BCS system. Very few of us agree with it but until it's changed that is the system that college football runs on. With all the statistics that go into rankings I don't see anything wrong with running up the score 283-2. The coaches try to make their team as good as possible and it helps in the rankings to run up scores and shut down the opponents offenses. Look at some of the wins Oklahoma has had the past 2 years. I think I remember a game that ended 77-0. That kind of stuff makes new,helps rankings,and makes future recruits take a good look at that school. It does, however, make the game boring to most people who aren't fans of the winning team and hurts ratings. Also look at what happened to Bama this season. Their starting qb was injured during a game that was easily won for them and they paid for it the rest of the season. To run up the score should help in rankings and help develop depth because towards the end younger players should be put in. I say run up the score as much as you want to but be smart about it.
Well to a point I agree, but then I don't.
The BCS had a factor in it called MOV. (Margin of Victory) If you won by 21 points or higher, you got a bonus in the BCS equation. By doing that, it didn't matter if you scored 22 or 50. You got the same bonus. It also kept coaches from running up the score. They removed MOV, SOS, and QW from the BCS prior to this year.
Let me ask you this Cocky, if you were coaching, would you like to get whipped 77-0 at home?
cocky4ever
12-18-2004, 08:30 AM
Well to a point I agree, but then I don't.
The BCS had a factor in it called MOV. (Margin of Victory) If you won by 21 points or higher, you got a bonus in the BCS equation. By doing that, it didn't matter if you scored 22 or 50. You got the same bonus. It also kept coaches from running up the score. They removed MOV, SOS, and QW from the BCS prior to this year.
Let me ask you this Cocky, if you were coaching, would you like to get whipped 77-0 at home?
Would I like to get beat 77-0 at home? Hell no I wouldn't. However, I wouldnt hold that against the team or coach. If you don't want to get beat 77-0 then you have to do something about it. The coach should be able to keep opposing teams from scoring 77 unanswered points, and if he can't he shouldn't be coaching. Oklahoma is good but it's not that good. And if they are then they have the right to score 77 points.
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