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DAWG@heart
09-21-2004, 09:42 PM
I have since learned to trust Mark Richt. None of the Bulldog Nation loves his conservative play, but he does win football games. I attended the UGA vs. Marshall game and I definetly believe that a different UGA team will show up when LSU comes to Athens. Against Marshall, UGA never threw the ball deep, only screens, slants, and out routes. Conservative run plays such as draws and dives were the main aspect of the offense. The defense didn't blitz one time, other than bringing one man, usually Thomas Davis to put extra pressure on the QB. However, there are some concerns for UGA. Penalties and poor Tight End play as the big sores. As for LSU, they will key on UGA's playmakers Reggie Brown and Fred Gibson. Expect a lot of Cover 2 Man Zone, Zone Blitz, and of course LSU's bevy of blitz packages. LSU will not play a nickel or dime defense because of UGA's running game. Although the stats are not spectacular, UGA's running game has kept opposing defenses honest and UGA has been able to pass when needed. In order for UGA to win this game they will need to run the ball effectively before they open up their passing game and they will need to utilize the Tight End's to add more options for David Greene to throw to underneath LSU's Zone and for quick release to beat the blitz. If UGA cannot get the running game going, it will be a repeat of last year. Greene is not mobile enough to get away from LSU's defense. However, I believe UGA will get the job done. I am gonna go out on a limb here and say UGA's offense shows up for LSU and the defense will play outstanding as usual.

UGA - 24
LSU - 9

Neo
09-22-2004, 09:17 AM
Is the question that defined? Is UGA holding back or are they wayyyy overrated? I think it's more towards the latter. I think that UGA may be overrated. Just look at their progress this year.

Georgia Southern gave them a run for their money until the 4th qtr.
USC had Georgia beat but the ULTRA CONSERATIVE play calling by the USC coaches gave UGA the game.

Marshall gave up 13 pts. That's it! 13 pts!

I think in the next few weeks, the bulldogs are going to get slapped down back to reality and it's going to hurt.

BrodieCroyle12
09-22-2004, 10:51 AM
Holding back? What do they have?


Way overrated!

DAWG@heart
09-22-2004, 12:24 PM
Obviously we have a bunch of amatuer football fans who only look at the score and do not analyze the intangible aspects of football.

First, I will address "What do they have?"

They only have 19 of 22 starters from last year's 11-3 squad. Enough said.

As for the USC-UGA game: Do you not follow the history of UGA-USC at Williams Brice Stadium? When UGA wins.

2004 - UGA 20
USC 16

2002 - UGA 13
USC 7

1998 - UGA 17
USC 3

1994 - UGA 24
USC 21

Not since 1992 has UGA really whipped USC at Williams Brice Stadium. They won that year 28-6. UGA lost at William Brice in 2000 and 1996. And might I add they lost close in 1996 and I do not want to address the 5 interception disaster of 2000.

Now, as for Marshall and Georgia Southern:

First, how many D-1 teams schedule winning programs for their cakewalk games? Despite UGA having more talent and a better team, it is always hard to beat a team who has a winning tradition and a winning attitude. Both programs have it. And don't even mention the 294 yards rushing Georgia Southern had on UGA's defense. If you ran the triple option offense every year since you had a football program, you ought to be able to run the ball pretty good, don't you think?

As for Marshall, this team burnt Ohio St. time and time again passing the ball. How many times did UGA get burnt on defense with Marshall's passing game? 1 time, the first play of the game, which by the way attributed for 1/3 of Marshall's total offense for the game.

I will admit, UGA needs to get it together and they are not "playing" like the #3 team in the country, but they are not over rated. They have played tough teams and it only will get tougher from here. Beating Marshall 13-3 cannot be compared to beating Alabama A&M 57-10. UGA will show up now they have hit the meat of the schedule. And don't you worry, UGA will play in it's third SEC Championship game in 3 years and add another SEC Title to the Trophy Room.

williamsjw
09-24-2004, 05:48 AM
UGA looks like they're struggling to me. Talk as fancy as you want about intangibles and all that crap. They will have to answer to some real SEC teams soon and the facts as I see em are that they will fall. I guess I should go easy. I'm about to marry a "Go dawgs sick em" fan. I already have a "House Divided" tag on the front of my Expedition. I do think UGA is overrated. We will see. Roll Tide!!!

williamsjw
09-24-2004, 05:56 AM
Oh yea. I forgot to mention. Her mom and step-dad are HUGE LSU fans and Bama plays LSU on our wedding day. My grooms cake is Bama, they have to eat it hahahahaha.

oxfordrebel
09-24-2004, 07:37 AM
I agree that the Dawgs, while they're good, are really overrated.

They had the kiss of death, just like Auburn did last year. Never ever predict or even suggest that a SEC team will win the NC in the off-season. They will not deliver. But the Dawgs are still undefeated to this point. If they can start playing up to their potential and not playing down to their opponent, then I think they could go NC this year.

volimhtown
09-27-2004, 10:23 PM
All right DAWG...I love it when 21 year old snot noses like you act like you know everything. At least knowing your age explains your arrogent and ignorant over tones.
First of all, since you so elequently quote history, you should know that the last time Georgia won a meaningful football game, you were not even alive. Secondly, I realize that because you're only a few years removed from playing with your toy trucks, Georgia football probably seems like the greatest thing since sliced bread. While you are "investigating" past historical trends, maybe you should realize that since the SEC split, until the last few years, you were TN and FL's BITCH!! For you to call ANYONE "an amateur football fan" is laughable. On the flip side, are you insinuating that you are a "professional football fan"? What the hell does that mean anyway?
Listen junior, your postings, while written very intelligibly, lack any REAL depth and plenty of bias! Use these sites to talk trash and have fun...that's there intent! While you may think you might be enlightening someone, you're really just making an ass of yourself!! We'll see what kind of a "professional fan" you are after Georgia loses this weekend!!

volimhtown
09-27-2004, 10:34 PM
First, how many D-1 teams schedule winning programs for their cakewalk games? Despite UGA having more talent and a better team, it is always hard to beat a team who has a winning tradition and a winning attitude. Both programs have it. And don't even mention the 294 yards rushing Georgia Southern had on UGA's defense.One more thing...are you serious?? You are seriously going to give your school props for scheduling those traditional powerhouses Marshall and Ga Southern? What about your annual tilt with that traditional power Ga Tech?? You forgot to mention that one. Come on, someone who thinks that he is as intelligible as you, can not seriously stand by those comments! And before you make a REAL fool of yourself and ask me who Tennesse has played non-conference wise, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!

DAWG@heart
09-27-2004, 11:27 PM
Right back at you lushface. I love cocky ass Tennessee fans who don't know jack crap about anything other than how to make home brew. You remind me of Casey "Iceman" Clausen. Some queer who talks a lot of trash and then gets smacked in the mouth. I remember in 2002 when he said that if he would have played in the Tenn./UGA game then he would have beat UGA. He backed that up last year in Knoxville at the woodshed beating UGA gave Tenn. Hope you saw that game cuz I did and the look on all those Vol fans faces were priceless. I'll get to see that look again this weekend when Auburn softens you up before you really get killed. Oh yeah, by the way, Clausen was so good, he NEVER beat UGA. So what makes you think your 2 newbies can get it done.

As for your comment on UGA not winning any games that mean anything. What constitutes a meaningful game in your dictionary "POPS"? If it's championships, then you wouldn't know about that since you haven't won one in 6 years. Get over the 90's Pops, it's a new century and a new generation of football. Since 2000, Georgia is best in the SEC in winning percentage. But that's got nothing to do with meaningful games I'm sure. And how sweet it will be when David Greene passes your beloved Peyton Manning for the all-time record for collegiate wins.

Now, let's talk about Tennessee's #1 non-conference schedule. UNLV, national championship contenders every year. Louisiana Tech, how many winning seasons have they had? I know both these teams have had more wins than Marshall and Georgia Southern in the past. I hope you catch my sarcasm. Oh, but wait, let's all bow done to Tennessee cuz they have to Notre Dame, who got their asses handed to them by BYU. As for Georgia/Georgia Tech, you really shouldn't have done this to yourself. THEY ARE RIVALS FOR GOD'S SAKE. They have played each other since football existed. But, I see your point, let's go ahead and scrap traditional cuz they are a sissy school. That is the stupidest press for argument I have ever heard. You are a complete idiot. I don't considered myself a professional fan, there is no such thing, but I am a bonafide fan. For a snotty nosed 21 one year old, I know a hell of a lot more about football than you. Bottom line is, you are just another scoreboard fan. So just shut it, you can't run with me.

Chris
09-27-2004, 11:58 PM
I love it... Do not mind the mudslinging, but please shake hands when its all done... Right? hehe... Friendly, yet argumentitive!

Neo
09-28-2004, 12:34 AM
Right back at you lushface. I love cocky ass Tennessee fans who don't know jack crap about anything other than how to make home brew. You remind me of Casey "Iceman" Clausen. Some queer who talks a lot of trash and then gets smacked in the mouth. I remember in 2002 when he said that if he would have played in the Tenn./UGA game then he would have beat UGA. He backed that up last year in Knoxville at the woodshed beating UGA gave Tenn. Hope you saw that game cuz I did and the look on all those Vol fans faces were priceless. I'll get to see that look again this weekend when Auburn softens you up before you really get killed. Oh yeah, by the way, Clausen was so good, he NEVER beat UGA. So what makes you think your 2 newbies can get it done.

As for your comment on UGA not winning any games that mean anything. What constitutes a meaningful game in your dictionary "POPS"? If it's championships, then you wouldn't know about that since you haven't won one in 6 years. Get over the 90's Pops, it's a new century and a new generation of football. Since 2000, Georgia is best in the SEC in winning percentage. But that's got nothing to do with meaningful games I'm sure. And how sweet it will be when David Greene passes your beloved Peyton Manning for the all-time record for collegiate wins.

Now, let's talk about Tennessee's #1 non-conference schedule. UNLV, national championship contenders every year. Louisiana Tech, how many winning seasons have they had? I know both these teams have had more wins than Marshall and Georgia Southern in the past. I hope you catch my sarcasm. Oh, but wait, let's all bow done to Tennessee cuz they have to Notre Dame, who got their asses handed to them by BYU. As for Georgia/Georgia Tech, you really shouldn't have done this to yourself. THEY ARE RIVALS FOR GOD'S SAKE. They have played each other since football existed. But, I see your point, let's go ahead and scrap traditional cuz they are a sissy school. That is the stupidest press for argument I have ever heard. You are a complete idiot. I don't considered myself a professional fan, there is no such thing, but I am a bonafide fan. For a snotty nosed 21 one year old, I know a hell of a lot more about football than you. Bottom line is, you are just another scoreboard fan. So just shut it, you can't run with me.

Dawg,
Anytime you wanna roll, feel free. I'm open over here! First of all, I know you aren't dissing Tennessee for their OOC games. That's the "pot calling the kettle black" For once, let's look and compare the OOC schedules for both for the last 4 years shall we:

Georgia/Tennessee: 04,03,02,01

Ga Southern, Marshall, Ga Tech, Middle Tenn. St., Clemson, UAB, Ga Tech, Clemson, Northwestern St., New Mexico St., Ga Tech, Arkansas St., Ga Tech, Houston.

UNLV, Louisiana Tech, Notre Dame, Fresno St., Marshall, Duke, Miami, FL, Wyoming, Middle Tenn. St., Rutgers, Miami, FL, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Memphis.

Now honestly who can you say plays "cupcakes" for their OOC games? There is only one (1) team that scheduled a Div. II team and that wasn't Tennessee. I fear that I must side with VOL here. You preach really good but statistics do NOT side with you Dawg. You state that Tennessee hasn't won a National Championship in 6 years correct? Well, when was the last time Georgia won one? That year would be 1980 to be exact. From 1982 to 2002, UGA got their butts handed to them in a bag on a regular basis by Tennessee and Florida for the conference championships. So maybe you should not throw rocks if you live in a GLASS house.

When you said that and I quote: "For a snotty nosed 21 one year old, I know a hell of a lot more about football than you." That's pretty arrogant considering that you do not know VOL or anything about him and we can tell different by the way you speak of UGA without having all of the facts. Look at it this way, Tennessee leads the "All-time" series 17-14-2.

In closing, I will say this. Do not come and presume that we are all mentally inferior and you can play a smoke-screen game with us. BS'ing on a message board for crying out loud shows a lack of intelligence. A lot of us were watching football while you were still an itch in your dad's crotch.

Here's food for thought, Tennessee WHIPPED yall for 10 years straight. From 1989 to 1999 by an average of 14.6 points per game.

usafvolfan
09-28-2004, 01:35 AM
Right back at you lushface. I love cocky ass Tennessee fans who don't know jack crap about anything other than how to make home brew.

so thats what your all about? you disagree with someone's analysis of a team so you resort to insulting all UT fans? Thats pretty pathetic. We can sit here all day and call each other names like 5 year olds or talk about football like men. Theres nothing wrong with saying "i think your team is over rated" or "i think UT sucks." thats fine. but just because everyone here isnt a dawg fan, and some may believe that your fav. team is over rated in no way consitutes stereotyping a whole slew of fans. anybody with fingers and a 4th grade education can hide behind a keyboard and slander people. Nothing is proved or concluded from that.

Anyways....
Good on you for pulling up some intresting stats,,,,,I for one am always up for some college football trivia...thats what this is all about.
I will be watching your dawgs closely on Sat. You guys will be our toughest team this year, because i do believe the dawgs are better than auburn. but then, i could be wrong. i do feel that we will not get our brains kicked in like last year by georgia. theres no other way to say it except that we got DESTROYED last year in knoxville. But rest assured, this is a different UT team. We have a lot of offensive weapons we didnt have last year and not near as many injuries, at least for now. I agree that georgia so far has not lived up to the hype, so thats why i cant wait to see what happens agaisnt LSU. If, and i say IF, LSU beats up on you guys, then the over rated theory holds water. If not, then georgia is a NC contender. Good luck agaisnt the tigers, and dude, for real, hash the name calling. its just dumb.

Neo
09-28-2004, 01:39 AM
AMEN USA!

Well said and I just couldn't resist throwing some stats on the kid to hush him up.

usafvolfan
09-28-2004, 01:54 AM
by the way, DeLorean, whats up in SC with holtz? I for one figured that in two to three years after getting that program he would have you guys serious SEC contenders, but that hasnt seemed to happen. I dont think SC sucks or anything, but after living in SC for 5 years, ( i was stationed at Shaw AFB) I know you guys are hungry for a SEC championship. you guys have definently gotten better over the last couple of years, but all SEC fans are impatient,( unless you are vandy or kentucky, then you are just used to getting drummed every year) even if it is lou holtz. I guess id better not underestimate the cocks though, we have to go to columbia this year and you guys always play us tough. (by the way, ive been to bryce a few times and thats a cool ass stadium. it may not be a huge place, but its definently cool. i like traveling down the interstate and seeing it off in the distance...looks sweet.)

volimhtown
09-28-2004, 10:49 AM
Thank you Dawg for proving to everyone that my assessment of you was correct.
Let's get a few things clear, though! First of all, what makes me cocky? I don't recall spewing my biasses out to you. I guess if someone differs with your opinion, that make them cocky? That's your issue.
Secondly, for the record, I have the utmost respect and admiration for the job that Richt has done there. It's honestly nice to see you guys back on the map after a 20 year absence. As far as you guys beating us next week, I happen to agree with you. I think Greene should have a field day with our defense. Tennessee's year will be next year! That being said, it will be a competitive game!
Thirdly, do you really think I'm going to be upset about you trashing Clausen and Peyton. You're showing your youth there. As far as Clausen being queer, I guess you know something that I don't. Things that make you go HMMMM! As far as Greene beating Peyton's winning pct......Great! That'll be a great accomplishment IF he gets it!
Just remember, they are still tied 0-0 on the scoreboard that counts!!
And finally, as far as Georgia's record since 2000....what's your point? I realize that that's probably as far back as you can remember, so I understand!!
Look son, as far as you knowing more about football than me, I'll leave that opinion to the others that read this, but by the sounds of it....you have some proving to do!!

Neo
09-28-2004, 11:36 AM
by the way, DeLorean, whats up in SC with holtz? I for one figured that in two to three years after getting that program he would have you guys serious SEC contenders, but that hasnt seemed to happen. I dont think SC sucks or anything, but after living in SC for 5 years, ( i was stationed at Shaw AFB) I know you guys are hungry for a SEC championship. you guys have definently gotten better over the last couple of years, but all SEC fans are impatient,( unless you are vandy or kentucky, then you are just used to getting drummed every year) even if it is lou holtz. I guess id better not underestimate the cocks though, we have to go to columbia this year and you guys always play us tough. (by the way, ive been to bryce a few times and thats a cool ass stadium. it may not be a huge place, but its definently cool. i like traveling down the interstate and seeing it off in the distance...looks sweet.)

It's like I have said time and time before USA. You cannot polish a turd in 5 years. USC was in shambles when Mr. Holtz first came to our doorstep. So as a way to stop the bleeding, he really hit the recruiting trail for JC transfers. That's why Mr. Holtz had so much success in his 2nd & 3rd year (8-4-0 & 9-3-0). Since his 4th year, he has been recruiting non-stop and building a recruiting base slowly but surely.

An example of how far along this program has come, look at last year. Florida beat us by 2 and we lost to Tennessee by 3. I am a firm believer that you DO NOT make a coaching change until you see a steep decline in the program. That's how I truly feel. I think USC is in the same boat that Virginia Tech was in a few years ago. USC and Virginia Tech both have small recruiting areas, lack of tradition, extremely tough competition, and not to mention, what's in Blacksburg, VA?

One point that I feel needs to be addressed is the fact that coaching stability has a lot to do with a successful program. Even when Mr. Frank Beamer at VT was losing on a regular basis, the AD kept saying to the fans that "This is our man, give him time." and now look at what VT is. A great Top-15 team.

The coaches sell the university to the prospect, not vice versa. Why should a recruit come to USC if they know that the coach they want to play for will be gone in five (5) years. I believe that's why Nebraska has always had the success that they had. Coaching continuity is the key. (Osborne was Devaney's asst. and Frank Solich was Osborne's asst.) That's over 30 years of experience passed from one coach to the other.
I personally have always wanted to coach some kind of football. I truly love the game for what it is and I believe there is more to coaching than just wins and losses.

Neo
09-28-2004, 12:20 PM
Thank you Dawg for proving to everyone that my assessment of you was correct.
Let's get a few things clear, though! First of all, what makes me cocky? I don't recall spewing my biasses out to you. I guess if someone differs with your opinion, that make them cocky? That's your issue.
Secondly, for the record, I have the utmost respect and admiration for the job that Richt has done there. It's honestly nice to see you guys back on the map after a 20 year absence.

I swear. Where do these people come from? Just because we happen not to agree with him, we are deemed lower class or inferior? I don't think so. He is exactly what everyone says he is....A 21 yr. old spoiled brat.

volimhtown
09-28-2004, 12:54 PM
Well, DeLorean, you have to give him credit for at least being devoted to his school. It's people like that which make these talks more entertaining. You know the old saying...if you want to feel better about yourself, go to the state fair! I liken it to that! Anyways, one thing he'll learn one day is humility. Otherwise his head is likely to explode being in the SEC. One thing is certain in this league...what goes around comes around. The sooner he learns that, the better off he'll be. It is irritating though when a new dog (no pun intended) enjoys a little success, they act like they've been there before and are all of a sudden smarter than everybody else. But, EVERY school has those type of people. Tennessee included. I guess when you get older and wiser, you learn to be more respectful of others and not to look at the world through rose colored glasses! The reality of it is that it is virtually imposible for anyone to go through the SEC unscaved these days and you better prepare yourself for that. Unfortunately DAWG fails to understand that, because from what I've seen so far, Georgia is far from being that team that could do it! I could be wrong...that's why we play the games, right??

P.S. I have no idea how to make home brew (whatever that is)

Neo
09-28-2004, 12:58 PM
I'm a firm believer that in the SEC, anytime, anyday someone could beat anybody!!

Chris
09-28-2004, 01:08 PM
Don't you just love the SEC and the bad blood it creates. We can live in argumenitive harmony here though!!!

Neo
09-28-2004, 01:15 PM
Aint that the truth Chris. :)

DAWG@heart
09-28-2004, 01:22 PM
Enough of the bickering. You hoes can think what you want, say what you want, but you all better be ready to eat crow when the time comes.

Now please excuse me, I have some major studying to get done so that I can be prepared to make my predictions for the Games of Interest this week.

By the way, I've only done it one week, but read my Games of Interest Analysis and it's scary how correct I was. A perfect 3-0 record and the streak will continue. If any of you has a game that I do not post, feel free to mention it and I will throw it in there.

Neo
09-28-2004, 01:26 PM
Well..put your money where your mouth is at the SEC pick-em on this website. Then we will see by season's end who the champ is.

volimhtown
09-28-2004, 01:35 PM
[QUOTE]Enough of the bickering. You hoes can think what you want, say what you want, but you all better be ready to eat crow when the time comes.

Now please excuse me, I have some major studying to get done so that I can be prepared to make my predictions for the Games of Interest this week.

By the way, I've only done it one week, but read my Games of Interest Analysis and it's scary how correct I was. A perfect 3-0 record and the streak will continue. If any of you has a game that I do not post, feel free to mention it and I will throw it in there.
What's REALLY scary is how full of yourself you are. I'm sure we are all EAGERLY awaiting your self proclaimed "expert analysis". Thank God you are here....I can go to my bookie with confidence, now!!!

Neo
09-28-2004, 02:49 PM
LOL VOLIM!

You hit the nail on the head.

rolltide5590
09-30-2004, 06:54 PM
the dowgs...ha what a joke people they suck...face it.(12 and counting)roll tide

Neo
09-30-2004, 07:57 PM
Roll,

I wouldn't be knocking on UGA. Alabama really isn't a prize this year either. Probation bites ya in the butt at the wrong times.

williamsjw
10-04-2004, 02:03 AM
It took Dawg a long time to respond to those previous posts. And the only thing he could come up with, is nothing. It's funny to me how folks talk so much smack, then, when confronted with actual stats and facts, clam up like the idiot they are. Live in the now. I do. Bama is sucking! Shula is coaching like sh!t, and AU will beat UGA on my wedding day. Which means I ain't gettin none that night. How bad does that suck?

DAWG@heart
10-04-2004, 09:12 AM
All I have to say is

Auburn - 10
LSU - 9

UGA - 45
LSU - 16

Do the math! You'll get plenty of sex, I guarantee it!

As for calling me an idiot..... I am 10-2 in my college big game picks and I tied for the pickem win this week (Damn you Arkansas). Your bucket is full of holes bud and it don't hold water!